Is it possible that God is evil or Satan is to blame for everything?

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I know that God is not evil but the thought occurred that some people are created ugly whike others are stunning.
Some have poverty and no matter what people say about it being their choice etc they are unable to get out because of elite agenda and branding them as criminal in eyes of the law

Answer 1

NamerOfStars | 455 opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic.

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Take a look at the book of Genesis: God tells Adam and Eve not to eat of the fruit of the tree of Knowledge, "for on the day you eat of it, you shall surely die". Seems rather a sizeable design flaw, and one easily corrected; a shame God didn't have the power to do that. Then along comes a serpent, who says that no, that's not true. And since God couldn't be bothered to explain why; Eve agrees with the serpent and eats the fruit, then has Adam do the same. And do they die that day? No; they both lived for several centuries more. God lied. But perhaps that was meant as a metaphor; as "eat the fruit and you will become mortal". Some clarity would be much appreciated here; that poor snake may just have misunderstood. But it went off and showed the world that limbs are for suckers; so that's okay. Let's look deeper.

Take a peek at Exodus: the Pharaoh of Egypt has the proto-Jews in captivity, and this angers God. So He gets Moses to tell him to let them go. Take a close look at the text here: it does not say "Pharaoh's heart was hard"; it says "God hardened Pharaoh's heart". Then the plagues began, culminating with the slaughter of thousands of innocent children, all because God couldn't stop grabbing the Pharaoh's hand and saying "Stop plaguing yourself! Stop plaguing yourself!". (It's particularly egregious in light of what would happen when the civic authorities killed just ONE of His kids). Later, when the sea rushes back in and drowns the charioteers, and the soon-to-be-Israelites are dancing on the far shore, God shows up and asks "Why are you celebrating? Those were my children too!". This suggests a deity who, if not outright evil, at least has some serious mental problems.

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Answer 2

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Even Joseph whas send in jail, acused for rapeing a noble wife, his brothers sell him as a slave and still, become Pharaoh.
This is an example just to say that evry person have theyr own duty in this world. God created us for a purpose and we need to help God in It creation by doing our jobs.
All the people, good, bad, beautifuls, ugly have an influence on the other people. By listening to the God teachings we are doing that duty in a good way.

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Wade8888

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Joseph did not become Pharaoh, he became the second ruler in the land for 14 years, and after that his power was removed.

Joseph INCORRECTLY sold his own people into slavery.

The entire story is fiction anyway, there is no evidence whatsoever that this ever happened, and if anythign like this had happened, the Egyptians all would have converted to worshiping Yahweh instead of 500 other gods and goddesses.

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Opinion Owner

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@Wade8888 You can convert to iudaism as long you don't have a family member from that religion. Joseph whas sold by his own brother in slavery and he save the Egyp from starvation.

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Wade8888

Joseph did not become Pharaoh, he became the second ruler in the land for 14 years, and after that his power was removed.

Joseph INCORRECTLY sold his own people into slavery.

The entire story is fiction anyway, there is no evidence whatsoever that this ever happened, and if anythign like this had happened, the Egyptians all would have converted to worshiping Yahweh instead of 500 other gods and goddesses.

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Opinion Owner

@Wade8888 You can convert to iudaism as long you don't have a family member from that religion. Joseph whas sold by his own brother in slavery and he save the Egyp from starvation.

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sungie28

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God is not and will never be evil please never think of it that way. Read your bible oftenly and you will understand better.

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devilman666

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What do you think about 2 kings 2:23-24? What about Exodus 21: 2-12? Leviticus 25: 44-46?

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devilman666

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The story of Jepthah?

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Asker

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@devilman666 what are they about?

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devilman666

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@Asker why dont you read them for yourself and tell me what you think they're about? If you struggle I can explain my interpretation.

2 kings 2:23-24
23 From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!” 24 He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys.

