That's seems logical thanks for your answer.
I understand. Thank you for your answer
Huge amount of humanities wars happened because of religion.Religion is nothing but blind belief.
the reason for these wars is not religion , but for interests, is there a government that does not use religion?
religion is not a blind faith. people can be blind and believe some nonsense.
And isn't it blind belief if adult believes in imaginary friend?
Right, that's why the most secular countries have little violent crime, and why in the US the non-believers are hugely underrepresented in prisons? Thanks, I feel much safer around non-believers. Believers are less predictable. There's no telling them when some religious leader is going to incite them to violence.
We have very little crime rates and we are said to be second most atheist country in the world after China.
@David_Bayer why do you attribute this to irreligion? not an educated society or sophistication? Where Are you from?
I attribute it to atheism because educated countries generally lose believers over time. I live in Czech Republic.
@slatyb Religion can be used by politicians for malicious purposes, it is not up to the public to comply. I don't understand why crimes cost religion, not individuals. Let's say one person stole it. when he is tried, he holds him responsible for the crime he has committed. the judge doesn't tell him it's Christianity's fault. If a religion doesn't give orders to steal, which it never does.
David_Bayer so religion is against science? and as the level of education increases, people become irreligious. It matters what religion you're talking about here. I'm not going to defend all religions. But my religion commands learning and thinking. iam happy with my religion.
I don't like it because I know to many fanatically religious people that don't talk about anything else and will spontaneously argue with you at any time.
David_Bayer not all religious people are bad. don't ignore good examples. I'm not asking you to believe in a religion. But we all know we are not the same. as a human being, we all have a fault, an atheist, a deist, it is absurd to cost religion these mistakes. and who are you going to blame when a group of Heathens commit crimes? their irreligion or themselves?
@deepsilence wise answer
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Thank for your detailed opinion I appreciate it.
What is religion but a blind believe. I agree with the civilization part but I don't think that religion should play any part in modern society.Belief will never be superior to truth.
And then... the church lost political power in the developed countries and discovered that many people only went to church because they had no choice. Now people have a choice and surprise! Most of them are finding they would rather do something else on Sunday. Even among Americans who call themselves Christian most are not in church on Sunday.
I don't think that Islam and Christianity are good examples.Crusades, Jihad and stuff.
sorry i am lazy besides that am i wrong sorry
besides that i mean did i said wron g
Most people have some understanding of good and bad so we could base our laws on that and our society and law enforcement can guide our conscience.
Yes , but that comes from parents who know those laws.
r/atheism￼[deleted]5yHow Many People Have Been Killed in the Name of Religion?How many deaths have been caused by religion? Here's a list of religiously motivated wars and genocides and their death tolls. Let me know if I missed any!The Crusades: 6,000,000Thirty Years War: 11,500,000French Wars of Religion: 4,000,000Second Sudanese Civil War: 2,000,000Lebanese Civil War: 250,000Muslim Conquests of India: 80,000,000Congolese Genocide (King Leopold II): 13,000,000Armenian Genocide: 1,500,000Rwandan Genocide: 800,000Eighty Years' War: 1,000,000Nigerian Civil War: 1,000,000Great Peasants' Revolt: 250,000First Sudanese Civil War: 1,000,000Jewish Diaspora (Not Including the Holocaust): 1,000,000The Holocaust (Jewish and Homosexual Deaths): 6,500,000Islamic Terrorism Since 2000: 150,000Iraq War: 500,000US Western Expansion (Justified by "Manifest Destiny"):20,000,000Atlantic Slave Trade (Justified by Christianity): 14,000,000Aztec Human Sacrifice: 80,000AIDS deaths in Africa largely due to opposition to condoms: 30,000,000Spanish Inquisition: 5,000I mostly agree with you but the atheist countries were mostly oppressive communist/fascist countries.
ok, I dont have the time to dispute each of these individually but claiming that the 6 million Jews were killed because of religion is disingenuous at best. The Nazis hated them because of racial ideology and the Nazis weren't really a religion (even though you could make a somewhat valid claim that it was). The bottom line here is that ideologies (which are a big part of religion) will persist past the elimination of religion and they will be responsible for so much misery and death that you'll never even miss religion
Thanks for your answer
Religion is based purely by belief not by facts.You chose your own purpose to for life and biological purpose for life is reproduction.And what are my dirty acts mr. Almighty?
