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What Do You Think It Would Take For People To Start Believing In The Sanctity Of Marriage Again?
Brainsbeforebeauty
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- I don’t know, a great start would be ending the ease of procuring pornography. The amount of times I get threesome questions, cuckold questions, or other stuff that porn glorifies. Next, Hollywood needs to go back to celebrating marriage, not shitting on men as being too incompetent to change a diaper, make lunch, wash a load of laundry, or watch their own children without them looking like extras in a remake of Lord of the Flies, or take care of their sick child… only a ‘mother’s touch’ will work”! I honestly think that our general culture and pop culture telling US girls, that we don’t need a husband 24/7 is really sinking in. So many of my friends don’t even want to get married, and the others believe that marriage is disposable! “You got problems? Kick him to the curb!” Is a terrible message to send young girls. The issue is that nobody is promoting marriage as something important! All I get told by those in authority over me (outside of the home) “you can be anything you want to be”, which is good, but then they follow that up with “you don’t need a man to be happy, or even raise your children”. The worse message I get from school, the media, and social media is, “you definitely do not need a man to be happy, complete, or even a mother”!!! Maybe start there?0|20|3Is this still revelant?
you lost me at the porn part. How about "teach women they need to be physically available for their husbands if they want them to work hard and keep it in their pants", then maybe he'll turn the porn off.
@sixtyeightplusone Talk about missing the point! First, you REALLY should have continued reading past LINE ONE! I mean that entire thesis is about lifting men up, stopping the portrayal of men as incompetent, stupid, or unable to take care of their own children. For media and Hollywood to stop telling girls they don’t need a man to help them raise a family. To quite literally “stop shitting on men“. Yet after reading that, your take away was “why don’t you fuck your husband more“? Do you REALLY think that a woman who believes that men should be lifted up, valued, and honored… hell even praised for the massively important role they play, both in the home, and society at large would be the kind of person who wouldn’t have that same attitude in the bedroom? Moron! Look, you just keep right on sitting in front of the screen jerking off until you get carpal tunnel syndrome for all I care! You live your life the way you want, I will live my life the way I want. America… Freedom of choice isn’t it a beautiful thing!
@CrazyGirl2 that’s pretty much spot on.
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@ChrisMaster69 Thank you so much! It breaks my heart to see commercial after commercial, movie after movie TV show after TV show portraying dads who are incapable of taking care of their own children at all, let alone for even one day! Watching sitcoms where single moms are heralded as heroes, yet with married couples, the dad is always an idiotic buffoon who couldn’t make a grilled cheese for his kids without burning it, or a load of laundry without flooding the house! My mom and dad both work… A lot! Yet they always seemed to work it so one of them would be there for us! My dad is my hero! He not only taught me how to cook, he taught me how to build an engine! They worked together as a team to raise us, the strengths of one making up for the weaknesses of the other, the yin of one to the other’s yang! They’ve been married 25 years, and yet they still act like newlyweds! Not once did either of them ever set us down to give us lessons on how to be a good husband or a good wife… Their entire marriage was a master class on how to get it right! There is no doubt, that the single best thing any parents can do to help ensure their kids future success, is to stay married!
CrazyGirl2,
I really liked your answer. It is mature and level-headed. Maybe you are not so crazy. Men are really confounded about what their place is in women's lives or even if they have one. Despite my age, I am really active and very sharp mentally. Yet I feel completely irrelevant to women. In fact, I feel invisible. I have recently become single again (not my choice) and I cannot even imagine how I might be in another relationship.
Best wishes,
~JSmith
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Anonymous20 dIt really began to die once modern feminism gain steam. I know that many people don’t like to hear feminism being blamed but it’s just the truth. You have to remove any bias here and look at the facts.
To be clear, when I say feminism I don’t mean that women are to blame. Feminism is an ideology.
Once modern feminism gained steam we got the swinging 60s, “free love” and all that. This was also kicked off by the introduction of the birth control pill in the early 60s. This was when divorce rates began to rise, and they began to rise even more rapidly from the early 70s onward. Just look at the statistics and the graphs if you don’t believe me
The main thing all feminists agree on whether you’re talking about man-hating radical feminists or the nice feminists who just believe in equality is that patriarchy is bad.
The more feminist our culture has become, the less patriarchal it has become, the less people have married, the more people have divorced, and the more our dating culture has become a hook-up culture.
