What do you think of this (probably controversial) fantasy?

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I’ve wondered what it would be like to marry a rich woman and have babies with her. It wouldn’t be just for her money (I’d have to like her too) but that would be the major factor and we would be honest about it to each other from the start. I see a lot of women around 30 and older, many of them very eligible, whose reproductive clocks are ticking (a rude comment perhaps, but true), who want to get married and have kids (and are often open about this desire) but men just aren’t interested. I think this is because far fewer men are interested in marriage/kids these days, while women’s interest is probably only slightly lower than it ever has been.

Anyway I’m young, ‘handsome’ and ‘hot’ and ‘cute’ (according to random girls, not just girlfriends/friends/relatives lol), with Mensa-level intelligence, good health/fitness and a good job. I think I’d be a pretty good catch. As long as the woman was fairly intelligent/pretty/good-natured, and willing to have frequent sex, I could probably be quite happily married to her for life lol. Maybe I could even fall in love with her eventually, as I’m quite open-hearted/open-minded. I certainly wouldn’t cheat on her, abuse her or abandon her, as I really oppose all those things.

Girls and guys, what are your views on this fantasy? Moral? Immoral? Realistic? Unrealistic? Etc.

Note: about a year ago I actually had a relationship for about 6 months with a 37 year old woman (not for money lol). It was actually the best conversation in a relationship, and the best sex, I’ve ever had. We broke up (on good terms) because we wanted different things. I think her maturity attracted me. Many people say I act like a guy in his late twenties in terms of maturity.

Answer 1

1diamond

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If this is how you see things that's totally up to you, but there are also many older women that have already had kids and simply do not want any more. I think we all have an ideal partner in mind but the truth is you just fall for who you fall for regardless of barriers, money, looks. Once you get THAT feeling none of the qualifying attributes apply any more. You will most probably end up falling for someone you totally would never have thought you would have.

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Of course. But as I say there are many women who do fit the description mentioned in my question, hence why I asked the question. For example in the UK now one in 5 women are childless at 45. Of course some of them don't want children, but many of them do, but by then it's too late.
1diamond

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Yes their are many of who fit your discription absolutely but like I say you just fall for who you fall for when you get THAT feeling. I used to think that I had a type but as I have aged I realize I don't really, I just go for what feels right or should I say who feels right. I wouldn't say looks don't matter at all or I would be lying, and obviousley life is much easier with a bit of money behind you. But they are not foremost in my mind if you know what I mean. I have to feel THAT vibe!

Answer 2

Asker

Of course. But as I say there are many women who do fit the description mentioned in my question, hence why I asked the question. For example in the UK now one in 5 women are childless at 45. Of course some of them don't want children, but many of them do, but by then it's too late.

Answer 3

1diamond

Yes their are many of who fit your discription absolutely but like I say you just fall for who you fall for when you get THAT feeling. I used to think that I had a type but as I have aged I realize I don't really, I just go for what feels right or should I say who feels right. I wouldn't say looks don't matter at all or I would be lying, and obviousley life is much easier with a bit of money behind you. But they are not foremost in my mind if you know what I mean. I have to feel THAT vibe!

Answer 4

Anonymous

I don't see a problem with it. If that's what you want to do, who am I to judge?

I just have to throw in that guys definitely have biological clocks, too. I have a lot of guy friends in their late 20s - early 30s and those that are single are ready to settle down...sometimes desperately so. And most of those that are married have baby fever : P

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True. But by 'reproductive clock', I mean fertility, the actual ability to reproduce, which is much stricter for women than for men. Yes, there are men who want to marry and have kids, but there are far more women and the women who desire it seem to desire it much more pressingly than the men who desire it desire it, again possibly because of the differences in their reproductive clocks.

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Asker

True. But by 'reproductive clock', I mean fertility, the actual ability to reproduce, which is much stricter for women than for men. Yes, there are men who want to marry and have kids, but there are far more women and the women who desire it seem to desire it much more pressingly than the men who desire it desire it, again possibly because of the differences in their reproductive clocks.

Answer 6

why-makoto-kun

Yoda

Eh, rich people need love too. Some people would love that arrangement. BUT you have no business doing it if you think you're doing her a "favor." You need to bring things to the table too.

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Well as I said I wouldn't be doing it as an act of charity lol. Hence I said 'rich' woman. And hence I mentioned my own qualities too, some of which are objectively rather rare.
why-makoto-kun

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Well, if you really have all those qualities, you would be a rare catch, at least for my area LOL.
why-makoto-kun

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Thinking about it, isn't it funny how if a girl said everything you said but switched the genders, she'd be called a dirty golddigger?

