Why are men prejudice to transwomen but are fine with gay guys?

I often hear men on here refer to transwomen as "it" and state that they have a mental disorder. At the same time these men do not refer to gay men this way or consider homsexuality as a mental disorder despite the fact that many years ago DSM-4 had listed homosexuality as a mental disorder. So can someone shed light on why men seem more prejudice and hateful to transwomen but are fine with gay men?



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  • "1. You don't have to be afraid of making physical contact."
    We don't make physical contact with other males unless necessary or when greeting each other. You're a guy so the same applies to you.

    "2. You don't have to ignore us as girlfriends."
    I ignore other guys as girlfriends because they don't meet the 'girl' part in the 'girlfriend.' You're a guy so the same applies to you.

    I mean, I suppose congrats on transitioning so well that you look just like a girl and I wouldn't have guessed otherwise if I hadn't been told, but you're still a guy.

    "Sometimes guys ignore me and it makes me feel different."
    Why are men prejudice to transwomen but are fine with gay guys?

    "Its okay to ask questions so long as they come from a place of love."
    Un, not everyone who is curious is also kindhearted. For some it's just to sate their lack of knowledge but nothing more.

    "It shows dedication if you can educate yourself on it."
    Ironic, coming from someone living in denial.

    "4. Who cares what your friends think?"
    Literally everyone with a social circle?

    "Trans girls are not your experiment"
    So wait... you're experimenting with your sexuality, presumably with other people, but people can't experiment with you? What if a guy just wants to find out if he's willing to date a dude with tits or not?

    "We don't want to be defined by the trans label"
    Why are men prejudice to transwomen but are fine with gay guys?

    That is literally what NPCs do all the time.
    ---
    But okay, joking aside, the dude is still young and naive and believes that his 'transition' was the right thing to do and if that makes him happy then good for him. But to expect others to go along with the delusion is nuts.

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    • I'm following on the strength of this reply alone.
      I couldn't have said it better

  • Just as they are free to live their lives as they see fit, so am I - and I'm only interested in genetic females with their original female parts.

    The fact that they have altered their appearance to conform to their feelings does not obligate me to be attracted to them.

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  • Probably there are just some who don't see transwomen as real women. Gay guys still identify as a guy but are just homosexual.

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  • Gay men say that they are men they just are sexually attracted to men. Gay men with plastic surgery to look like women think they are women.

    Delusion: an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder.

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    • Exactly the goverment needs to step in put these people in mental hospitals.

  • False advertising.

    Gay men are men and advertise themselves accordingly. Cross-dressers consciously deceive and earn the treatment of frauds, identity-thieves, and false-advertisers.

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  • It isn't prejudice.

    TGs lie. They pretend to be women and expect everyone else to become part of their fantasy.

    When one believes in a fantasy, then one is mentally ill.

    It is not possible to change one's chromosomes to become a different sex, no matter how much one mutilates one's body.

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  • A gay man is simply a man who likes men.
    A Transwoman is a man who THINKS he's a woman...

    One of these two things makes sense, the other doesn't.

    Straight and Gay are preferences. Trans is just craziness, pretending to be "feeling", as in, "I feel like a woman"... check your nuts, dude.

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  • A guy thinking they are a girl really is no different than a girl thinking she's a dragon. The only real difference is we have the ability to make a guy look like a girl.

    People who claim to be something they physically aren't have always been labeled mental.

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  • Well one, not MEN, some men and some women. Also the biggest consumers of transsexual porn are straight men so again, clearly some do in fact have a preference for them.

    As for why some men may be "prejudice" against them, it could be from a misunderstanding of what causes it. For instance on rare occasions schitzophrenia can cause gender dysphoria, however it goes away after proper treatment thus some people think it may be a mental disorder.

