Why do a lot of people still encourage relationships where the man is much older than the woman? Isn't that patriachial! ? ? (Page 2)
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Most people reject your feminist bullsh*t. You can live all alone on Angry Bitter Cat Lady Island, with all the rest of the feminists who all hate each other.
And yeah, this MIGHT be a troll post, but you can never tell, nowadays.
To add a bit of science rather than reactionary nonsense.
Women are often attracted to older men, as they are in the animal kingdom, because it provides some proof of physical resilience and experience. Other primates aren’t so precious about it and it’s more than common. Stop trying to make problems where there aren’t any. Sure there are predatory older men in the mix but that is largely a separate issue.
Because 30 year old men are stupid for considering dating stupid 21 year old woman.
It's really backward... I've seen couples where the man is younger than the woman and they're really happy.
It is a bit patriarchal...
i think its only people on GAG who are obsessed with large age gaps. If you go into the real world, not many people do large age gaps.
Yeah it's weird when people with 30 year age gap date that's disgusting.
@pupluv45 Visit cities like Vegas, Miami, LA, NYC etc and you will see this much more commonly. HV men typically move to big cities as do beautiful women so it is more more common there.
@Vegasrunner
actually I live in NYC. Vast majority of people here marry people around their own age. This includes rich folks, millennials, gen z. Rich white young men in their 20s-30s tend to marry rich white women in their 20-30s.
@Vegasrunner
In fact, according to data from the U. S. Census Bureau, the percentage of new female-male marriages that are breaking the rule has declined from 30% at the beginning of the 20th century to a little more than 10% in 1980 to a mere 3% today.
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@pupluv45 what does marriage have to do w/ anything? Also who said anything about race? NYC literally has an entire culture of older men who bag younger women, so sounds like you're being a bit dishonest.
@pupluv45
1. Who said anything about marriage?
2. How does that statement compare to the percentage of older women w/ younger men?
@Vegasrunner
young women aren't marrying old men because they're not attracted to old men.
people marry those who they are attracted to.
@Vegasrunner
NYC actually does not have a culture of old men bagging young women. That probably makes up like 8% of the population but the media likes to blow it up like its 80%. Vast majority of the people here are young millennials or gen z professionals who tend to date people around their own age.
butt hurt unattractive old farts like you always like to pretend your imagination is reality.
Because some people are stuck on the past.
It is statistically proven that the higher the age gap the more likely it is for the relationship to fail.
It's patriarchal, but men can have children at any age, while women don't, so it also biological.
No. You dumbass, it's not unusual.
You don't seem to understand the meaning of the word "patriarchal" either.
I don't think anyone is encouraging this, but it does happen and there shouldn't be anything wrong with it as long as both of them are in it for the right reasons.
10 ish years is alright in my book. But getting to 30 years ago, wow, awkward, it's totally different generation.. how do you have anything in common? Maybe they in it for the money? Or men their age are spoiled, immature, beats?
LOL feminism starting to ask the real questions.
You can't turn millenia of gender roles upside down in the matter of one or two generations. Besides many of your own gender still don't want SOME traditions to change. I think this is going to get worse still before it gets better.
because successful and eligible 40 yr olds with high market value would rather be with a 20 yr old than a 40 yr old. After all, we can't let the patriarchy take away the young ladies choices
You mean you are envious of young girls, taking the guys of your own age.
it just means she doesn't want old guys in their 50s-60s.
She's not envious just concerned of the young woman's safety. I mean seriously what stupid 30 year old men dates 18-25 year old woman?
SHOTS FIRED!!!
@pupluv45 Nobody forced neither you are her to find one.
@Alwayreckles93 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Yeah, her "safety" cause guys her age cannot hurt her. Not only you are biased but you cannot find a good excuse for the BULLSHIT you girls promote. Nah, I'm 21 and I would date down to 16 years old girls and when I turn 30 I would date down to 17. As long as the girls like it, I don't care what you or anyone else thinks. Go cry about it!
