Hands down The Flash and for a few reasons that might not immediately come to mind. For our examples We'll be referencing Wally West since he's faster than Barry Allen.
•Wally can manipulate each and every molecule in his body to for instance survive the inside of a black hole.
•With a touch Wally can steal another's speed and use it for himself, specially he can take a person's kinetic energy instantly stopping them in their tracks or freezing them for centuries even for thoes who are not linked to the speed force (like superman)
•Should wally become "unmoored" he can outrun the speed force itself, even running to the end of reality where the concept of death doesn't exist.
•Wally has beaten gambler gods in a race across the universe who could teleport instantaneously. To win Wally achieved "trans-time velocity" in less than one unit of planck time (roughly 1.911^-43) which is the absolute edge of measurable time itself. At this point he was so fast reality does not have any means to calculate or even comprehend his speed.
•To determine the fastest flash of them all Wally and Barry raced each other, this simple contest nearly tore apart "the very fabric of the multiverse".
•With Wally's "infinite mass punch" applying the laws of relativity, as Wally's fist approaches light speed its mass technically grows to a infinite degree striking with kinetic energy equivalent to a white dwarf star [White dwarf star mass 1.2 x Solar mass (1.989 x 10^30 kg)] 2.3868e^30 kg. To put that into perspective, the biggest nuke ever created was 50 megatons. One puch from Wally would be like 40 million of thoes.
•Wally is also able to change is vibration frequency to affect alien energies that do not exist in his own reality. Which is how he helped take out aliens called "Quantum Mechanics", beings far beyond any physical dimension and immune to ordinary physics.
And a few quick points: Survived the Big Crunch & outran the Big Bang, Withstood grabbing a singularly, Tore apart the Anti-Monitor's armor, Faster than 4th dimensional teleportation, Rescued 532,000 people in.00001 microseconds, Generated so much energy he was mistaken for the Source, and has defeated Reverse-Flash, Superman, Black Flash, Zoom, and Barry Allen.
Tl;dr Wally is faster than superman cause science and speed force.
Meh... they're still changing stories for ratings...
I stopped watching Flash because it got too flimsy.
50 years ago superman was already going back in time. The flash couldn't do that until a few years ago when the writers couldn't dream up better plots.
Just my opinion of the whole made up pointless but fun to think about fantasy world.
@Andres77 Flash has been traveling through time since the early 1960s in the comics. It's nothing that was created recently at all.
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Bias?
Fine... I'll admit it but the flash can move so fast but he breaks his joints and can't take a hit for nothing. He heals fast, fine. But his body has to be in a constant state of repair and he can get hurt badly enough that he could really not survive.
Superman can handle the physics of his own speed.
In fantasy land my vote still goes to superman because "the reality of physics" would destroy the flash and superman could just ignore it.
I'm not trying to change any opinion. I'm just saying why I vote for superman.
Superman's power have changed drastically from the past to recent times. It was for the first time when it was shown that he was about as same as the flash in Justice League live action. But they never showed us who won and it was only most recently that this superpower of Superman was shown. Hard to say for now but judging the comic's history and comparing their powers, it's Flash for the win.
Well according to the show “The Flash” on the CW, Male domination of the superhero genre, is merely a product of and evidence for the patriarchy because... Ah who cars, I’m just kidding! Obviously Superman would win... He can fly faster than the speed of light and reverse time for peats sake! Yet when the Flash runs at HIS top speed, we gan all see a Blurr, you can’t see light move! So, clearly it’s Superman.
Obviously, it's THE FLASH errdayyyalldayyy <3 hehehe. That's why he's The Flash! Lol. He can run into different time forces, change time, vibrate, and always going to "run Barry run" at the speed of his light. #mysuperherobias
It's a split decision.
Believe it or not, as a kid, I actually saw this question answered by DC Comics itself. It was in a response to a letter from a reader. Back in those days, they printed letters from readers on the back page or two of the comic book - and if it was possible, the editor would reply.
In this case I don't recall if the letter was in Flash, Superman, Action Comics or Justice League. However a reader duly asked and the Editor replied.
Split decision -
Flash for shorter distances. However, for longer distances, Superman, because of his superpowers, would last longer and would be able to tire the Flash and outpace hime.
