Do you believe that men are the head of the household and women should submit and obey?

[broken_heart_at_48]

Of course you should.
Just playing. I think it's a partnership but with a special dynamic that works best. Hear me out. In my situation my wife and I didn't want to put our kids in daycare so we agreed that one of us needed to stay home and take care of house and kids while the other one worked. Since I was able to make more money I went and worked 2 jobs and went to school. I was a concrete carpenter working on high-rise building's and did side jobs like framing, built fences, patio covers, decks, poured concrete, and whatever it took to support my family. Then once our kids were all in school the plan was for my wife to go to school to be an RN. My wife is terrible with money so I took the lead on what money went where and she took the lead on the house hold stuff but it wasn't like she had to ask me for money or get permission to buy anything and I didn't have to ask her for permission to do whatever house stuff. But on the big stuff we discussed it and decided what to do really we never faught we were always on the same page. All my friends would make comments about how I ran my house and would say how well I had my wife trained but they just didn't understand that it wasn't a matter of dominance from me or her it was respect and the fact that we were completely in love with each other. I put my wife on a pedestal and made a point to make her feel special daily. I'm rough around the edges and a big guy so people think she did things for me because I was dominant but it was because she appreciated how hard I worked and still took the time to have date night twice a month and would bring her flowers and do bubble baths for her and learned how to make crepes so me and my daughter's could serve her a fancy breakfast in bed just because we loved her. Sometimes you have to have one that has the final say but it should only be in what there strong suit is not have the ultimate control over everything. If we're both in charge and we don't agree who has the final say? It works best to divide responsibilities and final say but be willing to listen to each other. Of course in the bedroom that's different she likes to submit and I run that shit

[Psychoanalytical]

Many people misunderstand what the Bible means here by being "submissive". It doesn't mean that a woman would be a "servant" to her husband where he imposes all sorts of authorities and dictatorships on her. Nope, that's wrong.

Biologically, men are the physical protectors, they are built as war machines that can fight and defend. Whereas women are emotional protectors, that's why they make better parents than men - violence is more prevalent in men than in women. The majority of women also seek these protection-features in men. They subconsciously get attracted to men who get more pay, connected, greater in height and physical power with a baritone voice.

What the Bible simply means is that, a man who loves his wife and household, can be the leader - through his protector's role.

As the Bible says in 1 Peter 3:7 "Husbands, in the same way, live with your wives with an understanding of their weaker nature yet showing them honor as coheirs of the grace of life, so that your prayers will not be hindered."

Being lead by a loving person is in fact a blessing. Imagine when your manager at work is very loving, caring, kind and truly cares about the well-being of his/her employees, wouldn't you submit to his/her leadership? In fact, you would always want that manager to remain in position and never retire!

The Bible wants a husband to make great sacrifices for his wife as in Ephesians 5:25 "Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her"... And in Ephesians 5:28 "In the same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself."

As for me, I see no problem at all with the idea of both sides being equal in the household, that is, both sides can lead in what they are good at, serving each others. However, a submissive man loses his respect in his wife's eyes.. while a woman submissive to her husband doesn't lose that respect in her husband's eye, could we say biology?

[Minxxie]

This is one of the main reasons I left the church, and I have been better off ever since. I think the idea of "male headship" devalues the importance of fatherhood because the mother is expected to take on most of the childcare and the father has to be at work all the time. If things are equal it also means that the children get to bond with BOTH of their parents and everyone ends up a lot happier.

I have friends from super traditional homes and they barely know their fathers and their mothers have no personality left because they have gone numb to be able to keep acting as their husband's servant. These friends were more rebellious meanwhile I had nothing to rebel against, so what was the point in acting out when I could tell both my parents anything?

I am really grateful that I grew up in an equal home, and I'm really glad that my dad didn't see childcare as "women's work". He wanted a child and he was excited to spend time with me, that's natural for a father! Strict gender roles just create daddy issues or mommy issues from what I have seen.

