To me marriage is meaningless. Just a title that holds no weight. Not wanting to get married is not a bad thing, getting married offers no benefit.
What can you do when you are married that you cannot do when you are "just" living together? Do not mention "willingness to commit". That is not a reason.
Yep pretty much this. The other thing to consider is with the rise of women who want marriage and the decrease in the number of men who do women are going to have to lower their standards. I've seen a lot of this already. The losers and flawed guys women are willing to accept to get a ring never cease to amaze me.
I work with a lot of guys in the drilling industry who make 100k+ a year and feel like they work at mc Donald's after they pay child support and alamony. I'm 27 but I'm not stable enough right now to want a family have people relying on me. But as much as I fight it I know some day I'll find some one I can't bare to be without. I hope i don't end up like them.
This is why I'm staying unmarried (single if it must be). My decision has not been changed since so long, that I lost count already. I witnessed a few married couples, I witnessed what happened after and I witnessed my own childhood. I didn't like any of it. It's just not my thing.
Never lose hope folks. There are always enough men, who are after marriage. Population is still gaining. I doubt it will be stopped anytime until forced so.
I think not all men want to get married, when i was in my teenage years through high school, i wanted to get married Sadly through college it didn't happened. I am 30 now and don't really regret not getting married. I enjoy being single and doing whatever I want with the burden of a wife or children that I have support until the day i die.
yeah that would be cool to meet like minded people in this way. I think there must be a lot of people who don't want to get married it's just hard to meet each other out in the real world...
When I was a young cat I wanted to get married and came close once. Now that I'm older and much wiser and for many very important reasons I can't tell you how thankful I am that I didn't make the catastrophic mistake of getting married.
@Someguy17 I was there for my mom and dad all the way up until they passed from this life. I can tell you that I personally witnessed that both of them saw our relatives that have passed away waiting on them there to meet them before they passed on. Only those that don't believe in God die alone. Remember that.
@superficialgirls And where do you get the idea I'm trying to scare somebody? I got news for you nothing I said here is untrue what so ever. I would not tell a lie about my own parents like that. So if what I said here scares you in any way, then you may want to reconsider your position and start making my God your God too.
Well, I have decided to stay single forever (till the end), and the decision is final but I have my own reasons and not the one that are mentioned above. Anyways, what you are saying is also right.
Probably on the same boat as you. In India, marriage is just an evil nightmare for men due to laws like 498 A. I'm also planning to have a girlfriend but not to marry a girl. The relationship is only between the two consenting partners. Society has no right to interfere in that.
I used to want to get married after finding a beautiful girlfriend (during my 30s) but thats just fantasy for me and I grew out of it. Marriage costs way too much money and then kids cost even more (fuck that). I'd rather be myself and live life working hanging with my friends and making new friends everywhere I go spending time w/ my family, playing videogames, going to the gym, smokin in Colorado, partyin, goin to concerts, enjoying life. I prefer the party life than to be in a relationship
Marriage is no longer palatable due to how the breakdown of marriages are handled. When you get married you're banking on a person being there for the rest of your life. You make decisions and sacrifices for that cause.
If, as a man, I decide I want out without any fault on her part I SHOULD pay through my ass for breaking contract.
But when SHE breaks contract - there is nothing but a payday for her. HE CHEATS: Payday for Her SHE CHEATS: Payday for Her
There's an easy way to avoid these problems: get married without a marriage license. Have a ceremony, call yourself married, but don't let big guv mettle.
Yeah, in most places you will still be common law married. I know several couples that were surprised when they found out they were already married. You better find out the laws in your area before you try this.
Right, they do still get married for religious reasons, wherein does this moral you speak of lay?
Not being married can be an attractive option either way less responsibility, less money strain, more space, freedom, Me? I'm not religious, I still want to be married some day. There's legal benefits that make it an attractive option for the one I want to spend my life with, plus it's almost like a promise in my eyes, that "I have chosen you, and will stay with you for the rest of my life"
A non religious person have the practical enticements and the romance of the wedding, religious persons have a religious based moral for getting married, I'll think this influences marriage's quite a bit, especially here in Europe for religious sentiments are very low.
By religious morals, I am referring mainly to the judeo-christian and Islamic beliefs in marriage as the only moral option for sex and family units.
I don't think all men lose in court but undoubtedly if he makes more money, he more than likely will.
I also haven't seen the "Father figure loss of respect" at all. If you're talking about entertainment, I think it's asinine to compare what is mostly made by men to depict what common people view a father as.
And there are many marriages which don't cost men the rest.
You said that "You will lose in court" which a bold-faced lie. Many men do not lose in court. Again, I haven't seen the loss of respect for fathers at all so I don't know where that came from. That is what I am talking about and that is what you said.
No need to get an attitude. I know what I typed. These are reasons why some men do not want to get married. I DID NOT say everyone had to believe this.
Maybe you did not understand what I wrote in the mytake, but I never said the loss of respect or you will lose in court is certain for all men, these are reasons some men have for not getting married. I never said these are certain. I'm pretty sure I made myself clear.