Monogamous marriage is something you only see in patriarchal societies. The institution of marriage has to be propped up by the values of the culture. Once you remove those values people no longer value marriage. This is precisely what has happened steadily ever since the 60s.
You can speak about what ifs and if only’s as much as you like, but you can’t have a liberal society in which people are free to sleep around as much as they like and are encouraged to because the culture has become sex-obsessed, and maintain the sanctity of marriage. It’s either one or the other.0|10|0Is this still revelant?I never really looked at it from your perspective like you said it but I definitely do agree with you that women have been inserting more power in their marriages. Women are becoming less and less tolerant of their husbands whether it's because of cheating, abuse, money issues or because they don't want commitment for whatever reason women are inserting more control over their marriages. Why do you think that is tho?
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@Kajiac
I think that would require an entire essay to explain. There are a large number of reasons for it. But the basic idea that should be understood is that in order for most marriages to be viewed with the importance which they used to be all kinds of social pressures need to be in play.
I guess I didn’t answer the question which is what would need to happen for people to revive the sanctity of marriage. It will not be possible without some kind of major collapse or war, which will eventually come.
In these times you tend to see a religious revival, people become more religious when under stress. You see a return of patriarchy as well, as offensive as this will be to feminists, simply because there’s a lot of violence and instability, and men are the ones who provide and protect in these times. Feminism only comes in the good times. I get what you're saying but women don't feel like they need men anymore in fact it's looking like they feel equal or even greater than the men. I live in Houston (major city) and I know a ton a lesbians who would no way get with in man even I'd a war came. Women are not afraid to not comply in this day and age. It seems they've become/are becoming more stubborn than even men are known to be at this point
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@Kajiac
That's true. In today's society they don't need men to survive. They can work just like men, and there are all kinds of safety nets in place for women which there aren't for men, which is why 90% of the homeless are men.
If war/collapse came, I think you'd be surprised at how many of those women would change their tune. The ones who didn't would likely be in trouble.
What many people don't realise is that none of this is actually new. Feminism isn't new. Civilisations go through cycles, rise and fall. In the hard times they're usually patriarchal, and they rise in power under patriarchy. Then they reach a point of success where they decide that they no longer need patriarchy, they think that it's "out-dated" and they become feminist. Gradually the culture degenerates and weakens, although this might take a 100-200 years, then they either collapse as a result of internal anarchic revolution or they get invaded by a more patriarchal culture.
A social anthropologist named J. D. Unwin wrote a book about this titled "Sex And Culture", where he studied the rise and fall of hundreds of past civilisations, and that was the exact pattern he noticed in every single one.
Patriarchy became too abusive and and the rise of feminism punished that. Women are too naturally wild to be kept as pets. My grandmother was for too many years. Once my grandfather died, her trauma from his "leadership" is abundantly clear to me.
- People believe in too many myths.
The first year is the hardest. The first year is the greatest. Marriage causes the relationship to only go one way, down. Especially after kids.
People try to be politically correct and follow social norms with their partners instead of doing what makes them truly happy together.
They also get love and desire confused. You can love many people. It's the "glue" of the relationship. But, desire is something you should feel for your partner. If desire fades then you end up in an ambiguous relationship without true intimacy or connection.
People need to know how to build a relationship from the start. Learn to decide to build connections and intimacy. Don't just slide into it and believe it will "just happen" when the universe drops "the one" in front of you.
That's my take on it.2|20|0Is this still revelant?I would also add that too many people are allowing their attention to be hacked, their minds fragmented and distracted, and they are not paying enough attention to the person literally right in front of them.
The last thing people touch before going to sleep, and the first thing they touch in the morning is their phone instead of their partner. They need to detox from the distractions.- Show All Show Less
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- Get rid of this alimony, child support, no-fault divorce unfairness. If there's money tied to marriage then it defeats the purpose of it. Marriage should be sacrificial love til death do us part, not until we get divorced or unhappy. Have you seen older couples married until they die? Why can't our generation be like this?2|120|1Is this still revelant?
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22103- It would require people being educated to have realistic expectations of marriage and encouraged to have sufficient devotion that they would not run away at the first sign of trouble.1|20|0
- For me it would be two love languages: quality time and words of affirmation.0|10|0
- I have to wonder how many of these comments are from people who have ever been married. 🤔
A lot of people mentioned religion and traditionalism, neither of which my husband or myself are, yet we have maintained strong for nearly 14 years now.
