I can't speak for the rest, but the first one is a fairly simple phenomenon where the leaves act as miniature pinhole cameras (https://whyy. org/articles/see-the-solar-eclipse-using-natures-pinhole-camera-tree-leaves/).
But sometimes these assholes are wrong
It's still better than blindly believing in something some asshole wrote in a fucking book long time ago which explains almost everything based on huge assumptions which can't be proven anytime sooner. Just like a child blindly believing whatever it's written in story books but i respect that, you at least have some sort of imaginary support which is great. Similarly i have mine.
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Jesus is God, and trust me he was a he.
@888theGreat I respect your opinion! I recommend you read The Shack! Great book.
God is perfect and all good. What you do with your soul is all on you or anyone else who isn't worth taking care of themselves. Ya kids die and world gets devestations. It's humans own lack of caring. We destroy earth daily. Fracking, dumping on lakes and oceans, then ruin food and air. Then we wanna blame god on evil ways. God wants us to see how evil can destroy the world. Look how 4.25% of world population destroying 6 billion people's land and food. Why isn't god getting involved. It wouldn't be fair. Period. He would be taking sides. He wants us to stand up.
@DaMack999 Exactly. Humans are the root of suffering.
That's true. If we were ever created the only possibilities I would see would aliens or that we are simulations
i find it quite stupid that people mention "buddha" as god xD cause that's exactly contrary to what the story of "the buddha" actually is.
Yeah I know most people refer to prince Siddhartha Gautama.
yeah :D i think he can be quite accurately compared to Forrest Gump. he found that thing that gave his live meaning and fullfilled him spiritually. and people noticed and looked up to him, consequently immitating them, not knowing that what works for one person will not work for the next :D siddharta actually pointed that out but people still made a cult following what he did like tha stupid goose they are xD
man using the word "spiritually" makes me cringe. people tend to sort of know what i mean if i say that word but it does not mean anything meaningfull actually. i should use "mind" instead.
This could be plausible with the simulation theory.
Can't be a Christian if you don't trust him. Like me saying I have a PhD because I went to college
There is no ultimate reason. I believe that it's up to the person to find his own reason.
What arguments and proven facts support this "fact"?
Ah, the atheists fain ignorance as usual.Pretend as though you don't know my testimony, because you can only lie to yourself once I've said my peace.I've presented four rational arguments here which show that there is in fact an Almighty God and he is Greater than our greatest conception of Him.I've presented personal testimony, such as seeing an Archangel tell me my sister's cancer was cured.If you choose to reject this, that's your own foolishness, but it's nothing for me to be concerned about.Keep pretending to be ignorant, you hear? you're even dumber than you look.
I'm not here to make "friends" or "Converts" either. I'm here to bear witness against willfully ignorant and willfully evil people.As long as I've been on this section of this forum, every regular member should know my arguments by now, unless you're jus ta liar.
Let's just stick to the Ontological Argument, because when it comes to God and Goodness and Heaven, All Roads do not lead to Rome.Ontological ARgument.1) God as we Understand Him is a Being than which no greater being can be conceived.2) A Being that exists in reality is greater than a being that exists only in the mind.3) Therefore the Greatest Being that actually exists is God.4) Therefore we can't be imagining God.5) Therefore God exists, AND He is greater than our Greatest Conception of Him.
I like this quote. "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours"
For example, it's not physically possible to conceive of something greater than God, because you cannot understand the laws of physics (speed of light postulate forbids us from every knowing everything about the Universe). Now because you can't even conceive of what the Universe is, how can you conceive of what created the Universe?Therefore our Greatest Conception of God is less than the actual Being of the True Creator... which is fine, because we are assured that we will grow in the afterlife "from Glory to Glory", meaning there is always another layer of God's reality to be peeled back like an onion to learn about.So anyway, that's the Ontological Argument."I think, therefore God MUST exist."
there is only one possible God. There is no such thing as "multiple Gods", that's why the Jews and chrisitans and Muslims have the First commandment.I only worship THE TRUE CREATOR, and I don't care what his name is and I don't care about "religion".When I pray my sole intention is towards THE TRUE CREATOR, and when I worship my sole intention is towards THE TRUE CREATOR.I am not concerned with naming God and I am not concerned with Religion; Other than proving provably false relgions are false anyway..If you think I'm "close to becoming an Atheist" you are totally mistaken and deceiving yourself. I'm more of a believer in God than probably any other human being alive in this generation, and I'm not about to convert to Atheism or agnosticism for any reason.
