Hellenic Greeks intrest me also as they set up colonies as far west as Spain, as far north as odessa, as far south as India and as far east as the himalayas and Chinese boarder. Greeks may have even settled in china
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Official history actually say he did exist. It’s the other stuff everyone questions
@R3DthatDude Actually no, it doesn't. The only source of anything ever to do with Jesus is straight from the gospels which are religious scripture and not real history.
The first-century Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, who according to Ehrman “is far and away our best source of information about first-century Palestine,” twice mentions Jesus in Jewish Antiquities, his massive 20-volume history of the Jewish people that was written around 93 A. D.Thought to have been born a few years after the crucifixion of Jesus around 37 A. D., Josephus was a well-connected aristocrat and military leader in Palestine who served as a commander in Galilee during the first Jewish Revolt against Rome between 66 and 70 A. D. Although Josephus was not a follower of Jesus, “he was around when the early church was getting started, so he knew people who had seen and heard Jesus,” Mykytiuk says.In one passage of Jewish Antiquities that recounts an unlawful execution, Josephus identifies the victim, James, as the “brother of Jesus-who-is-called-Messiah.” While few scholars doubt the short account’s authenticity, says Mykytiuk, more debate surrounds Josephus’s lengthier passage about Jesus, known as the “Testimonium Flavianum,” which describes a man “who did surprising deeds” and was condemned to be crucified by Pilate. Mykytiuk agrees with most scholars that Christian scribes modified portions of the passage but did not insert it wholesale into the text.Another account of Jesus appears in Annals of Imperial Rome, a first-century history of the Roman Empire written around 116 A. D. by the Roman senator and historian Tacitus. In chronicling the burning of Rome in 64 A. D., Tacitus mentions that Emperor Nero falsely blamed “the persons commonly called Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius.”As a Roman historian, Tacitus did not have any Christian biases in his discussion of the persecution of Christians by Nero, says Ehrman.
Shortly before Tacitus penned his account of Jesus, Roman governor Pliny the Younger wrote to Emperor Trajan that early Christians would “sing hymns to Christ as to a god.” Some scholars also believe Roman historian Suetonius references Jesus in noting that Emperor Claudius had expelled Jews from Rome who “were making constant disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus.”Ehrman says this collection of snippets from non-Christian sources may not impart much information about the life of Jesus, “but it is useful for realizing that Jesus was known by historians who had reason to look into the matter. No one thought he was made up.”
@R3DthatDude The Josephus account has been proven to be a forgery by Eusebius. The Tacitus account provides no source. Both could only originate from the gospels anyway. There is no historical record of Jesus.
To be fair to Josephus, Jesus was a fairly common Jewish name ie Jesus Barrabus.Christianity didn't just spring out of nowhere, it came from the Jews.
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