[Spiffy_and_Tails]

See but there is more to that passage (grew up in church, heard like 5 sermons about it, 3 made sense). It's from Ephesians 5, that verse is 22, but if you read all the way to 33 you get the other half.

Wives are told to submit to their husbands, AND husbands are told to love their wives "as Christ loved the church." Submitting "as to the Lord" is a tall order, but loving as Christ loved is an even taller one. Both are used to say that marriage should be an example of perfect love and submission between two people, thus making them one flesh. And one flesh seems pretty equal.

The passage ends with it stated more simply: "However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband."

It's tricky because of trigger words and associations, as well as talking to people who lived in a different time with different social rules, but in general I think the passage makes sense as recommending how to be in a "good martial relationship" based on Christ's relationship with the church.

[Desconhecida]

Let me share some wisdom from my late grandmother: Men are the head of the house, yes. But us, women, are the neck. And the neck turns the head to any direction whenever it wants.

[MzAsh]

No, men and women are equal but you can do what you want.

[DC_Underground]

In religion, it allows women to work, have a career, be independent and etc. Yes, under certain conditions or circumstances under religious rules a woman or a girl needs a man to be there for her. Not to oppress her but to protect her. I mean if any girl reads this, here is an example, if you have a few night classes on campus and you have to walk through a shady part of the campus would you want to be alone or for a guy friend to be there for you so you get to your destination safely (ie: to your car in an empty parking lot or to the subway or bus). That's what religion refers to when it comes to men being there for women. Women are allowed to travel alone as long as it safe for her to do so. Religion through God's words doesn't say "a woman must cook a hot meal for her husband every night at 6pm and be his slave".

Religion has been hijacked by extremists following government or political ideology. If we view people in society that make the Republicans look bad, or Democrats look bad, or people of different colours or races or religion look bad this is based on those people not an entire group based off perception. I think people need to change that narrative and allow women and others more freedom. I may sound like a hypocrite because as a guy its quite alluring to see a beautiful girl wearing something sexy. However, a woman or a girl shouldn't feel restricted if she can't expose herself sexually all the time. I don't have a G. F and im not married so as a single guy my eyes do naturally wander but if I did have a girlfriend or a wife I wouldn't want her exposing her beautiful body for the entire world to see. I cook, I clean, so I am willing to do other housework to help her out.

In terms of the money situation, I don't mind if a girl earns more than me, and that does not mean I would mooch off her. I have a masters in public policy and working for the government so I would do my own thing. But as long as she's okay with me making less (ex: I make $75,000k/yr, while she makes $90,000k/yr) again I am ok with that as long as she is. If I had a wife and she said, "I want to travel with my family so Spain" and I couldn't go with her because of my work obligations then I would allow her? Why should I restrict her? Why should she obey me? The only obeying one should do is to God and that's it.

[JustTheTrue]

This is the thing. I’m a Christian believer.


Anyways, to me a relationship should be equal. A man is the provider and he should be the one supporting the house and I’m not saying a women should stay home and not work. Yes, she can work too because like I said we both equals, but if she doesn’t want to. She doesn’t have to.


Now when it comes to having kids. I rather prefer that they should be raised by the mother (wife) in that case, but I won’t push her to do it, but I’m sure I will explain her the reason why I prefer that. That’s because kids learn more value/morals when they are around their parents or being raised by respectful parents and I wasn’t raised by mom when I was a kid and trust me a 5-6 years old always miss their parents and having the mom is enough to fulfill the kids happiness as mothers can shown more affection than their dad and kids wants affection. Now when they start growing they don’t want to be around their parents that much in that case if the mother (wife) wants to stay home or work. She can decide on what to do.


Another thing, this is when it comes when you don’t have kids. I myself don’t expect a woman to cook for me as I can cook on my own and if I cook I don’t mind cooking for her either. I’m her partner and I shouldn’t expect her to cook me all the times or to do the laundry because we are partner and we are supposed to help each other and support each other. Keep in mind even thought I don’t go to church I do have the Christian values that I was raised with.