I wouldn't. If everyone chosed not to believe.
Well, that is very hypothetical, if everyone chose to reject religion then their personalities would be completely different from what they are now. Tradition of course can be as strong as religion. The Ancient Chinese were as brutal as any other ancient culture without really ever justifying anything they did via Gods.
Thanks for answering
By the way Daniel J. Boorstin wrote the last quote not Hawking.
It's possible I just googled some images to attract more answers.
That's probable. Thanks for answering
You are probably right. Thanks for your answer
And you say that to me without valid evidence. Atheism is not belief in something you don't have any evidence of.
You are a evidence like all cosmos.
And do you believe in any specific religion or just in higher beings?
Do you at least believe in proven facts such as evolution?
The higher being on The god. Ither all exists are created by the god all cosmos and other cosmoses we have not know them yet. If your question about religions I follow ibranic religions (jew chris and islam ) but islam is the best option about my searches. Coz only islam describe the god perfectly
Evolotion is a not believing issue evolotion is a realty like god. Islam not refuse the evolotion.
Alright. Do you agree that his goodness and omnipotence is somewhat questionable?
No the god not describe only a story here like christianty. christianty describe god like a story hero kind goodness always good like a polyanna. But god is god. The god including goodness badness etc. all of them... may be its looking unlogical ehy the god exist badness and test us with this life. But boss is boss. The boss alwasy right
And now why do you think that Atheism is bullshit even though it's the most logical?
Deism logical I think. Claiming the universe emerged spontaneously unlogical. In this cosmon nothing and nothing happens or exist witout a creator or a reason.
Ok I'm done. To argue with that I would have to use quantum theory and I don't have time for that
And also I dint have enought English to tell it to you clearly.
Alright neither do I probably. Have a good day
Thanks citizen 🤚
What are you talking about?
Search for Heaven's Gate..
Oh ok. What about the other religions and gods?
Search for sarcasm..
Why do you think?
I agree with miss anonymous
I am agnostic, and I partially believe this as well. The reason being I think that a lot of people are just good because they have religion and they are scared that they’re gonna burn in hell if they do what they want to do, which is some atrocious shit.One example, the man who was in his 40s when he first started abusing his daughter and his daughters best friend sexually, when they were around six years Of age to the time that they were in high school. On his deathbed, this man was crying. Not because he had hurt anyone, but because he was scared of dying and going to hell to burn forever because he was religious. Had he not been afraid of this the entire time, it is quite possible that he would not have limited his abuse to his own daughter and her best friend, but instead might have sought to branch out and molest more girls. That’s all hypothetical, of course, but it’s an example of how religion keeps people in check, rather than letting them go about their own selfish ways. There may be some people who have actually kept themselves from abusing children at all because the threat of hell was so persuasive.
@zeitgeist057 your agnostic which means that your questioning the truth, well i tell you that you have nothing to lose if you believe in god, at least if you died and woke up somewhere else than you wouldn't be affraid...
Something without evidence shouldn't be considered truth.
You too don't have evidence if it's real of or not and that's why it's called faith!I believe while you don't!
That wasn't because lack of relogion but because of their suppressive regime collectivism.Thank for your answer
That's what they replaced religion with my man!
Not really they tried to replace religion with their state or ruler kinda
Yeah--because it turns out religion is a useful bulwark against the awful stupidity that Lenin/Stalin and Mao unleashed on their people.
They tried to replace religion with a cult of personality, not with enlightened secularism. The Russians starved partially because of the Soviet adherence to Lysenkoism (a pseudo-scientific anti-evolutionary theory).
@slatyb Yeah--the "enlightened" Trotskyites were slaughtered by the fucking disaster that came after them. It's pretty much the way this story always goes.
Keep building me that palace, growing my food, cooking my banquets, you will be rewarded in heaven!