I think people don’t believe in the sanctity of marriage because they don’t fully grasp the necessary competencies of making a relationship last. It involves many different skills that need to be understood and developed though experience and practice.
Many people aren’t aware of them, let alone know how to apply them.1|10|0Well said! And right, people keep acting like they know so much about marriage and relationships yet never been married or had a long committed relationship🤷🏼♀️ like the anon on here who said married prior don't have sex😂 Asked if he ever BEEN married, and of course no reply. 😂
I was a virgin before marriage. And I can guarantee you that I mad ethe right choice. To me marriage has always been sacred. This is one of the main reason why my marital life is successful. No argument, no name calling. Pure love.
- To start believing in themselves understanding each other night just looks alone but knowing and RESPECTING each other for what they believe and live they lives, not try to change some one or control them, communicate together openly no secrets work together as one to build a lasting union and once involved married learn understand what commitment is have self control not lust after another but the one you chose, it's not that difficult, if your not going to be committed stay single that simple, just a waste of time getting involved only to cheat damn, not rocket science, I think that might do for starters to bring back what it is to be joined together as one, but what do I know1|00|0
- Love - it's all you need. When you are in real deep true love, marriage is an "Of course!" thought; you can't imagine not wanting to marry the other person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS3NYABbfZc
It helps if you live in a Yellow Submarine...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2uTFF_3MaA
*sigh* I miss the Sixties...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vefJAtG-ZKI1|00|0Love - like the kind Paul and Linda McCartney had...
I must go back 50 years in time... back to when I was young and happy and full of love myself...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI6C7L66zq8
- I don't believe in the sanctity of marriage church wise - I believe in it as a commitment to each other through interdependence and as necessary for raising their children - What happened is quite simple - and I'll get many dislikes but no counter arguments - feminism happened - Men don't like promiscuity when it comes to long term relationships - Women:let's use the birth control pill alibi and shame them for slut shaming - here we are single motherhood sky rocketing and anyone who researched this knows how bad it is - Men know getting divorce equals 50% off+alimony - Divorce rates are at 75% and 80% of those divorces are INITIATED by women - Most common reason:they got bored or they think they deserve someone "better" - Yea you don't an advisor to tell you it's a damn bad deal as a man to get married - and it shows with how many women raise children alone... all of this crap for the vote🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️0|00|0
- What is the sanctity of marriage? For that matter, what is marriage, other than a piece of paper that constitutes a legal document of two people financially joined at the hip, the sharing of a last name, that has only a monogamous relationship dynamic, in common between one religious expression of this social-spiritual conventional joining of two people, and another?😕
We know that the IRS and the divorce lawyers have very specific definitions and characterizations of what this legal contract means and entails.
0|00|0 - I was sincerely hopeful that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle would be role models for the next generation and through their marriage show how diverse cultures can blend and be a force for the less fortunate as both spoke of their fondness for Africa and going there after getting married. Sadly they went in another direction.
Marriage is being attacked just like other cultural norms and it may be too late to save it. Short of a revolution maybe some powerful people can champion the cause.1|00|0 - there's two parts to this... so marriage is on the decline and to be fair if people dont see a place for it today then there's nothing wrong in that. i know one couple that have been together for 26 years but neither of them ever wanted marriage.
then there's the fact that of those that do decide to marry in the modern world, as a percentage, far fewer of these marriages end in divorce so in reality i think people that do want to marry very much believe in the sanctity of marriage already and far more than the closing days of the last millenia1|00|0 - More seriousness and commitment too it. There is the romance of doing it on a whim and that's means of how you should do it because it's fun that way. But there should be a place where both ask themselves, are we ready for this. Also having marriage become more respected and promoted in pop culture. Lately it can be seen as trendy to get a divorce or not be married. If marriage at least had some more promotion it could help2|00|0
- All I know is, I took the idea of marriage very seriously. I had several girlfriends in my life. I was loyal to them. Never cheated. But I didn't want to get locked into marriage.
To me, marriage would be a solemn vow; a matter of personal honor. My word is my bond. I wanted to be 100% sure that my wife would be the one I wanted to spend the rest of my life with.1|00|0It's hard for to people to live together and learn how to get along. We've had our ups and downs, but we are dedicated to our relationship. And she has been the most proactive. I've learned a lot about myself and become a better person because of her. I'm really lucky.