God, am I surrounded by stupid people on here? lol
You're Take comes off as giving reasons why some men don't want to marry that you agree with/understand. Otherwise, why the hell would you make a Take for reasons that a LOT of people know that some men don't want to marry? Just to make a useless Take?
For any person who is inane enough to believe that every single man will lose in court which is what you SEEM to be doing by writing this Take is someone who does not have enough rational sense in my opinion to make such a life-changing decision.
If that's not what you believe and you simply wrote this Take to regurgitate what a lot of people already know--some reasons why some men DON'T want to marry--it was a waste of my time reading it due to the fact that I already know this.
You are immature and irrelevant at this point and very childish. Why did you answer if you feel this was all a waste of time. You are the one who is irrational and insulting me for no reason. If you are trying to make a rational argument you should actually talk about the take not project your issues on me because you think I don't agree with you
I'm not looking to date right now. It just seems easier to write about these things when I don't plan on dating lol. I have learned a lot but I really am focused on getting my life together and I'm not so focused on romantic relationships per se but I am focused on my familial relationships and my friendships
@iamyourneighbor no, but more and more men are starting to feel this way. And who could blame them? Cases of a man losing everything to a gold-digging bitch, or a prenup being outright IGNORED by the judge, are becoming all too common.
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To me marriage is meaningless. Just a title that holds no weight. Not wanting to get married is not a bad thing, getting married offers no benefit.
What can you do when you are married that you cannot do when you are "just" living together? Do not mention "willingness to commit". That is not a reason.
An actual marriage carries with it a whole host of risks that effect almost exclusively men, such as being jailed for being poor.
Yep pretty much this. The other thing to consider is with the rise of women who want marriage and the decrease in the number of men who do women are going to have to lower their standards. I've seen a lot of this already. The losers and flawed guys women are willing to accept to get a ring never cease to amaze me.
If the guys are losers some women are willing to accept wouldn't that mean women would have to lower their standards?
One of the things that put men off marriage is that it's us that bring more to the table in a marriage its never equal.
I work with a lot of guys in the drilling industry who make 100k+ a year and feel like they work at mc Donald's after they pay child support and alamony. I'm 27 but I'm not stable enough right now to want a family have people relying on me. But as much as I fight it I know some day I'll find some one I can't bare to be without. I hope i don't end up like them.
Exactly!
This is why I'm staying unmarried (single if it must be). My decision has not been changed since so long, that I lost count already. I witnessed a few married couples, I witnessed what happened after and I witnessed my own childhood. I didn't like any of it. It's just not my thing.
Never lose hope folks. There are always enough men, who are after marriage. Population is still gaining. I doubt it will be stopped anytime until forced so.
I think not all men want to get married, when i was in my teenage years through high school, i wanted to get married Sadly through college it didn't happened. I am 30 now and don't really regret not getting married. I enjoy being single and doing whatever I want with the burden of a wife or children that I have support until the day i die.
That's why my title says some men not all men
I cannot wait to meet these dudes! I never want to marry either:)
yeah that would be cool to meet like minded people in this way. I think there must be a lot of people who don't want to get married it's just hard to meet each other out in the real world...
@jager66 if you talk to people it's not hard
When I was a young cat I wanted to get married and came close once. Now that I'm older and much wiser and for many very important reasons I can't tell you how thankful I am that I didn't make the catastrophic mistake of getting married.
But you will die alone?
Lol Hercules like being married means you will not die alone? How stupid can you be
You mean spend my life alone. But no I will not die alone and I'll know I spent my life wisely.
@Hercules073 Everyone dies alone.
@Someguy17 I was there for my mom and dad all the way up until they passed from this life. I can tell you that I personally witnessed that both of them saw our relatives that have passed away waiting on them there to meet them before they passed on. Only those that don't believe in God die alone. Remember that.
Adding "god" and trying to scare people who don't believe in your god doesn't help your argument.
@superficialgirls And where do you get the idea I'm trying to scare somebody? I got news for you nothing I said here is untrue what so ever. I would not tell a lie about my own parents like that. So if what I said here scares you in any way, then you may want to reconsider your position and start making my God your God too.
Well, I have decided to stay single forever (till the end), and the decision is final but I have my own reasons and not the one that are mentioned above. Anyways, what you are saying is also right.
Probably on the same boat as you. In India, marriage is just an evil nightmare for men due to laws like 498 A. I'm also planning to have a girlfriend but not to marry a girl. The relationship is only between the two consenting partners. Society has no right to interfere in that.
Correct, society has no right to interfere. Well said.
It seems now that in many ways including legally and judicially women have the most power during and after a marriage.
I used to want to get married after finding a beautiful girlfriend (during my 30s) but thats just fantasy for me and I grew out of it. Marriage costs way too much money and then kids cost even more (fuck that). I'd rather be myself and live life working hanging with my friends and making new friends everywhere I go spending time w/ my family, playing videogames, going to the gym, smokin in Colorado, partyin, goin to concerts, enjoying life. I prefer the party life than to be in a relationship
You're only 17 lol
this gives me so much hope lol. i should have cohabited a long time ago but now... well. we'll see
Cohabit for too long and the state will just declare you married anyway.
