Would you be okay with your boyfriend going on vacation with a female best friend?
- I'm going to use football to illustrate a point. Mainly because I coached/played it, but also it's as widely watched a sport in the US by fans and casual folks alike. So, it should work well. However, if you don't like football that's fine. Team work is the point and how teams work well is the key to translate to a relationship, which is also just a team of 2 (generally at least only 2 ;))
Assuming Positive Intent vs. Negative Intent
If Patrick Mahomes throws a pass higher than his wide receiver can reach. Referee whistle sounds, play over, walking back to the huddle. The QB and WR can do many things in reaction to this failed play. We see this on TV countless times if we watch football.
Teammates who assume positive intent will react like this:
Pat Mahomes: Dang I was a little off target (reason irrelevant) and I could have made a better pass. Sometimes WR X is able to make that play, bummer that he didn't, that would have been great. I'm sure he tried. Time to console him, apologize for being off target and get ready to be a team unified against the D on play 2. WR look at it essentially the same towards the QB.
Teammates who assume negative intent will react like this:I'm mad I didn't get to make the pass/catch. I blame him for not allowing me to make a complete pass/catch. I feel anger/blame not just disappointment, and I don't assume that he did his best for me.
Scenario 1 is driven by trust and caring about the team and team values.
Scenario 2 is driven by fear and mistrust.
For the record all of us usually assume we'd be scenario 1, but others may not be worthy of it or treat us that way. Some of us may say nope I'd be like scenario 2, but again most don't see themselves that way.
However, we all feel fear. Hence why it's a question to even pose. Can my sig other go with an opposite sex partner on a vacation. I mean... if you trust this person and you know they have no negative intent toward you... why wouldn't you?
If you can't trust them to do this... then that's what I'd focus on, not acting out on the unhealthy, emotions of fear and lack of trust.
Also.. how hot is the friend... maybe a good time to consider a 3some.1|00|1Is this still revelant?
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- Seems fine. I'm mixing up the genders for the question, because I would have a girlfriend, but I think that's fine if she takes another boyfriend or even doesn't but has sex with someone when she's in Japan. Or even a couple people.
I mean, she's my girlfriend, not my possession in my control that I am controlling and dictating everything she does in life. It's her vagina, not mine. What she does with it is her business, and as long as she stays free from disease, she can have sex with me when she comes back.
I don't say this because I have a cuck fetish or anything, I just believe in equality, and if *I* go to Japan (or more likely Brazil or Cuba) without my girlfriend, I am not going to be happy if she demands I have no sex the entire time. Maybe I will, maybe I won't, but the decision is up to me. If it's not, then I break up with her to regain my rights to make my own decisions.They may take our lives, but they'll never control my penis! 0|13|0Is this still revelant?
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- Hell nooo 😂 people do that? It’s really gonna hurt my feelings not cause he’d go with a friend but because he’d be perfectly fine with going on holidays without me when this should be our time since we’d be busy working etc, and to top it off he wants to spend the time with another female and not me? 😂 no, just no.. now if it was a getaway with the boys I’m perfectly fine with that since I can’t replace them lol but a female friend now.. that’s disrespectful to say the least if he enjoys her company so much he should date her and not me. i would never do something like that, if we’ve dated for a year it’s not about me affording something or if he can afford it, it’s whether we can afford it or not.. with each of us contributing of course, and if we can’t we’re just gonna stay at home enjoying each others company.. 😊 or go on a cheaper holiday..2|10|0Is this still revelant?
- It would bother me that I couldn't go as well, like all 3 of us. Not because it's with a girl. I guess it depends how much your trust your partner and how long him and his female friend have been friends for. My boyfriend has a female best friend who's been around for at least twice as long as I have. So I would trust them whole heartedly0|00|0Is this still revelant?
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3031- Uhhhhh no that is ridiculous. He should have more sensitivity to how you would feel. Pfffft3|02|0
- Inappropriate if you are Both a Couple. Absolutely Nut!!! xxoo1|11|1
- Sketch if you ask me.
What is this other woman like? Is she attractive or morbidly obese and butch looking? Does she have a boyfriend? How long have they known each other? Why does she need to go with him? Why can’t he just go himself if he wants to go so bad?
