Is it lazy to believe in God?

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Seems like cognitive laziness to shrug off the complexity of the universe and humans.

Is it lazy to believe in God?

It’s lazy

Not lazy

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CindersFire | 85 opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic.
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2 mo

I don't think your question has an answer. While I understand where you're coming from with people using God/religion either way to basically hand wave away thinking about deeper issues. However there are a lot people in every religion who go fucking deep into that shit. Trying to understand philosophy, human nature, try to suck every hint of wisdom out of the teachings of their predecessors. Now obviously that's not everyone who is religious but I find it highly unlikely that the people who use it as a way to hand wave away complexity would have any interest in philosophy, science, or any of the other quote on quote big questions. If I were to Hazard a guess I would say that the percentage of atheists who don't give a damn about that stuff and the percentage of Christians who don't give a damn about that stuff is pretty damn similar.

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- OddBeMe
  
  2 mo
  you're probably right, but I fear people who believe in absolutes.
- CindersFire
  
  2 mo
  Wouldn't that apply just as much to athiests as it would to religous people as, to put in scientific terms, one could equate god to simply a fourth or fifth dimensional that seems to have a personal stake in humanities development similar to an antkeeper taking care of a colony. This wouldn't be that far outside of the realm of possibilty as it already seems likely that their are other dimersions we cannot knowingly interact with and it isn't hard to persume that such dimensions would also develop life of their own.
- OddBeMe
  
  2 mo
  Not known so not believed in. You forget religionists believe without evidence, scientists only believe with evidence.
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- CindersFire
  
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  Okay well start with not known so not believed in doesn't align with science at all. There are a ton of ideas or theories in science there aren't definitively known, but rather that evidence points towards. Not only that but I would argue very few religious people believe without evidence. It is simply not evidence with which you agree with. It's no different than how they used to believe that the Earth was flat or that the sun orbited around the Earth. These were all beliefs based in evidence that were later proven wrong. And all too common to say in this thread a higher power will probably never be disproven nor will it ever be proven. Personally I believe as long as it makes you a better person in whatever context that may be in then go right on ahead and believe that.
OfDeath | 1.4K opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic.
Master

2 mo

In a sense it is because it is a blanket answer for everything and one never has to actually learn things like history, physics, chemistry and biology in order to think critically about cosmology and life. On the other hand, if one does study history and the sciences in depth, it would take a significant amount of effort to remain in a state of deliberate denial in order to retain a belief that God is actually real and not made up by people with far less knowledge of reality than themselves.

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Wade8888 | 148 opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic.
Xper 5

2 mo

Your analogy is moronic and your question is moronic.

Rich people wouldn't exist if not for farmers with tractors and hay fields and such.

You believe complexity comes about through accident, because you are a moron.

For example, all of the known laws of physics are described by a combination of mathematical laws and other logical laws, which are never violated. Where do you think logic itself came from?

lol.

Who wrote the equation (s) that govern reality? lol.

Logic requires a Mind. It doesn't happen by accident.

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- OddBeMe
  
  2 mo
  So it’s either from a mind or by accident? Couldn’t it be just the way it is? Your like the puddle who thinks the hole is so perfect for it there must be a puddle god.
Deathraider | 2.4K opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic.
Guru

2 mo

In a way, it’s a cop out. If there is a difficult question, there are people who would just defer to god and state that it was caused by him and he works in ways beyond our understanding. And the thing is there isn’t anyway to ever verify that a god exist.

One example of this is those who believe in a form of divine command theory. The idea that what is morally right is whatever god commands. The idea of divine command theory never addresses why one should follow said commands and represents morality as being arbitrary commands.

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- OddBeMe
  
  2 mo
  True. Either it’s moral because God says it or God says it because it’s moral.
Lionman95
Xper 6

2 mo

No it´s lazy. Being religious one just has different assumptions about life and it´s consequences, it´s not lazy because you don´t stop thinking about life. You just have a different starting point. Arts isn´t a sports car, in my view. There´s nothing special about it, especially the arts of the last 50 years where you just mix some colours is not a big thing. Yeah it looks cool but it´s nothing you need a genius for.

