Alpha- muscular, tall, rich, confident, good looking.
Beta- weak, subservient, non masculine
Sigma (me) - lone Wolfe, independent, smarter, outsider who is introverted, can attract women but has gone MGTOW to work on himself.
Women will say no but men deep down inside know it's true.
Look at Andrew tate vs a fat guy working 40 hours
Bitcoin luck.
There's your key to the alpha male world bois.
You know the key is good lucks and not the money or cockiness? It’s like me saying look at Megan Fox vs a fat woman working 40hr. Men are clearly in it for the money and fame ugh. Lol.
Looks*
Nobody cars about women's money only your looks and agreeableness
But that is the point I’m making. Women will obsess over men who look good and that is the most important thing. Money and all that stuff is not the most important thing. An attractive cute guy beats an old bold rich guy any time of day.
Harvey Einstein ugly fat ass still had chicks willingly sucking his cock so no that's not true.
They'll cheat on a rich guy for good looking guy ill give you that. But when it comes to access they are equal
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Oh yeah?
And just what oh what do those sensibilities of yours think of moi? 😏
Yes, they definitely exist. People just don't like the names and classifications of such people.
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Alpha males are as real as unicorns, Santa Claus and forever-19yo blonde princesses getting dressed by singing birds every morning. What's more, the whole concept is flawed from the start since being an "alpha male" is hiding your vulnerable self behind an image of bomb-proof strenght, in order to please others and to be viewed recognized as someone who's important, big, noticeable.
In other words: the "alpha male" concept is all about being a slave to other people's perception of who you are. Tell an "alpha male" that he looks like a pathetic wimp and his ego, his fortress will shatter right away, even if he tries hard not to show it. He'll be forced one way of another to save face, to appear strong. Again, all appearances.
Real strenght (it is true for both men and women) is accepting yourself just like you are. Your strenghts, your flaws, your past, your vulnerability, your successes, your failures. It's not something you can fake and it can take years to know and accept yourself just as you are.
Everyone's human, everyone's both strong and weak, everyone's vulnerable, whether you like it or not. There's a paradox in that those who try to fit the image of what an "alpha male" is, actually prove to everyone that they're suck-ups trying hard to please.
Darwinistic and biological explanations of the human being may go someway to explain our predicament. They are partly satisfactory and have some element of truth. But we are so much more than evolved apes.
Alpha and beta also imply some kind of subscription to the social order on the part of the individuals concerned.
I'm not going to suck someone's sock just because they have a nice car and a decent job. Sometimes we can't escape social orders, but most of the time, I find I can. I'd also say there is at times a flitting between all three of the given statuses, implying a sort of fluidity in reality, depending on the context. You have your own energetic fluctuations and peaks and troughs depending on a lot of factors. Generally, if you expend a lot of energy, you can become depleted and it can take a little while for it to build up again. I find this, too. Sometimes you are passive in a situation, sometimes you are active. Sometimes it's good to be passive. Some people are so frightened of their (lack of) masculinity, eh.
Its not socially acceptable for women to use such language because it would expose them as being no more enlightened than men. They are just as basal, savage, and biologically driven as we are when you remove social conditioning and *being polite.* Statements, like "all men cheat" or "all men are trash" is them confirming the paradigm. For one to say something like this would mean that they have very little experience with men who are not like this. Dare I say, those men are invisible to these women.
These men suddenly BECOME visible to these women once they can no longer attract the same kind of man they used to when they are younger. You begin to hear things like "I want something real," "I'm tired of toxic relationships," "I want to settle down," "I'm done with my hoe phase."
Men who deny this reality spend several waking hours on Reddit per day. And aren't relevant to this conversation anyway.
No they don't exist. Alpha groupings are used by biologists to determine a pack leader in a group of animals that have a societal structure, and most importantly- there is only one. Which means if you got all the alpha male humans in an area together, most of them are just betas with delusions of grandeur.
It's a way for those that consider themselves Alpha to make them feel better about themselves. It's used as an excuse for being an asshole to other people. They're also the only group that believe in that bullshit.
