Have An Opinion?
The short answer is "no". The long answer is "it depends".Before we can say, with any degree of certainty, whether or not someone is "alpha" or "beta", we first need to establish two things: A) what do these terms mean and B) what are the circumstances?Someone who is "alpha" is said to be confident, charismatic and charming, while someone who is "beta" is said to be passive, submissive and non-confrontation. Now, the mere fact that these two terms are separate, as opposed to being parts of a larger whole, as in "someone who has alpha qualities", would lead a lot of people to conclude--erroneously--that alpha is not just a state of mind, but a state of being. You're either alpha all of the time or you're not. This, of course, categorically false. The idea of being "alpha" is that you always "in your element", that you are comfortable in every situation regardless of the context. Some people are better at exhibiting this trait than others, but there is always going to be at least that one situation where a self-observed alpha is completely lost and appears to be display beta qualities. Now, they can always "fake it 'til they make it" but this will occasionally backfire. For example, if you're alpha in the political arena and invited to a panel on computer science (a field you know absolutely nothing about), you could definitely try to fudge your way through it and it to the people who are not nearly as informed, you might even come across as knowledgeable and wise. However, to people who on the up-and-up, literal experts on the topic who understand the minutiae, you will blatantly stand out as a poser and their attempts to criticize you will be effective.As such, no one is "born " alpha, because that would imply that you are innately attuned to the people around you with absolutely no prior interaction. Maybe some people in the world were born with this ability "out of the box" and they comprehend crowds like they breathe air, but this is going to be such a minuscule percentage of the population that their trait would classified as "extraordinary". Alpha is something you learn, not something you are born with. That being said, in order to be alpha, you have to possess the capacity to have said capacity to read people and ease into social situations relatively effortlessly, and some members of the human community (predominantly autistic individuals) were simply born with weaker or outright non-existent versions of these traits. Can they still exhibit characteristics of an alpha, i. e. charisma and confidence? Of course, but the integration of this behavior with the rest of the persona will be lessened.
Thé alpha and beta thing is truly stupid. You can be a beta with your boss and an alpha with your girlfriend, just like I know men who act like alpha in their love lifes and work places but become submissive betas with their families. It’s not so different from astrology.Most guys who believe in the alpha beta thing are usually incels who have the beta characteristics in most area of their lifes, and then daydream about becoming alphas by refusing to reply to a girls text and weighting some weights Those guys that so many men describe as alphas are too busy working on themselves, and increasing their business to worry about this shit, and they are probably the beta of someone, wether it’s their mother, father, brother, sister, girlfriend or children
*lifting some weights
People are born with different personalities and abilities. That doesn’t necessarily make them more “alpha or beta”. I think you are looking at this exclusively via which guys are good with girls and who aren’t. There are certain personalities that women find more attractive than others. But the shy introvert might be a genius and hardworking at something else. The bad boy so called “alpha” male might become a criminal later in life and sentenced to prison. Even if he doesn’t get in trouble he might be too stupid for a decent career. He might of had his fun at times but overall is his life is going suck more vs a the so called “beta” who worked hard in school, got educated, got a good job and good living later in life. At some point the roles can reverse. We really need to start getting away from the Alpha vs beta labels. We aren’t wolves and even the wolf study was FLAWED (look it up). I think it’s depressing and confusing too many people. Its also giving bully’s more confidence to be shitheads (because they think their alphas). Humans are much more complicated.
Everyone is more predisposed towards one or the other at birth, but all alphas/betas are ultimately created over time. An alpha is simply a leader of men. The more Leadership traits you fully embody the more alpha you become. Leadership traits like that often must be instilled into you through the right opportunity and you having the right response in the moment. It's moments like that you slowly decide subconsciously the type of man you're going to be.You're not stuck in either one for life, but making a choice might be difficult depending on your current standing. I imagine someone who was a true leader for years and years would find it harder to not lead than to simply be who they are and lead. Because Leadership traits are personality traits. You form that over time. So I don't see why you would consciously attempt to drop positive traits.Imagine someone not having an issue with Procrastination who constantly takes initiative and consciously deciding to no longer take initiative and practice not doing what they know should be done. That wouldn't benefit anyone and would likely lead to them feeling shitty. So while they could do that, they just wouldn't.
Labeling is the curse of the current generation. We are born with certain core personalities but people can change over the course of their lives. Some people might start out more aggressive but realize that isn't conducive to having a happy life so they have to figure out some way to curb it like sports, working out or meditation. Or they use that energy to start a business.Then there are more passive people who realize while being kind and patient is a good thing. But they realize people will take advantage of them so they set boundaries and gain a bit of crusty shell and assertiveness or bravado to survive in the world.We keep our core personalities right from birth then our environments shape us a bit either for the better or worse or somewhere in between.