One thing I don’t understand is why everyone assume that Christian guys are sexist. My uncle who is an atheist and extreme left leaning is one of the most sexist guys I know. He doesn’t know how to cook and if no one cook for him, he won’t eat because he doesn’t know how to cook. Lol

[errorgoodnameunfound]

Most religion is based on tradition and is more similar to rules of the stone ages. That's why they often refer to irrelevant things like counting cattle or the amount of oil that shall be used for whatever purpose. Therefore, it's going to stick to old values and those that find appeal to that will as well. In modern times, many of the rules make zero sense, while others do. But then again, it's difficult to decide all together which ones to pay attention to. That's why you have Christians that are wonderful like the band members in Skillet and those that are awful like Kenneth Copeland.

As one girl pointed out here, raising children in a household where 80% of the time the women are with the kids or if anything the sons often leads to rebellion. It did for me. It did for many friends. And parents get MAJOR hurt as these rebellious kids grow older and then do stupid things not even 100% because they want to, but simply because they are showing their anger towards bad parenting. Saw it many times as people I knew
-dropped outta high school
-got pregnant at 18
-got screwed over by abusive relationships/are still in abusive relationships
-cheat on people bc they want to prove their sexual rebellion
-end up in BAD divorces/breakups

The list goes on and on. I doubt most religions approve of any of these things very much. So the point is when following Christianity or really, any ideology, listen to what is said, but use your fucking brain, as if you believe in god, they gave it to you for a reason.

[Hogwheels]

I do believe men are the heads of the household and wives are too be submissive, however I think headship is a position of servitude. They're not in charge so they can take advantage. Its kind of like that common fictional situation with a man and wife where she thinks they should purchase a new washer and he thinks they should purchase workout equipment so she let's him choose to see if he sacrifices for her and buys the washer. A good husband buys the washer. Wives submit to their husbands so their husbands can buy the washer. Unfortunately, most men don't see their leadership as servitude. And a wife's submission comes from a choice to submit. Not because they have to, but because they want to.

This also isn't about ability. Men aren't more capable of leading a relationship than women. Women are just as capable, but it's the position God chose for men. I can't claim to understand why he chose that.

As a man who hasn't always been a Christian, I understand why non-Christians would be revolted by this, but as a Christian, I know God has said this is what a healthy marriage looks like. And if anyone who claimed to be Christian was revolted by this, its because they aren't worshiping the true God. They're worshiping a fictious God that they would prefer.

[VanillaSalt]

Who cares what the Bible says. Fact is too many people in charge breaks an organizations ability to work effectively. Like government.


In my home I am the king and my wife is my advisor. If and when we can afford that vacation she’s always wanted. How I run my house. Now don’t get me wrong her opinion is every bit as important as mine however I make the final decision and here’s why.


I work on average 70 hours a week to provide for my family. If I have to go without so they don’t I will. If someone breaks into my home my wife will be in the bathroom with the kids and the 9mm. I will be out there with the 12 gauge. I keep my home running wether it be plumbing, roofing, electrical, DIY, and any physical labor required.


If my family fails it’s because I failed them. Nobody will say it was my wife it will have been me that failed. If a fight breaks out and both me and my wife got aggressive I will go to jail not her. If she leaves I will be forced by law to share half our wealth of which probably 70% was mine through purchase, hard work, and upkeep. The kids will almost definitely be assigned to her at the divorce hearing.


Marriage takes freedom in return for companionship, financial stability, and someone that is always there regardless what you need. Men benefit less from marriage then women do. On the contrary marriage these days is dangerous for men.

[Phoenix98]

In the biblical sense and how the bible talks about it yes.

But the thing is a lot of people misinterpret what the bible is talking about. It's not talking about being submissive in the way people think it is. It doesn't mean that a woman would be a servant to her husband where he imposes all sorts of authorities and dictatorships on her.

What the Bible actually means is that, a man who loves his wife and household, can be the leader - through his protector's role.

And the bible also clearly states for husbands to live with their wives in a understanding way and for husbands to love their wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.

And if you remember Christ loved God and the church and gave his life for him and it's in that same way God expects to love our wives. It also states each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband and likewise the husband needs to respect the wife and her opinions as well.

