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- I may just be repeating what someone else said but God always answers prayer. Yes no or wait, seem to be his usual answers. I know the Bible speaks of God being a jealous God. His jealousy is not like and immature jealousy such as a child want another child's toy. His jealousy is, like all his Commandments, for our good. Many May disagree with me. I believe that God is wise enough to know that if we're concentrating on him and his will for our life we will be the most Blessed that we can be. I absolutely believe God can bring us some one, as long as we keep things in perspective. What's God first and our mate second.1|10|2Is this still revelant?
This has to be one of the dumbest thing I ever heard and clearly a desperate attempt to keep believing in something illogical. Yes, no or wait? So, like every magical character? Santa also answers that, so does a coin-flip, so does nothing.
P. S. Jealousy is never mature, stop making excuses.JeromePel---- Jerome I never assumed that what I had to say would be taken well are completely understood. I will not try to explain something that you clearly have your mind made up about anyway. I appreciate your candor. And I hope that you have a good day. I'm 55 years old, these things that I have tried to explain I have also lived.
As I explained to someone last night I typed in a wrong number on my age and have since tried to go back and correct it but anyway I'm 55
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Regardless of your age, bad reasoning is bad reasoning. Sorry for being a little antagonistic, but honestly, what couldn't you use the yes/no/wait excuse with? When you find yourself making excuses and logical contortions that you don't do with other beliefs or competing gods, it's worth looking at your biases and question why you tolerate bad reasoning only when it comes to the beliefs you've been indoctrinated in.
That is if you care whether or not your beliefs are true. If you just care that they feel good, I don't want to pop your bubble, peace be onto you :)P. S. My mind isn't closed, by all means, be the first one in history to find passable evidence for your proposition. Before you do tho, again, ask yourself if the "evidence" that convinced you is something that you'd accept for other claims, you might spot the logical fallacies before me ;)
Yes Jerome and I like your way of thinking we need to be questioning those things in which we believe. This is not something that I can completely make anyone else believe. I just know that I have prayed 4 things and that I do believe in God. The things are much I prayed for I received. Does that make God some kind of magical genie that gives us what we want? The answer is no absolutely not. But my belief is this; God is capable and he will give us things if those things AR good for us and the timing is right. The girl that started this thread asked if it was okay to pray to God to bring her a boyfriend/ mate. This is where it gets to be down to the nitty-gritty. Each one of us answer this question totally different but there's a question do I believe there's a God or do I not believe there's a God. I believe therefore I read the Bible the King James version of the Holy Bible. And to answer her question absolutely God is interested in how do we choose as a mate.
I've tried not 2 simply give my opinions here. If I Had the Time and it wasn't going to take up so much space, I could backup the things I'm saying with what is said in the word of God. But finally, we are all human and for most of us to believe in something we need some sort of proof. They are at least five different factors in my own personal life that make me a believer.
But then that means you can always rationalize is my point. This is a convenient mechanism where you can just credit God when something that was going to happen anyway happens, but when it doesn't happen, you can just say the Genie knew it wouldn't be good for you and it still confirms your bias somehow. If I see gifts under the tree it proves Santa, if I don't, I guess I've been a bad boy this year and it still proves Santa.
If you care to be reasonable, you have to find a way to falsify the belief, a way where some test could result in a failure. The Templeton foundation actually tested it and found that prayer worked at the rate of a coin-flip. When people know they're being prayed for, it's actually slightly worse, because of performance anxiety it's thought.
Follow the evidence where it leads, don't start with your conclusion then contort the facts to fit your worldview.I would say that everything that you're same here is applicable I believe in what you're saying. I don't really know what to say Jerome and I will be the first to admit that you bring up very good objectionable statements about God. I think in life we've all had something happen and if we try to explain to someone else it would be hard for them to believe or understand. That's kind of where I find myself right now and that frame of mind. The whole basis of Christianity has to do with faith. Faith doesn't need proof. Faith doesn't need a detailed map. Faith is not something that you can explain or give to someone else. Faith is given to a Christian by God. In my life I've had enough prayers answered to make me believe, and just enough prayers that I thought weren't answered to cause me to relate 2 those that don't believe. I guess it would look like I rationalize everything. The biggest proof of the Lord's presence is how much he changed me. Now there ain't nobody they can't take that away. And there ain't nobody that could give it to me but God. You neither know me now and you did not know me before let me just say this I was somewhat of a low life. I didn't care about anybody else I was concerned only about me I had no love whatsoever for strangers and I had no love even for my immediate family. God change me. Yes he did. You might say oh no you just decided to start acting like a better person. I say no any attempt to do that what only lasts a small amount of time because our human strength wear it out. Ever since I've been 22 years old I've been different and I'm 55 now. That has been done the only one that can do it, a Heavenly God. This I know in my heart
So, you believe based on faith, so does the Hindu, so does the Muslim, etc. If faith leads to both true and (statistically way more) false results, doesn't that indicate it's a pretty unreliable tool to use? Is there anything one couldn't believe based on faith? How sure am I that white people are better than black people based on reason and evidence? 0%. What if I add 20% faith? 20%. What if I add 100% faith? Well I guess I'm now 100% confident white people are better than black people. Doesn't faith just admits that you started with your conclusion and whatever confidence the evidence didn't provide you could just compensate with more faith?
I'm glad to hear you changed your life for the better, but with or without God, people change their life drastically every day. I definitely was a lot more selfish, less empathetic, less aware, less smart and so on in my early life, isn't that just called growing up? I find it a little sad that you would give credit to God for work you've done, this seems needlessly disempowering.There's not a reason for me to continue in this back and forth rhetoric. Thank you Jerome for the conversation. And may we all have a better year. You take care buddy.