If you have a disability like I do could you be alpha? Is living life despite your limits alpha?
I don't like the definition of alpha and beta. For me what is more interesting is a man who has both. Yes you can be a confident man with a disability. It might take more work if it doesn't come naturally. I've battled anxiety and depression on and off my whole life so it takes more for me to be confident and I was introverted until I was in my mid 30s. Talk to a good therapist and come up with some life goals and what you'd like to change or strengthen about yourself. Having a disability does make life more challenging just like dealing with depression that people really don't comprehend. Instead of focusing on alpha male focus on what you think would make you a strong man and a good partner for someone else. I mean even if you are
only looking for hook ups or casual relationships how you treat your partners even for an instant molds who you are and leaves the people you are with in a good place.
I think to a degree, if these things really do exist more than just in a made up construct, that you are not born into it every time. There are plenty of “alpha” celebs who weren’t born super rich, weren’t born in a celebrity culture, parents weren’t super wealthy or well connected, and they get there. I think it’s easier if you ARE born into it... but you don’t have to be; though you probably will stay very similar to how you were raised if there’s no huge catalyst to create that change. If you were born being constantly told you are worthless or not good enough (etc), and just about everyone told you that until your 20’s, it’s going to be hard to fight that unless (maybe) enough people start providing you with ways to be confident or “alpha.” Enough people give you genuine compliments, you move away from toxic people, you’re earning good money at something you’re good at, you’re winning awards, usually looking really good...
There is no such thing as these categories, except unless if you give these categories any sort of validity.I don't see anybody as Alpha or Beta or Omega or whatever. All I see are nice and respectful people, or douche bags.Dont be a douche bag.
No wayYou can be anything you want to be if you're dedicated enoughAnd there are plenty of resources online to help you with thatIt does come easier to some than others thoughIf you want to be a Beta you kind of have to be in a position for such to begin withAs for the Alphas, anyone can be that with practice and discipline
You can have the advance that gives you good DNA you were born with, but without social training and the will to self-improvement you will fail when you try to dominates others.By the way those so called "Alphas" without a pack alias social isolated men who try to put other guys into alpha.. beta.. omega.. drawers, don't understand that we are social beings. It's the affirmation of others that makes you to a leader, not your imaginary self-perception that says you're the "Alpha"
NOT REALLY, some men are born the right family that taught them to be an Alpha, but if you look at some celebrity Alphas and look at their early life you'll see that they we're always an Alpha.Bas Rutten has extreme asthma, bad skin, was very skinny and nerdy as a child and was bullied and never left the house. Now he's one of the most legendary fighters in history.Justin Wren was harshly bullied throughout his childhood. He's 13-2 in his Pro MMA career. David Goggins grew up with an abusive father, was bullied and was obese as a child. Now he's know for being the hardest man on earthStrong men aren't born, they're made.
I’ve met Justin wren personally. He’s a very good guy. Got a heart of gold with all the international volunteering he does and there is nothing “beta” about that.
The term comes from wolves and the guy who coined the term himself retracted his previous study as he found wolves aren't beta or alphas, but perform parental roles and nurturing roles in their pack.Basically, it's bullshit and there is no such a thing. Only people with varying degrees of confidence.
Well it's easier to be alpha if you were born good looking cause everyone looks up to you and approves of your decisions. So you become naturally confident as you can do no wrong and are treated well by others. But with enough hard work and persistence you can develop alpha traits.
I was born with ugly eyes
I think we are all born as a blank slate. I was raised as a fuckin giant Beta with a pussy as a ballsack. Now I am a charming, gentlemanly, alpha. Im not the cocky asshole type. I am more nerdy, witty, cute type of sexy. I am a noble knight not afraid to speak unpopular opinions because I dont care what people think of me. I can be blunt but in a charming way when confronted with the object of desire.
There's some sciency stuff that suggests social status can be encoded in the genes and passed down generationally. So in that sense, a long lineage of "alpha" males are more likely to pass on genes that express "alpha" behaviours over time. But I don't think the science is solid enough yet to say definitely that "alpha men impregnate women with future alpha male offspring". It's an emerging field of study from what little I understand of it.
Some guys are just more aggressive. But if so called “alphas” are the only ones who women wanted to procreate with than all the betas when have been bred out thousands of years ago. It’s more complicated than two labels.
No, it's all about relative social standing, particularly during formative years. This is why you might see a big ripped guy sit and cry after someone treats him bad, bad upbringing, doesn't mentally feel dominant.On the flip side people who suddenly gain wealth or power might find newfound confidence.People aren't dog's, there is nuance and the hierarchy is always shifting.