I think its possibly a satirical representation of the artist's own interpretation of God.
Ah, that would certainly make sense.
@pizzapizzapizza He thought God was a homosexual
It's same with all religions
the bible says that you have to try and live a certain way, it also says you'll fail but if you really were covered by Jesus' blood then you'll go to heaven.
It does. I've studied a lot of religions because I love the mythology but I don't believe in any of them.
ah, that's cool.
Thanks. Have a nice day.
you too bro
Only if you get up there. Right? "Elephant with eight arms sat up there"... This sentence of yours proves that you have no idea about what you're talking about. Perhaps, you should try to learn/ know before mocking, that's what wise people do!
@ProfoundNflawed actually wise people tend to have a sense of humour because no one can know it all
There's a thin line between insulting someone's religious beliefs and being actually funny. Whatever you said isn't humourous in anyway!
@ProfoundNflawed how is the use of the word ''if'' insulting? whether you see my humour or not is a question for yourself
You very well know what I am talking about. Don't try to dodge it. I marked, whatever I felt is an insult, in quotation marks in my first reply to you!
@ProfoundNflawed and you know for a fact that ganesh isn't in charge do you? hence the word ''if''.
As much as you think Jesus/Allah is in charge, we would believe ours are. Stop trying to put down others beliefs so that you can make yourself feel better. You're not achieving anything!
@ProfoundNflawed im an athiest actually and respect the fact other people have their own beliefs... you dont know me and obviously dont understand satire so lets leave it there shall we?
"I'm an atheist" is rather a lame excuse used after mocking others beliefs. I've seen many staunch Christians using the same excuse. And my belief isn't your satire FYI, try again!
@ProfoundNflawed triggered much
There's no such thing as an 'atheist ideology'. Atheism is just the absence of believe in any god claim. Outside of that atheism has no tenets.
leninism as well
there are types of atheism as well. as weak and strong
@blackdaugh Those aren't atheist ideologies. They just happen to not have gods. You wouldn't say that Marxism is a tenet of non-stamp collecting just because it doesn't involve collecting stamps.
@CountessSarah No, Marxism is a materalistic/atheistic ideology. Marx himself even was a strong atheist, that’s why all nations which follow that ideology also follow state atheism. For example, we say marxism is an atheistic ideology not because of its not having god. we say it’s an atheistic ideology because it includes atheism inside itself. got it? also, make sure nobody will say capitalism is an atheistic ideology because its not having god. Neither does it have atheism. But the same cannot be said for marxism
Marxism includes atheism, that not mean Marxism is an atheist ideology. That's simply not how it works. Otherwise I could say that Nazism is a tenet of christianity because the Nazis were christian. It's a transparently stupid attempt to demonise one thing by drawing nonsense lines to other things.
Facts are supported by evidence.
We have the Holy Bible. We have witnesses that confirm what they saw and heard. We have Roman records that verify when Jesus was executed. We have predictions made years earlier in bible that came to pass. We have arch digs that found items mentioned in the bible. We have Israel. There is far more evidence of Jesus and God than Global Warming. Only fools deny that and Hell awaits those.
That's all nice but none of it is 100% valid
For example the predictions even Simpsons made a lot of predictions.
Listening to people here just proves what I have said , only 1% of men and women ever born , since Adam and Eve will make it to heaven. Mostly Angels and aborted babies will be there.
In your opinion, will everyone else go to hell.
96% to 99% will, yes.
How do you think hell looks like?
Have no idea. I know you have all the diseases that were here. Women will be disfigured and made to see their reflections. The pain will be so bad and you never get to stop it. No pain killers. No pot. You are never allowed to sleep. Imagine here on earth trying not to sleep ever. You would forget your own name in just one week.
So you worship a god that's evil
so is jesus since roughly 2000 years xD just saying.
@genericname85 Christ died for our sins (G) according to the Scriptures,(H) 4 that he was buried,(I) that he was raised (J) on the third day (K) according to the ScripturesFrom 1cor 15 and other passages.
Yeah everyone knows that cheesy nonsense story. But you think he was just alive forever after that stunt where he fooled people into thinking nhebwas dead?
@genericname85 he was with God when earth was created. He came to earth in the form of a baby.
