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I just hate the whining and women-bashing, and don't see the need for a "community" like this among men. I go my own way, but that's just who I am. Men (and women) should pursue the life they want regardless of anyone else's thoughts. Kinda a "lead, follow, or get out of the way" mentality.The message should be just that: set goals, figure out the logistics, work toward them, and don't allow any discouragement or obstacles into your life. Not this "women are evil opportunistic soulsuckers who just want to get pregnant by some loser and make you raise the kid" bullshit.I'm an egalitarian misanthropist. All people are equally shitty until proven otherwise. Look after yourself and your family, chase your goals, and shake the losers off your legs.
It's an cheap way out in my opinion. It's guys who think the world should bend to them instead of making changes in themselves. They throw in little speeches of "be confident in yourself and fuck other people" and I don't need some group of dudes who are borderline misogynistic to do that lol I already believe those things coupled with the fact I do want to one day find a girl, lead a happy life and have some kids more than likely. If you don't want to have kids that's fine, but it's the condescending "Oh we're beating the system" attitude that's bullshit. Because no, you're not beating anything, you're adding to it.
These comments are excellent so far. Anyway, from a pseudo-outsider looking in, I’d say that a certain portion of MGTOW are assholes towards other guys and women. Not all, but literally all my interactions with MGTOW were awful. Only a minority still knows that men and women are equal and don't take out their frustration on them.The problem with some of these people is that rather than discussing actual men's problems or solving men's issues, they just talk about feminists all the time. Which is not a problem in itself, but it makes you wonder what they're trying to accomplish. Also, they get along with MRAs pretty well, and those guys say the worst things imaginable.
Because they're beta males who can't get laid, then instead of looking in the mirror and finding out why they can't get laid so they can improve themselves. They make up comforting "facts" about how and why all women are gold digging whores.They're essentially the male version of feminists. Facts and self responsibility come second to feelings
I agree with this.
The vast majority of MGTOW have never posted anything. Judging MGTOW by the few voices online gives a faulse impression. I'm MGTOW and I disagree with most of what the guys online say. I think it's because it's the guys who get angry that pist, while the MAIN focus if MGTOW should be about self improvement and actualization.
look hun im a guy who can get laid and its not just me but others who can also get women to fuckare joining MGTOWyes there are men in there that have a hard timebut if it's attracting good looking men and ugly men then there is something to itcause it's not just about sex, it's about what is really going onand since men are smarter then women we can see it more clearly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS6J1CGanxo
Hi, @frankross. Still going on anonymous?
Because, generally, MGTOW is just a cover for misogynist attitudes and behavior because immature men get upset over being rejected. Not too far off from incels if you ask me.
I would argue that most men find MGTOW ridiculous. And they're right.
Same reason most women do not support feminism.I mean let's get real; both feminism and MGTOW are hate movements, despite what each claims.collectivelyconscious.net/.../...-say-youll-do.jpg
Probably blue pillers who got called out for white knighting or simping. As a man I find it hard to imagine how far up a woman's ass you'd have to be to not recognize that MGTOW has at least some valid points and good advice for men in today's social climate.
This is how charlatans have operated since the dark ages. Mix bullshit with a helping of known truth, make vague empty promises, add in an us-vs-them mentality, and belittle anyone who attempts to expose the truth in any way you can (usually calling them stupid, jealous, weak, or claiming they have something to gain by breaking up your party)
@JayParris You just described feminism to a T
Very true, and many more. That's why I'm against political parties. Polarizing everything into us-vs-them is a sure way to nullify all communication and free thought, and the only reason to want that is if you know you're wrong but you have something to gain.
@JayParris Also, the truths posited by MGTOW are not "known". They've been stifled, attacked, denied, ridiculed for decades. That's why it resonates so strongly with young men who've only been told one half of the story their entire lives, then get shit on for finding themselves lost and confused as they enter adulthood.
I can understand that, but there's still no need for attacking anyone who disagrees or bashing women. Look at your first sentence. How can you expect to help people by speaking the truth when your first words are an attack? You've just shut down open communication with one sentence.You can speak the truth and lead people much easier when you show maturity and composure instead of beating them over the head with insults. Look at how people feel about the MGTOW movement. Do you think that might have something to do with sounding like bitter, rejected haters? Have some awareness of how people see your statements.
@JayParris These men are beyond caring if they offend women or their blue pilled lap dogs. They're not trying to find common ground with these people. They're done with that. There is real power in some of their messages. Someone who preoccupied with niceties is probably not at a place in their development where they can really comprehend it anyway. Could they be nicer? Yes. You can always be nicer. Should they be? For their purposes its irrelevant.
Then their claim that they're just trying to help men by exposing the truth is 100% bullshit. They're just bitching, and the view that they're just bitter, rejected losers is correct.
@JayParris Not at all. If anything I think that makes them more trustworthy. They're not afraid to speak their heart. Even if it offends people. They don't compromise or water themselves down because they believe they've tapped into a greater truth.
They finally tapped into the "greater truth" that I understood as an adolescent. Good for them. But they still have a long way to go, and bitching and whining gets them nowhere. Name one situation where whining about the way things are brings about a desirable change.
Haters are going to hate; it’s just human nature to hate those that they do not understand.
I don't hate it. I understand why they do it. But I think that ultimately it's somewhat counterproductive and a thinly veiled corporate scheme.
Because it implies breaking up. Some guys just don't want to break up.
A bunch of whiny men who couldn't get laid, so they decided that their selibacy was their own choice instead of their lack of self responsibility.
@torwulf Ohhh thanks, I know the sort. Bit like ultra-feminists who become man-haters because men have turned them down all their lives
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