    Others have probably noted the sudden boom in "nonbinary" people who try to identify as transgender even though they do not have transgenderism (as transgenderism requires brain structure differences that are similar to the opposite genders brain structures), and as such consider it a ploy or attention seeking behavior (even trans people have noted this, they refer to them as trans-trenders).

    Others still may be against it because they believe that gender matters (and it does, we are biologically different and each gender is better suited to certain tasks then the other, this is well documented and well studied) and believe that transgenderism flies in the face of this (ironically, it actually verifies it as transgenderism itself can only exist because gender is biological).

    It could also be that they don't understand the complexity of human biology (understandable, the less you know the more confident you are about your grasp of the subject (ironically) and how things operate. Because we have genetics that say male and male hormones they assume male not realizing that brain development while normally following the same path is not bound to it the same way as the rest of the body (they still don't know why to my understanding)).

    So they don't understand how brain structures could be different when everything else is what it should be so they misdiagnose it as a mental disorder instead of a neurological disorder (basically the difference between software and hardware).

    Then you have those who are "prejudice"(I use parenthesis as currently people use the term to denote a false notion that's generally coming from a negative place (like racism) when in fact most of these are not that), is because they are biologically male, many have male genitalia and yet they are actively trying to look like women and some are not forthcoming about who they really are i. e. transgender and they are afraid of getting into a relationship with some one only to find that they are really a biological male, meanwhile for gays their is no issue of misunderstanding, you know exactly who they are, you know what they are and their is no ambiguity.

    You also have the "uncanny valley" affect, which is where the more something is familiar the better we respond to it until a certain point where its too familiar, that is its incredibly recognizable yet at the same time has attributes that are not normally found within that structure (this is what causes the "creepy" feeling, where your not afraid but your not comfortable either) thus creating an unknown and making the person extremely uncomfortable (and also more then likely why a "passable" transgender person would get less negative attention, because they have exited the uncanny valley). So all of these things factor into why a man (and women) would be more "prejudice" to trans-people.

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  • trans women are men trying to be women who like male or female booty.
    gay men are men trying to be men who like man booty.

    gays are not as scary because they are easier to spot than a well surgically enhanced trap.
    the word Trap itself is what makes men hate it so much. would you be fine if someone puts you up a Trap?

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  • Because when a gay guy hits on me and I say "sorry, I'm not gay" they go like "no problem bro".
    They don't go like, "what does that matter? I'm a girl! You have to accept the way I am while I refuse to accept the way you are, WHAA!".

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  • Because they aren't the same thing, at all. One is someone that butchers their own body and demands to be considered something they will never be and the other is just homosexual. You're comparing Pineapples to Cucumbers.

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  • Personally I have not seen this and myself am fine with whatever any one feels they are. It makes no difference to me or my life... As for the question, is it that gay men has been more in the media for longer and some times in debates people select what they view as the low hanging fruit leaving the bigger tree of homosexuality. It's in the eyes of the person an easier battle to win

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  • There is no transwomen. Only modified men. Gay people are gay, but they're still men/women and don't claim being something else.
    Will trans are something else than they claim to be, and don't want you to deny what they claim.
    Sorry but I'd never date a trans. That's dating a guy, nothing else.

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  • Well, I for one, don't believe in transsexuals. They're just men who think they're women and vice versa. Also, the woman in the video is kinda cute. Pity she's a left-whinger, really...

    Simples...

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    • Well she is trans.

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    • There are plenty of transgender women in this world that you would never know were guys.

    • I believe the term is penis fly trap

  • Gay people are born gay they are who they are but these sickos choose to be assholes and then demand rights because they mutilated themselves and they want to be able to go into a ladies room where kids can be to hell with all of them they all belong in a mental hospital

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  • I personally don't care if some is gay or transgender, although if it is one of those people with pronouns other than him and her I'm not going to get along with them. I should also add that I most likely wouldn't date a trans person. Guys might be more against trans women because they could be scared of being tricked into having sex with them.

