Or...“You and I went to the store.” versus “She went to the store with you and me.”“You and I are going to play Pokemon GO.” versus “Phil wants to play Pokemon GO with you and me.”“You and I jerk off to that porn actress.” versus “The creepy, old man across the street jerks off to you and me.”“You and I played with the dog outside.” versus “The dog ran away from you and me.”Etc etc etc
Good point. I was gonna say the same thing.If anybody is confused about whether to use "me" or "I", just take out "you and" and see which makes more sense.For example, "she went to the store with me" makes more sense than "she went to the store with I", so the sentence would be "she went to the store with you and me" not "she went to the store with you and I."
@mistixs she came to the store with you and I. Sounds better.
@ChefSwol would you say "she came to the store with I"?
@mistixs well that’s a weird way of saying something in the first place. What is your context?
I was only trying to fix your broken English.
@ChefSwol my point is that "she went to the store with I" isn't right, so neither is "she went to the store with you and I"."She went to the store with you and me" is proper grammar. It might not sound good to you, but that doesn't change proper grammar.
@mistixs I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. Carpet did a fine job of explaining it. Your reply is not necessary.
@ChefSwol If you knew who I was, then you would know how laughable it is to say I don't know what I'm talking about.
@ChefSwol do you have an actual proper argument against what I said? (I said that "she went to the store with you and me" is proper grammar, whereas "she went to the store with you and I" is not.)
@mistixs use another example.
Because “You and I went to the store with her” would be a much better way to word it. Your whole sentence just sounded wrong af
@ChefSwol Does dictionary. com not know what it's talking about? Because it's saying the same exact thing I said.I said: "If anybody is confused about whether to use "me" or "I", just take out "you and" and see which makes more sense."Here's what dictionary. com says: "If you’re ever unsure, here’s a simple trick. Omit the first person mentioned and see how it sounds. If you said, “Thanks for inviting I to dinner,” it sounds wrong. Whoops. Without two people, it is easier to use your ear to hear if I or me is grammatically correct."https://www.dictionary.com/e/youandme/So dictionary. com said the same thing I said.
@mistixs I’m saying your example sucks. Your sentence “she went to the store with you and me” just sounds stupid. So while your googled explanation of which to use, is correct. It wasn’t really needed. Carpet did fine explaining it on her own.
@ChefSwol you realize I took the example straight from Carpets comment, right?
and dictionary. com isn’t saying what you said. You’re saying what dictionary. com said.
@mistixs I think you’re confused. Stick to your weird sex questions.
@ChefSwol I think YOU'RE confused. I took the example straight from what Carpet said in her second comment.As for me saying what Dictionary. com said: I was already aware of the omission trick. Only after you confronted me saying I didn't know what I was talking about, did I look up a reputable source to back up what I was saying.But that's irrelevant to the point. The point is that I'm correct, and dictionary. com backs me up.Whether or not an example "sounds stupid" is irrelevant; what matters is if it's grammatically correct.But you're wasting my time even after I proved my point, so I'm blocking you now so you can't waste my time anymore. Goodbye
@mistixs oh no the weird sexual question asking catfish is blocking me. English is set in stone, it says on your link that shakesphere used I instead of me. Whether it’s grammatically correct or not doesn’t matter. English isn’t set in stone, but like I said. You and I sounds better. So clearly your problem is lack of understanding.
Oh boy, I missed all this. @mistixs ChefSwol is kind of the type of guy on here that you just have to get used to never taking seriously, like CT_CD or MisterSir. They troll, and sometimes they’re endearingly annoying, but other times they’re a pain in the ass, like now. @ChefSwol Smh why did you have to give her such a hard time over an example that *I* provided in the first place? Pitch a fit at me, not at her. Not all of my examples worked well, but you should still get the point.
I got the point. She was too busy trying to be annoying
She knows how I am tho. She’s a thot. Look at all those sexual questions. He’s a dude without a doubt.
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Okay. If we follow your advice given a sentence like, “Blue anons are dicks to you and I,” (where we are not the subject) and remove “you,” we would be left with “Blue anons are dicks to I.” Hopefully you can detect that when verbally spoken, this sounds incredibly wrong, and grammatically, it’s completely incorrect. People who use “you and me” aren’t always wrong, and they aren’t illiterate. In fact, it’s the people that refuse to admit that “you and me” is correct when it is the object of a sentence rather than the subject, that have failed to properly grasp this grammatical concept.
@CarpetDenim I thought the person was referring to when people say "(you and) me went to the store" as opposed to "(you and) I went to the store". Of course if someone says "It affects (you and) me", they're correct. But I thought that was a given, especially considering the asker said "or" which implies only one can be correct. So you're right in that I didn't consider all possible usages of the words. I was only talking with respect to one specific usage.
You and I isn’t always right, though.
@CarpetDenim see your example negates one thing though... i wouldn't construct that second sentance like that. i would have said,, 'you and i are not the subject of this sentance'. or ofcourse there is the option of saying, 'we'. so whilst you are technically correct, it just doesn't sound right the way you put it
Would it have made more sense if I gave the example “The objects of this sentence are you and me” instead?
@CarpetDenim there was a not in there before but again i just know how i would say something and what sounds right to me so whether or not something is technically correct it still doesn't mean i would take that option.. also its clear that my English tutor wasn't your English tutor ;)
I put more examples that more clearly make the distinguishment between “You and I” and “You and me,” if you care to look. I know there was a not before, it didn’t make sense initially (not because I was wrong, but because I wrote in passive voice), but I gave an alternate example that should sound better. You can use whatever you want, but if your teacher taught you to always use “You and I” indiscriminate of its subject/object position in a sentence, they were wrong, and if you believe that that’s correct grammar then you’re also wrong. But if you’re okay with that then whatever lol.
Just recognize it’s kind of hypocritical for you to criticize people who exclusively use “you and me,” because you’re just as wrong as they are.
@CarpetDenim i wasn't critisizing you or anyone else... just making an observation and reflecting on how my English teacher taught me to construct a sentance... i didn't once suggest you was wrong. just mentioned its not the way i speak and after all thats what the question was about