Women are sometimes possessive and paranoid. But this situation is different. Unless you have known her for a very long time and are absolutely sure she’s not a threat then you have reasons to be very concerned.
Personally if I wanted to go on an adventure the last thing I would want is a galpal to come with me. I would have the added burden of needing watch over her while not getting laid. Very strange he wants her to go with him.0|00|0 - Your last question says "would you be OK or heartbroken"? Since the poll options don't specify what people are saying "yes" or "no" to, I'll just answer here. No, and I don't recommend anyone to be OK with this, since it's a recipe for cheating if I ever saw one. First question: Why does he have to go with someone, and not alone? He's not a child anymore, I assume, so he doesn't need someone else. Second: Why does it have to be someone of the opposite sex, and not just a friend of the same sex? Trips alone usually come with cheating involved, but if he's already going with someone from the opposite sex, I think you can SAFELY assume you're getting cheated on. In fact, you're probably already getting cheated on, since this woman didn't show up out of nowhere to go with him, definitely.2|00|0
- Anyone who dates such a person shows they lack self respect, let alone are delusion of "trusting" it. No, having such "partner" is simply asking to get cheated on. If my girl even suggest it, I'll ditch and replace her in no time. There is no point in teaching adults about obvious relationship boundaries.0|00|0
- No I'd be seriously concerned as to why my boyfriend would prefer to go on holiday with his friends over me. My boyfriends female friends are mainly all lesbians he met at work but id still find it weird but he'd wanna go on holiday with his lesbian friend over spending time with me.0|00|0
- I doubt any girlfriend would be completely fine with this. Yes, they might initially say yes but cannot help thinking if they should have said no.
Tough to speak for women in general but I don't think any girlfriend would be fine with that. Mostly not.0|00|0 - i guess the real question is it okay for a guy to go on a vacation with his male best friend because if the answer is yes to this to someone but then they so no just cause he is a she that's sexist and thinking badly of your partner like that might aswell not be together.
And i would say yes to male best friend or female. But i would be confused to why they cannot just save up the money and go as boyfriend and girlfriend which would be better. Also depends how long no one wants to be away from there partner for months long that's just a bad sign.0|02|0 - I would not be okay with not going. It would make me feel left out and like he didn't want to go with me.
To me its a sign that a breakup is coming..
In my relationship now he would never consider going even if I could not pay he would wait to save money or pay for me cuz he wants me there with him. To me that's the standard in a healthy relationship.
Gender of a friend doesn't matter to me its more the leaving me behind that would bother me.2|00|0 - What boyfriend wouldn’t buy his girlfriend a ticket but instead take the female best friend?7|00|0
- Ok I don't know what the situation is between you two, but to me, it would seem the logical thing to do would be to go on a vacation the both of you can afford to go on together. A boyfriend who spends all his money only on himself is no boyfriend at all if you ask me.4|00|0
- Oh yeah, sure. It would be great to be left alone at home. I also hope that his friend's mouth, asshole and pussyhole feel awesome as they work his cock and accept multiple cumloads. :)1|11|0
- depends, if she's ugly, old or fat yea he can bc i'm pretty sure he wouldn't cheat on me with her. if she's not that, i wouldn't want him to go alone with her (but i might say yes bc i don't want to piss him off) bc tbh something probs will happen at some point. like i'm sure they'd have sex at least once.1|00|0
a man will cheat even if the woman is ugly. Prime example is Arnold Schwarzenegger cheating on his wife for the maid
- I would not be ok with it. Your his girlfriend. If you couldn’t make it, then he should plan a different trip where you can come. He’s not thinking about your feelings.0|00|0
- Seems a little weird to me, I guess it'd depend on who it was... Of course with a group it'd be fine, I'd just find it strange for him to go on a vacation without me with one other girl.0|00|0
- I'm not dating anyone I don't trust, so they can go.
My best friend's girlfriend let him stay with me and my other best friend for my birthday trip.
Also, this same bestfriend let his girlfriend go to Italy to visit her male friend.1|10|1 - I would feel really sad that he would ask me to go with another women. My heart would break because i would be too poor to make him happy. I would never want him to go with another women.2|00|0
- It depends. Has he ever gave me a reason to not trust him? If so, he could do whatever because we wouldn't even be together0|00|0
- Suppose I had a girlfriend and I could go to that vacation with a female best friend, something tells me, that with a likelihood of 100% I won't bed her.