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@Brainsbeforebeauty. Are you kidding? Most husband's knock themselves dead trying to please their wives... until they finally give up.
- Anonymous20 dWe are married till DEATH do us apart. Only widows have the right to look for a new patner.
The marriage system is decaying. There are more cases of divorces like never before.
Feminism plays a huge role in this it teaches that MARRIAGE is PATRIARCHAL and old fashioned.
Most women are strong and independent but the want to find LOVE and start a FAMILY is even stronger.
Hookup culture is very popular and also ONE NIGHT STANDS.
MARRIAGE SYSTEM IS GOING TO COME TO EXTINCTION.
WE ARE MARRIED TILL DIVORCE DO US APART..1|00|0 - It would take women understanding that at least 40-50% of men don't really like the idea of sex with only one woman for the rest of their lives. Then, it would take men to understand that 70-80% of women don't give a shit if you like it or not, they expect you to do it !!!
And that kiddies, is just the start of it !!! LOL1|10|0Well then them men shouldn't get married and make promises they don't want to keep Problem is some men make those promises and break em even not being married So why even get in any relationship with someone at all then🤷🏼♀️
It's called "rationalization". Or, why not get into an open relationship where you don't have to "cheat". I think I've told you my theory about this before. Like the words of the song:
"Take a glass of water, make it against the law, see how good the water tastes, when you can't have any more". The forbidden fruit always tastes better.
My theory is - what if a woman told her soon to be husband " look, I know you're a man and at some point you're going to want to fuck someone else and cheat on me. It's going to happen. So when it does, don't lie to me or be sneaky about it, just don't your dare bring any diseases home. Just do it".
Ok, besides blowing his mind, and whether she actually means it or not, I'd wager that taking the prohibition away would stick in his head and a lot of men would feel like "hey, I can do what I want, I'm empowered", and it would lose its attraction. I'd bet it would cut the male cheating percentage by at least 40%, maybe more, because that's how men's minds work. Now that I CAN have it, I don't want it, or I certainly don't want it as much. There will always be a percentage of guys who cheat, and nothing will change that. But as I said, I'd BET this would.- Show All Show Less
Don’t get married if you want to have sex with different women. Just know that those women are not going to be loyal to you either.
@MzAsh What about open marriages? What if both people want and agree to that? I believe when folks hear that, their impression is that it's a constant fuck fest by both parties. The open marriages I know of are not like that at al, but rather, the option exists. Obviously if you don't believe in it, it's easy to say "why bother getting married at all", right?
@MzAsh By encourage, you mean you don't believe in them, correct? That's perfectly ok. Personally, I know of a few, as well as a few polyamorous relationships. Interestingly enough, the ones I know of have outlasted the average heterosexual marriage length in the USA by 2 to 1.
Here's some stats. There's a lot to talk about rolled up in them, but just putting the numbers out:
The average heterosexual marriage in the USA over the last 50 years lasts only 8 years. Between 40 and 50% end in divorce during that time, and just 70% last more than 10 years. The leading cause of divorce -- infidelity (28%) followed by money issues (22%).
I cross checked several different legal, credit and statistic gather sources and there were some minor variances, but this is where they fall within the standard deviation.
- i think that a lasting marriage has more to do with two people trying their hardest to make it work rather than two soul mates who are a "perfect fit" for each other in every way possible. Because reality is, there is no such thing as a perfect soulmate.1|10|0
- Changing marriage laws to be equally protective for men and removing things like alimony and no fault divorce. Removing pre marriage assets from the table in the event of divorce.
If divorce had as heavy a penalty for women as it did men, then fewer marriages would take place and of the ones that do they would be taken more seriously.
Marriages largely benefit women more and divorce largely hurt men more on average. Change that and suddenly you'd see marriage treated with more sanctity by those who are in it.0|20|0 - People still get married but the problem is that they give up too easily. They also don't look for people with same values as them and instead judge based off more external features and materialistic things. They look at looks which is fine but then social status, job compensation, etc.1|00|0
- I think society is really pushing towards a feminist anti-patriarchy independent ideology, so marriage is all of a sudden misogynistic and outdated. I identify as a feminist and call me old fashioned but I would want to be married one day and have a man ask for my hand and meet my father. It’s called respect. It’s called family. It’s called love.1|10|0
- The problem is around language and laws, not the act.
Marriage has become such a diluted term, and legal minefield to boot, that most relevant people need a lawyer to get into one, and out of one.