@YourFavoriteFriend
Actually vasr majority young women aren't even interested in dating a man over 10 years older than them. Large age gaps actually aren't as common as you want to believe
Plus you're talking about dating children? You just sound like a perverted sexual predator
@YourFavoriteFriend What are you talking about anyway why would a guy want to date a stupid young 21 year old. I mean 30 year old woman we are better. I am actually 30 not 21. People always think vi am 19 . Actually I know woman 28 and over that look a lot more younger then stupid 21 year old. For example a 35 year old woman can look twice more young then a 21 year old.
@Alwayreckles93
you don't always have to take him seriously. A lot of these guy walking around saying women expire by 30 are the very same guys who chronically can't get any women. Degrading women makes them feel better about rejection. A lot of these guys would be stoked if any 30 yr old woman paid any attention to them. Not only do they like shaming on older women. They also like shaming younger women by reminding them their worth expires within a very short time frame.
Plus, there is no shortage of women in their 30s who look amazing.
@pupluv45 Exactly I am 30 and people always assume I am 19 lol
What these dumb ass don't know is that if a woman takes care of her self eating healthy working out at age 30 and over they attend to look way more younger and better then woman 18-25. Plus a woman in her 30's owns a house debt free stable career financial stable something a woman ages 18-25 don't have. They just dumb. I can't stand men that shame woman for their age. Plus now a days woman 18-25 don't take relationship seriously they're all gold diggers chasing after old men's money.
@pupluv45 When did I said it is common? Has does this have anything to do with what I said? Do you girls have any brain cells still alive inside your heads? For fuck's sake every time people can't properly read and understand what you say and they always change subject...
@Alwayreckles93 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OMG, the denial! Guys LOVE younger girls, we are always seeing that, it's like you live in your own world and you have no idea what guys like. Why would a guy want to date an older one? A stupid 21 year old? You are not the one to talk about been "stupid". If this is how mature girls are in their 30s, one more reason to date younger ones.
P. S. People think you are 19 because that's what it says in your profile...
@YourFavoriteFriend I wouldn't be surprised if you are a creep 30 year old pretending to be 21. Wrong I really do look 19 I look good for my age.
@pupluv45 He must be some creep behind his keyboard I wouldn't be surprised if it's a 30 year old men lying about his age.
@Alwayreckles93 I wouldn't be surprised if you are the annoying "strong and independent" women that nobody wants to even have sex with. Well, I was thinking about uploading a pic these days but I'm not thinking about deleting this account and never ever visit this platform again. GGs!
@YourFavoriteFriend Grow up! I wouldn't be surprised if you are friends with Fuentes and ShadesMcGee those creep 30 year olds that date useless broke ass golddigger younger woman !
@YourFavoriteFriend
[When did I said it is common? Has does this have anything to do with what I said?]
Its not common because young girls usually aren't looking to date old men.
You may obsesses over a woman 15-30 years younger, she may not necessarily want you.
I don't find old men attractive.
Good action starts with good diagnosis, and good diagnosis starts with honesty.
![Why do a lot of people still encourage relationships where the man is much older than the woman? Isn't that patriachial! ? ?]()
If you want to form a family, the woman not being higher than certain age matters. At 35 women fertility starts declining rapidly, and at 45 it is non existent.
Hence not only it isn't wrong to like younger women. It's natural, and advantageous.
Also I don't really care if the woman is 20 or 30 for her maturity. A 20 old with good values is way better than a 30 with unreliable crappy attitude.
The problem with many women these days is that they buy into that faux sensation of control, instead of seeing things as they are and act accordingly.
@es20490446e
If I'm single by the time I'm 35, I can have kids as a single woman if I want.
Women control reproduction. If a woman truly wanted kids, she would have them.
Only men die alone. Women don't have to.
@pupluv45 My latest girlfriend was a 40 years old woman that asked me to make her pregnant upfront. Because, she said, nobody wanted to be with her due to her personality.
She was good looking, but she was right: nobody sane could handle that. Now she's alone with no boyfriend, neither son. Plus her kitten was hit by a car just after breaking up.
That's reality. You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.
If you chose to believe that bullshit, I'm telling your baby won't be from someone like me. I'm not interested in a woman that just wastes her best years fucking around, and then blames me for it.