Everyone just uses the term Asshole to describe "alpha" male humans.
Fun fact: the Alpha Wolf study that whole alpha/beta/sigma thing is based on? Totally flawed. So flawed the biologist who published it has spent his years following trying desperately to stop its spread of misinformation.
The "Alpha Male Wolf" was actually the birthing mother of the pups she was controlling. It had nothing to do with "alpha"ness. She was the mom!
So really, an Alpha Chad is just Mommy Energy.
(Oh also it was on wolves in captivity, acting much different from wolves in the wild, too.)
No. Turns out that in the wild “alpha” is not a thing. Many years ago someone observed a group of captive wolves forming themselves into a hierarchy and created the term “alpha male” and “beta male”. But then after seeing how wolves, apes, and other species act in the wild over decades of observation we learned that no such hierarchy gets formed and that one case of captive wolves was just an outlier. Groups of animal tend to work together where no one animal is dominant over another.
https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/the-science-of-alpha-males-in-animal-species
Alpha wolves are the parents... the children are betas... lol... so it's not like we thought. Obviously parents should always be in charge... lone wolf is just seeking a mate and his own family.
@LovingLoverReturned
Lol
Electra complex confirmed.
I could see them existing but in a civilized country with laws, it kind of keeps the alpha in check as they can't just attack the others when they refuse to comply.
Alpha- are not always muscular or rich, but they do tend to be confident, may or may not be good looking but they also have issues when I say no.
Beta- may be muscular and shy but doesn't usually push things, will easily take no for an answer but try to negotiate or convince me.
Otherwise, I haven't seen anything like you described specifically, just variations of them.
I did date a alpha guy once though who attacked every other guy who looked at me, that was not fun as the other guys could never win a fight so they got him later in very passive aggressive ways, like turning his truck upside down and burning it.
Reality check
Alpha- muscular, tall, rich, confident, good looking. > loser, douchebag, manwhore > usually abusive, demeaning, ignorant > men that sluts / whores / free prostitutes are interested in because dumb cows have no depth & less brains
Beta- weak, subservient, non masculine > average man > nothing wrong with > the typical man who is married and not looked upon with disgust by his spouse for being an "alpha" douchebag
Sigma (me) - lone Wolfe, independent, smarter, outsider who is introverted, can attract women >>> typical lone wolf, attractive, hardly an MGTOW just used by MGTOWs to explain themselves.
Absolutely but a black man is always the alpha among alpha white men.
Not all black guys have big dicks and not all white guys have small dicks
@MysteriousDarkness not all just most.
It's as real as the friendzone or high school social hierarchy. It's bullshit people classify themselves and others when they don't know where they fit in.
In reality, some days you are going to have an aggressive mindset when you want to get shit done and other days you're going to want to do nothing or associate with no one.
The ones who think of themselves as alpha are typically just assholes who think they can do or take what they want and not care what others say due to fear of looking weak. Also known as toxic masculinity.
We are labeled by: sex, race, ethnicity, jobs, position within the job, financial status, hobbies, music we like, what sport team or athlete we like, the way we dress, height, sexuality, figures, how we are related to people when it comes to family and relatives, medical conditions etc. What's the point of the whole alpha, beta, gamma, sigma, delta, omega crap? I would guess if anyone is strong: emotionally, financially, mentally, physically, sexually, socially and spiritually every second of every minute of every hour of every day of every week of every year is extremely rare if at all.
I've nvr heard of this shit.. all I see in this new generation is a bunch of queers! Every young guy I meet - most - has that gay accent, walks like a queer, dresses feminine, and today at the gas station, the cashier guy had makeup on and told me he loved my Versace purse! I have no problem w/gays, Versace was gay, but.. it's just too much today.
@TransAm85: First, absolutely LOVE your pseudo. I'm swinging by to pick you up in my IROC-Z.
Glad to know there are some real women in the generation below mine. Nice that you want a real man and don't find masculinity "toxic." Please please please convince your fellow females in your generation to stop feminizing men.
