"Never Trust A Boy Scout." -Batman
Whose Faster Superman or The Flash?
"Never Trust A Boy Scout." -Batman
- Hands down The Flash and for a few reasons that might not immediately come to mind. For our examples We'll be referencing Wally West since he's faster than Barry Allen.
•Wally can manipulate each and every molecule in his body to for instance survive the inside of a black hole.
•With a touch Wally can steal another's speed and use it for himself, specially he can take a person's kinetic energy instantly stopping them in their tracks or freezing them for centuries even for thoes who are not linked to the speed force (like superman)
•Should wally become "unmoored" he can outrun the speed force itself, even running to the end of reality where the concept of death doesn't exist.
•Wally has beaten gambler gods in a race across the universe who could teleport instantaneously. To win Wally achieved "trans-time velocity" in less than one unit of planck time (roughly 1.911^-43) which is the absolute edge of measurable time itself. At this point he was so fast reality does not have any means to calculate or even comprehend his speed.
•To determine the fastest flash of them all Wally and Barry raced each other, this simple contest nearly tore apart "the very fabric of the multiverse".
•With Wally's "infinite mass punch" applying the laws of relativity, as Wally's fist approaches light speed its mass technically grows to a infinite degree striking with kinetic energy equivalent to a white dwarf star [White dwarf star mass 1.2 x Solar mass (1.989 x 10^30 kg)] 2.3868e^30 kg. To put that into perspective, the biggest nuke ever created was 50 megatons. One puch from Wally would be like 40 million of thoes.
•Wally is also able to change is vibration frequency to affect alien energies that do not exist in his own reality. Which is how he helped take out aliens called "Quantum Mechanics", beings far beyond any physical dimension and immune to ordinary physics.
And a few quick points: Survived the Big Crunch & outran the Big Bang, Withstood grabbing a singularly, Tore apart the Anti-Monitor's armor, Faster than 4th dimensional teleportation, Rescued 532,000 people in.00001 microseconds, Generated so much energy he was mistaken for the Source, and has defeated Reverse-Flash, Superman, Black Flash, Zoom, and Barry Allen.
Tl;dr Wally is faster than superman cause science and speed force.2|10|0Is this still revelant?Meh... they're still changing stories for ratings...
I stopped watching Flash because it got too flimsy.
50 years ago superman was already going back in time. The flash couldn't do that until a few years ago when the writers couldn't dream up better plots.
Just my opinion of the whole made up pointless but fun to think about fantasy world.@Andres77 Flash has been traveling through time since the early 1960s in the comics. It's nothing that was created recently at all.
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Bias?
Fine... I'll admit it but the flash can move so fast but he breaks his joints and can't take a hit for nothing. He heals fast, fine. But his body has to be in a constant state of repair and he can get hurt badly enough that he could really not survive.
Superman can handle the physics of his own speed.
In fantasy land my vote still goes to superman because "the reality of physics" would destroy the flash and superman could just ignore it.
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@Andres77 Reality doesn't enter into fantasy comics. In the comics, Flash is the undisputed fastest because the Speed Force lets him run faster than Superman ever could.
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- Superman's power have changed drastically from the past to recent times. It was for the first time when it was shown that he was about as same as the flash in Justice League live action. But they never showed us who won and it was only most recently that this superpower of Superman was shown. Hard to say for now but judging the comic's history and comparing their powers, it's Flash for the win.0|10|0Is this still revelant?
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- Well according to the show “The Flash” on the CW, Male domination of the superhero genre, is merely a product of and evidence for the patriarchy because... Ah who cars, I’m just kidding! Obviously Superman would win... He can fly faster than the speed of light and reverse time for peats sake! Yet when the Flash runs at HIS top speed, we gan all see a Blurr, you can’t see light move! So, clearly it’s Superman.0|30|1Is this still revelant?
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@VanillaSalt YES! Obviously 🙄 LOL. And no, I never read the comics. I was never allowed to read anything but literature, after about age 6
Sry your pic is blonde after all ;)
I don’t read them either. But I watch the color versions on YouTube lolThat’s velocity not speed. Also to be clear if you move in a different direction in time would that formula not make you go -mph? You’d break physics.
