Do you think providing for a woman should still be a standard upheld by men in relationships today?

[AncientWisdom]

No I also think men should stop getting married and having children too. Until the laws are changed that are biased against men in court.
In todays society if a woman says it then the court will believe her with no evidence except her statement.
There are over 1 million divorces every single year in the United States. Well over 800,000 are initiated by women. Where 98% of the time she will win and be awarded all of the man’s belongings , house, car , bank accounts , and his children. She will then move her fuckboy in or the man she has been seeing behind her husbands back , and that dude will be living in your house servicing your ex wife and taking money and food out of your children's mouth. Screw that how is that a good deal.
This is why according to the CDC men are killing themselves in record number in the good ole USA. 78% of all suicides are men. Most of these are committed because a female woke up one day and decided she was bored with this and by golly I’m a princess and I deserve better. She tells her girlfriends who don’t say “no doll try to work it out. “ instead they circle the wagons and have a powwow hyping her up. “Yeah you do deserve better fuck that dude “ and whatever else they say. So the man decides fuck this I’m not paying that women and her dude who gave effectively stolen his life. . So he goes to jail or tries to fight hits a legal wall , becomes frustrated and eats a bullet or does a jig on the end of a rope. However he does it. That women caused that man to Kill himself because he saw no way out of his sorrow.
Also this is a leading cause of husbands killing their wives or ex wives. I’m not saying that is right but I understand it. Some men are not wired to allow that and will pay the price for ending the female with a smile on his face. Agian I don’t condone that , but I understand.

Women do not want equality any longer. The first wave of feminism wasn’t about equality for all women. It was for the equality of white women. The only wave of feminism that was really about equality was the women of the late 60 s and 70s they were fighting for rights. I don’t blame them and I’m glad they got them.
Modern feminism is about destroying masculinity in men , and usurping it for women. They want it all. They are getting worried too. A discussion has started with traditional females who embrace true femininity and men. Feminists are also disavowing the feminist movement in record numbers. They become aware it’s not about equality it’s about hate , spiteful mess and jealousy. There’s even papers written that it’s penis envy. They are even
Mad at their biology subconsciously for some , and up front and in your face for others.
It’s almost over ladies. Men and women have noticed the sickness of it.
It’s also estimated in numerous studies that over 40% of men in jail and prison for crimes against women both violent and sexual are innocent. As the women are using the law to get rid of pesky man. To say a man did something sexual is the easiest way to get rid of one. Women are masters at being social. They are also masters of social assassination as many women who have experienced that can tell you. Men definitely know this.
If men stop getting married and stop making babies , this will change so fast it would be mind boggling. The government has to have marriage and children. It’s good for society and civilization. Many men are , marriage and birth is down in the US.

[BeMuse]

Men never provided for women. There was just a division of labor. Men did what they could and women did what they were able to do. Everyone did hard labor in the agrarian age. There were no dish washers to do your dishes, there were no washer machines to wash your clothing, there were no driers to dry your clothes, clothes were all made of cotton so they had to always be ironed, there were no driers so clothes had to be hung outside, people had to plant their own crops and harvest their own food generally with hand tools, people had to preserve/can their foods for winter because there was no refrigeration, people had to hall water by bucket on their backs, they had to make candles because there was no electricity for light, fire had to be kept to keep a home warm and to cook a meal, so on and so forth. There was shit tons of labor to do and women had to do tons of it just to survive... With the rise of the industrial age, many men traveled to cities to work in factories for extra currency to trade more easily for things they didn't produce on their own homestead. Women kept doing the hard labor at home, and men did it in their off hours and on weekends. The post industrial age created a bunch of gadgets to do work for people removing much of that burden, men got more into the service based economy and got educated. For a brief moment women got a somewhat free ride with reduced labor at home through modern innovation, but within a generation they were also getting educated and working service based careers. Men providing for women is a myth. Everyone has to work to survive. The nature of the work that men and women do all depends on how technology advances.

[Amy10223]

I'm sure that there are plenty of women who do as you describe, use men for free money when they entrap them with pregnancy, but you need to understand that not all women are like this. There are also men who hang onto women for support and to live with and have no jobs. In other words, leeches.
There are always the same kind of people of either sex. however I find you words also interesting. Why do you think women are thought to be special because of their gender? As a woman myself, I have always thought it was a "Man's world" and that women have to fight to be smarter and stronger (in ability) in order to fit in or at least be respected. You don't know what it is to be a woman in this world. An example: women were;t given the right to vote until the 1920's. Women can't drive in certain countries and always have to be accompanied by male siblings wherever they go. Women have to take the surname of their husbands (now a choice). Women are not paid the SAME salary as men, even with the same jobs! I am proof of that. A man I worked with, who had the same number of years working as me, the same degree--was earning more than I was. So there is no equal pay in the workforce.
Look at the past presidents. Never has there been a woman president before, and it's a miracle we have one now as vice president.
So, looking at all my examples--what do you have to say about providing for a woman?