@es20490446e While I do agree with you that some people mess around too much in their 20s, sometimes it does take time to find the right person your comptaible with too especially in this generation. My mom didn't meet my dad till she was 37 or 38, but it was because she had toxic relationships before and was a single parent to my half sister but just saying it can't always happen in the snap of a fingers like some people think it's magic. I'm 24 and I don't party or fool around but JUST saying I barley met my current boyfriend and he wasn't even from my state or anything, sometimes it is also by chance or circumstances for people to meet and find one another, I feel appreciative especially because I want children at 27-31 but point is some people think you can clap your hands and meet someone at a certain age or time when for some people can take a little longer to find your mate to share a family with but trust me women have this pressure way more than men due to the biological clock.
@es20490446e Nah, don't waste your time try to open their eyes bro. Let these "strong and independent" internet women to do and believe whatever they want till reality hits them. The other one said it after all. She isn't interested in older men so probably other women are not as well. Makes sense right? There is no way other people may want different things...
Out of everything, I'm sad for the poor cat tho. It's still day and I woke up been a little bit relaxed-sad so this incident made me a little bit sad. RIP poor soul!
@YourFavoriteFriend but those women are ones who usually party and waste time not if they don’t meet someone at 18.. why does society try to panic someone if they don’t meet someone till age 24 for example or 25? I also don’t prefer men much older, my boyfriend is 20 years old but he doesn’t mind my age also since I can pass for 20 myself or 21 but I don’t think I’m weird for just not preferring no more than 10 years older.
I mean I barley met my boyfriend at my age 24, and I feel lucky but some people learn the hard way I suppose when it’s really late and all they did was mess around or party but I never do that stuff it was just so hard trying to meet a great guy
@Paulalove98 Why is always someone that needs to "make things clear" and more specific? We know that not everyone messes around, we don't talk about them. This type of women that didn't messed around and just didn't happened to found their SO (if you even believe in this concept) are most of the times great people to be around so I would (and most of the guys except for the ones that are so worried about best possible "fertility") prefer them over a lot of younger chicks to begin with. So no reason to say that not everyone messes around. We know and we don't talk about them.
NOW! Here is the hard truth that you girls hate to hear and take it off as anger (just replied in a post who said exactly that) where it's just the truth. MOST people ARE messing around. You said about your mother that she had toxic relationships but why was she staying in them? How much time did she stayed AFTER she saw their true colors? Was she in need for money and had nowhere to go? I do get for your sister's father and that she wanted to stay a little bit more and try to fix things but what about the others? If they were so "toxic" as you said, she should have not spend even one day been with them. So don't speak of so sure for others cause you never know. Especially if they are your relatives or good friends, you'll always see their life in THEIR favor and have a biased opinion.
Of course, I may be wrong about your mother and there may be details that I don't know and maybe her intentions were pure but still, this will not prove anything. It is a thing that most people are messing around and then they expect to say "sorry" and that "they changed" when they get older and that everything will be alright. Nah, I do not forgive people. This includes myself cause I don't expect to be forgiving and given second chances with people.
@Paulalove98 As I got the update of that after I posted mine, I wanted to quote something.
> why does society try to panic someone if they don’t meet someone till age 24 for example or 25?
They don't. I explained it in my comments. Only idiots that only care about making a child to "leave someone behind" (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, oh please your genes should not passed on) will say that. In your case, you shouldn't even care if you found a boyfriend and you are still very very young.
@Paulalove98 I think it is true that some people require time to find the right partner. For instance this has been my case so far.
Now I also think that @YourFavoriteFriend is somehow right. If I look backwards I can see clearly why I'm my age without a girlfriend, being that I'm kind of an attractive man.
The reason is non other that I wasted way to much time with people that was not worth it, and that likely eliminated opportunities to get to know better people meanwhile.
That said we aren't even talking about these kind of women. Rather we are pointing out those ladies that PURPOSELY stay away of relationships, and expect men to be at their service without giving a thing in return.
Probably this sounds like an overstatement, till you get to know these kind of women. It's an absolutely nightmare. They only care about themselves, they bring drama all the time for no reason, and treat their partners as if they were their servants.