People get so caught up in stupid trigger words like submissive or submit, etc that they fail to see the actual meaning of those words.

@Psychoanalytical Stated it very well and I also agree with what he said.

[Jamie05rhs]

Kinda/ sorta/ it depends. I don't follow it religiously as a hard rule. I'm very open-minded and flexible on this one.

I do see myself as a natural-born leader (not as a man, but because of who I am.). I take initiative and organize things. I make sure stuff gets done. And I'm a visionary; I plan for the future. I'm also good at giving directions in a polite and friendly way (for example, with my coworkers.)

I think I would do a good job as the head of the household. I truly do. But I hesitate to say that publicly because girls are gonna be like "Eeek! He's a narcissist. He's patriarchal. He's misogynistic. He wants to oppress me." (None of which is true.)

The truth is that I am an egalitarian and I believe in partnership and teamwork. And I see women as equal to men, and I want my wife to be my equal. And I don't claim to know everything or be the best at everything. So, while I gravitate toward being a leader in general, and I kind of want that, tbh, I do NOT want to be a dictator and boss my wife around and make decisions without her input.

I hope all of that makes sense. Please ask if you have any questions.

[Snakeyes7]

I think you are taking the Bible out of context. Here is what it really says (Ephesians 5:21-33 NIV):



Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— for we are members of his body. “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.” This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

[lucas262]

Yes. I belive its natural for women to submit to men who are capable of leading. I belive its where most women feel safest and happiest.

But more than that its the structure of family God gave us.

Note tho this is a man submitting to God.
And his woman if she submits to God will submit to her husband.

The good book explains what it means to be a husband and its a heavy responsibility.

You find a man that can take up that role, he deserves your respect.

Christ said to love your wife as he loved the church and gave himself for it.

You find a man submitting to God in his role as the husband you that man is worth your respect and submission.

Tho its never about being served for either of them its about leading and following. When a woman can manage to find a capable man who can lead in life and the relationship following becomes natural.

As iv said many men today are not taught to be men and that isn't how God ever meant it to be. And no we're not equal or better than each other we are different, with different roles and responsibilities 1 for the other.

God made the woman to complete the man, and even he said it was not good for man to be alone. He needs a help meet. Or life companion/partner

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

I disagree with men the idea that only men are the head of the household and that women should submit and obey, especially in 2021. First, women are adults with our own responsibilities. For this reason, many women can't submit to their husbands because many women today already "submit" to the trials and tribulations of everyday life. We don't live in a time where we are practically unable to fully provide for ourselves and rely on our husbands for financial support. In addition, completely submitting to your husband could potentially result in abusive, manipulating, and controlling relationships. Thus, the best thing for couples to do in the current society is to respect each other's adulthood, maintain their adult responsibilities to help each other out when needed, and always work together to provide for the children if they have them.

[wmasters]

I believe that men and women are equal but in different ways. My preferences would be that we are both heads of the household but we just complement each other based on our natures. I protect her, she nurtures me. Naturally, It's within me to provide for her regardless of what money she has as she mothers and nutures our child and I would rather her not work have to work. She can stay home and focus on our child. When you plant a seed you want to water and protect it. Same applies here. So yea.. We're both heads of the household.

[kimmi862]

I used to believe that the man was the head of the house and the woman is the man's rib. But we have to realised that in the Bible women didn't get jobs and marriage was more of a family wealth or business transaction. That is why a man would have wives and concubines. But today women are voting, working and in homes usually have more insight on what is financially needed in the house (if they stay at home with the kids). So I no longer believe that a woman is a man's body part, there may be things I know more than the man and I will be more of the decider in it and there may be things he is more knowledgeable on and he can me the decider on that. If there is a disagreement on how things should be done, then a lot of discussions/arguments/research can be done and usually common sense prevails and mot the gender.

[Little_Bumblebee]

No, I view marriage, and a relationship in general to be a partnership.