[EmyyWolf]

I’ve always been of the belief that both the man and the woman should have their own money and make their own money. It’s should be an EVEN and EQUAL thing.

When a man wants to be the sole provider of the house; he can easily have full control over her and basically keep her imprisoned at her home with him. Because now she is fully dependent on him.

Everyone should be fully responsible of making their own money. ________

NOW.., to answer the rest of your question. Yes. In this day and age a lot of attractive women feel like they are entitled to a man's wealth because they are in a relationship with him. These women are lazy slobs hiding in a gorgeous princess body. These women are perfect targets to abusive men who like I mentioned “want to imprison them in their own home”. There are also the lazy VILE EVIL slobs who will bring a child into the world simply to earn checks and money from both the father and the government. Thereby bringing the child into a terrible situation, and also victimizing the father.

[Apple1996]

Yes at least in situations where the woman is a stay at home mom. If not then the woman should also be working

[Dinklex3]

I think that encouraging others to be independent is great.
Especially since we can "work" now.
To each their own though.
If the couple decides they want the man or woman to be the provider in their relationship, then that's their decision.

"have the ground they walk on worshipped cause of their gender even tho they don't really do much in comparison"
That's a huge generalization and to claim "we don't do as much"? What does that even mean, lol. Don't get with women who only want you for your money then and stop blaming us as a whole.

[Anonymous]

I believe so. I know some won’t agree, but men and women are wired different. Men are good at providing and protecting their families and women are good at nurturing and taking care of their families.



He’s the king of the household, but she’s the queen running the empire. She’s good at knowing the kids schedules, being involved in most aspects of the children's lives, maintaining the home, packing for trips/vacations, knowing what her baby needs, taking care of her husband, multitasking, cooking, planning events, etc. Many times the family cannot survive without her.


Even if she works, many women still tend to take on more household responsibilities then men because it is built in them to take care of domestic duties.


So a man should financially provide knowing that his wife does all this for him, out of love, so that they can have a comfortable life. And most men want to provide for the right woman.

[mobiusforniner]

This is nothing new. Of course there are diggers out there who will do this. If you're attracted to such women, then that is, more or less; a reflection on your own quality. From experience, most women I've dated weren't attracted to me to leech off my "wealth". Some were even insistent on reciprocating and paying for things for me. Not all women are trying to eat your wallet and this mindset will leave you forever single.

That being said, I do believe men should shoulder fiscal responsibilities in a relationship. I'm all for equality and such. But when your wife/girlfriend becomes pregnant and carriers YOUR child- the reality is- it's YOUR responsibility to man up and take care of YOUR child. My wife chose not to work when she became pregnant. I fully supported that because my love for wife and my unborn son was more important to me than making sure my wife carried her "equal load". She was already carrying my son. What the hell more could I want?

[spuitkaas]

I don't see how we're worshipped, when we're literally not respected as individuals by many men but okay.
I don't think we should expect from either gender to provide for the other. I think the best way to have a relationship is when two well-rounded individuals spend life together. Only thing to provide to provide to eachother is love, affection and loyalty.
Other than that, sure you can give and take in many things in a relationship. One gives more financially, the other in household work or emotional labour, since people won't be equal, but it's not bound to gender or expected beforehand.

[Anonymous]

Here's the problem with that my man: It's the equivalent of chicks saying "hey why do we need to wear makeup, and shave our legs and pits?" You can SAY that but competition is a reality that's going to kick you right in the ass. Are broke cheap dudes who have no ability or willingness to provide for a chick going to get a hot one? Well, do fat hairy feminists get great men? No and no. So you see, as always, this isn't some battle between "men" and "women." There are two battles going on: One is between you and other men for the best women and the other is amongst women for the best men.

Having said all of that it also pays to remember the old adage: if it flys, floats or fucks, it's cheaper to rent it.