Thus the wisdom of the Editor at DC comics circa 1975. The Oracle has spoken.
Comics have changed a lot since the 1970s. Batman certainly isn't still like Adam West for example. The Speed Force wasn't a thing back in the 1970s. The Speed Force was introduced in the comics in the late 1980s/early 1990s, and ever since then, it has been absolutely no contest. Flash is significantly faster than Superman since Flash can use the Speed Force but Superman cannot.
I'm 42, so I'm not that young. I'm just a big comic nerd who has been reading comics all my life. lol
But yeah, comics change so much the answer really depends on what era you are talking about. In older comics, Superman and Flash were about equal in speed, but in more modern comics, Flash is significantly faster.
I will never understand why Superman fanatics want Supes to be faster than the Flash.
It just makes more sense that the Flash is faster. I loved Smallville and I loved this scene.
Flash, obviously.
Superman cannot break light speed unless he's in outer space where he is not pulled by gravity. though he's still has some advantages for the fact that he is fast all on his own. Flash in the other hand gets all his powers from the Speedforce. which means he'll be nothing but a weirdo with a custom on if you teleport him outside the DC multiverse
Well, as geek I can say
Superman is faster than the young flash because his reaction time is faster
Later, Flash gets faster because he learns how to use his power and discovers the "flash point" which can set back time...
Plus he gets some upgrades while he is in that gyroscope prison to run continuously over years on max speed...
It's Superman. He has "Reality Warp" Speed and can fly to another Star in an instant, and fly so fast it reverses time itself.
Flash can run so fast it stops time, but Superman can fly so fast it REVERSES time.
Superman wins.
Barry Allen's record top speed is just shy of 13 trillion times faster than light. That's quite a bit faster than Supermans' 16 to 20 times faster than light. It's probably worth pointing out that while Superman has only shown the ability to fly at the speed in outer space, it's reasonable to assume that he can fly that fast, or at least very close to it, while in a planet's atmosphere, he just refuses to fly that fast one on earth out of fear are the damage it would cause.
Flash.
Yes, Superman beat Flash in a race recently but Flash intentionally holds back his speed due to the damage he can do to space-time if he went all out. Superman went all out in that race and BARELY won.
Wasn't there some kind of race in that dull film a few years back with them both in. Didn't that answer it?
The Flash’s top speed is 2,532 mph, 3.3 times the speed of sound and the ground equivalent of a SR-71 Blackbird.
Superman, in air speed, can reach up to 7,200,000 mph, 9,350 times faster than the speed of sound and about a 9th of the speed of light.
So yes, technically Superman is faster as he can travel at a faster air speed than the flash, who does not possess the capability of flight.
I'm ONLY saying Superman because he can fly and doesn't have to fly around many obstacles. But a land race, definitely The Flash.
Flash has incredible feats of speed obviously I’m not so sure if Superman has shown anything even slightly comparable to them. The movies and stuff don’t do comic flash justice
They had a competition in a comic book when I was a kid. It was a tie.
Superman couldn't fly.
The flash could run across water, superman had to swim.
Basically superman had to hold back.
Superman would really win, hands down
Neo from Matrix because the way he travelled to saved Trinity is unexplainable. He almost crashed the matrix.
superman obviously. he's so overpowered, that he got boring and they had to come up with cryptonite.
the only super hero comic that is still interesting with a completely overpowered main character is one punch man :D
I'd say DC would say the Flash. And there are several examples you could cite where the Flash has proven he's faster. However since Superman's power is drawn from Earth's yellow sun maybe it's dependent on that.
My grandma when she hear that I didn’t eat anything today
Flash, he travels at the speed of light, are you kidding me? everyone knows this.
Deadpool is the actual fastest, we all know it. you can't deny the truth.
I agree, but I'd argue that Peter, Shaggy, and The Quikster (Spongebob) need a proper chance. I mean, the quickster ran between the mountain and back so fast, it wasn't visable to the human eye. Fuckin impressive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_fwXYOSbdw
Movies or comics? Because flash of faster in the comics.
It was actually addressed definitively in the Injustice comics. The answer is the Flash.
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