Granted, some might have a power dynamic, and some might prefer it that way. But just because you're a woman, doesn't say anything about whether you should be submissive or not. It's not gender specified.

It's all about what you're the most comfortable with and what works for you.
You prefer a relationship with the man being HoH (head of household) or where the woman is HoH, then that's fine, as both are happy with that.
I prefer an equal partnership myself.

And I don't support the whole "submit and obey" - thing.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

! WARNING! THIS TEXT IS SENSITIVE!
I believe that the text in the bible is not interpreted correctly. I consider and agree with the submission of the woman but not as a servant or a slave and everything the man says is law.
Women generally do not have the desire for power, control and cannot make cold blooded decisions if needed.
By submissive woman, I mean a woman who supports her man who helps her make the best decisions and if these are not always the case, the man should take on the role of leader and assume the consequences.
It is ugly and degrading for men to oppress a woman in this way. Saying that she must obey and that they have no say.
The interpretation must be used behind any strong man is a strong woman.

[Cof1412]

Nope, that ship sailed long ago. I don't care who is earning the money, who makes more money, etc., or the genders. As I see it, my wife and I entered into a partnership with marriage, which means we are both working together and are equal when it comes to our household and making decisions. We try to work together to compromise and decide what's best for us and our family. We have 3 boys. I would be horrified if they believed they needed to listen to me more than my wife because I am a man or if they thought I was "better" because of my gender. And yes, I am a Christian who regularly goes to church in non-COVID times and at least watches it in times of COVID.

[soleil2000]

Not in such sharp terms - the wiring is such that loving someone keeps you motivated and doing your best. In that sense, the relationship should be king, not either of the two.
We are not equal - women expect privilege and thus put themselves on a pedestal. What us worse is they then declare the poor sucker a loser and milk and denigrate him while cheating twice to show off to their collapsing narcissist female friends how cunning they can be.
All of that ends in tears and heartbreak but the spoiled pre-2000 born girls keep doing it (probablybbecause since Chernobyl and until 2001, the world was a total chaotic mess on the brink of nuclear destruction, so they grew up totally freaked out and in blind panic they try to hide)

[Jaximus-Lion]

We are equal my dear. There is things i control and there is things where the Mrs control. The bible do say that the women must comply and be submissive to their husbands but at the same time the husband had to take care of his woman and keep her safe. I have met Mormons and they make me feel sick, i was born and raised in Iraq and islam does the same thing. A woman can't be a '' YES '' woman all the time 24/7 and those who explain the bibles this way are idiots. Next time you meet such idiots tell them to read the aramic bible explanation and to understand the god's word, not twist it so they can justify having wives as slaves

[Dazed0N0Confused]

The Bible says a lot of fucking bullshit. That women are nothing more than breeding tools and should be slaves to their husbands. That anyone who isn't a WHITE LAND OWNER WITH A PENIS is beneath them and is like cattle.
The Bible says that a woman can be sold to their rapist, and is subservient to her husband.
Religion is an OPPRESSOR. Anyone who can't see it should read the Bible straight through and see for themselves instead of picking and choosing what scripts are important. It's disgusting that people who want equality believe in something oppressive. Religion is the main cause of war, inequality, slavery, oppression, racism & terrorism to name a few.
It's disgusting

[CubsterShura]

I have mixed feelings, because no matter how much people talk about how the dynamic between husband and wife should be, I feel like in practice it varies from couple to couple.

And I know for myself that I cannot be the submissive obedient type, if anything I might be somewhat dominant. I am very respectful and loyal in my relationships but I can't picture myself in this dynamic where I am beneath him just because of my gender. The only matter in which I can see myself being obedient with no questions is money-related stuff in case he is the sole provider for my family, because in that case he is the one working his ass off to provide for us so it makes sense so let him have the upper hand on financial matters. I would still let him know my opinions but even if his final decision is not my favorite I will accept it. Otherwise, he really has to make me genuinely want to take his lead.

Ain't nobody gonna lead me just because he got a dick, he has to have that brain too.

