Yeah, I don't think it's uncommon. I don't know many people who would turn a woman down for being stronger than them, and the ones who more likely would are the ones who are super strong themselves.
we can only know our own experience and what we observe, so he's helping you by giving you another piece of the puzzle. that's one vote for "no". Of course he doesn't know how every other man on the planet feels.
Well, a lot of the guys, like me, are weak and have very little arm strength. So it's more about how strong they are compared to us, not JUST the fact that they are strong.
For the man to be built and still weaker than her, she'd either have to be overly muscular--like those female bodybuilders who are obviously abusing sterioids--or freakishly tall in addition to being strong. I'd say around as tall as Shaq.
@Subarugirl We weren't talking about overweight. Like @Vivaldi said, there is a difference. If I was talking about being overweight then I would use terms such as 'obese', 'fat', 'overweight'. Not 'bulky' which in the bodybuilding world has its own term.
@TomGarand In my experience, not often. Anytime I happen to see such a woman with a guy either in the streets or in any gym (and I've been to many), there is always some bigger and buffer dude with her. And if like I said this truly was common, then we would see this case a lot more and a lot more promoted. On the contrary, men do not like bulky or buff women. Men like in shape feminine women.
@TruthBringer I didn’t say all, I said that it happens even though it’s not the norm. I have met men who are into that. It’s really more of a fetish than anything else but there are men out there who are into it.
@TruthBringer You haven't seen any skinny or shorter men who are into it? I actually saw a video on the topic where a guy asked several men if they liked muscular girls (NOT necessarily women who are stronger than the men THEMSELVES), and the skinny guys thought the girl's muscle was too much. She wasn't a huge, manly FBB, by the way.
I genuinely thought the skinnier, weaker men who answered the question might not mind. For those men, I thought it'd make sense to have a partner who could protect them.
@Subarugirl When people say "common" they usually mean something that is seen once in a while or on the regular. They don't refer to something that exists but isn't seen often or being the norm. So it exists, but it's not common.
@TomGarand No I haven't. However, that doesn't mean I'm saying they don't exist. They do. But they aren't common. Especially not where I'm from. The vast majority of men aren't into those kind of women.
@TruthBringer maybe you just don't see it because you aren't targeted by it. I on the other hand have many times and it probably has something to do with the fact that I am strong and 6 ft tall. Plus men aren't as fetishized as women are. Some women are fetishized for being small and petite, or have large breasts, or being an "amazon".
Well, you think women fawning over men because they're tall is fetishizing? Because for a lot of women--especially short ones--it seems to be because tall men are supposedly stronger. @Subarugirl
There is a difference between finding certain physical attributes attractive and fetishizing them. Attraction is defined as the action or power of evoking interest, pleasure, or liking for someone or something. A fetish is defined as a form of sexual desire in which gratification is strongly linked to a particular object or activity or a part of the body other than the sexual organs
@Subarugirl Sweetheart, just because there are dudes going after girls who happen to be a bit more toned or happen to be taller, doesn't mean that THAT is what they truly want. Men are known for shooting their shots left and right for the sake of having sex. That's what it's about. Getting laid. To a man, it doesn't matter who he is fucking as long as he gets laid. But you would have known this if you actually done proper research about men's nature. So when it comes to the actual question being asked, no, it isn't common. Will men still smash for the sake of getting laid? More likely yes.
@TruthBringer I'm talking about my personal experience and experiences shared with me from women my height and taller, and I can assure you that it happens frequently. That fact here is that you are talking about a topic that you don't really have any experience in, like macrophilia, Vorarephilia, and a bunch of others. Fetishizing women who are stronger than her male counterpart is a subset of macrophilia.
I would speculate that the fetish is probably tied to a broader interest in dominance and submission, given that most porn and erotica in this area depicts a stronger person wielding power over someone weaker. Being submissive is a common kink among both sexes.
Being taller doesn't necessarily mean you are strong or stronger than the guy. I think the premise of the question is based on women who are a bit more bulky.
@TruthBringer When not in a nonsexual context, that is true. However, in a sexual when it comes to macrophilia fetishes and domination kinks, the two are very close related of not synonymous.
@TruthBringer Actually BDSM is pretty common, and more common than you realize... it's been becoming more and more main stream for years. Leon F. Seltzer, Ph. D. states "The fact that sexual submission sites for straight males are even more popular than domination sites indicates that flipping to the other side may offer its own satisfaction precisely because it’s such a stark variant. For instance, there’s a large miscellany of male submission sites—from ones devoted to forced feminization (“Strapped in Silk”), to CFNM (Clothed Female, Naked Male); to several flagrantly masochistic sites, such as CBT (which doesn’t stand for Cognitive Behavioral Therapy but something that ends in the word “torture”). "
BDSM is a typical female fantasy. Not a typical male fantasy, although with the feminization of men, it doesn't strike me as a surprise that the interest is increasing. As I said, the question being asked is whether guys like physically stronger girls. Which is not as common as you try to make it out to be. Your red herring is hereby dismissed. Come back when your capable to produce arguments without logical fallacies.
