My god this was a profound paragraph. I applaud you. I meant what society and media says is a man, that’s what I mean by being weak vs not weak
Media and society paints the ideal man as “the superior”. By that I mean men are more likely to portrayed with what is considered the most desirable traits.Being tall vs short. Being muscular before lean, skinny before fat. Being aggressive or overly sexual and not sensitive/passive or not sexual. Never showing defensive emotions like crying or nervousness. Men who are portrayed with these emotions are usually portrayed as the less desirable weaker male. If the more desirable male portrays the lesser emotions they always overcome them with the more desirable onesEx; being afraid of a burning building (cowardice) but later going in and coming out with a child who was trapped (bravery).I guess a strong man is one who’s able to be in control of his emotions, being able to feel them but choose which ones he reacts to. The men who can’t are seen as weak. This is the emotional aspect though which is way more flexible. There’s physical traits as well. A man can be perceived as weak just for being short or skinny without having a chance to prove himself. This is completely based on what I’ve seen in the media which heavily influences society.
And thanks. I haven’t quite mastered paraphrasing and summarizing
I agree a man should be in control of his emotions, no temper tantrums or throwing things, as most adults should be, otherwise we couldn’t function. But I think other aspects like physical appearance and sexuality, dom or sub and feeing anxiety or feeling emotion to an extent should be understood and so society can support men’s development
a man is weak if he talks too much? hmmm... that's an interesting one. Also, who gets to decide what is reasonably fearful? Most people do not know how fearful they should be...
I wouldn't want a man who's to fearful...
"A man is weak if he talks too much." Wow look at all those sentences you're writing lol
@LexyIsSexy23 I agree about protecting the vulnerable and several others on there
@Aiko_E_Lara I was answering a question asked. You have the option to not read it. Print is not the same as talking.
@Shamalien If you’re monopolizing the conversation, you’re talking too much. If it’s a quiet relaxing time, and you’re being high energy intrusively yakking away, it’s too much. Ultimately, the receivers are the ones who decide if it’s too much talking for them. It’s better to err on the side of not talking enough than to talk too much. Quiet people are often thought of as being acstrong silent type or being smarter than they are. Talking too much presents yourself as being flighty and impulsive, not in control.
And did it affect me? No. I can reply when ever I want. You have the option not to read it if it bothers you. Also you have the option to answer it briefly while I'm just pointing out straight facts.
What if I just have a lot to say? I get that a man may be perceived as weak if he talks to much, but that I attribute to a fault on the part of the listener, not the speaker. If everyone else is boring as fk and I'm the interesting one, I'm sure as hell gunna monopolize the conversation, if people wanna be more interesting then I wouldn't have to
@Stonernights nobody would
LexyIsSexy23 and that's completely fine, but why do feminists lie about that? They say they want men to be sensitive but don't really want that. A sensitive man might have a higher chance of being more fearful. Like they should just cut the bs and say what they really think instead of sparing feelings every second lol.
@esova Why is fearlessness bad?
I mean fearfulness
AJC997 Oh I'm not saying it's bad, in fact it's a normal feeling humans get. I'm just calling out feminists who say one thing but actions say another.
@esovaI can try to be more courageous but I can’t maintain fearlessness that’s asking to be more than human
AJC997 yeah to fear nothing is kinda scary itself. Most people fear something and that's pretty normal.
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You, are a very rare bird!Unique perspective.
Interesting point, understand what she's saying but I guess weakness can be an opinion because these are things I would view as weak qualities in a man.
Something I learned from people who know.In a relationship, there is a dominant and a submissive. The one who can control the relationship is the submissive. They can decide not to give in. Thereby frustrating the one that thinks they are the boss.Weak? Maybe not.
Oh, God, I hate being submissive. The feeling of not being in control is terrifying.
Fuuuck yeah femdom!
Why do they all put you down?
Im weak and they prey on weak people
Yeah some people would say you need to toughen up
You can't just toughen up, people are born to be who they are. the world would not have various classifications if people would just not be. The world needs weaklings, fags, thieves, pussies etc or else we would all be the same.
But I would like to add this one point, why don't you take your advice of toughening up to find a partner. money/career =/= relationships. a lot of shitty, jobless drug addict men get a lot of women because its how they look, how they carry themselves and how they make the woman feel.
