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- There's no such thing as a liberal Christian in terms of moral values and principles the Bible teaches in favor of i. g. pro homosexuality, abortion, fornication etc.
A true Christian sticks to the direct word of God without ever changing no matter what society teaches or progressive forward to contrary to God's word.1|30|0Is this still revelant?So you saw the part where they said words have been translated.. do you then take the Bible as word for word in the original Greek or word for word in the translated English?
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@DavidFox: I only read in English. Its true, some evil men have tampered and changed God's word. All these modern versions are corrputed.
I read the New King James Bible which is very accurate and pure in its English translation.
God promised to preserve His word to generation to generation.
Psalm 12:6-7
The words of the LORD are pure words, Like silver tried in a furnace of earth, Purified seven times. You shall keep them, O LORD, You shall preserve them from this generation forever.You saw in the video where they said the word homosexual wasn’t in the original Greek right?
@DavidFox: The Bible has the word homosexual in it.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11:
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.Did you see the part in the video where they addressed that verse and said in the original Greek it said pedophelia and not homosexuals?
@DavidFox: Saw that part. Its a convenient law. The text clearly says a man shall not lie (sex) with another man as he does with a woman.
@DavidFox: Like I said its a convenient lie of the homosexuals to fit their agenda. God doesn't approve of two dudes or two women getting sexual together. 🤢
It’s not a lie. If you really want to be literal, you must return the the original Greek. You can’t truth all English translated perfectly. That’s just ignorant.
Here’s an article in case you wanted to learn more: https://tms.edu/m/tmsj3h.pdf@DavidFox: Dude, God's word is clear. Two people of the same sex having sexual attraction or doing something sexual is against nature and wrong.
Romans 1:18-32
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice themSince you take the Bible literally, do you still have both eyes or did you carve out your right eye which caused you to sin?
@DavidFox: Jesus is speaking hyperbole to get a point across if your eye, hand or feet or anything for that matter is causing to disobey God's commands and sin then you better take whatever drastic measures to avoid falling into that sin especially doing that sin on purpose.
You can’t do that, you can’t be literal in one part and then claim hyperbole in another part. That’s not consistent.
@DavidFox: Use your common sense. Not everything thing in the Bible is literal? You didn't learn literacy skills in school to differentiate between literal, poetry or metamorphic language?
For ex: Jesus taught its easier for a camel to pass through a needle then for a rich man to enter heaven. Can a camel in reality pass through a needle? Of course not. Jesus was teaching basically that its very difficult for rich people to enter heaven.Yes I use my common sense. I doubt a snake spoke to someone named Eve, actually don’t think Eve existed. I do think it’s a story like others captured in the Bible.
@DavidFox: Well, I believe Satan used a snake and talked Eve into disobedience towards God. I 100% believe God's word. I'm a radical believer in God's word. It won't ever change God willing. You can believe whatever you desire.
@DavidFox: They don't unlike Parrots. I told you Satan was doing the talking to Eve through a snake.
- The very premise is wrong.
They are not discussing "religion". Only their opinions on cultural issues, and subjective interpretations in their religion.
There is a big difference.
It's like bringing together a local circus under the false premise it is a "cultural show".0|00|0Is this still revelant?
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05- The progressives lost with the gay man and the literal denial of God's word. There is no point to hearing out these apostates. There will be no gays in heaven, but there will be plenty of former gays, and thieves, and drunkards, and harlots. God died for all and forgives all who repent and call upon the name of Jesus. Gays can and often do choose to live together that will never be a marriage before God, but will invariably be gay. They can be saved like any other sinner, but cannot live in sin and claim Christ. Everyone has different temptations and struggles, all will struggle and be tempted by sin throughout their whole lives, but how we live and who we live for is a choice. Even if you were gay and still struggling with temptation you can be delivered from it by Jesus. You cannot live gay and be Christian, but if you have repented of it and accepted Christ you are a new creature. As far as abortion if the mother or child may die from delivery any sensible doctor will do their best to save both lives. If by saving the mother the child dies then it is not an abortion, but rather a miscarriage. These aren't common situations, some when carried to term turn out not to be a problem. The ones that do, the doctor's goal is to save as many lives as possible.1|00|0
Thank you for telling the truth. That is God's truth.
If people don't like it we get censored or kicked off here, so be it.
But God's truth was told.
People will be mad because truth hurts as says goes.Better to be convicted in this life than judged eternally in Hell.
Facts.
- quite frankly it's hilarious to watch some halfwits discuss who's right about a completely made up thing xD it's like discussing who's stronger superman or son goku. there's no point.
god is nothing but "a personal opinion" and as such of course will cause controversy.0|00|2@DavidFox just generally how they casually state "how they trust god" and then commencing to explain how they think and what they did without god having even the slightest thing to do with that. not even realizing that all they do is simply stating their own opinion, that has nothing to do with anything that is written in the bible.
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@DavidFox well how do you know what god wants? you can't. "some" things are relatively clear in the bible. but a lot of things are catastrophically vague. so really you can't know what god wants you're just interpreting vague shit in whatever way you prefer and at that point, what's the point in claiming that you do it out of love for got, when you frankly don't know what the fuck god even wants?
All that God wants is our love. Think about it, He’s got everything else. But we are not slaves and we can choose to love Him freely. Our love is the only thing in life God can’t control.