That alpha beta thing is b. s. I mean you can see a man being very aggressive and assertive which is important. But I think you'd see that in every person if he/she is doing something they love then hell yeah, they would act aggressive and assertive. It's the drive. It's how bad do you want it.
The whole alpha and beta thing is a bunch of garbage. Just be who you are. Life WILL change you, make you into a stronger person or break you like broken glass. But don’t worry, even broken glass can be fixed. you will just never be the same person as you are right now.
No, people are "growing to be" alpha or beta. I have a friend whose words hold the highest hierarchy at home and another different friend whose parents are very nitpicking, but she doesn't mind at all.
I don't know if alphas or betas are real - I've met people who are a mixture of both and I think a true alpha would not want to be an alpha - I used to know a very good looking and smart guy who made himself ugly on purpose cause he was sick and tired of girls doing crazy things to get his attention. He would avoid contact with me and then after making himself ugly he began to talk to me again. I'd imagine 98% - 99% of females who were single would have gone out with him.
No, scientifically that is not a social hierarchy of our species but these terms are certainly used to differentiate between confident, ambitious men and more timid and unambitious ones. There is obviously some genetical predisposition for a person to lean one way or another but none of it is set in stone.
Do you disagree though that social domination is a thing?
I wasn’t aware that genetics influenced personality widely
@DWD1994 Yes, just the terms "alpha and beta male" are used incorrectly (at least in terms of science) when describing that.
@AJC997 Genetics influence a lot of things.
Yes as in you disagree that social domination is a thing? When many people talk about alpha vs beta, they are usually talking about men that are dominant and leaders vs men that are passive and often feminine.
Yes as in social domination is definitely a thing but using those exact terms to describe that relationship is scientifically incorrect.
Men are made, not born. Everyone starts out as a beta male. It takes hard work and dedication to become alpha, a strong sense of duty and responsibility, moral code and all that good stuff. Of course, some people do just have shit genetics and look like numale effeminate sissies. They have the mentality of women due to being raised by a single mother, or not having a strong male role model growing up. But I find it hard to believe those aren't changeable to some degree.
Nobody starts off as beta male. Do you think the kid who knew everything in class was a beta? This beta and alpha male thing is such bs. It doesn't exist. The man who coined this term said it himself that alpha and beta males don't exist. But people romanticized on this idea so much that they believed that it's the truth
I definitely don't think so I would term it leadership and I definitely don't want to lead in anything and everything just things about God I'm doing the next right thing there's a lot of things I wouldn't get involved in because I don't think I'd get anywhere with God
I personally have tried to believe it but I just can't believe in only 2. There's just too much diversity to class every man in the world into only 2 categories, BUT if you do believe it I'm told an alpha can become a beta and a beta and alpha, which also doesn't make much sense to me
No, people are born in families that race them to be betas or alphas. Like for example my dad really tries to build me up in confidence and interacting with people. While my mom really beats me down with mean comments and telling me I’ll never mount to anything.
Nope. I was beta most of childhood, started learning from alphas as I got older to not care what anyone else thinks, not rude/disrespectful, but consider if the situation were reversed, would I accept my treatment from someone else, so long as I can say yes, it's not about their reaction, acceptance, or approval... alpha can be learned.
It depends. Some people are born that way while, others work their way up. I was born an Omega, and I still am.
Yes because there are cucks those are betas People who take control and don’t give a fuck are alphasI don’t like being with a girl if I’m not the only one with her sexually Also I hate Cucks
That wouldn’t make you an alpha, that would just mean you’re jealous.
@victoriaxoxo why would I be jealous lmfaooooooo no point this worlds gonna end soon anyway so all I need are me myself and I
This world is gonna end soon?
That's a question of nature vs nurture , and yes you can through great effort at least fake being either, and people don't really understand what either is
I need to be more masculine. I wanted to work with tools- metal and wood working sounds awesome but not many classes were available. Maybe I could post an ad online for someone skilled to teach me.
Those things dont make you more masculine, beta and alpha isn't really even a good description for human males since wolves operate in a family style unit, and look up adult education you can find many places to learn welding or you can self teach with a blowtorch and safety equipment
I’d have to find them. Do you think fear is weakness for men?
Nope, can't be courage without fear, and even in the absence of courage he has every right to fear things , life is terrifying
issues like this all come down to environment. And anyone who refers to them-self as alpha, isn't
there are genetic markers that prove the theory right.
No... God didn't create alpha beta humans did.Alpha or beta dosen't matter.U can decide which category u want to be in... Even when u get old.
It's an outdated idea, but if you believe in it, there's also Sigmas, Deltas, and Omegas. Believing you are just one thing restricts growth, so it's a pretty toxic mindstate to be in.