Hence why your ordinary Joe doesn't bother with it.0|00|0 - Frankly, I think they'd first have to start believing in sanctity again. This isn't just a religious thing; I'm not even sure if religion would affect the chances positively. There are things which are set aside as being of a higher importance than others, and not for immediate reasons of biological survival. You would THINK that something being arbitrarily decided upon by a person rather than a god would make it MORE palatable, at least to that person, but reality doesn't bear that out.0|00|0
- there are many fixes needed:
- gender movements must be banned.
- In general ending sexualization in the culture like using half-naked women in advertisements.
- teach women not to lower their standards for men for example butt or boobs? that's what women care about these days then they wonder why no man is serious to them stop trying to attract men by ur body.
that's how we live in the east men must marry the girl they love to get her.1|00|0 - Maybe it the divorce rate declined. It just seems like people don't take it seriously anymore. When the going gets rough they go right out and get divorced. I attended a friend's wedding and somebody asked him about something weird about his wife and he casually answered that maybe he would not stay married to her. They were divorced in less than a year.0|00|0
- Remove Alimony
Force equal custody only
Anything bought by 1 party that party keeps
If the item in question was a gift from one party to the other the other keeps
If equal payment was made use a game of chance to see who keeps it.
All money made by each party is kept as their own.
Give married couples with kids no tax penalties but bonuses.
Make unemployment something only people over 55 or married can claim (then people would be rushing to get married lol)
Reduce retirement age to 60 for married couples.0|10|0Right, so a woman who stays at home with children while the man works gets nothing, and just has to suffer with an abuse husband? That's why there is alimony and joint property.
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Sounds fair to me. The guys paying for your food your home your internet your activities and the kids as well. You basically have a free pass as a house wife or house husband, so of course they deserve nothing because they did nothing but take. Don't start with the being a parent is unpaid labor bs. You wanted kids and obviously the father is also being a parent and a worker 24/7 while the one that stays home has free time everyday the kids are at school. And about the kids there's still child support.
Definition. Abuse is the improper usage or treatment of a thing, often to unfairly or improperly gain benefit. Abuse can come in many forms, such as: physical or verbal maltreatment, injury, assault, violation, rape, unjust practices, crimes, or other types of aggression. By definition alimony is abuse. And don't give me that abuse shit nonsense. By definition a wife who doesn't what to sleep with her husband or uses it only as a reward could be treated as neglect and abuse. Both sides are easily capable of abuse its not a thing only associated with women.
Did you say maintaining? Beyond cleaning men are the ones who maintain a home. Women do not fix things and the two hardest jobs of cleaning dishes and clothes are done by machine. Most Women do not cut the grass or maintain yards. They use the vacuum broom and a swiffer mop occasionally. Taking care of children? Have you seen modern parenting? https://youtu.be/_sY1jskkNWA
- We live in a different time where expectations are different. The advance of technology makes it easy for people look for and fall into temptation. That's not to say that people in the past didn't cheat and etc. Include increasing stressers to out on ones relationship such as work, environment and mental illness, it puts stress oneself and his/her partner.1|00|0
- I don't think it's an issue of that, it's that people don't do the "work". And/or don't fully understand what's required in just a relationship period, never mind marriage.1|10|0
- Anonymous19 dThe whole culture of it would have to change.
The legal punishment would have to be dropped, as would financial penalities for failure.
Culturally, young girls would have to be taught a more realistic and practical version of what love and marriage are like - no more Disney Princess shite.
The statistics show that women are the instigators of the vast majority of divorce cases - and their reasons are typically given as "they are unhappy". They need their expectations lowered - significantly.0|10|0 - 1. Marriage takes commitment. Commitment takes maturity.
2. Successful marriages also require love, trust and respect, patience and forgiveness, and shared values.3|10|0 - @Brainsbeforebeauty Why should a guy want to marry, legally? Seriously? What is the benefit, to him? I'm not asking this, as some player, or d-bag that just uses women!
Seriously, though, what is the BENEFIT, for a man, marrying a woman?0|01|0I'd say my husband could tell you that but sadly he can't. But even though he's fine he had someone there for him the 13 years he was sick to live him and care for him when he could no longer care for himself. That's just one benefit🤷🏼♀️
@Brainsbeforebeauty I answered your question, but knowing your story, I wasn't speaking to you, or about you, and your love. Please do not take offense, as none was intended.
I was speaking only, from my experience, and how could I say anything about anyone, but myself.
