Socially conditioned how? Personally I almost always look down when I walk but that’s because I used to go outside barefoot as a kid so I naturally just dodge things as I walk but how are women conditioned to do that?
Men are conditioned as children to be more aggressive, and women more submissive. Because girls are punished more harshly for being “rude” where boys are praised for being assertive. Looking down is a submissive gesture. It makes you smaller. Whereas looking up makes you appear more confident and assertive. There are also less intentional things that parents and caregivers do. Some people did a study a while back where they showed people a picture of a baby. They told some of the people that the baby was a boy, and some that the baby was a girl. The people who thought the baby was a boy said that the baby looked angry. The people who thought that the baby was a girl said that the baby looked scared. It was the same picture. If people interpret the baby’s faces differently, they will treat them differently. That will encourage the baby to feel the way they think the baby feels. Babies fit whatever role their family puts them in, so if their family thinks they’re grumpy, they’ll be grumpy. If they think they’re nervous, they’ll be nervous. Women also look down more because they’re conditioned to be more cautious in general. Another study on how parents played with their babies and toddlers at playgrounds showed that parents are far more likely to indicate to their daughters that a certain activity (like climbing something) is dangerous than they are with their boys. In some cases the majority of boy parents even cheered their sons on while on certain structures, but the majority of girl parents told their daughters to be careful, kept a hand on them in case they fell, etc. Because people have the idea in their head that girls are more fragile, so they treat the children accordingly, even though especially at that age, the girls aren’t in any more danger than the boys are.
I can explain the part about babies fitting the role that people put them in better if you’d like. There’s more psychology behind it than just what i said. But basically, if this makes it any clearer, parents today are told that if their child falls on the playground, they should wait until the child starts crying before going over and comforting. Parental instinct says to pick the kid up immediately and start cooing at them. But what if the kid didn’t actually get hurt? What if they weren’t going to cry? Well their instinct says to trust their parents. So if their parent starts cooing and comforting them, they assume that something must have happened that should make them cry. So they cry. And the more this happens, the more they learn that falling should make them cry. Even if they don’t get hurt. If parents perceive little girls as more likely to be afraid, then they will treat them accordingly, and the little girl who assumes that her parents know more thinks “well then this must be something that should scare me.” If they perceive a little boy as angry, then they will try to calm him down in a very different way. So the little boy, assuming his parents know best, thinks to himself, “well then this must be something that should make me angry.”Thus the little girl and the little boy are put on very different paths from the very start of their life.
Ahhh I see that makes sense. Do you think it’s an inherent thing to want women and girls to not get hurt? Cuz I definitely have noticed when I was younger that when my guy friends would do something dangerous I wouldn’t care but if my female friends would do the same I’d be super worried or scared for them. Even in highschool there was a girl who played linebacker on my football team and I would often worry about her when she got in whereas I never had that worry when anyone else was in.
I think that some of it is biological. But I think that especially when dealing with babies, it’s important to be aware of. We shouldn’t be conditioning boys to be reckless. They can get hurt too. And we shouldn’t be conditioning girls to be nervous. It’s part of the reason why adult women are far more likely to be diagnosed with an anxiety disorder. Those neural pathways begin forming in infancy. There are also studies done about how the way parents play with their children makes girls more likely to be able to express emotions when they grow up than boys are. Because girls grow up playing with dolls. Their parents will ask them things like “how does your dolly feel? Is baby sad? Aww, let’s help dolly feel better.” So they learn to think like that. Boys don’t. So they don’t learn how to put their feelings into words, because they didn’t get that practice. Boys do get more practice with cars and educational toys though. Which is part of the reason that men are more likely to go into stem fields. And it’s not just that the kids gravitate toward those toys. Studies have been done where they dress the same baby in a “boys outfit” and in a “girls outfit” and have strangers play with the baby. People treat the same baby very differently depending on whether they think it’s a girl or a boy. There’s a really disturbing study specifically about the way that fathers interact with their children. They tend to be rather cold with their sons when their sons express sadness. Which is part of the reason that so many men today think they aren’t allowed to have feelings. Fathers especially are usually far more cuddly and nurturing with their baby girls than they are with their baby boys. So the boys learn to repress their feelings. My point is, there are bad things for both genders. Every kid needs to be able to express their feelings, AND use their brain, and know what a reasonable degree of caution is.
But yeah. Some is biological because in adulthood women are smaller and more easily injured. But the same isn’t true for infants. Sorry my last answer was so long. I know too much about this subject. So I got sidetracked and went on a really long tangent. But it’s interesting. So I don’t feel too bad about it. 😂
You’re fine It was interesting to read since obviously I’ve only been on one side and never experienced being a girl. I couldn’t even imagine a childhoood where people like care about my well being😂 the amount of times I heard boys will be boys as we’re jumping off of playgrounds and basketball hoops or fighting each other is astounding. I would come in from recess or playing outside bleeding and limping and I just had to rub some dirt on it even though I found leaves worked better. 😂
Yeah. That’s not safe. The “rub some dirt in it” narrative in particular has actually led to a lot of men ignoring serious injuries or illnesses. This allows them to get much worse than they needed to. It’s part of the reason that men are more likely to die young. They’re more reckless in general, do more dangerous things, because of what we discussed earlier. But they’re also far less likely to see a doctor, because they’re conditioned from childhood to think that they not only can, but should, just deal with it themselves.
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For the down votes I'm about to receive... You don't like this statement, don't manspread in public.
I will elaborate, I don't sit like the dude in the example pic, however, my legs also don't look like the other pic of the dude with the McDonald's bag because, as I said, big thighs
Let them legs breathe, you're not "woman spreading" or anything
I didn't know that was a thing lol
Good I've always wanted to practice the split on the subway. :)
@Lynx122 go for it😂👍🏼
That’s not a psychotic and unnecessary response.
@okeydoke I'll bet you're a woke bisexual male feminist
Okay. I don’t break the faces of those who disagree with me.
@okeydoke bye bye little girl
closer together for sure, but not to the knees, that's just not comfortable... and it's not natural either.
Sure. Just be considerate of others
RIght, where I grew up, people give their seats, usually to women and elders, and children.I wouldn't even seat, I like to stand up. So many times I forgot height and hit my head when I would get up of a sudden.
Didn't realise sitting was somehow sexist now
@Nachowedgie. He is sitting with his legs unnecessarily spread open, trip display his masculinity, and occupying two seats in the process.
The one picture doesn't represent every man and the way they sit
My comment was limited to this picture and any guy who sits in an identical position.
but maybe your personal space has invaded his personal space.
@apimpnamedslickback it's pretty simple, I want to be in the space tgat's designed for example in my bus seat. I can't sit comfortably if the guy beside me is with his legs wide open. I'm not fat and sit with my legs closed so I don't invade other people's space.
The picture is a poor example of proper mainstreaming. It's generally done with proper posture.