I’m just parroting advice I’ve heard online. I don’t think you should classify gay people in the same category as weaklings or thieves. Being weak in morals and being a thief are a sign of someone who is not good
That's todays millennial boys , not men.
One question in general don't take offense Ok why would anybody should stand up for you and others bring you up they can support you but you have to come up by yourself because it's your identity
I mean if someone puts me down then my man should defend me
Another way to put it perhaps is when our impulses get the better of us and we do something we know is not helping us or the people we care about, whether those impulses are fear, jealousy, anger, hatred, resentment, or just any sort of temptation of a kind that leads us to do things that go against our values. It's very human to be weak. No one is flawless as I see it.But a phrase like "man up" doesn't mean to become an unemotional robot as I see it like some modern and misguided interpretations. It means start working towards fixing the actual problem instead of ignoring it or making it worse.
It’s similar to stoicism
I think the ideas behind Stoicism and also somewhat Buddhism do promote this kind of strength for sure. They're based a lot on cultivating thinking patterns that help mitigate negative and destructive emotions and impulses that make problems worse as well as cope with stress and things of that sort. Definitely a Stoic Sage is going to be an incredibly strong person.A certain kind of dominance is also probably going to be considered strong since leaders have to not only be strong enough to protect and take care of themselves but also others who follow their lead. That's for the type of dominance of a benevolent leader and protector though who uses that power to protect and resolve conflicts and problems, not a tyrant.
I’m going to have to wait until I’m in my 30s or 40s to find love apparently, as women find men with high paying careers attractive
Certainly helps to be stable but I wouldn't rely on that as the sole means to attract if you want a decent one. It does help to have a certain strength even to maximize the chances of being well-paid since it tends to require a sufficient level of assertiveness to negotiate good wages/salary, and leadership skills to be promoted to the highest positions.
so you think I can personally attract a woman even if I’m not in a very high status wealthy career?
That should be obvious if you just go to a shopping mall and look around at the couples. If you want to attract women then I think a certain type of strength combined with a certain type of charm can go a long way. Social skills as well. A guy who has an easy time turning strangers into friends is not typically going to have a hard time turning an acquaintance into a date.
I guess you’re right, maybe I should listen to myself instead of people on the internet?
At the end of the day, you should always listen to yourself as I see it and develop your own values and successful ways of navigating the world. It does help especially if you find yourself in a leadership position to listen to others though and weigh their thoughts into account to help guide you to making that executive decision that has the highest chance of becoming to everyone's mutual benefit. But most of all I'd just go out the door and talk to people more. Make some friends, find a pretty girl and get into a conversation and if it works out well, invite her somewhere. Keep it simple. But stay on that side that's working towards strength -- not second-guessing yourself, not too prone to let your impulses get the better of you to the point of making situations worse, not better.
Don’t women like aggressive men?
I agree with you in all of what you said accept of making a man cry infront of all people! I'll tell you a secret about we Men.You know, what ever bad thing happened in our life we collect it aside and as our chest is getting full of pain and sorrow we keep it there and when a big thing happens like death of a family member you get all the last 10 years out alone in your car or home nobody sees you that way accept your mother and God only!You know we were raised that a man doesn't cry and he always keeps emotions aside be strong for your family especially the "women and Children", but whenever you have a chance let them out so you move on and that's life mam
@aaalhajri666 Well said. Society does not respect a man who openly shows emotion, no matter what the event. Women give men crying lip service, and think it is fine for "that guy", but if the man in their life cries, they are appalled and disgusted.
Absolutely correct. Allocating kindness for weakness is weakness.
Damned millenial boys again. . Real men dont become weak , ever.
True about the millennial boys. I wish men would just act like men again. I was raised old school, what happened to these guys..
Feminism happened. We live in a society where masculinity is labeled toxic and femininity is considered gods gift to humanity.So naturally boys who are insecure will start to display more feminine behavior and less masculine behavior in an effort to meet societal requirements.If you teach boys that its a bad thing to be boyish from the first years of grade school all the way to adulthood, a lot of them are gonna try to not be boyish.
Torari, that feminism quote was on POINT
Torari... I dont posses your problems. And blaming feminism is your weakness not mine. A real man isn't affected whatsoever with fem UK nism , thsts for Simps like you.
"Acting like a girl" I guess you're saying girls are weak. I'm not saying it tho lol
@Torari don't blame feminism on individual weakness.