@TruthBringer “ BDSM is a typical female fantasy. Not a typical male fantasy” according what evidence?
Because according to the national library of medicine “ In total, 1.8% of sexually active people (2.2% of men, 1.3% of women) said they had been involved in BDSM in the previous year.”
How many of the guys that chased you (including romantically) were short? From what I've seen, it looks like short guys like tall girls more than the taller ones do.
" In total, 1.8% of sexually active people (2.2% of men, 1.3% of women) said they had been involved in BDSM in the previous year. This was more common among gay/lesbian and bisexual people. People who had engaged in BDSM were more likely to have experienced oral sex and/or anal sex, to have had more than one partner in the past year, to have had sex with someone other than their regular partner, and to have: taken part in phone sex, visited an Internet sex site, viewed an X-rated (pornographic) film or video, used a sex toy, had group sex, or taken part in manual stimulation of the anus, fisting or rimming. "
Those numbers do not prove that men like to be in the submissive role of BDSM. More often than not, BDSM within the porn industry focusses on women being on the submissive, not men who want to be submissive and getting plowed by a (buff) woman. Sorry love, but you actually have not disproven what I said. Pulling random numbers and stripping them out of context continues to prove that you don't have good debating skills.
So not only did you continue talking about this red herring, but sadly, it backfired right in your face.
"Conclusion: Our findings support the idea that BDSM is simply a sexual interest or subculture attractive to a minority, and for most participants not a pathological symptom of past abuse or difficulty with "normal" sex."
Minority. Your own source literally validated my point. Thanks for sharing.
3 out of the 4 people I have been with were shorter than I was. Though all of them were secure in their masculinity and none of them fetishized my height.
@TomGarand I don't know about "hella rare", but definitely not as common as miss Subaru here tries to make it out to be. I actually believe it is on the rise. With feminism aiming to emasculate men and turn them into submissive little girls. Being on the rise doesn't make something common. It means it is in the process of growing.
@TruthBringer all my I said is that it was pretty common, and is, common enough that a lot of women have experienced it and that I personally have encounter multiple times. At this point you just want to argue to argue. Which is fine, you’re entitled to your opinion, so we will just have to agree to disagree.
@TruthBringer Well with me, it wasn't because of feminism. My ex was kind of tough, so I got my love of strength in women from her. Ironically, she was only 5 feet tall and curvy without much muscle.
@TomGarand there is nothing wrong with that, a lot of people enjoy taking a sexually submissive role because it allows them to detach from their day to day lives. To give up some control and let someone else take over for a little while.
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I don't think it's uncommon to like muscular women. It may be uncommon to prefer them, I don't know.
I specifically meant women stronger than THEM.
Yeah, I don't think it's uncommon. I don't know many people who would turn a woman down for being stronger than them, and the ones who more likely would are the ones who are super strong themselves.
I don’t like buff women. They’re not attractive to me. I don’t like girls that look like men. I’m attracted to feminine women.
I wasn't asking if you were, I was asking if you know how often something like this happens. I'm assuming you don't.
we can only know our own experience and what we observe, so he's helping you by giving you another piece of the puzzle. that's one vote for "no". Of course he doesn't know how every other man on the planet feels.
I all ways liked a strong girl and she still is but she never new she was she keep up with collecting wood in the woods.
... I'm sorry, your grammar's a little shot.
It's common, just like people who like white chocolate and others who don't. Attraction isn't a A+B=C thing it's different with every individual.
Its a fetish for most. But pretty sure most are not into it for the dom factor.
Guys would like a strong woman who could do sports but still look feminine.
Few guys would like someone stronger or more manly than them
And the few guys who do want someone stronger?
And what?
What does that say about them?
They often tend to be more submissive. Other than like any other.
I don't really mind or care how people choose to enjoy their lives.
Richness of life i suppose.
Well, if he is a real man then he won't be having any problem.
Well said
WTF is this shit? What kind of a masculine straight guy would want a machine girl? Then he’d just turn gay.
How can her strength and physique turn a guy into gay?
Very uncommon, if anything usually because guys aren't pathetic enough for that to happen.
How is that pathetic, my guy?
Women are biologically at such an overwhelming disadvantage, the literal meaning of "pathetic" works here.
And men who actually enjoy her being stronger than him--what does that say about them as people?