[Anonymous]

It's called a "partnership" for a reason. Yes I'm well aware of how so many are into day's society. Women are attracted to a guy for 2 things 1. His attractiveness 2. His assets. And if you don't have the first you better have the second.
Here's the problem, I'm not attractive, but I have worked hard and now I have considerable assets. And I have no interest in trading me being her meal ticket for her faux-affection. But I do enjoy watching these old used up slags try now. It's true what they say. Life really does begin at 40. 🤣

[Star_88]

Just say that you hate women and want to have all in one package who will be both your personal domestic slave but also the hardworking CEO at the same time.
You 'so called men' STILL complain, get jealous and try to tear a woman down if she is independent and doesn't wants any children!
You pass judgements like : career crazy bitches will end up alone in life, men need submissive woman, no man wants a woman who doesn't wants to look after home and kids?
YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS!

[Shy80sgirl]

I can see your point about using children to garner family wealth as valid. I am the higher wage earner in our household, but I do know that if something were to happen with my career, my husband would step up and take the reins and make sure we stayed afloat. Right now, he does the bulk of running the kids around and taking care of most household tasks while earning income during school hours.

[Elise888888]

I think being able to provide for a woman and your kids should be a standard kept; in addition to the woman being able to already prove for herself. Meaning; a man should seek to BE ABLE to provide for his wife; but the wife should be able to ALSO care for herself and be independent. Same goes for the man. Both things are important in a partnership.

[lightbulb27]

The fundamental issues here seem like trust and security. I believe cultural heritages solved these things which are called traditional values.


Beyond that… today… I think it’s a partnership where they both contribute and 60 40 should work. I think at home parenting should be valued.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Using children to trap men? What do you mean, are you accusing women of raping men or lying about taking birthcontrol pill, otherwise women can't force men to have kids in order to trap men? Not wearing condom or not caring about birthcontrol can cause kids that need your protection and mental/financial support. So of course you have to take care of kids and so child support is child right. You dont have to marry by the way and everyone have different preferences. Some men are traditional and so want to be provider and some men prefere working women who pay their own things and pay half of the bills.

[Anonymous]

No I do not. One of the great things about being a woman in the modern era is that you can provide financially for yourself completely independently of a man. That makes it much more possible for you to date purely for love and not for money.
My boyfriend is in graduate school and makes very little money. I have an established career and make a ton more than him. I don't think there's anything morally wrong with that. Even though I don't need him financially there are a ton of other ways that I truly do need him.

[Subarugirl]

Well first of all no, each relationship is unique as are the dynamics with in that relationship, most adults do not want to have to be dependent on someone else.
When it come to being apparent, if the man didn’t want to have to pay child support he should take responsibility for his reproductive system and not knock up some chick he doesn’t want to coparent with. It takes two to make a baby and both should be responsible for that child.

[Jasmine-Darkfire]

I have never felt worshipped by men following me around, I felt afraid. I think everyone should be self independent, depending on someone else, such as a man means he can remove that at any time he wants either by choice or indirectly if he loses his job.

I plan on being fully independent and will not need to be provided for or provide for anyone.

[Anonymous]

When you find someone that you want to be with long term, I imagine the two of you will work out what works for you. There's no particular duty to provide for her but if that's what works, then fine
This is a very equal and peaceful time in history. Perhaps they feel comfortable enough to focus more on themselves and their needs. Whether they would feel so secure and self interested in less certain times remains to be seen.
What to do? Believe in yourself, ignore the chatter.

[Anonymous]

Here's the thing. Women claim to want equality, but they really don't. They want power and privilege. They always had those, but they want more. They want the same ones they always had and the ones that men have.
Nobody is arguing that women should face more time incarcerated, but a woman will get a lower sentence for the same crime as a man. Men account for nearly 70% of the homeless. If women waned equality why aren't they doing anything about that? They do not complain about "toxic femininity" or a lack of "male studies" on campuses. How many government programs are there that exclude women from benefits and how many exclude men? Do they insist that there should be more female furniture movers and steelworkers?
Scratch a feminist and you will find a lying bigot underneath.

[ohshee]

Well I don't care what society says I don't care what my next door neighbor says I don't care what the preacher says it's between her and I if I married her because I love her if I love her I'm going to take care of her and make sure she has what she wants and if I have to get a second job to do that that's what I'm going to do

[PinkMichae]

We don't do as much in comparison? B. S.

The answer is no. But your reasons are b. s. Men and women contribute in different ways that in the end make us equal. Even back in the day when it was men working and women taking care of the house and children.

[shaysh87]

I don’t know what is up with all this archaic thinking about men providing for women. Do you realize most families in the Us cannot survive on 1 income? Most mothers in the US work, it’s not the 1950s.

Why don’t you jump out of your imagination and get into reality?