Lie After Women

[MCheetah]

It's taken me a long time to move past my broken genetics; specifically the terrible height, but also the other things. I wasted my whole twenties looking for love and fulfilling my life's goal of a partner and children. And with one person, I might have come close. But other than that, it was all for waste.

By the time I was 30, I gave up pursuing women because there was nothing I could do about my physical body, ie, being 'too short to love.' I also said I wouldn't be abused or used by anyone, like other men in my situation. And it took another five years for me to finally let go of that last foolish shred of hope. It's not like I would ever willingly conceive children anyway, with my garbage genetics/DNA. At best, I'd adopt. But not without a lifelong partner.

I actually talked to two female users of GAG in private and was able to finally bury these foolish dreams of mine. Being stuck in the past doesn't help me. So after a while of transitioning to knowing I'll be "Forever Alone," I've finally accepted my fate.

Now, I'm working on improving myself. Getting dental work done, in addition to laser skin treatment, to look better. And soon, bariatric surgery to finally overcome Hypothyroidism and lose weight. I'll resume kickboxing and martial arts post-surgery.

I can't believe it's taken me 15 years to let go of something as impossible as romantic relationships. Ten years of endless failure, and another five years of letting go. But as I said, I don't want to simp or be abused by anyone, and that's not genuine love to me. So if my ugly hobbit ass will literally never be accepted by a woman, then I guess I'll have to do the cliché thing and learn to 'love myself.'

It's not like the Chads out there are singing their praises, anyway. Dating sucks for 95% of Western men nowadays. And unlike most of them, I'm not going to be for some mediocre woman to pity me and simp to her and kiss her feet. It's either a true equal relationship for me, or nothing at all. And well, with my genes, the latter is impossible. And even IF I managed to fully grow up, the personality seems to be lacking with most, anyway. So it's almost like it's lose-lose for most men when it comes to finding love. Women are lucky they never have to go through any of this and the worse they deal with is just being too picky and entitled to choose one good imperfect man to be with.

I still know with 100% certainty that the real me is 6'5" and fully grown and not this short amorphous blob that I've been cursed to be disabled in. But since I've been cursed as such, there's no use in chasing after what's literally impossible anymore. I can finally accept being Forever Alone. And learn to 'love myself.'

[Starlight007]

You cracked the code! that's the whole purpose of life that most people don't even fully consider, You first need to love yourself because you are going to be with yourself until you die and for most people that's a long time, you spend more time with yourself and with your thoughts more than with others so the most important relationship that you can ever ever is a relationship with yourself.

The world changed we are more technologically advanced and societal norms are different and the cost of that is a messed up society with messed up societal standards. No one can have everything we wanted progression, we wanted a tech focused world and out loss is mess up societal standards, less conservativeness and more innovation and a higher reliance of technology.

Dating and meeting partners is now increasingly difficult men and women alike are struggling to find suitable partners but why is that? It's because a result of our progression as a society resulted in our inability to socialize face to face, so we rely on online dating which is ineffective for many reasons. Then on top of that society made women afraid to be submissive, women are now taking on dominate roles because they believe that in order to be attractive strong women and good mothers they need to be dominant, less feminine because femininity is weak and have a high body count and be promiscuous.

One thing for sure though is that a relationship with two dominant people is a epic fail, and women are naturally submissive but they refuse to embrace that nowadays they refuse to let their husbands/men express their masculinity and natural dominance, the refuse cook and clean and take care of their men and the kids because doing this is "sexist🙄". Yes the guy should pitch in and help you out but you should be doing these tasks its innate as a woman.

And there's nothing wrong with being submissive and like I always say men express dominance and masculinity by exhibiting great leadership skills and if you are a woman with a man like that then why are you also being dominant... you should be following your husband's lead, let him shine in his domain and you shine in yours... let nature take it's course. Woman are attracted to dominant men but yet they refuse to be submissive so that the dominate men can be attracted to them as well and they refuse to embody their natural femininity which makes them even more undesirable to men. I strongly believe that fully functional men and women are the ones who can appropriately express their dominant, masculine and feminine, submissive roles but its brutally hard to find a openly feminine and submissive woman as a man in 2022.

[Starlight007]

our loss is messed up societal standards*

[bean2k21]

After my divorce, I realized I can actually be happier than most men. I don't have to put up with anybody's bull and I can pursue whatever passion I want, including those which make a profit and not share that profit. In addition, I am not afraid to spend on things which I find of value, and consequently women do more for me now than they ever have. Sometimes I get lonely, but once I let go of that feeling, the world opens up and random shit happens. This morning, a dude walked in off the beach and just fired up a joint next to me. I'm feeling pretty damn good. Is it a pain in the ass looking outside of your home for a masseuse or a manicure? Fuck yes. But, you'll get what you pay for in every respect.

[lightbulb27]

Are you 5'9?

I'm 5'6 3/4. Just got married after dating her several years. She's 6" shorter, but there's plenty of girls that go for a 5'9 dude, you are in the sweet spot. So... that makes no sense to me.