I'm cursed.0|00|0 - No. I wouldn't be okay with that. I'd question why he didn't want to wait for me to save up, so we could go together.
Situations like this aren't always about trust, it's about respect and crossing boundaries.1|10|1 - Any girl that does that needs to have her head examined.5|10|0
- Maybe if she was gay and looked like the back end of a bus 😂 otherwise no0|00|0
- I´d be worried if she had no problem with that. I´d had a problem if she would go with her male bestfriend.1|00|0
- I wouldn't be okay with that why the f*** he got to go best friend anyway.0|00|0
- imma be honest, part of me feels that, if she would gladly accept that, i would be worried that she could be cheating on me and just wanted to get rid of me3|00|0
- If i'm in a committed relationship, there is no way that i'll go anywhere without my girlfriend...4|10|0
I have 100% agree with you dude. If she don't have the money to go then I would be holding off on the trip to save up money to take her.
- Honestly if my girlfriend went out with her boy bff that was here before I was sure i be fine with it cause there family0|00|0
- So sus it’s dumb. If you think you’re going to slide this behind me Mario... YOU ARE GOING TO PAY ME, YOUR F*CKING HOUSE PAYMENT.0|00|0
- Nope.
That breaks relationship boundary.
We break up if she wants to travek with guys.
Black and white.0|10|0 - Anonymous1 moI dont think anyone would say "okay" to this.
But that does not mean I support that.1|01|0 - Hahah, well if woman has a mind she shouldn't allow that like NEVER. Otherwise they can expect their boyfriend to become a dad in that vacation.3|10|0
- Of course I wouldn’t be...2|10|0
What would you do if he says he's going anyway and the girl is too because she can afford to pay?'
I would make it clear that it’s disrespectful to me and it’s not necessary for him to do this at all.
Personally i wouldn’t wanna be with someone like that anyway...
- No , that’s disrespectful , how would he feel if you were going on vacation with another guy without him?2|00|0
- In your specific scenario I could see why it would bother you, but not because he's going with a girl. Like, why does that matter?0|01|0
if you found out your girlfriend was traveling with her male best friend and you weren't invited because you can't afford it, would you be alright with her going with him
I already said that I understand it's bothering. But because of not being part of the adventure, not because of the gender of the friend. I'll ask again - why does it matter in this scenario if it's a friend of the opposite or same sex?
Because people often feel uncomfortable with the thought of the partner being with someone else m
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@MountAverage It’s not insecurity. It’s basic respect. My man would never do that shit because it’s inappropriate even if he doesn’t cheat.
@navyrobin How is it disrespectful and inappropriate exactly? Please try not to use circular argumentation and instead describe to me WHY it is disrespectful and inappropriate. I'm trying to understand what the issue is with this in general.
@MountAverage I’m not using circular “argumentation” lol. But seriously, tell me why you’d be uncomfortable if a girl you were dating was spending a lot of time with her “male friends” instead of spending time with you.
It makes you feel like she doesn’t respect the relationship. It’s not insecurity, it’s kind of like... Let’s say you’re in a double date and your bro brings his date with him. And then you spend the entire time with his girlfriend, and he spends all his time with your girlfriend.
It doesn’t look good. It’s not in the “moral code” of the relationship.@navyrobin "I’m not using circular “argumentation” lol."
You misunderstood me. I didn't mean that you WERE already using circular argumentation, I only asked you to avoid it when explaining to me why it's disrespectful and inappropriate. Because I want to understand.
"But seriously, tell me why you’d be uncomfortable if a girl you were dating was spending a lot of time with her “male friends” instead of spending time with you."
Specially BECAUSE it's a MALE friend? Well, because I'm worried there might be something between them. But if that were the case, the relationship is in trouble anyway. As for "instead of spending time with me" - that would bother me REGARDLESS of gender. And I'm trying to figure out why gender matters when it comes to spending more time with someone else. If your boyfriend is spending less time with you because of a guy friend, that's okay with you? I don't get it.
"It makes you feel like she doesn’t respect the relationship."