Please, do not "read in" something that was never said or intended!
- I'm going with a new generation, possibly even a 3rd or 4th generation since so much damage has been done to the current generation. I'll only speak for myself, there isn't even a remote possibility that I'd ever consider getting married, or dating either. And even if I were to, there would be absolutely no one that I'd be attracted to the would reciprocate the attraction. That and you don't start things off such as family at my age anyway. So what's the point in it now.0|00|0
- Anonymous18 dI do because I believe God. A good relationship with Jesus shows in one's marriage. Relationships are a reflection of your spiritual relationship with God. When I marry it is for life and will be to a woman who holds that conviction, thankfully I know a few.1|20|1
- I don't know if it should, women are being beaten by their husbands (and occasionally the reverse too) and not running away for the sake of traditional marriage. Likewise men and occasionally women are placed in the condition of modern serfdom referred to as alimony. Maybe we don't need marriage, if a man and a woman has a child, they can live in separate houses and trade custody, thus relieving each other from the burden of parenthood some of the time.0|00|0
Anonymous18 dI’ll be honest, I’m pretty surprised by how many man here believe that if women just stayed in the kitchen, everyone would be so much happier.
No guys, keeping women in the kitchen will only keep YOU happy. Women? Not so much. But then, their happiness never really counted for anything anyway.
Oh, how some long for the days when women were little more than property to be used for their own needs and pleasures.1|00|0- Anonymous19 dI don't think there's any way backwards. Traditional marriages were often not as perfect as we'd like though some were. They were a partnership to share work a household and children, and family assets.
Traditional people wouldn't have gotten divorced over say... someone having an affair or no longer living together or anything like that. I doubt we will return to that view of marriage.
To be honest a much wider embrace of open marriages would be closer to tradition.0|00|0 - Simple, make it taboo, make marriages socially unacceptable and a thing of ancient past.
. An outdated custom.
Promote having children outside married.
Once something becomes taboo, it will be more attractive1|10|0 - The rate of divorce to go down and less media about break ups. People always fear the worse.1|10|0
- Communication of expectations and boundaries early on in dating. Honesty, even if it's gonna hurt feelings... the delivery is always important.1|00|0
- It will take a radical overhaul of the laws relating to marriage and divorce. This will take 30+ years IMHO. Historians will look back to this era as an era of insanity.1|20|0
For once we might actually agree... Aww shit did hell just freeze over🥶😈 lololol
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- it would need people t marry for normal reasons, throw ut the gay marriage , trans marriage , and don knotts marriage . its not some joke like every body trashes. its something sacred that gay, trans, and every other community has tarnished.0|00|0
- Are you speaking of the sanctity of Christian marriage? Or just marriage in general. Because they're many successful marriages everywhere in the world that aren't tied to Christian values.☯️2|00|0
But this younger generation is growing up not to believe in marriage at all christian or otherwise
- I believe in the sanctity of marriage, and so do many of my friends.1|10|0
- Teach women that they need to be physically available to their husband, within reason of course if they want him to go to work every day then come home and do shit he really doesn't want to do every single day so that she can have her pretty house, luxury car and trendy clothes for her and the kids.
feminism and leftist values would have to be forgotten or shunned.
Women would have to start acting like they did 30 years ago or longer
No more alimony, I agree with the child support0|01|2
I don't think the magic of marriage has disappeared compared to the old days, because there are two things to take into account
1) People in the past swore fidelity for much less time than today because in the past the life expectancy was shorter
2) People of old prefer to stay married even if they were unhappy because of society's view of divorce.0|10|0- The reason why it's not so popular anymore is because you don't need to get married to have a life. Having kids outside of wedlock isn't as frowned upon, you can own a home without being married, get a loan for anything. A lot of people use to get married because it helped with finances. Or it was just a traditional thing to do. 🤷🏻♀️0|10|0
- With homo's and trannies getting married, too:
I see no point any more, other than tax benefits.
But also: if two 'normal' people get married, and both cherish 'traditional' values... then it's as good as in any time of the past. But it's more between THEM only, while outside contemporary insanity progresses.0|21|0 - Maybe for homophobic "conservatives" and hate-filled Evangelicals to quit bashing the institution of marriage because its not limited to people they approve of?0|00|0
- Hard one, i think the ship has already set sail haha. The internet, social media, progressiveness and dating apps have destroyed the notion of marriage.1|00|0
- The impression that marriages are more stable, or relationships in general1|00|0
- Accountability and honesty. That's what it takes. Sad to say that it's in desperately short supply.2|00|1
- Less idiotic people living on earth, for instance.