Life is choices and tradeoffs. I was living the single lonely and loveless life for long time. I had my hangups and issues, I bombed out and made bad mistakes in the past.

My wife and I agreed she works, I run the house and it's working good. We are enjoying life traveling, entertaining family... everyone is doing well in the family and we feel very fortunate. It took a lot of change to get to this point. I've said that before, that's what it takes to get to somewhere else.

Im glad to hear you are working on your physical self, change is good. The emotional work on myself took well into my 40's... as I'd ignored and suppressed myself for so long. Maybe that strikes a chord in you... men are notorious for ignoring their emotional needs and thus freedom.

There's adventures out there... should you choose to embrace them.

[MCheetah]

No, I am not 5'9"/175 cm. I assume you're confusing five-foot-nine with 5.9 feet, which are not the same thing.

[lightbulb27]

below you state you are 180cm, how tall is that in inches?

[Adronicus]

I'm 6'2, athletic shape & get asked if I model often & guess what? They try playing games with me too:/ Blows up in their face instantly as I lose all interest when this happens.

I can't believe the audacity in some of these women thinking I'll tolerate that crap. The keys learning to read body language, eye contact & identifying red flags. I never had kids or settled down yet.

I don't even bother with dating anymore as it seems a waste of time & who cares the least wins. Not in my nature to give up so I've continued to work on myself, especially expanding social circles.

I know right off when a woman's interested but more time than not she'll ruin it with playing hard to get or expecting me to chase (I've never chased a woman in my life). Sounds demeaning & akin to groveling in my opinion.

The only advice I can give is we have to use what we were given & if you want something bad enough you'll find a way to make that happen. self acceptance & working on yourself is a great start so sounds like you're on the right path.

There's another way too, a few of my buddies went this route & worked for some failed for others; pursuing woman from more traditional families outside the U. S.. Yes, requires resources & if you're serious moving there as well. Seems like most my friends that went this route the ones regretting it were the ones that brought them back here.

[Twalli]

I'm probably shorter than you and have a woman (my height) who is truly and 100% in love with me. She turned down 5 guys waiting for me to ask her out. Honestly I probably love her more than she loves me, but she doesn't make me simp or do anything I don't want to. If I want to love her as a deeply as I do, I can, and if I want to love her less, then I can too. I do somewhat agree with not wanting to pass on my genetics and if my girlfriend and I so choose we will adopt. I decided not to pass on my genetics and got a vasectomy, and it was one of the greatest decisions I've ever made.

[Vegasrunner]

@mcheetah Good take but in my opinion you're making it harder than need be. Reality is the big advantage of being a man is that you can control the most important things that women are looking for.

1. Make Money

2. Work on your physical fitness

3. Have an abundance mentality

Thats literally the entire game. Gl

[lofii]

Damn bro that's tough.

I think a lot of young men need guidance in the life department.

Good luck on your journey

[MCheetah]

Thanks.

[moodyone]

what about relocation to other countries? something like middle east, maybe those muslim countries. they tend to have a proper relationships nowadays
180 cm is a good height. tyson is 178 and he was destroying 200 cm men
about real love - i am not from western world but in my opinion prostitutes would be the best girlfriend there

[Berethor]

It not easy thing to accept, but yea dating sucks for most men.

[BurntKeyboard]

Great, more of this. I'm an evil horrible female and I'd date a guy who's 5'2. But I guess, since I'm an inferior species to the great man, I only want to ruin their lives and make them buy me 10,000 dollars worth of clothes

[RiseofArtemis]

The problem is good women are rare and they are quickly married away to other good men. What stays after a certain age are usually mentally damaged women who have slept around so much they have no pairbonding ability.

[captain_voidwalker]

A wise decision i did much the same and am a better man for it. Enjoy your freedom

[icetome]

you think a women is a equal to me?

hahahahahahah

they are tiny 90 pound creatures

I do as I please with them

[driven159]

once you stop looking that is when your dream girl will find you

[LovingLoverReturned]

Would you go to Africa?

[MCheetah]

Go to Africa for what?

If you mean to find a decent compatible woman, it wouldn't make any difference.

[LovingLoverReturned]

That's what I meant. Since you said Western men face this. They may be more accepting.

[MCheetah]

Women everywhere still want a man who is significantly taller than them and willing to turn him into a wage slave. I don't mind treating a woman nicely, especially if I loved her, but I refuse to be with a woman who'd leave me the first day after losing my job and ending up unemployed. Like I said, most other men as genetically broken as me use money to keep a woman around, but to me, that's not love or a genuine relationship.

I also already told you in DMs that I'm only 180 cm, so I'm done wasting my time and life on this if women would not/could not accept me as I am. I know my own value, even if women can't see it.

[malwins]

Is the title "life after women"? Lol

[MCheetah]

Yes. Typo.

[malwins]

How short r u

[malwins]

U call 6 ft being short

[JamesRandiDebates]

I don't understand the title.

[MCheetah]

It's a typo. Supposed to say "Life After Women" but GAG f*cked it up.

[hostboy__fastestlaps]

The stupid damn west man

[daisydukeso]

best of luck

[truthisthree]

waste of time