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- Lionman95
  
  2 mo
  by the way why do you philosophy is any different than religion? The results are the same, both can´t absolute definitions about life, there is nothing absolutely right or wrong in philosophy whereas in biology, physics, or chemistry there are answers that are wrong. In philosophy an answer is more or less plausible depending on the way of argumentation. That´s like religion both start with certain assumptations about life you may or might not share. They
- OddBeMe
  
  2 mo
  In philosophy there are fallacies like special spreading that religion violates constantly. Yet people keep believing it. Lazily.
- Lionman95
  
  2 mo
  But still are just theories. There are no absolute answers philosophy can give about life.
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- OddBeMe
  
  2 mo
  True!
ManOnFire | 75 opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic.
Guru

2 mo

Having faith in God actually takes quite a lot of courage, especially when you make the effort to build your faith. It's not believing in God that's lazy. Anyone can choose to think God doesn't exist and faith is pointless. It requires no activity and no effort. Simply thinking it is enough.

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- OddBeMe
  
  2 mo
  There’s a difference in not believing in god and believing no god exists.
- ManOnFire
  
  2 mo
  So tell me: what is that difference?
- OddBeMe
  
  2 mo
  The position of the negative attribution. “I DONT believe in god” is not a claim, it’s a response to the lack of evidence. “I believe NO god exists” is an actual claim that needs to be backed up with evidence.
  
  Same for the flip side. You believe in god and need to back it up with evidence.
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- ManOnFire
  
  2 mo
  I need to back up evidence for myself if I already believe in him.
- OddBeMe
  
  2 mo
  We all have beliefs that aren’t backed by evidence. But god is the only one we choose to keep once discovering there’s no evidence.
- ManOnFire
  
  2 mo
  Maybe because enough people realize they don't need evidence in order to believe in him.
- OddBeMe
  
  2 mo
  Do you believe in anything else without evidence? No. Because that’s stupid.
- CarneConChile
  
  2 mo
  How can God be shown in created evidence when he is uncreated?
- OddBeMe
  
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  @CarneConChile how do you know he’s uncreated?
- CarneConChile
  
  2 mo
  What are you asking? Are you trying to say he must certainly be created? An image made by man to put his understanding into a framework?
- OddBeMe
  
  2 mo
  @CarneConChile You made a claim that God is uncreated. I'm simply asking how you know.
- CarneConChile
  
  2 mo
  What does it mean to know? If I made the claim he is uncreated then we must think abstractly in order to get close to understanding. If you are unwilling to do that then tell me how can you live a meaningful life? If you have no proof ( but live to embrace it (most avoid)) then you must be IN nhilism, which is destroyed by reason.
- OddBeMe
  
  2 mo
  @CarneConChile Its always abstract talk and no evidence. You have no reason to believe in a god, much less he's uncreated. You're treading water in the pool of logic.
- CarneConChile
  
  2 mo
  the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. What physical evidence could there be?
  
  "By faith we understand that the worlds were prepared by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things which are visible."
- OddBeMe
  
  2 mo
  @CarneConChile Actually absence can be evidence if you make a claim and can't back it up. I say I have a trillion dollar bill in my wallet. If I can't show you, that's evidence.
- CarneConChile
  
  2 mo
  Yes but there can be reasons you can't show me. Say there are some who would steal it without thought.
- OddBeMe
  
  2 mo
  @CarneConChile Doesn’t matter. It’s absence is still evidence.
TylerKuykendall
Yoda

2 mo

Religious views can be VERY lazy, but it’s also lazy to dismiss any probability whatsoever in there being more to our existence than meets the eye - and arrogant to act like people who believe differently from you are complete idiots (no matter what your beliefs are).

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- OddBeMe
  
  2 mo
  People who know with absolute certainty but then have evidence to back it up. Then push their beliefs on others.
codyccc | 308 opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic.
Guru

2 mo

Na the church uses events like Christmas to blackmail and indoctrination kids at such a young age they can't protect themselves then before you know it all your friends are members and leaving would cause you to lose friends

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Tamera952 | 382 opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic.
Yoda

2 mo

YES absolutely! It's the easy way out, and giving up the burden of having to think.

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BCRanger10 | 665 opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic.
Master

2 mo

How and why would it be?

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- OddBeMe
  
  2 mo
  Seems like believing in an absolute being stops all other learning about the universe. Just say “god did it.”
- BCRanger10
  
  2 mo
  Where do you get that idea?
- OddBeMe
  
  2 mo
  From religionists who know nothing about the universe.
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- BCRanger10
  
  2 mo
  You've actually heard them say that?
- OddBeMe
  
  2 mo
  the polls seem to show that.
- BCRanger10
  
  2 mo
  Which polls are you talking about?
- OddBeMe
  
  2 mo
  Pew poll of evolution and beginning of the universe. The uneducated and religious are in lock step, unsurprisingly...
  www.pewresearch.org/.../

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