@888theGreat yeah well many people seem to think that he and god are somehow the same, yet he argues and even disagrees with god sometimes, which opens the question: at what point was the entity "jesus" created and why does that entity not quite share the same opinion with god sometimes? cause that's not really mentioned. it's all up to interpretation and as we all know, human interpretation sucks xDof course, we wouldn't even have to discuss that, if we just accepted the fact that jesus was simply mariah and josephs bastard and the "son of god" thing just a bullshit cover-up so that jesus can have his blood right of being a jewish tribe leader in the bloodline of jacob, which was one of the 12 jewish tribe leaders, hence: part of israels government that was in place before the romans took the place, which is commonly referred to as "gods kingdom" or "davids kingdom" as to avoid being lynched for being a traitor by the romans (which eventually was what happened to jesus anyway, as the story goes). the reality is pretty damn mundane. that's why i kind of dislike those fantasy discussions xD
sorry for speaking in endless sentences. it's a bad habit of mine.
@genericname85 He was not created by Joe's Sperm. So , he was not a bastard and they were married anyway. God and Jesus never argued. Jesus destiny was chosen when he was up in heaven with God before he came to earth.
@888theGreat yeah right :D just like clinton famously said "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky" such things are human and not new. i wouldn't even believe if you told me people actually believed such dumb things in the past, if i didn't know such people are still around today xD
mariah was josephs girlfriend... and you rather believe they did not have sex but instead but some devine god impregnated that girl? i litterally can not believe that anyone would think that is actually true.
It means to be like Christ or Christ like. You mean you dislike religion, which there are many and most are wrong.
@888theGreat well obviously Christianity of the religion and Christ is the man behind it. I love him very much. I cannot stand Christianity.
I see. Wakan Tanka, the Great Spirit.
Nope, not W Tanka. The God of the Bible, the Christian God, the only one that is true, all others being demonstrably false.
Yes they are just as the god in the bible.
They're not though. Is Tlaloc real? Shiva? Quetzalcoatl, Zeus or Isis? Of course not, because they were local "gods" the more primitive and irrational among us thought were real, but St. Paul clearly tells us what to look for when searching for the true God (the Areopagus Sermon in Acts). www.americanrhetoric.com/.../paulatathens.html
All the religions are local. Europeans never landed on an island and be like *look the natives are Christians and stuff.
Well... no. The spread of Christianity of course had to begin somewhere, and it did from the first century in the Roman province of Palestine. It didn't just magically pop up all over the globe simultaneously. Now it exists across the globe, and is found everywhere (even Antarctica). The other religions and gods died out because they were false, they were deceptions of the devil. Islam, Buddhism and Hinduism will eventually die as well, as they deserve to, because they are leading millions astray. "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away" - Matthew 24:35
That's not really true. If Atheism was a religion it would be the fastest growing one.
"If atheism was a religion" - It may not be a religion per se, but it certainly is a philosophy, one that is ultimately untenable, because it is fundamentally irrational and illogical. Atheism is dying, not growing. Atheists only believe it's growing because in certain parts of the West it is, but they make the mistake of thinking that this trend is global, which it is not.
Well it is growing in places were people prosper and I would like to ask what's so irrational about not believing in some all powerful space wizard?
I don't believe in an all-powerful space wizard. Whatever gave you the impression I did?
Then what is your god and who created him? (it was human imagination)
God, by definition, doesn't have a creator (a creator of God would lead to an infinite regression of contingent causes). Look into the non-contingency argument for the existence of God, and you'll understand why God simply MUST exist.
"Science can't explain everything but religion explains nothing.""Why should I that same god to tell me how to raise my kids who had to drown his own.""Forget Jesus! The stars died so you could be here today. Every atom of your body came from a star that exploded.""It's easier to fool people than convince them they've been fooled."
It's clear to me that you are just not interested in examining ideas that you seem to be uncomfortable with. Those quotes are silly, they're meaningless.
Everything is meaningless in it's purest form. You are the one than finds the meaning.
Really? Including the statement that "everything is meaningless"?
The point is not that it's meaningless. You have the power to give it a meaning
You claimed that everything is meaningless. If so, then the claim itself is meaningless, and I therefore can ignore it, because it's a self-defeating claim. It means nothing to me, and should mean nothing to you as well.Atheists have a rather nasty habit of making claims like this quite often, whilst failing to realise how it seriously undermines their position.
ONLY ONE. YOUR FATHER GOD. JESUS FATHER. xx
Amen sister. Most no matter what you say will die lost and suffer for eternity. They will be foolish like the people of Noah's time. The ones that laughed at the Ark. The same ones that left fingernails in ship trying to get in as their souls headed for Hell. Saying "help me , help me" . " I won't deny you". "I will quit having sex with every woman in town". Too late.
@888theGreat My Bro!!! xxoo