- No, a lot of Christians are ignorant thinking God will just give u someone, he will bless u but not magically give you one you have to go out and find a partner yourself thats not satanic, you both have to be reborn again and evenly yoked1|00|0Is this still revelant?
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628- God is a fictional character made by people for for power and money. Etc etc. So no in that sense.
But if you feel the desire/need to believe in one then it's probably a good idea to pray.
As i do not believe it will work but even kind finding the words to describe your ideal man or etc can help you visualize what you are looking for in a man.
It will probably help you to stay away from men who are more "bad". Also friends with benefits and hookups are not that common on religious groups, so it helps to avoid std's and other such issues.
Which is only a good thing.0|10|0 - I prayed for years for God to help me find the woman who is meant to be my wife. I'm not sure if I'm meant to be alone or the time is just not right yet, but I've pretty much given up on it happening. Watching so many marriages fail makes it harder for me to open up to it.0|00|0
- I have prayed for a family's wife and she turned out fine, I have also prayed for my Grandfather when he had cancer, but he died, whatever you pray may not happen and it may not be miraculous but it is God's plan, he also won't give a definite answer.1|00|0
- no, i wouldn't. there's actually quite good studies showing that prayer makes people worse. i know that seems counter-intuitive but it's a psychological auto-suggestive effect. if people pray for you, shit must be really bad... and the weird part that effect even occurs if the person who's being prayed for doesn't even know about it.0|00|0
- When you pray for your spouse, pray how you would pray if you were already together. It's not just about Him bringing them into your life, it's about both of you being at the right place so you're equally yoked.0|00|0
- Well I believe that you should pray for your future marriage partner and God will really answer your prayer even if the list of traits of your future marriage partner is long and specific. He will give it to you. 💖1|00|0
- If you truly believe that might help, however putting forth an effort to find your parfner, ultimately is best. waiting for a prayer to be heard and or answered im afraid you will be waiting for eternity.0|00|0
- Not choosing an option as it is not in the poll. I'm currently doing this hopefully things will straighten out in time.1|10|0
- I think if there's one thing God can't do for you, it's this. God doesn't know what your heart wants any more than you do.0|00|0
- If you call a deafening silence, with periods of soul-crushing heartbreak and loneliness an answer to prayer, then God answered.
Apparently, God delights in my pain and wants me to die as a crazy old cat man.
I asked God for someone to love when I was a teenager. What I met were Jezebels and worse.0|01|0You can't blame God for the decisions you made in said partners. God's blessings add no sorrow.
- You mean to find one for yourself? I suppose, but the time would be better spent putting yourself in situations where you meet suitable folk.
Of course with covid, everything is messed up right now.0|00|0 - B. I did not do that.
I didn't have to. God blessed me early on in my life with a man who has all I could possibly dream of in a husband.1|00|0 - God will always answer your prayer. Doesn't mean it's going to be yes. And it doesn't mean it will be what you expect. God will always give you what you need. Not what you want.1|11|1
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@aestheticcxx well first of all you need to be specific. This is your problem you're looking for that " gotcha" where you prove god flawed or doesn't exist. And you can't and that angers you.
Umm no. First of all, you said “god will always give you what you need. Not what you want.” But clearly he has not given everyone what they need.
It’s funny how bible thumpers get so offended when someone disagrees with their religion, especially when all the person did was ask a question😂
- Where is the option where "God gives no fuck".
Grow up man.0|00|0Thank you for caring. It's just that faith is becoming nonsensical for me. And It is very humiliating to ask God for a partner when you know you deserve that.
- I'd really wish that to be the case but I think God has his own timing and won't give us something until it's time to receive it or until we are ready for it0|20|0
- No, I think it's our responsibility here on earth to find the people who are meant to be ours.1|10|0
- of course! We should always pray for the Lord and He will always listen to us, giving us what we need (sometimes not what we want)...1|00|0
- Imaginary beings aren't going to help you. You'll only get what you seek by making the effort. Reaching out.1|11|1
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@Yuuibtony Your racism is uncalled for. Please be civil.
But to answer your question, I don't know? Is 135 a lot? I don't pay attention to followers.
- Have you or anyone you know, ever seen god? Praying is a habit or belief which gives us confidence.0|00|0
- I always think God will answer with blessings if it's his will0|00|0
- The best anyone can say is “I don’t know”. There’s been no proof of answered prayer.0|00|0
actually there's quite good studies conducted that show strong evidence for a negative effect of prayer, even if the intention was good.
@genericname85 yes, and what is their conclusion? That thinking good thoughts help physical issues. Not that there’s a higher power.
well of course it didn't conclude "there's a higher power", cause there is no such thing. they actually concluded that "being prayed for" actually makes a patient worse. if i remember correctly, it were psychosomatic autosuggestive effects at work. a positive mindset has of course positive effects on a patiens healing, though prayer seems to have the opposite effect, even if the test subject was not informed that they were being prayed to. i guess psychologically speaking: if you think someone could die, you treat them differently than if you think they will surely be healthy soon. that's probably where that comes from.
- You can if they're sick. Otherwise no. Don't pray to win the lottery either. That really bugs Him.0|00|0
- No fo out and meet people possibly at church or hop on some Christian dating apps.1|00|0
- No you shouldn't pray to something that doesn't exist.0|10|0
- Fictional beings aren't real so they can't answer you.
"Man created God and saw it was profitable"0|00|1Well, who created man to show stupidity... because "man" sure don't make wise decisions on this earth. The world is jacked up.
God is real.
I don't pay any money to know he exist.
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- Yes you should, and yes he will.1|10|0
Tell me, what do you wish for? The the things that are nice to have, but the deep desires. The ones that fill you with longing, and are so intense you hesitate to name them.
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- I'm not sure if it works like that.0|00|0
- Nonthing wrong with it1|00|0
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