So @Djaay and @ThisIsMyOpinion it seems that you guys don't have a problem with the opinion posted but I'm confused then, are you saying that men should be men and men are only men if they meet the standards set out by the opinion in which case what does feminism actually mean if it means that it's about choice but only as long as women get to make the choice or only as long as men stick with the rigid traditional stereotypes that your arguing for here
@Djaay the problem isn't "real men" being affected. Its little boys being raised to internalize it.
I totally agree, here but not just that boys are being raised to accept that they are second class compared to girls, furthermore raised to learn that they don't have a place in society.The future is female remember
Torari and akihon... Ok now both of you do have a ligit question. Both good points. First and foremost... Biblically , men were designed and assigned as the spiritual leaders and head of the house hold. Women were made from a man to be his helper. Although , according to GOD , females are just as valuable and equal in every way. Men are to love her as CHRIST loved the church. Today women protest against GOD and his design and intention for both men and women with demonic fortitude thinking she can rise above to leadership where men failed her as well as her thoughts of mal-intentions of GOD . The lack of male spiritual guidance and abandonment of her and the family unit. Fathers especially should be more than ashamed of they're selfs for this discontentment and displacement. The attack is on male infants and youth. Mothers concure that this will change males into submissive , effeminate , and/or obedient towards women as they march for supremacy. Although , according to GOD and all his commanded commandments with design and intention for men and women , feminism is an abomination. My point is... Dont blame the women of our own demise today and be obedien of GODS commandments , although , women need to stop with the witchcraft and should stop blaming GOD and stop following demonic fortitudes in great Hope's of supernatural warfare from the bowels of Hell itself.
@akihon Feminism mean nothing really. No reason for men not to act the way they always have.
You think lack of empathy means you are weak?
That's not a weak man, that's a psychopath.
Finally an intelligent answer
@Ihatesociety2000 I believe she was saying if you possess lack of empathy (meaning they don't have empathy) they are weak not if they have empathy they are weak
So not being a white knight makes a man weak? Hmm I have to question your ideology a white knight is actually a weak man he falls prey to the allure of females these are called nice guys
@Cocacolaaddict this girl will hate me because I have a tendency to dropkick any woman or man who messes with me... you can say I am the opposite of white knight personality
@Cocacolaaddict Well said. White Knights are the weakest of the brood.
@Steiner001 nah i dont hate you, i basically meant a guy that doesn't take shit or stand there when women are being pushed around
Do you know how many times I have seen a drunk, mouthy woman start shit then expect their man to handle it?
@KrakenAttackin yeah and those kind of women don't deserve nice treatment, if you act like a bitch then expect to be treated like one. I ain't no flag waving feminist, just a little old fashioned
i think you should not mess with drunkards... they are stinky... and dangerous... they really are... in more than one way...
Support his parents?
A guy who doesn’t work and so relies on his mom is a bit of a turn off... don’t u think?
You said supports himself or parents so I thought you meant pays for his parents life as well as his own.Also what does a lunatic girlfriend do?
One whom beats him up and gets violent if he doesn’t do as she asks/ says
Agree with everything you just said
That's not true. Not all of us. Just like all women aren't interested in our wallet. But there are many.
@james2018dean never said all of you I just said these qualities make a guy weak
@james2018dean and you know good and well I didn’t say all men anywhere in there Now go away with your butthurt
@james2018dean all of my exes
@james2018dean not all men. This is referring to all my exes!!!
wasn't sure.But I do know that my butt doesn't hurt.
Is this paper part of your therapy, i see someone journal here
@Meropatrick it’s my homework and I was sharing cause those things make a guy weak
Why didn't you just type it out?
Emotionally unavailable what do you mean by that? Like not being there for emotional support, us not understanding emotions or even our own? Mixed messages should be a female thing, no? Now, that's a undying truth, we are bad at communications. Don't know how to express what we want to say without making a fool of out of ourselves. Remember, men do take longer to move on. So that plays a big role. Don't want to say something that will damage anything. We can be stupid with words a lot of the time. I can see the part of us being rude honestly, then again, anyone can be rude.That's a everybody thing. I hold a moral to never lie again after the age of 12. Did something and regret it. Even if the truth hurts, if you want it. I'll give it to you. Wish more people were like this. It paints a clearer picture. I'm guessing James took "Things they all have in common" as in all of men.