Exodus 21: 2-12
2 “If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything. 3 If he comes alone, he is to go free alone; but if he has a wife when he comes, she is to go with him. 4 If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free.
5 “But if the servant declares, ‘I love my master and my wife and children and do not want to go free, 6 then his master must take him before the judges. He shall take him to the door or the doorpost and pierce his ear with an awl. Then he will be his servant for life.
7 “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. 8 If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. 9 If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. 10 If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. 11 If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.

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Asker

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@devilman666 how is it relevant?

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devilman666

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Leviticus 25: 44-46
44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

The story of jephthah is relatively long, spanning the entire chapter of Judges 11.
Judges 11:
1Jephthah the Gileadite was a mighty warrior. His father was Gilead; his mother was a prostitute. 2Gilead’s wife also bore him sons, and when they were grown up, they drove Jephthah away. “You are not going to get any inheritance in our family,” they said, “because you are the son of another woman.” 3So Jephthah fled from his brothers and settled in the land of Tob, where a gang of scoundrels gathered around him and followed him.

4Some time later, when the Ammonites were fighting against Israel, 5the elders of Gilead went to get Jephthah from the land of Tob. 6“Come,” they said, “be our commander, so we can fight the Ammonites.”

7Jephthah said to them, “Didn’t you hate me and drive me from my father’s house? Why do you come to me now, when you’re in trouble?”

8The elders of Gilead said to him, “Nevertheless, we are turning to you now; come with us to fight the Ammonites, and you will be head over all of us who live in Gilead.”

9Jephthah answered, “Suppose you take me back to fight the Ammonites and the Lord gives them to me—will I really be your head?”

10The elders of Gilead replied, “The Lord is our witness; we will certainly do as you say.” 11So Jephthah went with the elders of Gilead, and the people made him head and commander over them. And he repeated all his words before the Lord in Mizpah.

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devilman666

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12Then Jephthah sent messengers to the Ammonite king with the question: “What do you have against me that you have attacked my country?”
13The king of the Ammonites answered Jephthah’s messengers, “When Israel came up out of Egypt, they took away my land from the Arnon to the Jabbok, all the way to the Jordan. Now give it back peaceably.”
14Jephthah sent back messengers to the Ammonite king, 15saying:
“This is what Jephthah says: Israel did not take the land of Moab or the land of the Ammonites. 16But when they came up out of Egypt, Israel went through the wilderness to the Red Sea and on to Kadesh. 17Then Israel sent messengers to the king of Edom, saying, ‘Give us permission to go through your country,’ but the king of Edom would not listen. They sent also to the king of Moab, and he refused. So Israel stayed at Kadesh.
18“Next they traveled through the wilderness, skirted the lands of Edom and Moab, passed along the eastern side of the country of Moab, and camped on the other side of the Arnon. They did not enter the territory of Moab, for the Arnon was its border.
19 “Then Israel sent messengers to Sihon king of the Amorites, who ruled in Heshbon, and said to him, ‘Let us pass through your country to our own place.’ 20 Sihon, however, did not trust Israel to pass through his territory. He mustered all his troops and encamped at Jahaz and fought with Israel.
21 “Then the Lord, the God of Israel, gave Sihon and his whole army into Israel’s hands, and they defeated them. Israel took over all the land of the Amorites who lived in that country, 22 capturing all of it from the Arnon to the Jabbok and from the desert to the Jordan.

23“Now since the Lord, the God of Israel, has driven the Amorites out before his people Israel, what right have you to take it over? 24Will you not take what your god Chemosh gives you? Likewise, whatever the Lord our God has given us, we will possess.

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devilman666

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25Are you any better than Balak son of Zippor, king of Moab? Did he ever quarrel with Israel or fight with them?
26For three hundred years Israel occupied Heshbon, Aroer, the surrounding settlements and all the towns along the Arnon. Why didn’t you retake them during that time?
27I have not wronged you, but you are doing me wrong by waging war against me. Let the Lord, the Judge, decide the dispute this day between the Israelites and the Ammonites.”
28The king of Ammon, however, paid no attention to the message Jephthah sent him.
29Then the Spirit of the Lord came on Jephthah. He crossed Gilead and Manasseh, passed through Mizpah of Gilead, and from there he advanced against the Ammonites. 30And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord: “If you give the Ammonites into my hands, 31whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the Lord’s, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.”
32Then Jephthah went over to fight the Ammonites, and the Lord gave them into his hands. 33He devastated twenty towns from Aroer to the vicinity of Minnith, as far as Abel Keramim. Thus Israel subdued Ammon.