[ObscuredBeyond]

To an extent. As a tie-breaker. But men are asked to love their wives as Christ loves the church. Which means only playing the trump card when absolutely necessary. Always weigh her input when making a decision, and don't lord over her without just cause. A captain is expected to weigh input from the first mate. But two captains sink a ship. It's a delicate balancing act , and requires that neither be ego-driven. Women are easily corrupted by envy, and men by insecurity, as Genesis 3 makes clear. This is why we so often fail to achieve the balance.

[Lionman95]

Yes it´s biblical but it´s nothing a husband can make his wife do. The Bible also says that the man should love his wife as Christ loved the church, which led to the Cross.
Don´t get it wrong a woman submitting doesn´t mean she´s a slave. Yes there is such a thing as christian domestic discipline online where the man spanks his wife for his failures but that´s not how I understand that.
I understand the man leading his wife more in a spiritual way less as deciding everything. A woman is neither an object nor is slave in a biblical way. She´s created equally she may have a different role but that doesn´t mean she´s seen in the Bible as dumb and not being able to decide for herself.

[Anonymous]

Well, it depends on the couple, doesn't it? In most relationships there is a dominant personality and a submissive personality, and it makes sense that the dominant one should lead, whether male or female.

I have always found it interesting how most women view this issue today. Most women are attracted to more dominant guys who are natural leaders, but then once they get in a relationship with one they don't want him to be the leader.

Ladies, if you want a dominant leader for a boyfriend or husband, let him lead or there will be relationship troubles.

[jgokgotit]

There is a huge misconception that the Bible puts women underneath men. That is not the case. The Bible talks about how both the man and woman are equal partners. What the Bible is referring to about wives submitting to their husbands is in the sense that the man is the spiritual leader of the family. This means it is the man's job to ensure his family follows God's commands and the woman is to assist him in this mission because he cannot do it alone. People need to quit taking a few verses of the Bible out of context. One or two verses does NOT tell the entire chapter.

[DJB72]

Your options make an assumption that the English translation is 100% accurate of the original languages.

It isn't.

When St Paul wrote about relationship dynamics in marriage he actually teaches mutual submission. Men are instructed to love their wives exactly how Christ loved the church. If you look at the Gospels and how Christ laid down His life for us, the Church, that is a standard of behaviour far beyond what Paul says women should do.

[goodgear01]

The biblical directive that the husband should be the head of the wife should not be looked at in isolation from all the other instructions. The bible has a lot to say about love and understanding. Being head of the household was never meant to be an unfair privilege. It was meant to be a responsibility. In fact the husband was meant to be the primary source of love in a marriage. When we think about equality we should consider that not all things were meant to be equal either in nature or in relationships. Equality is usually linked with fairness and justice. However inequality is not necessarily the enemy of fairness and justice. Different roles in life actually necessitate inequality. My first wife did not want to use the word "obey" in her marriage vows. My second wife didn't care. I am easy-going and I have never demanded obedience from either of my wives. The difference here is about attitude. Anyway my second marriage has lasted longer than my first.
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[psychoticanimallover]

In marriage, yes of course. That’s the foundation that marriage is based upon, and we shouldn’t change that to fit our own modern agenda. If you keep poking and prodding at an institution for long enough, eventually it will crumble like cheese.

Do I think women should ever enter into a marriage? Of course not.

[Alyssa11]

I don't think women should be submissive to men, but I think that we are very different beings and our roles are not the same in society or in a household.

None is better than the other. We are just very different. Women can give birth, but men cannot. A child cannot be born without both. You see my point? This is a biological clue into the different roles we have.

It's a bit like the yin yang duo. Masculine energy and feminine energy form the foundations to life.

[Alpha09]

Personally for me no, most of us are way past that. But if someone wants to conduct thier marriage that way then that's thier business. However I was raised in the church and the women in some relationships where clearly not allowed to really speak on anything or have a say in any way, simply because thier husband's let it go to thier heads. Watch out for those.

[SphynxUK]

I haven’t read the bible, neither am I particularly religious.
However, there’s no way I’d obey any man (or woman, if I was that way inclined!)
I support and look after my other half, as he does me. I don’t want a doormat to do my bidding, and I know he wouldn’t like either!