@Creepazoid this was my journal homework
@Soporific-san yeah I mean not available emotionally. Also being self centered And it doesn’t matter the genitalia Guys do give mixed messages at times
@Soporific-san no lying is not an everybody thing. 😂 Being rude is not an everybody thing either
@Cocacolaaddict nope. He sounded like he was very quick to make an assumption which I don’t tolerate Go away
@Cocacolaaddict you sound immature Get a grip bruh
@Soporific-san I get that but you undermined what I specifically went through That’s super insensitive
@Soporific-san Not true on the lying thing Did you ask everybody in the United States if they have lied yet? I’ll wait for your survey Stop being stupid
@Soporific-san damn people here are dumb Especially you
Now, now. Let's play nice. We can agree to disagree. It's not going to change the world or even our life.
@james2018dean it isn’t even “playing nice” It’s that everybody made a TON of assumptions about me and the way I live my life in one random comment threadI don’t Fucking put up with that
True. But you realize feminism is pressuring guys to fold here. If guys fight back they get unfairly called sexist. This happens to me once at a job I had years ago. Disgusting cheap shot.
And also every once in a bitchy female managers will be nasty to make subordinates to just “make a statement”.
High status men often like to be dominated at home. Imagine being in a position all day long when noone dares to question you.
So basically that means married men are weak because their wives can start bossing them around.And dare he refuses.
I’ve let some female bosses push around further than male bosses have. I’ve also dated women who started doing this shit. I’m ashamed to say I don’t defend myself like I should have back then. BUT in both scenarios I immediately made plans to disassociate with them and always got out ASAP. These women know they have a societal advantage in the western countries and feel no shame in abusing it. More often than not they identify as “feminists”. Even if a they are doing just as “test” it’s still complete bullshit because it reveals a major character flaw. In the long run these women are never happy. Deep down they want a violent and verbally/physically abusive man to beat the hell out of them because it validates their own twisted insecurities.
Oh be, woman sont want a pussy they already have one
@PousayAnd you too
KiaTate - so your saying that if a man wants to cry then he should and do it when he feels like it no matter who is around? if you think that then you are right , for even Jesus openly cried on the cross and other places too ! thanks
Once again, you can never listen to what woman actually say.
KiaTate & MissDawn... I agree with both of your points.
Very good sex an very good food I mint
This here is a ligit truth. I agree with this...
I expected this kind of comment from a girl
@Cocacolaaddict don’t expect anything else. They will hold us to a higher standard than they hold themselves. That’s not to say their genuine women out there. There definitely are. But I’m sick of the hypocritical ones who feel entitled to “date up”.
You stupidly put "not able to be direct/straightforward" and "complains" in this same list.How? How do you fuck up that blatantly?
@FýrdracaDócincel lmaoooo what a silly child you are. Im answering a question just like everybody else here is and this is what my opinion is on what a weak man is to me 😂😂😂
Your opinion isn't even an opinion.. it's a logical screwup.Why say that you want your man to be direct if you're just gonna bitch about him "complaining" when he does?
@FýrdracaDócincel lmao what on earth are you saying. You make zero sense. Bye felipe!
You clearly dont even understand what you're saying. Smh. Go and take a breather child
@Djaay some boys i swear 😂
Yes, praise saint Elliot Rodgers.
@Ihatesociety2000 Fuck off
Oh are we bashing suicide now? Man fuck you my dad commuted suicide and he was the one of the strongest men I ever met worked stupidly long hard hours woke up anything from 2-4 in the morning didn't come home till 10pm all to provide for his family and he wasn't physically or mentally weak either he was strong you don't know shit about weakness suicide can happen to even the strongest men even military can off themselves and you have to be strong to be military but yeah suicide makes you weak you know not like seeing limbs blown off is no big deal seeing scores of people slaughtered actual people blown to pieces your comrades your friends but yeah witnessing hell on earth is no big deal or struggling with depression and ending it makes you weak you know jack shit. But go ahead shame male suicide shame on you you honestly disgust me
So if someone has cerebral palsy that means they're weak?
@rickle Uh, well uhm... Yes.
I mean you're not wrong
Never liked Titanic 💪
Good list Lexy! Let's add "is a liberal cuck".