@Transigence not in some states =p
Common law, tis the case. xx
Marriage is no longer palatable due to how the breakdown of marriages are handled. When you get married you're banking on a person being there for the rest of your life. You make decisions and sacrifices for that cause.
If, as a man, I decide I want out without any fault on her part I SHOULD pay through my ass for breaking contract.
But when SHE breaks contract - there is nothing but a payday for her.
HE CHEATS: Payday for Her
SHE CHEATS: Payday for Her
This inequality decimates men.
Ok first of all dating is NOT easy. Secondly, marriage is expensive and a lot of young men are finding themselves straddling student loans.
There's an easy way to avoid these problems: get married without a marriage license. Have a ceremony, call yourself married, but don't let big guv mettle.
Just be sure to avoid a common law marriage.
Yeah, in most places you will still be common law married. I know several couples that were surprised when they found out they were already married. You better find out the laws in your area before you try this.
Really? That's quite interesting.
this is true law and people support woman more and kids respect mothers more.
As people becomes less and less religious, then marriage loses it's moral points.
So I thing the decline in marriage simply shows the decline in religion!! It's a bit oversimplified I'll grant, but pretty true not the less.
What moral point does marriage provide us pray tell?
And how does religion alone provide that supposed existing moral?
Religious people still do get married based on their religions beliefs, if you are not religions then not being married is an attractive option.
Right, they do still get married for religious reasons, wherein does this moral you speak of lay?
Not being married can be an attractive option either way less responsibility, less money strain, more space, freedom,
Me? I'm not religious, I still want to be married some day. There's legal benefits that make it an attractive option for the one I want to spend my life with, plus it's almost like a promise in my eyes, that "I have chosen you, and will stay with you for the rest of my life"
A non religious person have the practical enticements and the romance of the wedding, religious persons have a religious based moral for getting married, I'll think this influences marriage's quite a bit, especially here in Europe for religious sentiments are very low.
By religious morals, I am referring mainly to the judeo-christian and Islamic beliefs in marriage as the only moral option for sex and family units.
I don't think all men lose in court but undoubtedly if he makes more money, he more than likely will.
I also haven't seen the "Father figure loss of respect" at all. If you're talking about entertainment, I think it's asinine to compare what is mostly made by men to depict what common people view a father as.
And there are many marriages which don't cost men the rest.
That's why the title is called some men not all men
You said that "You will lose in court" which a bold-faced lie. Many men do not lose in court. Again, I haven't seen the loss of respect for fathers at all so I don't know where that came from. That is what I am talking about and that is what you said.
No need to get an attitude. I know what I typed. These are reasons why some men do not want to get married. I DID NOT say everyone had to believe this.
Maybe you did not understand what I wrote in the mytake, but I never said the loss of respect or you will lose in court is certain for all men, these are reasons some men have for not getting married. I never said these are certain. I'm pretty sure I made myself clear.
God, am I surrounded by stupid people on here? lol
You're Take comes off as giving reasons why some men don't want to marry that you agree with/understand. Otherwise, why the hell would you make a Take for reasons that a LOT of people know that some men don't want to marry? Just to make a useless Take?
For any person who is inane enough to believe that every single man will lose in court which is what you SEEM to be doing by writing this Take is someone who does not have enough rational sense in my opinion to make such a life-changing decision.
If that's not what you believe and you simply wrote this Take to regurgitate what a lot of people already know--some reasons why some men DON'T want to marry--it was a waste of my time reading it due to the fact that I already know this.
Holy fuck... what was number 1? "Father figure loss of respect". You also said "You will lose in court" which indicates a GUARANTEED loss.
... You know what? I'm done. I can only handle so much irrationality for one night. I'm sorry for even posting on this Take.
There was no need to call me stupid. Please grow up if you are going to personally attack me because of your opposing views
You are immature and irrelevant at this point and very childish. Why did you answer if you feel this was all a waste of time. You are the one who is irrational and insulting me for no reason. If you are trying to make a rational argument you should actually talk about the take not project your issues on me because you think I don't agree with you
Mostly made by men... Sure, keep believing that fairy tale.
now what I'm curious about OP, is knowing this information, how do you plan to use it to help better your relationships? (just a thought).
I'm not looking to date right now. It just seems easier to write about these things when I don't plan on dating lol. I have learned a lot but I really am focused on getting my life together and I'm not so focused on romantic relationships per se but I am focused on my familial relationships and my friendships
fair enough :). its easy to gain more perspective when you take a step back from the things you are being conscious about.
The reason men don't want to get married is because there's nothing in it for them. They only have everything to lose, and nothing to gain.
That's not how all men feel.
He's somewhat right.
This is exactly my short answer to "why aren't you married?"
A huge movement of men who feel this way are waking up. MGTOW.
@iamyourneighbor no, but more and more men are starting to feel this way. And who could blame them? Cases of a man losing everything to a gold-digging bitch, or a prenup being outright IGNORED by the judge, are becoming all too common.
Not all men are smart.