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  • i think some people are prejudice towards gay men. in fact i know some men are

    but i think generally speaking for many people there is a learning and acceptance curve (especially for tolerant people). it homosexuality is something that has been growing in awareness and acceptance fro decades now where as we are just now starting to see the rise of trans acceptance and thus people now have to start being accustom to it as a part of potentially daily life.

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  • Mainly it is due to the guy learning about the transwoman having something particularly in common with him that he knows a woman does not typically have: penis. With a gay guy you can tell him you're straight and be done with it but with a transwoman, it could be a while before you figure it out and it just takes you by surprise.

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  • I’m not fine with either. Both are degenerates.

    At least gay guys had enough sense not to in invert their penis and claim to be a girl when they’re just a di*kless dude.

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  • Not all guys. The bigots who were anti gay and have been slowly shamed towards gay tolerance, just moved their bigotry to the trans movement.

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    • they aren't even real they are guys who mutilated themselves and the liberals encourage that no wonder so many of them kill themselves they need mental help

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    • @Jackpot1977
      Wrong on so many levels...

    • No you are the one who is wrong but keep defending everything that is morally wrong there is no hope for you

  • Ingroup preference. Gay men are not hiding their prowess which is kind of masculine in the sense of willing to stand up and be present. So the straight male see the gay male as a weak male which is a subordinate. The trans male presenting as female or undefined doesn't fit into the hierarchy of utility.

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  • To put it bluntly gays aren't pretending to be something they're not. The very term "trans women" is faulty. They're not women and never will be.

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  • Let me start of with saying, i'm completely fine with trans men and women, i have a good friend who is trans.
    Secondly i'm fine with gay men, i'm bisexual, how could i not be.
    To answer your question though.
    The mental disorder part is actually partially correct.
    Trans people have Gender Dysphoria, which means they are uncomfortable with their biological gender to a point where it feels unnatural and inhibits their daily lives greatly.
    Also your personal gender identity is based mentally. The sheer fact that your body and mind are not on the same line, can be called a disorder.
    Homosexuality is still seen by lots of people as a mental disorder.
    They think sexuality is a choice, and being gay is just a mistake your brain is making.
    Thinking any less of any of these groups of people is disgusting though, they're people who want to be happy just like everyone.
    Also it's not just men, women can be just at bad with their prejudice and hate :(

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    • All trans people do not have gender dysphoria. There are a good number that do, but all of them don't. There are plenty that are fine with the genitalia that they were born with but want to appear as what they feel they are.
      Everything else you said is right, and i agree.

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    • I love learning so I'm glad you gave me some new insight

  • When I hear "Trans Girl" I think: This Girl used to be a dude... They know what it's likes to be a guy... and I don't want to be with a guy...

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  • Do you have two X-chromosomes? Do all those MtF trannies have two X-Chromosomes? No? Then they aren't women. It's that easy.

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  • ... Sigh. You mean *prejudiced. See the "d" on the end there? "Prejudice" is the NOUN-- the IDEA. "Prejudiced" is what you're trying to say-- the STATE OF BEING. An adjective.

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  • Interesting question. Sadly, I have no intelligent answer to offer. The contradiction does not make sense.

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  • First off a trans ain't no woman and second I don't like gay guys but they are way less disgusting than trannies

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  • Gay men do not deny their biology.

    A male who has his body surgically mutilated is mentally ill.

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  • I show no prejudice at all. I treat all corruption the same.

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  • The reasons are that gay men aggressively fought for their rights long before trans people did. Also, there are far less trans people than gay men. A third reason is that gay men are not readily identifiable as such unless you interact with them and they exhibit stereotypical gay mannerisms, while most MTF trans people cannot pass. A fourth reason is that many men feel threatened by the potential of being tricked by a trans person's appearance, while there is no ambiguity in a gay man's appearance or body.

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  • What about the Americans who believe they are aliens? 😂 They dont have a mental disorders right 😂

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