@VanillaSalt No, definitely not Mph! The formula for time travel is in Kph, EVERYONE knows THAT!
@VanillaSalt Damn right I’m a blonde, and PLEASE don’t ask if the carpet matches the drapes... I pulled-up the carpet YEARS ago, and installed hard wood flooring! 😉
I get ya it’s usually better to have hard wood but sometimes the carpet keeps ya warm if ya know what I mean.
@VanillaSalt Actually, No! I literally do not. I’ve been shaving since shortly after they grew in! Literally the first day of 6th grade, after PE, some girls made a comment about me having pubes, and that afternoon, when I got home... GONE!
Lol so self conscious. It’s better than a jungle at least. I don’t like jungle trekking for fruit.
@VanillaSalt Well, I WAS very self conscious about everything when I was 11, but I’m pretty secure in my sense of self these days. Also, I don’t blame you for not liking a “thicket” of pubes, it’s gross IMHO.
I don’t have the patience for that shit and I’m not a boy so trimmings enough for me. Besides there will never be a point anything sharp will approach my baby makers... and you got me fucked up if ya think ima wax LMAO
If ya haven’t seen it you should try bad moms Christmas. Ull understand after seeing it why I said so. Hilarious.You're talking about speed with a vector (direction) which is called velocity. Speed only has magnitude lol
In order to measure speed OR distance you have to determine the space between 2 points... you can’t measure something speed without first knowing the distance between two points and how long it takes to cross the distance.
You got it, 100 meters in 10 seconds = 10m/s. 100m in 0 seconds is an undefined speed but you can assume it's extremely fast. If he goes back in time, I don't think the speed formula holds up lol. But the flash isn't real so it's not a huge problem
Actually 100m in 0 seconds is a defined speed you just didn’t count time in small enough increments. As long as you have a distance traveled you have movement and thus speed. Even if it’s.00001m/ 100 sec. then you have to also consider relative time. It would be interesting to see the formula for figuring his speed now that I think about it.
Also... he was real enough in someone’s mind to have been thought up. So real enough ;)Well Flash could easily win, bc while superman can fly faster than speeding bullet not at the speed of light That's Barry allen he can go into any timeline, and time slows down when he runs at least for him and when he can do that he can win multiple times by creating time remnants
- Obviously, it's THE FLASH errdayyyalldayyy <3 hehehe. That's why he's The Flash! Lol. He can run into different time forces, change time, vibrate, and always going to "run Barry run" at the speed of his light. #mysuperherobias0|10|0Is this still revelant?
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1233- It's a split decision.
Believe it or not, as a kid, I actually saw this question answered by DC Comics itself. It was in a response to a letter from a reader. Back in those days, they printed letters from readers on the back page or two of the comic book - and if it was possible, the editor would reply.
In this case I don't recall if the letter was in Flash, Superman, Action Comics or Justice League. However a reader duly asked and the Editor replied.
Split decision -
Flash for shorter distances. However, for longer distances, Superman, because of his superpowers, would last longer and would be able to tire the Flash and outpace hime.
Thus the wisdom of the Editor at DC comics circa 1975. The Oracle has spoken.0|10|0Comics have changed a lot since the 1970s. Batman certainly isn't still like Adam West for example. The Speed Force wasn't a thing back in the 1970s. The Speed Force was introduced in the comics in the late 1980s/early 1990s, and ever since then, it has been absolutely no contest. Flash is significantly faster than Superman since Flash can use the Speed Force but Superman cannot.
@Gafgorkion Well, I defer to you young whipper snappers. I can only tell you what DC Comics officially told its' readers at the time. I've heard no official statements since then. Then again, you know how political these things can get.
I'm 42, so I'm not that young. I'm just a big comic nerd who has been reading comics all my life. lol
But yeah, comics change so much the answer really depends on what era you are talking about. In older comics, Superman and Flash were about equal in speed, but in more modern comics, Flash is significantly faster.- Show All Show Less
@Gafgorkion Well, not to worry. I am officially neutral on the question.
MY favorite super hero, in any case, was - and is, although I have not read a comic since junior high school - the Phantom Stranger. Particularly as drawn and portrayed in DC Super Stars # 18 and Justice League of America # 145 and all Phantom Stranger comics AFTER # 4.