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devilman666

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34When Jephthah returned to his home in Mizpah, who should come out to meet him but his daughter, dancing to the sound of timbrels! She was an only child. Except for her he had neither son nor daughter. 35When he saw her, he tore his clothes and cried, “Oh no, my daughter! You have brought me down and I am devastated. I have made a vow to the Lord that I cannot break.”
36“My father,” she replied, “you have given your word to the Lord. Do to me just as you promised, now that the Lord has avenged you of your enemies, the Ammonites. 37But grant me this one request,” she said. “Give me two months to roam the hills and weep with my friends, because I will never marry.”
38“You may go,” he said. And he let her go for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never marry. 39After the two months, she returned to her father, and he did to her as he had vowed. And she was a virgin.
From this comes the Israelite tradition 40that each year the young women of Israel go out for four days to commemorate the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite.

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devilman666

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@Asker I interpret these verses to be evil, and I would like to know her opinion on them. If you have one, I'd like to hear it as well.

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devilman666

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To summarize the story of Jephthah, he was a warrior, he asked god to give him victory and he promised to God that he would sacrifice whatever/whoever came out of the door of his house to greet when he returned from the battle. He ended up winning, and when he returned home, his daughter ran out to greet him, so he sacrificed her as a burnt offering.

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devilman666

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Burnt offering (wikipedia): A burnt offering in Judaism (Hebrew: קָרְבַּן עוֹלָה‎, korban olah) is a form of sacrifice first described in the Hebrew Bible. The term is first used of the sacrifices of Noah. As a tribute to God, a burnt offering was entirely burnt on the altar. A sacrifice (short for sacrifice of well-being) was partly burnt and most of it eaten in communion at a sacrificial meal.

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devilman666

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(Wikipedia) :

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Wade8888

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@devilman666
I think whoever wrote that didn't know a single thing about love or justice, and sure as hell didn't know the real God.

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devilman666

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@Wade8888 it's all straight from the bible, so is the bible wrong? If so then how much is wrong? What parts?

2 timothy 3:16-17
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

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devilman666

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@sungie28 I'm sorry if I come off as rude, I just want to know people's interpretations and discuss it.

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devilman666

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@Wade8888 by the way I ask so much because I view myself as a student of Socrates (an ancient greek philosopher). Just before drinking poison (he was sentenced to death by a court for corrupting the youth by turning them away from the greek gods, they gave him a choice to drink poison and die on his own terms, or to be executed publically), Socrates said, "an unexamined life is not worth living", from this I understand that questioning the world around us is how we learn and grow. I try to question everything, and to encourage others to do the same. When I ask questions like this, it's typically not to shame or hurt others, but rather to push them to examine themselves, or else to help me understand their perspective, typicay a mixture of the two.

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devilman666

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Typically a mixture of of the two* (sorry for typo)

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Wade8888

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@devilman666
there's all sorts of contradictions all over the Bible. About the only book worth reading is Proverbs, and even that isn't 100% reliable.

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devilman666

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@Wade8888 I agree and disagree. There are contradictions, but I think there is some value in Christianity. Nothing special or unique that you can't find elsewhere, but certain parts, like the stories of Jesus, can teach morals.

if you don't mind me asking, what do you believe?

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devilman666

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Also nothing is 100% reliable, not even the human brain. Things lile schizophrenia exists, and therefore we can never be certain whether the things we see, hear, smell, feel, and taste are real or illusions of our mind, for all we know everything could be a hallucination our brain is making up while we're in a coma or something, or we could be in a simulation like the matrix, so reliability and certainty are never ever 100%

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devilman666

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