Also thinking about it, it seems like no guys around me don't want children. I don't want kids and almost every guy I date says it would be nice. I'm like noooo
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Asker

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Interesting. And unusual. And, yes, I suppose those qualities are rare. The Mensa qualification puts me in the top 2%. That's even before we take into account anything else LOL. I think people dislike dihonest gold-diggers (though in soem cases it's pretty obvious LOL). I actually think it's more acceptable for women to care about money than it is for men.
Asker

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*dishonest
why-makoto-kun

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Idk. It's very hard to find a genuinely good person who is smart and sincere and relatively attractive, especially one who can support himself and puts effort into his endeavors.
Asker

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Well of course it is! Almost by definition, 50% of the population is below average intelligence. Physical attractiveness is subjective of course, but most people find overweight and obese people less attractive, and that's 70% of the population in the US. What other things are generally found unattractive? 26% of Americans are mentally ill. 25% are unemployed or underemployed.
why-makoto-kun

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Dear God, haha. Really though, 70% are overweight? Isn't that a bit much? There's mostly skinny people in my area.
Asker

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Haha, good. Obviously, there are regional variations. But those are the overall national stats.
why-makoto-kun

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x_x Can you send me your source? I am morbidly fascinated.
Asker

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Here you go: link

Answer 7

Asker

Well as I said I wouldn't be doing it as an act of charity lol. Hence I said 'rich' woman. And hence I mentioned my own qualities too, some of which are objectively rather rare.

Answer 8

why-makoto-kun

Well, if you really have all those qualities, you would be a rare catch, at least for my area LOL.

Answer 9

why-makoto-kun

Thinking about it, isn't it funny how if a girl said everything you said but switched the genders, she'd be called a dirty golddigger?

Also thinking about it, it seems like no guys around me don't want children. I don't want kids and almost every guy I date says it would be nice. I'm like noooo

Answer 10

Asker

Interesting. And unusual. And, yes, I suppose those qualities are rare. The Mensa qualification puts me in the top 2%. That's even before we take into account anything else LOL. I think people dislike dihonest gold-diggers (though in soem cases it's pretty obvious LOL). I actually think it's more acceptable for women to care about money than it is for men.

Answer 11

Asker

*dishonest

Answer 12

why-makoto-kun

Idk. It's very hard to find a genuinely good person who is smart and sincere and relatively attractive, especially one who can support himself and puts effort into his endeavors.

Answer 13

Asker

Well of course it is! Almost by definition, 50% of the population is below average intelligence. Physical attractiveness is subjective of course, but most people find overweight and obese people less attractive, and that's 70% of the population in the US. What other things are generally found unattractive? 26% of Americans are mentally ill. 25% are unemployed or underemployed.

Answer 14

why-makoto-kun

Dear God, haha. Really though, 70% are overweight? Isn't that a bit much? There's mostly skinny people in my area.

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Asker

Haha, good. Obviously, there are regional variations. But those are the overall national stats.

Answer 16

why-makoto-kun

x_x Can you send me your source? I am morbidly fascinated.

Answer 17

Asker

Here you go: link

Answer 18

Anonymous

It's realistic.

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Answer 19

Anonymous

stupid.

You assume that these women are something to be pitied and that they'd be dying to have you.

Fat chance.

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Asker

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Why do many women get angry when someone points out that fewer men are wanting to get married and have kids these days? It's just a fact. Being angry about it doesn't change it, lol. Did I say I pity these women? No. Did I say they are 'dying to have' me? I said I was a pretty good catch (hard to deny). Think about it rationally. Many women are for example getting sperm donors these days, but being a single parent drastically reduces your desirability. And having a partner makes it much easier.
Opinion Owner

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if you aren't even capable of understanding the hypocrisy and condescension of your plan then you're an idiot.
Asker

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That's not a rational reply to my reply. It's just more emotion. If a woman's single at 40 for example, it's not condescension to recognize that she is in fact single at 40. And, if she doesn't want to be single, she has to recognize that her current approach isn't working for her. As for hypocrisy, hypocrisy by definition requires dishonesty of some kind. I'm being entirely honest, which is surely the reason for your anger.
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Asker

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And, as for idiocy, you know better than the people at Mensa, do you? LOL.
why-makoto-kun

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I think she thinks you're implying that these women "need" a man and you could fill in for that job. Which would be pretentious, but I'm not getting that vibe.
Asker

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Well, of course, I'm not saying women 'need' men. But there are many women who are open about the fact that they want marriage and kids and can't get it. It's not me saying that. It's them.
why-makoto-kun

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Yep.

Answer 20

Asker

Why do many women get angry when someone points out that fewer men are wanting to get married and have kids these days? It's just a fact. Being angry about it doesn't change it, lol. Did I say I pity these women? No. Did I say they are 'dying to have' me? I said I was a pretty good catch (hard to deny). Think about it rationally. Many women are for example getting sperm donors these days, but being a single parent drastically reduces your desirability. And having a partner makes it much easier.

Answer 21

Opinion Owner

if you aren't even capable of understanding the hypocrisy and condescension of your plan then you're an idiot.

Answer 22

Asker

That's not a rational reply to my reply. It's just more emotion. If a woman's single at 40 for example, it's not condescension to recognize that she is in fact single at 40. And, if she doesn't want to be single, she has to recognize that her current approach isn't working for her. As for hypocrisy, hypocrisy by definition requires dishonesty of some kind. I'm being entirely honest, which is surely the reason for your anger.

Answer 23

Asker

And, as for idiocy, you know better than the people at Mensa, do you? LOL.

Answer 24

why-makoto-kun

I think she thinks you're implying that these women "need" a man and you could fill in for that job. Which would be pretentious, but I'm not getting that vibe.

Answer 25

Asker

Well, of course, I'm not saying women 'need' men. But there are many women who are open about the fact that they want marriage and kids and can't get it. It's not me saying that. It's them.

Answer 26

why-makoto-kun

Yep.

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