from my guy pov it is when you are reasonably ready both mentally and financially to support a family. hard 2 say when exactly. prob most guys reach a decent point in their lives and careers at around 30 if they are ever going to reach it. thats sort of make it or break it cuz if a guy gets well into his 30s and still between jobs and whatnot and struggling to make ends meet, he's probably never gonna get there
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