I dont mind if she would be stronger. But would mind if she was bigger lol
Taller? Why?
No taller doesn't bother me, but if she wear heels, it may bother me
Because the height difference is emasculating at that point?
Maybe. But it's more like You are tall, why do You want to be taller?
I guess if they're the dominant type (which most tall girls are not), it makes them feel more powerful.
I don't know about others but I for one, are strongly atracted to one
For real? Who is she?
A classmate 🌚
Well, good luck!
That's fine. All that matters is that she loves me and respects me. And all I ask the same.
Literally as common as there are women who are like that. So not that common.
Well, a lot of the guys, like me, are weak and have very little arm strength. So it's more about how strong they are compared to us, not JUST the fact that they are strong.
Go to the gym bitch
Nigga, was that even necessary?
I don't think very common unless he himself is built
For the man to be built and still weaker than her, she'd either have to be overly muscular--like those female bodybuilders who are obviously abusing sterioids--or freakishly tall in addition to being strong. I'd say around as tall as Shaq.
It's somewhat attractive until you reveal the size of that clit 😳
Yeah, steroid abuse is not attractive.
it's pretty common actually
It isn't. Otherwise we would see a lot more bulky women walking down the street.
@TruthBringer Well, how often do you think something like this happens?
@TruthBringer 42% of the US population is over weight.
Bulky and overweight are different
@Subarugirl We weren't talking about overweight. Like @Vivaldi said, there is a difference. If I was talking about being overweight then I would use terms such as 'obese', 'fat', 'overweight'. Not 'bulky' which in the bodybuilding world has its own term.
as its own meaning*
@TomGarand In my experience, not often. Anytime I happen to see such a woman with a guy either in the streets or in any gym (and I've been to many), there is always some bigger and buffer dude with her. And if like I said this truly was common, then we would see this case a lot more and a lot more promoted. On the contrary, men do not like bulky or buff women. Men like in shape feminine women.
@TruthBringer I didn’t say all, I said that it happens even though it’s not the norm. I have met men who are into that. It’s really more of a fetish than anything else but there are men out there who are into it.
@TruthBringer You haven't seen any skinny or shorter men who are into it? I actually saw a video on the topic where a guy asked several men if they liked muscular girls (NOT necessarily women who are stronger than the men THEMSELVES), and the skinny guys thought the girl's muscle was too much. She wasn't a huge, manly FBB, by the way.
I genuinely thought the skinnier, weaker men who answered the question might not mind. For those men, I thought it'd make sense to have a partner who could protect them.
@Subarugirl When people say "common" they usually mean something that is seen once in a while or on the regular. They don't refer to something that exists but isn't seen often or being the norm. So it exists, but it's not common.
@TomGarand No I haven't. However, that doesn't mean I'm saying they don't exist. They do. But they aren't common. Especially not where I'm from. The vast majority of men aren't into those kind of women.
Too Much Burger King and MecDonalds?
@TruthBringer maybe you just don't see it because you aren't targeted by it. I on the other hand have many times and it probably has something to do with the fact that I am strong and 6 ft tall. Plus men aren't as fetishized as women are. Some women are fetishized for being small and petite, or have large breasts, or being an "amazon".
@Subarugirl How did you feel being sought after for those traits of yours, anyways? A lot of tall women are insecure about their height.
I don't like being objectified or fetishized.. it sucks
Well, you think women fawning over men because they're tall is fetishizing? Because for a lot of women--especially short ones--it seems to be because tall men are supposedly stronger. @Subarugirl
I am obese too
There is a difference between finding certain physical attributes attractive and fetishizing them.
Attraction is defined as the action or power of evoking interest, pleasure, or liking for someone or something.
A fetish is defined as a form of sexual desire in which gratification is strongly linked to a particular object or activity or a part of the body other than the sexual organs
@Subarugirl Sweetheart, just because there are dudes going after girls who happen to be a bit more toned or happen to be taller, doesn't mean that THAT is what they truly want. Men are known for shooting their shots left and right for the sake of having sex. That's what it's about. Getting laid. To a man, it doesn't matter who he is fucking as long as he gets laid. But you would have known this if you actually done proper research about men's nature. So when it comes to the actual question being asked, no, it isn't common. Will men still smash for the sake of getting laid? More likely yes.
@TruthBringer I'm talking about my personal experience and experiences shared with me from women my height and taller, and I can assure you that it happens frequently. That fact here is that you are talking about a topic that you don't really have any experience in, like macrophilia, Vorarephilia, and a bunch of others.
Fetishizing women who are stronger than her male counterpart is a subset of macrophilia.