Not having to keep your back to a wall at all moments would very much bring back the necessity of joining in such a heavy contract again.1|00|0 - I don’t know that people have stopped believing in it to be honest most little girls I know of still grow up dreaming of a white wedding etc1|00|0
That's the wedding.. That could be part of the problem.. Prior browning up thinking it's a fairytale and focusing on a magical fairytale wedding and not what a real marriage entails
Yeah probably a lot is probably to do with divorce being easy to get and no longer frowned upon and less religious views certainly in a lot of the west
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Also, I think it's sad that you have to be religious to believe in marriage. (Even though I am.). But you're right, karaspara.
- Nothing.
In the west it is lost.
The western society is kind of past the point of no return.
It can't be saved.1|10|1 - You feel people have stopped believing? My self it’s not that I don’t believe in it. For me it’s the wedding event I think that has blown up to a stupid idea and huge waste of money.1|10|0
Oh I agree.. People put more thought effort time and too much money on the wedding they should be for the marriage
Totally agree. Truth. Example. 6 friend of my are/were married. 2 are still married.
- If the tax and healthcare incentives were applied to everyone so people didn't get married for that specific reason.0|00|0
- Maturing a bit. Getting some faith/growing in faith.1|00|0
- I think more people need to eliminate toxic people from their lives
also, they need to eliminate the negative thinking, negative things
they do in life , there is ways but people got to work on it1|00|0 - Experience it at first hand Or see others experience it?1|10|0
Why I wish people would take example more from the successful marriages instead of butter divorced people
- left wing values would need to be destroyed. you can't have anything being sacred when the left is going "all morality is subjective, and our culture is bad!" (notice those 2 inherently incompatible beliefs)0|00|0
- The biblical approach to marriage works beautifully. If more people started to develop faith, the divorce rate would significantly decrease.1|20|0
@MzAsh Personal experience. What I’ve seen in my life. My girl studies psychology and works a clinical therapist. What’s written in the Bible in regards to relationships is a system that works from a structure of selflessness and a key issue within modern relationships is selfishness. The dynamic of head of house and submissiveness intertwines with our biology. Have you ever read the Bible?
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@MzAsh Marriage can be incredibly challenging at times, and having a set template on how to approach certain issues in an effective way
might benefit yours. Even you being an atheist could benefit by reading the Bible without even believing in a higher power. That’s what got me started and it just turned into something else. It’s portrays a great set of values. Modern culture and the modern approach to marriage doesn’t work well considering the stats. Like I said before, it comes from a place of selfishness and a constant mindset of what’s in it for me. It’s also very easy to be influenced by culture. The Bible keeps me grounded personally. From what I’ve read, you hold contempt for Christians. We’re not all the same and there are a lot of Christians who don’t follow the Bible and instead judge and come across as snobbish. Those people are not living the way the Bible says. If you’re ever struggling maybe just give a shot to read it. 🤷🏻♂️Or maybe I got you pegged for someone else. Might be confusing your username with another person. I don’t know forsure if you hold contempt towards Christians
It’s not that I disbelieve in a higher power. For me, a lot of it is the political and social ideals popularly held by Christianity that just doesn’t work for me. I've felt as if it tries to put women in a tiny box and I just don’t fit into it.
I think there’s times to be selfless and times to know when you must put your needs first. I’ve had to learn that the hard way. There are a lot of people out there that will take advantage of people so selfless who don’t know when to value themselves or stick to boundaries they’ve created. Just a perspective from a former people pleaser.@MzAsh Yeah I can agree to that. There’s a big political divide within the Christian community right now. I’d just say the entire country lol. All I’d say about taking advantage of is trust. If it’s reciprocated from both ends, it makes it easier. I know there’s a lot of asshole men that would take a woman’s submissiveness and kindness for granted. My sister is a people pleaser as well and has people take that for granted. I’m sure you have more experience than me though. I just know my relationship has been so much better since we’ve made this transition.
- I think the easier to find a good partner the better.
It has a lot to do with pornstar work.
If there is more people marrying and less people watching it then the more people will focus on marriage0|00|0 - A cultural reset of attitudes. We all have to let go of our greed and selfishness.1|00|0
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