[Ruenella_]

A lot of people live carnally and will say that women shouldn't submit to their husbands because that's just the way of the flesh---it only desires to satisfy itself, but when you live in the spirit as God commands us to, then you will want to serve others (everyone) and submitting won't be a problem, especially to your spouse.

I believe that women should submit to their husbands. The Lord has designed us specifically for different roles, which is evident from the way each gender acts and looks. He has order for everything and it's up to us to obey that because He knows what's best and only wants the best for His children. And it doesn't matter what century we're living in, God is the same yesterday, today and forever, and His word will always stand as law.

[silkjames]

First of all it's 2021 the 21 century I think women and men should be equals together under there castle and my past relationships it depended on the woman I was with I asked her if she was cool on handling the bills I would give my paycheck too her too handle whatever needed too be done and IDC what she did with her paychecks that's me not everything is about money I care about the perfection and love that we have for each other lol but that's me that's my opinion:)

[karolaga]

No. As husband and wife they both have to be responsible for their financial situation. It's understandable that one has a higher income and pay for more things , that doesn't mean this person will play a dominant role. both parts are a team and to make it work they have to think as one.

[worldscolide]

It depends. It should be her choice. If that's the kind of life she wants then yes, if its not then no.

I might be the head of the house by the way, but my wife is the boss at home because she runs it, cleans it, takes care of it. Where as i work 60 to 70 hours per week. That is the kind of life she chose.

In most cases where the man is head of household, Both are equal, but both have different responsibilities.

[Wewladdy]

You can't be a Christian tranny. The Bible literally states that men wearing feminine clothing is an abomination and that God made man and woman alone. He didn't make xe/xir or man who thinks he's female and woman who thinks she's female. You are a filthy liar.

[art84]

As a Christian I think a man should be the head of the household, if he is the one who is supporting the household by going to work and providing. If both the man and women are providing for the household then they should both have equal say in a lot of things like finances, etc.

I know my mom was the head of the table since my dad never wanted to be the man of house. Every decision ran through her and she would just get my father's ok on things like cable for example. I just feel if my dad was the head, he wouldn't be good with running the house. My mom does a great job with the finances and how the money is used.

[Just_Me89]

I'm Catholic and I believe marriage is partnership and both people should be equal; of course there are going to be situations where one person may be better equipped to handle than the other and they should take the lead in those times, but no one should be forced to obey or feel lesser in the relationship.

[LeoElias]

It depends on the couple and their beliefs. Some people want that life style and others don't. Some want a little bit of both but not completely everything. Personally, I don't mind some submissive attitudes. If she can let go and let me take over decisions, let me handle things and trust ill do it right. But she doesn't have to be this slave to me lol

[Anonymous]

I suspect many couples equalise responsibility and power in some fashion even if it doesn't look that way in the outside.
But I'm not actively Christian.
Maybe your peers just mean they respect their husbands which appears to be frowned upon by 'enlightened' society now (thus the high divorce rate maybe).

[JoshMacDonald]

It says in the bible that a man should love his wife the way Christ loved the church, to the point that he would be willing to die for her. The bible does say that a woman should submit to her husband but it also says that a man should submit to his wife as well.

[bamesjond0069]

I mean unless you try it you won't know.

Depression anxiety hysteria drama on the girls side... all this essentially disappears from the relationship. On the mens side responsibility, romance, respect goes way up. And for both the sexual attraction goes way way up.

After having had a few relationships this way i think its pointless to do anything else.

[Juxtapose]

I am an atheist but if you follow Christianity, that is indeed what the Bible says. The man is supposed to leave the household in a woman is supposed to submit, because women are inferior to men in the eyes of Christianity. (NOT TO ME, I'M AN ATHEIST).

[pingiluv]

I’m Christian and nope, definitely not agree with that. Men and women are equal in the New Testament. I don’t have time to point out where but it also stems from what was common back then. Women should be beside their husbands not behind them

[DesolateRain]

No, communication from both sides are needed for a healthy relationship.

