Sex in and of itself isn't considered a sin, rather it was sex OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE that was considered a sin. Why? Well, you have to remember that birth control has only existed since the 1960s - prior to that, if you were having sex, you had to have the expectation that you were going to get pregnant/get her pregnant and have a child - and of course, that is exactly what did happen a whole lot of the time.
Also until fairly recently, it was a HUGE issue if a child was not born to married parents - it made that child illegitimate - a BASTARD - and bastard children were considered to have little value and were rarely treated well by anyone. You have to understand that the rules of society were heavily based on inheritance - and not just of money, but of family names, titles, property, and the incomes that property generated. Bastards could not inherit any of this - they weren't even entitled to the family name - and that was a BIG DEAL for most of history.
And as for the church, it controlled the marriage process, and generally the children of married couples were automatically considered to be members of the church/religion they were born into, so it was in the church's best interest to get a couple married young (it's always been understood that teens want sex and will find a way to have it), so that all of their children will be members of the church.
Fornication (sex between two unmarried people) and adultery (sex with someone who isn't your spouse) threatened this system, because it produced illegitimate children. These children were considered to be a burden by everyone, and untrustworthy and of low status, and many were sold into slavery or sent off to fight as soldiers (where they would likely be killed, solving the problem for everyone) or as sailors (which also had a very high mortality rate), or were used as servants.
If you read any history - from the Bible to translations of Egyptian history all the way through European history, you'll find that these books are FILLED with details about marriages, births, inheritances, and all of the politics and intrigue surrounding these things. The lives of nobles were the equivalent of The Bachelor: everyone followed their relationships, but there were also important political impacts. Some births were contested and this could lead to wars and tens of thousands dead.
The church wanted to control and limit all of that chaos, and therefore, the rules.
Do me a summary.
Basically to prevent unwed mothers and ensure the parentage of the kids produced, the church pushed marriage and sex within marriages
That, and because among the ruling class, illegitimate children could literally start wars and have a massive negative impact on the fate of the entire country.
Read the Bible book Song of Songs, especially 8:5-7. Steamy as any romance novel could ever be!
Holiness and sexuality go together; God loves sex. You can be holy and highly sexual at the same time. Contrary to what we normally think, the two go together very well. Sex is not only physical, but it is profoundly spiritual. Not only can holiness and sexuality go together, they must go together if we are going to truly flourish.
The book (Song of Songs) is written to give us a model of godly sex. We’re supposed to read this book and say, “Okay! This is what I can experience in my life.” It’s a book that helps us imagine what holy sexuality can look like. It even gives us a window into the problems that arise even when we pursue holy sexuality. It shows us that God has a lot to say about sex, and that he sees it as good IF you do it his way. Who better to teach us about sex than the one who invented it, and who knows us very well — and who cares for us deeply.
Godly sex isn’t just sex. It’s part of a bigger, wholehearted, loyal commitment to each other. Sex isn’t just a mingling of bodies; it’s a mingling of souls. The Bible later teaches (in 1 Corinthians 7) that there’s a mutuality to this relationship: the husband and the wife belong to each other. In sex and in marriage, you give yourself — all of you — to the other person.
First of all, sexual desires are not a sin. Lust of the flesh is. God designed for sex to be mysterious, for marriage between a man and a woman, as husband and wife, and that to be explored sexually together without polluting your thoughts.
It is not a religion. It is part of life. People call it religious because they don't want to accept the consequences of my actions. That's like saying going to school as religious even though you need an education because that's the only way you going to really get through life is by getting educated somehow. He knows that the lust of the flesh is what gets people killed, people murder for that. That's like judging rapist for getting those forbidden Pleasures from raping a victim. Why call it a crime, if we're happy doing those things. It has nothing to do with you being atheist, had nothing to do with somebody being a Christian, or religious, or whatever a person wants to associate and label themselves ass. He given as rules as human beings and as living beings to follow a certain code of conduct so that nobody including ourselves will get hurt. Yes masturbation can open portals because our bodies as vessels are also portals. But this is something that's more deep and spiritual.
People are stuck remembering their first sex partner and ruin other potential relationships. It's not just about the children, but children like myself are affected by our parents choices in some way shape or form. It's because of premarital sex it messed up my late mothers sex life. She ended up with HPV and got cervical cancer from it. I could have been HPV positive had she not got the warts burned off at 13. I guess STDs are religious concept too. It's not real. NO, but it is real. And demons like to deceive people into thinking it's okay. Again, sex is not a sin. But how and what you choose to do with it can be. Just like lusting after somebldy. It's a sin. Because of you refuse to control it, you can literally destroy your marriage or rape and kill another person. All because you can't control. That's how serious it is.
Pleasures?
Whose invention or definition is that? I don't really think that you can consider sex as pleasures, at least not when I read about all the downsides of it here on GAG.