I am so sick and tired of seeing men wearing skinny jeans and flats, some with their nails painted and fucking dyed hair. Nobody wants him around when shit hits the fan. But everybody wants a real man around when it does. And that includes other real men. That's how problems get solved. Important to remember that we can sleep sound at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on your behalf. To protect. To maintain the peace. And nothing soothes the soul of such men like a real woman who knows what it means to be a woman. I suspect you're that kind of woman. Yum yum. 🙂
@Zeus_66 Right! It is really gross to be honest. You don't know who you're talking to anymore. Male, female, or both? Back in the day we had RuPaul, Ellen, and Richard Simmons! Now there's too many celebrities that swing every which way. What kind of example is that for the next generation? Maybe that's what they wanted? Just like the new cars.. all electric, computerized, compact body made of fiberglass and a utilized engine for speed on the foreign makes. I'd love to see ur Chevy. What year is it? They look just like a Trans Am.
No, that's just personality types. You can't just group different parts of personality and looks together, slap a different name on it and say it's a class now. Class is a societal thing, upper middle lower. It's not a dating thing. What you're thinking of may be "pretty privilege" where everybody treats you a lot better if you are pretty. This goes for all sexes, in all areas of life, not just dating.
To answer your question generally I don´t think there are classes of guys where you can say that guy is an alpha and that one is a beta.
But I there are different types of behavior that is more or less attractive in dating and because of it some guys have it easier to attract women and have success and some guys have a harder time.
But that doesn´t mean that a guy can´t do anything about it.
@captain-obvious I wouldn´t guys are easy to be categorized in categories like alpha, beta, sigma whatever but that doesn´t mean that all guys are the same. Like there are guys that are more confident and have better genetics than others. I just don´t like those labels because there are oftentimes self-proclaimed following some pseudo-psychological tests found online by unknown administrators.
People don't run in packs mating once per season. They pair-bond. So there are no alpha males mating mating with half the women. Smart people don't tell you they are smart, rich people don't tell you they are rich, tough people don't tell you they are tough, leaders don't tell you they are "alpha".
Negative. Human beings shed this type of hierarchy when we learned that cooperation is superior to domination in every conceivable way. People have always chosen to label others and often themselves in the simplest terms. The terms change every generation or so, and this new fad is no truer or more fact-based than any of those from the past. It’s just people being ignorant and closed-minded. Somehow, that never goes out of fashion.
My response to the update is simply this: provide empirical evidence that supports your statement and prove us all wrong. It’s really that simple. But i can save you some time, it’s not out there. Here’s some anecdotal evidence since you seem to like that so much: more than any other single factor, straight women are attracted to resources. What you look like and how you behave are secondary and tertiary. Also, men who behave in a hierarchical manner are either dead or in prison, or on their way to one or both. To whatever extent we couldn’t breed antisocial behavior out of people, we marginalize them through rule of law and societal standards.
You should really study the hierarchy system before talking about it like you understand it.
I doubt we are as simple as the wolf organization... Human organizations is much more complex than "alpha and beta" however certainly there are hierarchies... a smart, stronger, healthy man will be superior to a weak, dumb football fan who drink lacks of discipline and is addicted to drugs.
THE SUPERIOR MALES WILL BE ABOVE THE INFERIOR, there is no doubt of that.
You can't group half the human population into 3 subgroups. These classes don't exist. One man seen as a beta might be more attractive to another women then the alpha, and vice versa. It's just that many of the "alpha" qualities (and the confidence that comes with them) are qualities that most people value.
considering a good amount of modern female dating profiles often request a guy to be above average. when it comes to things like natural looks, fitness, income, natural height, dick size, schooling, social status, etc. would say they do exist to some degree.
Anyone who uses these are automatic red flags.
There are confident and unconfident men, but no such thing as “classes”.
There are classes of strong men, or weak, brave or coward, loyal or disloyal, good or evil... So yes there are classes in humans and in animals, it's natural...
Obviously we are more complex than "alpha and beta" but certainly there are hierarchies and classes, of superior and inferior men.
@IesusHominumSalvator Sure. Yet I think you care way too much about the concept and should stop thinking in terms of superiority all the time
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