Now he was COOL!!! Oh, and if he has been changed in any way for any reason, no matter how minor the change - and that include the mortal sin of attempting to give him a definitive origin story - it is the functional equivalent of trying to touch up the Mona Lisa with a paint gun!
Truly an offense against the laws of man and God.
Of course, as you can tell, I don't feel too strongly on this matter.You really don't want to know. They did give Phantom Stranger a "definitive origin" back around 2011-2012, and it was absolutely horrible. They ruined his character.
@Gafgorkion The MONSTERS!!! Well, I'm not happy about THAT!!!
Fortunately for me I am 57, stopped reading in 8th grade (or actually when I entered high school) and can pretend that it never happened.
So what you just told me? Imagine me, sitting on the floor, cross legged, fingers in ears and saying loudly and in a sing-songy voice, "LALALALALALALAL I CAN'T HEAR YOU BECAUSE I HAVE MY FINGERS IN MY EARS!!! LALALALALALALALA!!!"
So there!! We never had this conversation.I try to pretend it never happened as well. DC went through a really bad spot in the early 2010s where they butchered a lot of their characters. If you want to know what they did to Phantom Stranger, read below. Otherwise stop reading. lol
They revealed that Phantom Stranger is actually Judas Iscariot, the same Judas who betrayed Jesus Christ. As punishment for his sin, he now has to walk the earth forever as a "stranger" to everyone. Yeah, it was that bad...@Gafgorkion MY EYES!!! MY EYES!!!
Gotta admit, I never would have thought of that one!!
Oh well, they are not going to ruin my childhood memories. Comic book time stopped when I entered high school - and there I choose to leave it. (As you can tell, though, Phantom Stranger really made an impression back in those days. The fact that I first met him in DC Superstars presents #18 and still remember that issue that day - I even remember the weather - tells you something.)
Too bad they messed with him. He was a brilliant character.
- I will never understand why Superman fanatics want Supes to be faster than the Flash.
It just makes more sense that the Flash is faster. I loved Smallville and I loved this scene. https://www.youtube.com/embed/NLYEExrAEJI0|10|0 - Flash, obviously.
Superman cannot break light speed unless he's in outer space where he is not pulled by gravity. though he's still has some advantages for the fact that he is fast all on his own. Flash in the other hand gets all his powers from the Speedforce. which means he'll be nothing but a weirdo with a custom on if you teleport him outside the DC multiverse0|10|0 - Well, as geek I can say
Superman is faster than the young flash because his reaction time is faster
Later, Flash gets faster because he learns how to use his power and discovers the "flash point" which can set back time...
Plus he gets some upgrades while he is in that gyroscope prison to run continuously over years on max speed...0|10|0 - It's Superman. He has "Reality Warp" Speed and can fly to another Star in an instant, and fly so fast it reverses time itself.
Flash can run so fast it stops time, but Superman can fly so fast it REVERSES time.
Superman wins.0|20|0 - Barry Allen's record top speed is just shy of 13 trillion times faster than light. That's quite a bit faster than Supermans' 16 to 20 times faster than light. It's probably worth pointing out that while Superman has only shown the ability to fly at the speed in outer space, it's reasonable to assume that he can fly that fast, or at least very close to it, while in a planet's atmosphere, he just refuses to fly that fast one on earth out of fear are the damage it would cause.1|10|0
- They had a competition in a comic book when I was a kid. It was a tie.
Superman couldn't fly.
The flash could run across water, superman had to swim.
Basically superman had to hold back.
Superman would really win, hands down0|10|0 - Flash.
Yes, Superman beat Flash in a race recently but Flash intentionally holds back his speed due to the damage he can do to space-time if he went all out. Superman went all out in that race and BARELY won.0|10|1 - The Flash’s top speed is 2,532 mph, 3.3 times the speed of sound and the ground equivalent of a SR-71 Blackbird.
Superman, in air speed, can reach up to 7,200,000 mph, 9,350 times faster than the speed of sound and about a 9th of the speed of light.
So yes, technically Superman is faster as he can travel at a faster air speed than the flash, who does not possess the capability of flight.0|10|0 - I'm ONLY saying Superman because he can fly and doesn't have to fly around many obstacles. But a land race, definitely The Flash.1|20|0
Flash is so fast that he literally vibrates though objects so he doesn't have to run around them.