Not like having a fight from time to time, but being drama all the time. I think that women that aren't like that usually don't understand the situation, because they just assume those women to act as them. The same as I did when I dated them, I just assumed that everyone was as nice as me.
lol this guy just admitted to being a pedophile. what a way to incriminate yourself.
just wanted to add that no one is envious and they have no reason to be. majority of young women don’t want an old washed up jaded man who’s balding, with a dad bod (aka fat), and wrinkles. i’ve never met someone my age who would pass up someone around our age for an old man. older to us is like three years max. so you guys can keep living in fantasy land to give yourselves some hope but fantasy and reality are two different things💕
@sassy_receptor Again, not seeing things as they are.
The thing is that many women at your age, by themselves, expressed interest in me.
So don't ask me if I'm pedo, ask them instead why they approach.
That's why I say this is just envy of other women.
you weren’t the pedo in question. majority of women my age wouldn’t even glance twice in your direction. sorry it’s just reality.
it’s not envy of other women because you’re delusional. why envy delusion?
@es20490446e
there is no such thing as a "woman's best years". You're just a desperate man who is trying to make up for his unimportance in the reproduction process.
A woman can start a family on her own BY HERSELF without a husband. Women do not need men. But men need women. Women do not need lifelong fertility because all women are blessed with the power to have kids. why would she need lifelong fertility if she can have kids before she is 40?
she doesn't even need to ask you to get pregnant. she can just go to a bar and hookup with a random guy and get pregnant.
On the other hand, you need to beg a woman to be willing to commit to you in order for you to be anywhere close to having children.
Women control reproduction. Men do not.
@sassy_receptor
I perfectly agree. Its hilarious how men think they are the only ones with eeyes. WE HAVE EYES TOO!
why would we settle for an wrinkly, fat, sagging old man with hair loss and a bad knee if we can get sexy strong, handsome, young man in his prime, with abs and a shining full head of hair? I can't rely on a weak old man to protect me. I'd very much feel way more protected being with a man who is still strong , young, and fast.
EXACTLY @pupluv45
it’s funny how these old men are trying to tell us, young women, what young women like and want. and we’re literally trying to tell them they’re wrong and they’re just choosing to be in denial. it’s honestly pitiful.
if old men were so great 93% of women wouldn’t marry close in age. no one wants them😂
@es20490446e
do you realize there are plenty of men who want kids but can't have kids? I know of a 39 yr old man who is still single , really wants a child , but can't have one because he can't find the right woman. He had been single for the past 7 years and is still nowhere close to finding a wife. On the other hand, I'm planning on having a child in 6 years as a single woman.
There are a lot of men who wait their entire lives wishing to have kids but they can't. Life long fertility does not guarantee children.
also to add onto her point^^ women can adopt and get pregnant by a sperm donor with no issue. men can’t adopt because society doesn’t trust men with kids. the only way a man could possibly have a child other than direct sexual reproduction is through sperm doning but even then women have full custody of the child and get to have on a say on whether you can be in the child’s life.
men need women. women don’t need men.
@sassy_receptor
Sperm donors usually do not get any legal right to their offspring. Vast majority of sperm donors are completely anonymous. Sperm donors names do not even get listed on the child's birth certificate. Sperm donors are not legally seen as "fathers" but rather just as sperm donors.
yep exactly. some women are just kind enough to recognize that man as the father but again that’s dependent on what the women want. not what the man wants. which enforces your point even more.
@sassy_receptor
actually the sperm banks never release the names or identities of the sperm donors. The best that they can give you is a picture the face of the sperm donor so you can guess what the baby will look like. For example, if you want a baby with black hair. The sperm bank will go look for a picture of a sperm donor with black hair
some sperm banks do release names at least where i’m from. but that still doesn’t change much.
@sassy_receptor
vast majority of them do not. only in very very rare exceptions they do.
you’re correct!
https://youtu.be/gP6Lzg0khk4
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es20490446e
you mad, bro?
No one really cares if you are with a 18 year old or a 60 year old. The women themselves have an issue dating with wide age gaps.
No, patriarchal would be making her do his bidding
That doesn't bother me, I come and go as I please. You can't do that with guys my same age.
A lot of people want to be miserable and want to pull others in it. We say misery loves company.
I advise you not to follow them.
Only y'all post wall women are upset about this. Smh.
As long as they are both adults; what is the problem?