What are your thoughts on having a deceased man's baby (post mortem sperm retrieval)?

The first time I ever thought of this was when researching stuff on test tube babies and I found out about the ethical question of using the sperm of a donor who's deceased. Recently I came across a video on post mortem sperm retrieval where a dead man's sperm is retrieved, ideally within 24 hours of death.

What are your thoughts on this? Is it fair for the man? Is it fair for the child? Is it okay for mankind? How important is the man's consent and his family's consent?

  • It is totally fine if his family/wife wants it. It is understandable why one would want to do it.
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  • It is fine only if the man has given consent to it when he was alive, kind of like organ donors. He has the right to decide it for himself without anyone else's interference.
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  • It is never okay. Whoever is gone is gone and it is not at all ethical to try to keep a part of him alive in this method. It is not fair for the child either.
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Question: What if the man has given official consent BUT his wife/girlfriend doesn't like the idea of it herself? Like she isn't willing to get pregnant that way or have a baby that way at all.
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I personally don't agree with this. The thought of reproducing from a person who is no more living is so wrong, doesn't matter if the sperm was collected before or after death. Whoever is gone, is gone. My religion forbids this but besides that I can see why it is that way. Reproducing from dead people is not a good idea.

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  • 1. Fairness to the deceased is a difficult subject to comprehend because, obviously, the deceased is not here to suffer the consequences of these actions. However, that is a logical response and this is a topic which is more emotional. I would want some say in whether this happened to me after my death.

    2. Of course, if I had decided that I was okay with doing this after my death, why wouldn't I have simplified the process and simply made a deposit at a sperm bank while i was still alive? That would remove all of the moral/ethical issues raised by your question.

    3. What an absolutely horrible thing to do to a baby!

    4. Why is it so necessary to do this when there are so many living sperm donors available?

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    • 6d

      No legitimate physician or facility will artificially inseminate a woman against her will.

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      I can see a rich woman who loses a son gets his sperm harvested, then pays a surrogate to be inseminated, have the baby, and let the dead guy's non adopt the baby. It would probably be a very rare event but I think it shouldn't happen unless the decedent had consented.

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      Well extracting sperm isn't costly but its storage and keeping them alive is costly.

      And yeah this is why there are ethical issues surrounding the topic.

  • @CubsterShura your religion does not forbid this if it’s your own husband. Islam permits assisted reproduction as long as the original owners of the sperm and the egg are married.

    I think it’s unethical because you remove willingly the possibility for the child to know and meet his biological father. If you use the sperm of a living man that you can trace back once the child is old enough you’re way more human toward your child.

    Psychological I also think it’s an unhealthy way of keeping your dead partner alive through this child. I don’t know, ethically it seems wrong. If you’re having a natural baby with your husband and he has a heart attack a split second after he came inside you it’s destiny, using a medical procedure to extract life sperm from a dead man seems to me too much.

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      You are right, assisted reproduction is allowed only if the ones giving sperm and eggs are husband and wife, but it is also necessary that they are alive.

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      @CubsterShura I was not aware of the 2nd limitation, thanks for clarifying that.

  • Come again?
    I think baby has right to know parents, both. don't think it right although technically possible.
    Then again if I knew my dad ws Alexander the Great, I might think it was really cool... as long as I had a real dad involved.

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  • I've been telling this to people for years. It's not necrophilia I'm a post mortem sperm retrieval specialist. Noone every listens.

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    • 6d

      As per the video there aren't many proper reports or statistics on how many children are born that way. How much information do you have about this?

  • I don't see an ethical dilemma or much reason to be very concerned. This isn't necrophilia.

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    • 7d

      What about the child's security?

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    • 6d

      Well the difference is that this is intentional - purposely putting the child into a fatherless household, instead of it happening outside your control.

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      Who cares? What matters is the life of the child, not his parentage. That fact will make little difference unless you make it a big deal first. Love the child for what they bring into the world.

  • My sperm, dead or alive, I get to decide what I do with it.

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    • 6d

      Regarding update 1: That would be rape, rape is bad.
      Regarding update 2: Logic doesn't apply to religion, try to think for yourself. Sperm is sperm, it really doesn't matter.

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    • 6d

      Plus strict logic doesn't apply to everything, especially because post mortem sperm retrieval is something done out of emotion anyway.

    • 5d

      If someone has awesome genes, I can see why humanity would try to harvest it. And indeed, reproduction is just that, continuing the human race, so it really doesn't matter. At least to me 😊

  • this is fucked the hell up. i mean there are enough live sperm donors. no need to dishonor a dead person like that. if there's some form of consent, i don't see a problem but otherwise it is not ethical in my opinion.

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  • I'd have to go with it's never okay at all. But do whatever, live with the consequences. I hope those sperm cells are completely infertile if there was never any consent from the guy at all.

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    • 6d

      Not all such retrievals are non consensual, some have agreements/consent in place beforehand.

  • Well, at least he doesn't have to pay for child support and endure a screaming baby.

    But for the child there will be serious consequences.

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    • 6d

      Remember, one more birth is equal to ultimately one more death eventually some day.

    • 6d

      @JudgmentDay and overpopulation and unemployment and increased pollution and increased waste production and one more mouth to feed and one more person to shelter and one more body to fix in hospitals...

  • Its fine if the man has put it in his last will that he wants this. If not, this is a violation of the man's integrity.

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  • It is fine only if the man has given consent to it when he was alive, kind of like organ donors. He has the right to decide it for himself without anyone else's interference.

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  • I bet that kid would grow up to be a singer in a metal band called "Death Born"

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  • I think that it is rather in poor taste unless the deceased gave prior permission.

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  • On one hand, if it is the man's wife and he left no instructions to the contrary then she owns his nuts BUT, necrophilia is wrong, so no go.

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  • I’d definitely do it. If my boyfriend died right now I would do it. We already talked about it.

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  • As long as the 'father' gives consent before he passes, I see nothing wrong with it.

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  • Whoever is gone is gone and it is not at all ethical to try to keep a part of him alive in this method. It is not fair for the child either.

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  • That... actually sounds really weird.

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      Yeah I agree. No matter how much someone tries to justify it emotionally, it's reproducing from a dead person and it's so wrong.

  • It's fine if he's tall. (inside joke) @mezzymezzmez 😂

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  • Okay, that is DISGUSTING!

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    • 6d

      I don't know about the disgusting part, but reproducing from a dead person sounds very wrong.

  • It is okay if his wife want it and he wants kid's

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  • I'm inmortal.

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  • I don't know, that sounds quite unappealing to me

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  • Creepy as hell. I chose option 3.

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  • I will have nightmares about that

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  • If that is real, that creeps me out so much

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  • I feel it’s ok if the man has given consent then I don’t see why not.

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