There are more anxieties than pleasures by all those people that ask questions about penis, deviant sexual practices and other rather negative sides to "pleasure".
The purpose of sex has always been procreation but humans have added a number of sexual perversions and deviance but can you really call them pleasures?
I have my doubt about that definition since most of it is more of a challenge. See how many guys and girls cheat on each other because they don't get "pleasure" from sex, how much domestic violence exists because of that "pleasure" and how much crime is perpetrated on behalf of that "pleasure" ranging from rape to much worse.
Personally, sex is everything but pleasure.
Damn. Great answer.
Do me a summary.
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What's Your Opinion? Sign Up Now!I think sexual pleasures are OK, he just wants us to be careful to not get pregnant when we are not ready, etc so we just have to be careful and do it somewhat responsibly I think.
Even nuns and priests fall prey to temptations and even some churches are not opposed to it.
Sex is a beautiful place to be I will always respect it and the woman iam with
I don’t believe sex is a sin but the bible says sex without exclusivity and lifelong commitment and respect and mutual accountability and love and emotional interest is a sin - this is a fence God puts around sex to increase its benefits and decrease its problems.
No, it doesn't say all that jibber jabber... it says marriage. You typed a whole paragraph trying to say anything but marriage.
I'd say it's nothing more than a method of control by the old school church... they know sex is appealing so by saying oh you can't do it unless the church approves via marriage it's just another way of putting people under their thumb.
Not all of them are like that. I think the issue is that sex is a big deal, its not something to be done casually with random people. This then is pressed upon them and it gets warped into sex being the thing that is wrong rather then casual sex being wrong.
Sex isn't a sin, lol.
Adultery is a sin, and fornication is a sin. And it's not a matter of "religion". It's objectively derivable that adultery and fornication really are sins, just as it's objectively derivable that homosexuality is a sin.
I'm a deist, and I'm still convinced that all of those things are sins..
Sex is not forbidden by Christianity. It is encouraged within marriage.
All that "opening a portal to hell" is complete bulls***. Of course the Bible does say, "But but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart." Matthew 5:28
Here's the funny thing many people believe that America was founded by a group of people wishing for freedom but the original colonies still had massive ties to England and the crown these colonies were actually settled by religious prudes who were running away from religious persecution it's not until later that the citizens of this country rose up against England to gain their independence and freedom now many believe I'm not quite sure but many believe that anything that is pleasurable. May take away your devotion to God so they were deemed sins and frowned upon by God it's a touchy subject if you say something negative people think you're against God and you're evil if you are too positive people say you're a religious fanatic it's just one of those topics where you have to be careful who you talk to they may get offended
Hell must love me! I open a portal at least twice a day! 😃
The bible encourages us to have sex and to enjoy it, even celebrate how much fun it is and how good it feels. But the bible also says sex is to be withing marriage.
I think it’s because sex is supposed to foster a child from two loving and caring people, rather than racking up bodies when your boyfriend broke up with you, you want to be cool in front of your boys, you feel depressed, etc. I think it’s a fact now that most porn actresses, for example, have a troubling past which is why they do what they do. I’ve known this to be true intuitively as well. I also think this applies to promiscuous women outside of porn. It’s just not normal for women to think of and have sex similar to how men like it: no strings attached, casual, non-committal, etc.
I think however extensive the hookup culture is, it’s not having positive effects on society and people’s views on sex. Pornography is also the culprit too.
I think what is important is the establishment of a mainstream movement to foster better family values and more conservative views on sex.
You are reading the wrong book. Sex is not considered to be a sin in the Bible.
Because it's the means by which his children are brought into this world. To abuse that power is an offense to him.
So they can control their followers more easily.
I don't know if masturbation is considered a sin. I know thinking about someone you're not married to while masturbating is though. And i think that's the problem of it. But I'd have to look into it more to be sure.
According to Christians, sex is supposed to be after marriage because it is a bond and a bond we now know is sealed by blood. But it's also in an idea of children. When you have sex naturally it's meant to start a family with the one that you love
Don't forget, in the old days guys "took" a wife. Or 2. Or 3...
So, my question is, by limiting sex to only married people, why weren't men responsible/punished for their own lustful nature? The only person to ever be punished was David, after killing his best friend and marrying his wife, but still, he got to be king and still held God's favor. And people still blamed Bathsheba
Id say most believe its a sacred thing. Sex (fornication or adultery) is forbidden for the same reason bacon is forbidden in other religions. Superstition.
Sex isn't considered a sin, just sex that doesn't make more Christians born in wedlock.
it's because making sins way more easily than not to do sin. they exist to see if we able to not make sin or not because it's part of hard work. doing hard work things, would grand you a big reward same thing as study hard, you would get good result.
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