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In my state, the laws says the person has to pose a threat to an individual’s safety or the safety of another. I have had firearm training and hold a concealed weapon permit. I have never held a gun on anyone and pray that I never have to do so. That being said, it’s better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Police can’t always get there fast enough.
I guess you are from Europe which I understand has very tough gun laws. In the US it depends on what state you live in but if you point a gun at some one in most states your life better be in danger because if not it is considered brandishing a weapon. This usually carries tough prison sentences in most American states.
Well by pointing a gun do you mean just randomly pointing a gun at people, shooting others for bad a reason, or defending yourself? That can mean a lot of things
pointing a gun when not needed
Then I don't know why someone would point at anyone unless it was to defend yourself or others
Because there are some situation that warrant brandishing a weapon? Say if someone breaks into your home, attempts to mug/rob/jump you, or some other dangerous scenario.
Depends on the situation. If you're getting robbed or assaulted, it's perfectly fine (and encouraged) to point a gun at them.
i think it is because they have their own problem and unable to fix it by themselves , then they are attacking random stranger of internet to make them feel better
when you have seen someone with that mentality would it be fair to say they were american? guns are in their blood so they think its fine... we get alarmed because its so far away from the european view
hey blue anon... if you are going to downvote a basic observation perhaps you could tell me why?
because in their mind there's a clear dichotomy between good and evil. they define themselfs as "good" and someone else as "evil" and by that they can easily justify pointing their gun. it's of course stupid but well... people are stupid.
Fundamentally our entire law rests on justifying pointing guns at someone when they break the law.
actually we have fines and imprisonment as fundamental means for our entire law system. guns are only for the worst cases.
i take it you are no longer in japan as it says under your user name. gun ownership in japan is almost totally prohibited
@wankiam Still in Japan but I am very influenced by US culture. Some of my best friends from the US are from Texas with a basement full of guns. :-D>> actually we have fines and imprisonment as fundamental means for our entire law system.Yes, but if the person resists arrest, then we are back to the pointing guns.
you must be mad lol but thanks for clearing that up because it didn't make sense
the law justifies the pointing of guns, not the pointing of guns justifies laws xD
@wankiam Cheers. Well, my thoughts on this are that there are ~1.5 million gang members in the US. Their primary sources of income are drug trafficking, gun trafficking, and prostitution (in that order). I look at my friends from the US and they are not part of this violence. Of course, some side of me fears guns and their destructive power. Whatever training I did in the gym would not help against this.But there are more deaths from many others things (drunk drivings, stabbings, etc), than firearm homicides. And apparently there are over 300 million guns in circulation in the US. This is not like Australia or Japan. It is not an island. Prohibition failed in the most epic way in the US. The war on drugs, I'd say, also failed.So I see the only practical option is to trust people, and educate them, and persuade them. I don't see it possible to defeat the black market here, anymore than I do narcotics.
fair enough but i personally can't see how the American model could be adopted by anyone who wouldn't also accept the school shooting as an almost daily event. i dont have answers to crime but i know what doesn't work here in the uk
@wankiam And that might seem utopian but we're talking about a country that tried to ban alcohol and just got overwhelmed by crime and gang activity. They tried to declare a war on drugs and created the largest rates of incarceration in the entire world.Japan wouldn't necessarily skyrocket crime rates if gun control was relaxed here. Japanese citizens cooperate with the police. They help in investigations and arrests. That comes from *values*. And values are what I believe in.When Japanese don't have values, they drive over people and kill them left and right. They cut off their mother's head and bring it to a Starbucks. They lob imported and hang-made bombs into a night club and kill everyone inside.
so why do you like the American model so much then when its clearly something that wouldn't work in your country thats the bit im not understanding.
@wankiam Cheers. I don't know what to do either TBH. I like to emphasize values. I even have the extreme views that schools should teach these things and take over what parents failed to do if the parents failed, understandably, when some of them are working two jobs and trying to raise a child on their own.A gun is a most dangerous weapon, I understand, and makes killing easy. Even suicide. Just point and pull a trigger. There are few comparisons of tools used for killing that can match this ease.But I still think the net effect of trying to prohibit guns could create a worse underground market in a place like the US. Regulation only affects law-abiding citizens. And I don't think the law is necessarily the way to make people behave.
totally agree on that... its an American problem to which there is no simple answer... ofcourse banning guns will push ownership underground as you suggest and as i said in my original statement to the asker... gun ownership is in their blood.
@wankiam TBH I am not entirely against this side. I find the basic idea of defending against tyrannical governments at least a bit impractical. Guns are very dangerous things. I understand this, and there's likely a lot of stupidity that could have been prevented the absence of their presence.But I am not sure about the alternatives. Nail bombs are much more gruesome than guns. Would there be less of these things with stricter laws? I don't know.What I do know is that many people violate laws in the US. I have befriended even gangsters and drug dealers over there (I'm kind of a weird person and was addicted to trouble in my youth).And I have my bias. I have my friends in Texas with an arsenal full of guns, and love for their family, and they are obviously not a threat to society in my eyes. But they would be the first to turn their guns over if more laws were enacted. I have a great fondness for them, and almost certainly I am biased there.But they are not the ones we should be most worried about. They are on the bottom of the priority list. And when it comes to the top of the priority list, we are not talking about law-abiding people, and most laws would not make a dent in their activity.
I agree people shouldn't justify pointing a gun at one is sanecause it's not.
whats bad about pointing a gun on a buglar whos about to rob your stuff?
“European”Chick1 Yup, explains the question.
If you are being threatened
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