No, it doesn't. And I'd still like you to explain to me why it would.
"Let’s say you’re in a double date and your bro brings his date with him. And then you spend the entire time with his girlfriend, and he spends all his time with your girlfriend."
I mean, that sounds as if all of us four are having a good time, so I don't really see the issue. This scenario sounds as if no one feels neglected. But if I did feel neglected, why would it matter to me if my girlfriend neglects me because of my guy friend or because of his girlfriend? Why is one worse than the other? Please explain it to me.
"It doesn’t look good."
What does that mean, it doesn't "look" good? To whom? And why?
"It’s not in the “moral code” of the relationship."
Why not? What morals does it go against?Let me phrase it another way.
I don’t trust the girl. But I do trust my boyfriend. But I still don’t trust the girl.
Because I know what girls do around guys who are taken (and single guys too but I don’t worry about them as much as my boyfriend).
Girls will try to seduce his ass.
That’s why gender matters. I don’t want that to even start to happen. Even if he doesn’t fall for her BS, it’d still bother me that he was even exposed to that potential heavy flirtation or attempts at seducing him.
Everybody knows that it’s inappropriate. It’s just how it is. You don’t have to overthink so much over it either. It’s like asking me why men open doors for women as if it were a philosophical question.
Sometimes the answer is simply “just because of the manners we are taught.”
No need for overthinking and over analysis."I don’t trust the girl. But I do trust my boyfriend. But I still don’t trust the girl."
See, but that's again a specific scenario. You're not worried he might do anything, but you find it inappropriate and disrespectful he's spending time with someone who wants something more from him. That's understandable. But my question was concerning actual platonic friends. In your case a female friend of his who genuinely sees him as only a friend. Where would be the issue in that?
"Because I know what girls do around guys who are taken (and single guys too but I don’t worry about them as much as my boyfriend)"
But you still need a specific reason to be suspicious of her. It must be something about her behavior or what she said etc.
"Girls will try to seduce his ass"
So, what does he need to do so that you will accept any of his female friends? Because if you just reject all of them merely on the basis of them being female, you're just being paranoid, possessive, obsessive, and controlling. And that would be... well, inappropriate and disrespectful, to say the least. :D
That’s why gender matters. I don’t want that to even start to happen. Even if he doesn’t fall for her BS, it’d still bother me that he was even exposed to that potential heavy flirtation or attempts at seducing him.
Everybody knows that it’s inappropriate. It’s just how it is. You don’t have to overthink so much over it either. It’s like asking me why men open doors for women as if it were a philosophical question.
Sometimes the answer is simply “just because of the manners we are taught.”
No need for overthinking and over analysis."That’s why gender matters."
It can matter, depending on the situation. But according to you it always matters. And that's paranoid nonsense.
"Everybody knows that it’s inappropriate. It’s just how it is."
No, not at all. You need to step outside of your bubble. There's many people who genuinenly have no issues with this. I call them mature people, lol. I don't I know a single person who doesn't have friends of the opposite sex without it even being any problem for their partners. Because they too all have friends of the opposite sex. I don't know in what kind of hyper-conservative bullshit area you live haha, but where I live being friends with the opposite is the most normal thing in the world, and anyone who has a problem with that is viewed as a ridiculous, immature baby and a hyper-insecure control freak. That's what you are, you pathetic little dumbfuck haha.
"No need for overthinking and over analysis."
Yeah, overthinking is exactly what YOU're doing, you idiot.
Now shit the fuck up, you pathetic control freak. :D
- I'm not a girl , but I know the vast majority of women would be pissed off1|00|0
- That's rather inappropriate. Either he goes with you or goes alone.4|00|0
- I'd be fine with it... When are we all leave 😊0|00|0
- I would have to know all the details.0|00|0
- Yeah of course. Why would that be heartbreaking?0|00|0
- I wouldn't even date someone with female best friend so that isn't an option.0|10|0
- Why can’t he just go by himself?0|10|0
- Anonymous1 moya he can go on a vacation with her... but we're gonna break up first though LOL0|10|0
- Never, i am not a cuck2|00|0
- It’s not a good sign.1|10|0
- Mostly no, but can depend who.1|00|0
- Anonymous1 moNo way. That's never happening.1|00|0
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