Nope! They are just born, there is No such thing as an alpha male nor beta male, not now days. You don't war and bring the alpha from your side to fight the other side's alpha and finish a battle with minimum loses in todays war.
No, depending on where i am on my period I can be anywhere from Alpha to Zeta.
Alpha beta doesn't exist. I'd anything, look to be a strong man. That's some we can ask work towards.
No. You develop a sense of crowd control either by leading being led of just saying fuvk it I'm going to play along and not care.
People actually think that alpha and beta is an actual thing? A person can be a mixture of both and one isn't necessarily better than the other. Too much of anything is bad. I wouldn't wanna date someone who is purely alpha or purely beta.
“You fail to recognize that it matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be!” - Dumbledore, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
Not really. Men are born with a natural difference in testosterone; however, humans evolved out of the alpha beta dynamic a long time ago.
No. "Alpha and Beta" is part of a kink. It's a fantasy.Eventually every man becomes what you perceive as Alpha. It's part of being a man. The "no feelings" part is definitely a kink that takes the nurture out of nature.
You can't expect good results every time you give your feelings to someone with a colorful family or drug history.
Nope. those classifications are made-up; they have no real existence
Kind of, studies have proven that it's both environmental, and genetic.
People are born male and female. Viva le difference!
Only TWO types of men personality? That sounds to me like a 'bipolar disorder' :D(perhaps, it's because many people are unaware of the other Greek letters?)I believe to see a combination of factors.A part is 'born', a part is 'learned'.
Alphas and betas is a retarded concept. Do you instead of looking for a group to define you
I suggest you read up on that concept. It's pseudoscientific bullshit and everyone should know that by now.
No, you become who you are through your choices and your environment.
yes, but things change, they don't always have to stuck for life
Nope. You can adapt to whatever life throws at you. Believe me
What about gamma, delta, epsilon, zeta, eta, theta, etc?
Some of those you made up
I didn't, they're the letters after alpha and beta
Some people will find it easier than others to display an ‘alpha’ personality but I am a strong believer that whoever you are you can grow in your confidence and make small life changes that will make you more of an ‘alpha’
Both hormones and social programming play a big part.
Yes, the harsh truth is that not everyone can be winners.
Some of us are meant to lose
Yeah man, it sucks. Its worse when others try to sugarcoat the situation by saying that its a guarantee that everyone can make it in the social game, but lies like that only further deepen the wound.
But everyone can get into a relationship. I’ve seen all types of people in love
I don’t know alpha or delta but they all are definitely assholes
Easy killer... and it's beta not delta!
Some people are born leaders/go getters. Others can learn the trait.
As an alpha the answer is yes, the fact that you're asking means you're a betacuck.
None of this matters. Alpha, Beta, omega whatever, none of this shit matters to people. They can literally apply to all of the above depending on their relationships with other people
Those are labels for animals, not people. Why would some selfish narcissistic nobodies denigrate others for helping others and actually doing something useful by labelling them as beta and labelling themselves as alpha is beyond me.
Some people like me are just born as a loser
Nobody is born a loser. Some narcissistic people like labelling others as losers, because it probably makes them feel better about themselves, but don't listen to those people. Everyone has some talents and you can be awesome if you work on your talents.
I agree. Usually the people who label themselves alpha are assholes. They really see themselves in a very different light from how others see them.
@victoriaxoxo please! These assholes who believe in the alpha beta things are most likely to be in the mgtow and other incels forums, by claiming how a man is a beta the moment when he choose to marry a woman and have kids with her 😂 I swear they truly need a life. Then they daydream and imagine themselves with a bard pitt face and a Jeff bezos bank account by claiming how they will one day become like this and dump a woman the moment when she turn 24, for another younger super model, while in real life they are 45 years loosers who never had a real experience with a woman and yet talk as if they are relationship gurus who know everything about society, women and business, behind their keyboards in their tiny stinky studios
@Dali-chan honestly these dudes usually just get a beer belly at 40 and die alone at 55. I don’t really get them either.
@victoriaxoxo 😂 aren’t they ridiculous? They have bald spots at 30, a beer belly and look 20 years older but claim how men age like wine and women like milk, and then start talking about biology to defend their bullshit 🤦♀️
@Dali-chan OMG yes!!! Literally, these be the dudes who are always talking about ‘well men are biologically wired to find youthful women and tits attractive because the stone-ages blah blah’. Like stfu you dribble, take your 5th grade biology pass and go and sit in the corner. SMH.
Nope. People are made alpha or beta. It's all about upbringing and perception.
No idea. These change depending on your group and circumstances. Dont label yourself.
Born Alpha... grew up Alpha... remain Alpha today!
You either have confidence or you don't have it.
You cannot undo this action. The opinion owner is going to be notified and earn 7 XPER points.