@DavidFox naw in order for me to consider something, you'd have to talk about actual people. god is not a person. it's an imaginary friend of some people. i don't consider the feelings of imaginary friends.
@DavidFox if you were a god and then you went ahead and create life just to threaten it with eternal damnation if they don't love you, i'd call you pathetic. luckily you're not god.
Gotcha. So by Faith you believe there is no God. That’s a strong piece of Faith for you to have
God doesn’t threaten with damnation. But I understand, you don’t believe in Him so no need to study His teachings
@DavidFox to be as precise as possible: i do not believe that there is a god. the burden of proof for the claim that there is a god has not been met in the first place. only if there was demonstrable proof and evidence, then i could choose "not to believe it".
i generally try to avoid faith and believe as much as possible. because faith and believe don't give a shit about what's real.@DavidFox believing that there is no god, implies the possibility thatt here is one. and that would have to be demonstrated and proven first, or else "not believing in a thing" is pointless.
@DavidFox oh God doesn’t threaten with damnation? then tell me what happens to people who constantly and willingly violate 2 of the 10 commandments for the entirety of their life? there's actually multiple quotes in the bible that directly talk about how "intentional non believers will be condemned".
Very strong Faith to believe there must be proof. People who sin against God are punished.
@DavidFox that's not faith. Faith is believing something without or despite evidence, which is opposite to trust in evidence. Faith in made up stuff is not comparable to trust in facts that you can demonstrate and test. If I punch your face, you can trust it will hurt you, cause I can demonstrate it. No faith needed.
People who sin against God are punished and people who intentionally violate gods will do sin. Especially if it's one of the 10 most important things to God... Hence the 10 commandments.@DavidFox but if you love god, you'll happily go to hell right? cause he knows what's right, not you.
Thank God Jesus came around. Because yes without Jesus as my Savior I’d be hanging with Satin in hell
@DavidFox if you read the actual bible, jesus freed you of the sin you get by default by being born (which is bullshit if you ask me, cause humans aren't born evil but that's what the bible says).
however jesuses sacrifice does not at all account for what you did in live.
by the way: the real reason jesus death had purely political reasons. all the nonsense about "he died for our sins" was made up after the fact. cause jesus actually wanted "gods kingdom" or "davids kingdom" back, which is the rulership over israel by the 12 jewish tribe leaders, of which his dad joseph and his granddad jakob was one.
government by legitimation of bloodline and delusion never gets old. the brits are still doing it. noting but mundane politicas that got filled with myths and legends, as history books tell a different story.the roman occupants didn't like "rebels" or "traitors" like jesus. they called people like him "prophets" as they were talking about davids kingdom, which the romans didn't want to happen. that's why jesus was killed on the cross as everyone who did the thing jesus did.
the modern king james bible talks about jesus being crucified with "regular thieves", which is a translation error. in reality, jesus was crucified with "criminals" (which is the real translation for the word they translated to "theives") who did similar crimes to his.Obviously Son Goku. Even if Superman was stronger at the beginning, Goku would eventually surpass him as every defeat would only make him stronger.
Rom 10:9
1cor 15:1-4
I think are the major concepts he hopes we can understand. If not then I don't know...If you saw your children were playing in the street I think you would guide them away.
If a threat will protect , you wouldn't do it?
Or what about if guidelines in society are in place that promote saftey and they are completely ignored by the public. As a pres or PM would you be happy?I will proct them from actual danger. You know like a car that may run them over. And I will protect them by made up delusions by educating them about the fallacies of faith.
I think the Christian religion is a dangerous mind prison and not a savior.Protect them from not by xD*
What would you call people discussing if Superman is stronger or son Goku? I think they're nitwits, cause the content of their discussion has nothing to do with any real thing. Just like the discussion in faith.Are you aware that there are at least 4 rock solid logical arguments for God's existence?
Cosmological Argument
Ontological Argument
Moral Argument
Chaos Argument (Mine)
1) Without God would be a condition of Chaos.
2) chaos means anything can happen, because there are no laws outside of Chaos itself.
3) If anything can happen, then an Almighty God can exist.
4) An Almighty God can turn Chaos into Order
5) Therefore The Greatest Conceivable Being does exist and it is Chaos.
6) Therefore Almighty God does exist, because if Chaos can Create an Almighty God, then Chaos must be Almighty God to begin with.
This is a reducto ad-absurdum. If there is no God, there is a God anyway.
Therefore the "Greatest Conceivable Being" can in fact exist and not exist simultaneously.@Bananaman177
Superman is an exaggerated version of the Hebrew Messiah and is pretty much unbeatable in a versus debate. The only fictional character that could beat Superman would be Yahweh himself.
Superman can stand inside the Sun and power himself up, and he has Telepathy and Telekinesis, and can vibrate his molecules so fast that Doomsday annot hit him with a punch, his fist passes right trhough his body wihtout hurting him. Superman can do Doppleganger and be in literally 10 locations simultaneously.@Wade8888 Yeah, but does Superman have any compunctions against killing? Especially killing someone who is not evil, and is in fact, perfectly pure of heart and morally righteous?
Superman would have to be in some kind of fugue state to fight seriously against a non-villain, no?
- Two fake Christians arguing about which of them is more phony.0|00|0
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- All the questions asked were basically why are Christians against liberal political views. This wasn’t an actual talk about various Christians and different perspectives.1|00|0
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