Well yeah his metabolic rate is much higher than a normal person's so he has to eat a lot, but it's not like he can't complete a race without stopping to eat. lol
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To my knowledge the longest the flash has ran without stopping is 2 days straight and after a quick break he kept on going. I don't think somthing like that would really effect him for such a short race.
- Flash has incredible feats of speed obviously I’m not so sure if Superman has shown anything even slightly comparable to them. The movies and stuff don’t do comic flash justice0|10|1
I’m talking more flash beating a celestial being in a race across the universe despite the fact that that being was able to teleport
Also depends if your talking about golden Superman who bathed in the sun for over 1000 years.
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Very true Superman prime 1000000 or whatever tf his name was is by far superior but I don’t think that should count 😂
- Wasn't there some kind of race in that dull film a few years back with them both in. Didn't that answer it?1|10|0
It was post credits scene that ended on a ending that basically left it up to the audience at home to come up with and determine what they think happened, for themselves!
I'll be honest. I know I've seen bits of the film. Fell asleep through bits. Couldn't tell you what it's called.
At least DC are consistent when it comes to making films.
- Neo from Matrix because the way he travelled to saved Trinity is unexplainable. He almost crashed the matrix.0|00|0
- superman obviously. he's so overpowered, that he got boring and they had to come up with cryptonite.
the only super hero comic that is still interesting with a completely overpowered main character is one punch man :D0|10|0 - I'd say DC would say the Flash. And there are several examples you could cite where the Flash has proven he's faster. However since Superman's power is drawn from Earth's yellow sun maybe it's dependent on that.0|10|0
- My grandma when she hear that I didn’t eat anything today2|60|0
- Flash, he travels at the speed of light, are you kidding me? everyone knows this.0|20|0
- Deadpool is the actual fastest, we all know it. you can't deny the truth.0|20|0
I agree, but I'd argue that Peter, Shaggy, and The Quikster (Spongebob) need a proper chance. I mean, the quickster ran between the mountain and back so fast, it wasn't visable to the human eye. Fuckin impressive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_fwXYOSbdw
- Movies or comics? Because flash of faster in the comics.0|00|0
And in some movies Flash is faster. In Justice League War, Flash dodges Darkseid's Omega Beams and states "phew, I've never had to catch my breath before... Oh no, Superman..." And then Superman is struck by the other beam.
- It was actually addressed definitively in the Injustice comics. The answer is the Flash.0|00|0
- Flash has the Speedforce and has proven many times he is faster than Superman.0|10|0
- The Flash but sex would be horrible with the Flash though.0|10|0
- The Flash has to be faster or his whole character would be pointless.0|10|0
- Definitely The Flash... otherwise he would be called ‘slow-lane’. Lol 😂0|10|0
- He couldn't catch barry or wally. In flash war. So it's flash.
There so fast they can hop dimension0|10|0 - That's all the flash has is speed so he's got to be the fastest0|00|0
- If I recall correctly superman was shown to be faster in the comics but then again he wasn't faster in dceased so who knows0|10|0
- Superman is the best of the best!
However, I think Flash has him beat in pure speed. Superman is more of a jack of all trades.0|00|0 - The Flash has been revealed to be faster in the comics and animated series'.0|10|1
False. Superman can move faster, just not on earth without destroying everything. Is capable of warping time and space.
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That's where it gets tricky! Superman ultimately wouldn't be able to beat him in a foot race but when he flies then of course, cause the Flash can't fly! But if he could... Could you just imagine it?
- The flash can not only travel at the speed of light but also access the speed force, up to and including warping time.
Flash is faster0|10|0 - Undeniably both are fast but one has to be faster, and that is Deadpool.!!
Argue with a chimichanga0|20|0 - Depends. Which Flash?
But, yeah, it should be the Flash.0|10|0 - Typically the flash is shown to be slightly faster.0|10|1
- Superman. Didn't he reverse time to save the Earth?0|20|0
- 😆 Justice League movie shows superman is faster0|20|0
- Flash but either way the world would burn0|10|0
- They all move at about 24 frames a second.0|10|0
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