I would speculate that the fetish is probably tied to a broader interest in dominance and submission, given that most porn and erotica in this area depicts a stronger person wielding power over someone weaker. Being submissive is a common kink among both sexes.
Being taller doesn't necessarily mean you are strong or stronger than the guy. I think the premise of the question is based on women who are a bit more bulky.
@TruthBringer When not in a nonsexual context, that is true. However, in a sexual when it comes to macrophilia fetishes and domination kinks, the two are very close related of not synonymous.
Which is not as common as you try to make it sound as it is ;)
@Subarugirl So a guy finding physical strength and height in women attractive isn't fetishizing either?
@TruthBringer Actually BDSM is pretty common, and more common than you realize... it's been becoming more and more main stream for years.
Leon F. Seltzer, Ph. D. states
"The fact that sexual submission sites for straight males are even more popular than domination sites indicates that flipping to the other side may offer its own satisfaction precisely because it’s such a stark variant.
For instance, there’s a large miscellany of male submission sites—from ones devoted to forced feminization (“Strapped in Silk”), to CFNM (Clothed Female, Naked Male); to several flagrantly masochistic sites, such as CBT (which doesn’t stand for Cognitive Behavioral Therapy but something that ends in the word “torture”). "
www.psychologytoday.com/.../dominant-or-submissive-paradox-power-in-sexual-relations
Guys, I feel like vomitting after smoking a captan black cigarette. What would help me?
BDSM is a typical female fantasy. Not a typical male fantasy, although with the feminization of men, it doesn't strike me as a surprise that the interest is increasing. As I said, the question being asked is whether guys like physically stronger girls. Which is not as common as you try to make it out to be. Your red herring is hereby dismissed. Come back when your capable to produce arguments without logical fallacies.
@TruthBringer “ BDSM is a typical female fantasy. Not a typical male fantasy”
according what evidence?
Because according to the national library of medicine “ In total, 1.8% of sexually active people (2.2% of men, 1.3% of women) said they had been involved in BDSM in the previous year.”
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18331257/
It’s common enough that my self and and a lot of other tall women I know have have come into contact with men who are into it.
How many of the guys that chased you (including romantically) were short? From what I've seen, it looks like short guys like tall girls more than the taller ones do.
" In total, 1.8% of sexually active people (2.2% of men, 1.3% of women) said they had been involved in BDSM in the previous year. This was more common among gay/lesbian and bisexual people. People who had engaged in BDSM were more likely to have experienced oral sex and/or anal sex, to have had more than one partner in the past year, to have had sex with someone other than their regular partner, and to have: taken part in phone sex, visited an Internet sex site, viewed an X-rated (pornographic) film or video, used a sex toy, had group sex, or taken part in manual stimulation of the anus, fisting or rimming. "
Those numbers do not prove that men like to be in the submissive role of BDSM. More often than not, BDSM within the porn industry focusses on women being on the submissive, not men who want to be submissive and getting plowed by a (buff) woman. Sorry love, but you actually have not disproven what I said. Pulling random numbers and stripping them out of context continues to prove that you don't have good debating skills.
So not only did you continue talking about this red herring, but sadly, it backfired right in your face.
@Subarugirl
"Conclusion: Our findings support the idea that BDSM is simply a sexual interest or subculture attractive to a minority, and for most participants not a pathological symptom of past abuse or difficulty with "normal" sex."
Minority.
Your own source literally validated my point. Thanks for sharing.
3 out of the 4 people I have been with were shorter than I was. Though all of them were secure in their masculinity and none of them fetishized my height.
@TruthBringer I guess men like me are HELLA rare, then!
@TomGarand I don't know about "hella rare", but definitely not as common as miss Subaru here tries to make it out to be. I actually believe it is on the rise. With feminism aiming to emasculate men and turn them into submissive little girls. Being on the rise doesn't make something common. It means it is in the process of growing.
@TruthBringer all my I said is that it was pretty common, and is, common enough that a lot of women have experienced it and that I personally have encounter multiple times. At this point you just want to argue to argue. Which is fine, you’re entitled to your opinion, so we will just have to agree to disagree.
@TruthBringer Well with me, it wasn't because of feminism. My ex was kind of tough, so I got my love of strength in women from her. Ironically, she was only 5 feet tall and curvy without much muscle.
And what if the guy is naturally more of a Sub?
@TomGarand there is nothing wrong with that, a lot of people enjoy taking a sexually submissive role because it allows them to detach from their day to day lives. To give up some control and let someone else take over for a little while.
I like it but i think its probs less than 10 percent
Yeah it's kind of a turn-on being with a woman who you know can kick your ass
I would like to meet a girl stronger than myself. I'd like to strangle each other when it's time to meet him.
Not common I'd say. However Different guy has different things that turns them on