Having the guy having the word of everything and the women to just sit there and not say a damn thing sounds like a horrible relationship.

[Wowboi]

This kind of bullshit that common inexperienced people stay busy with is the reason we can't even get out of covid. Why in the heck would you let your ego dectate your marriage 🤦🏽‍♂️ does being a head of the household get you a medal. No. Being a head of the house means taking care of the bills and making sure its condition is maintained. If id that's what your ego is missing go ahead, you deal with the landlord and the energy suppliers and the maintenance (plumbing, electric, garden work etc) we'll happily ablige. Also make sure you don't neglect your kids and physical need. Often men have enough weights on their shoulders and this is the type of bullshit that lead us to think you were never meant to be marriage material. Drama queens! Always some bloody stupid mind games over some shit that benefits noone in the family but your self esteem. Selfish creatures

[Mystic_Nova]

No, equal. Girls where not born from the back of a man to be behind him. Nor the heel, so shed be beneath him. We are made of the rib, to stand as their side as equals.

Men who think women are beneath them are egomaniacs and aren't worth being husbands or fathers

[Static_In_The_Attic]

It takes to to tango as they say & when it comes to a relationship it takes two as well. Two people meet, two people fall in love, two people start a relationship, two people move into together, two people might get married, two people might buy a house together & when it comes to the head of the household that’s a job for two people in my book.

[Inquisitive3]

This is the reason I completely reject the bible now. Before I used to think of it as a book with a lot of wisdom, now I see it a tool of suppression. Imagine today some religion saying certain races weren't equal to other races. Screw that! All people are equal.

[Anonymous]

NO.

When she does pull same weight in providing for family or when she brings more husband should submit to her.

Where it comes to traditional roles, I have nothing against it, but when all those brainwashed feminazis come in they see it as oppression or whatever they call it now...

[Whatever919]

I believe that the man should lead ( means leader not boss ).
I don't look at it as submission. my girl is my support in leading the family. It's not master and slave relationship.
It's really funny when it's the husband they call her submissive but when she work her boss gives her orders and she pays tax that's not submission? Lol.
Also when that man leads he has responsibilities towards his woman does that make him submissive?

[Hannah_98]

I don't think so. If that's how they both want to live, then that's fine. I just don't think women should HAVE to be submissive.

Frankly, in my opinion, the bible is just a book and nothing more. What's in it has no more standing with me than something like Harry Potter.

[Tenma]

In my opinion, Both partners in a marriage are like two wheels. In order to move safely and steadily, both have to make efforts. Either the money is earned by men or earned by women it doesn't matter. The roles can be reversed but there should be a proper balance. Also only men can't run the marriage smoothly, he need the support of his wife and vice versa

[HikerDude]

Yes, I absolutely believe that men should be the leaders in relationships and women should follow. But it's not the woman's job to submit, it's the man's job to take charge and give the woman the confidence that her trust in his leadership won't be abused. Women need to be open to submission, but they should make the man prove every which way that he's worthy of that.

[Not_Average]

How do you rationalize or justify being gay and Christian? Genuine question. I really don’t know too much about this topic, but I’m seeing more and more gay Christians. I’m curious.

[loveslongnails]

Define equal please. If you're talking about basic respect, etc, then yes. But I've never a relationship where one person didn't primarily lead. So if you wouldn't mind, please define "equal" so I can better answer the question.

[Reivel]

I think marriage or be woth someone is It is a matter of two people and they have to be equal in the relationship, the woman should not be submissive to her husband, it seems to me a too retrograde thought

[DizzyDesii]

Your house, your rules. But if its OUR house then we both have a say so and will both take turns playing a dominant and submissive role.

[menina]

No both should be equal. A relationship is made by two people not by one who makes the other feel bad.

[Gedaria]

Yes , but , one part that is usually over looked is it also said just as Jesus is the head of the congregation.
He didn't bully be over bearing pushing his weight around. He nurtured his disciples protected, and gave his life for it.