What do u think about muslim people?

- Muslim people are like everyone else in the world, there's some good-hearted Muslim's and there's some evil ones.
I work with a Muslim guy and he's a really good friend. He's has a good heart. But a Muslim woman that I know is awful person. She's devious, manipulative and a liar. I don't assume someone's good or bad based on their religion. I judge them based on how I perceive them as a person0|00|0Is this still revelant?
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- Anonymous21 dWhy some of them cover theyr face like Midle East country and others don't like Turkey?
Why some of thous whit black flag grups want to throw blood in the name of divinity?
How they religios start and why they don't belive like us christians?
Why theyr religion leade theyr country and not the democraty?
I think they are a strange uniqe people, whit a huge respect for theyr religions and tradition and whit a very powerfool spirit of prezervation theyr fate and religion.
I'm a christian ortodox.1|00|1Is this still revelant?Why do some Christians speak in tongues and some dont? Why do sone Christians practise baptism and some don't? The answer is different denominations. Just as Christians have different denominations, Muslims are the same, there are many denominations of Islam, the largest two are called Sunni and Shia.
Headscarfs were banned in Turkey after the 1980 coup attempt, it was only unbanned in 2013 so the tradition there has become to not wear it.
I dont know what you mean by "throw blood in the name of divinity?".
Their religion started when Muhammed called himself a prophet, Jews and Christians ignored him, so the people who followed him became known as Muslims. Muslims have the same old testament as Christians, their faith originates from the jewish faith, just like christianity. They believe Jesus was a prophet but not the son of God.
It depends on the country, some Muslim countries are theocratic but as far as I am aware, most of them already are democratic. For example, Iran has elections, they are led by democracy. Now in all fairness muslims let their religion have a large impact on their world views but Christians do that too.To give further understanding, this is what the Quran saya about Hijab: And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their private parts; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their khimār over their breasts and not display their beauty except to their husband, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments.
Many muslims argue about "that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof", means. Some think it means cover the hair, some think it means to cover everything but the eyes (burqa/burka), some think it means to just be conservative and not wear clothes that try to show off your skin and body.- Show All Show Less
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@devilman666 All Christians practise baptism, but some of them do it lather in theyr life because they interpet the bible in a diferent way.
Protestant do it at a more old age will Ortodox do it afther 6 weeks.
Is a diferent interpretation of Jesus like.
Muhammed say himself he is a profet.
We humans called him the messiah. Jesus, he called himself, like us, today children of one father.
Which is not wrong. But we Christians have truly called him the son of God and the promised messiah.
When i say blood in the name of divinity i mean, about ISIS and AL-Quaida who say they need to destroy thous who don't belive, that mean by killing them.
All our priests speak so that everyone can understand. Those who do not understand the words of the priests are sent to read and search.
Those who are unable to understand receive a more direct and limited response.
Simply put, no, not all Christian denominations practice baptism. Check this link: owlcation.com/.../Which-Religions-Practice-Baptism-Which-Do-Not
With that said there are dozens of other practices I could mention that Christian denominations dont agree on, so your argument is invalid. My point is simply that not all denominations of one faith are the same.
Nobody refers to Mohammed, "the messiah", only Christians refer to Jesus as "the messiah". You said humans in general.
Okay, should I bring up Christian terrorist organizations? They exist too, infact non-muslims make up the majority of terrorists in the USA, it's just that we only ever hear about the muslim terrorists on the news.
www.fbi.gov/.../terrorism-2002-2005#terror_05sum
I can reference biblical verses commanding you to kill non-believers, if you want.
What do you mean by "all our priests speak so that everyone can understand"? What about priests who speak in tongues?
What kind of response do you give to those who are unable to understand?- Opinion Owner20 d
@devilman666 Ther are only 3 Christianity.
Chatolic
Orthodox
Protestants
Any other for of Christianity is not an official one, no recognised, just whit theyr own interpretation and less spirituality.
Comparing Protestants whit Ortodox, the Protestants don't respect all the traditions and the meaning of them. They say they baptaise as an adult.
But it's say that in be bible/holy book "thous who don't come from wather and mold will not get in haven". Olso our Jesus had baptised in his mother belly, right afther he whas born and lather by ioan in Jordan rivel.
From where i'm and know, thous who use to be Chrisians and start to kill are not son of God.
All the terorist, at last from Christianity don't love God and have nothing to do whit It. Lmao I love when christians play this game. Half the time I hear something like "catholicism isn't christian" or something stupid like that. This however, takes stupid and ignorant to the next level. By that same token I could just as easily say that all forms of christianity are just interpretations of judaism with less faith.
Where in the bible does it say thay? Cause I have a verse for you,
John 11:25
Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die;
So apparently belief in Jesus is all that's needed to get into heaven, baptism is just an extra step you can choose to take... unless you want to argue with Jesus about it.
I can say the same thing about muslims. Any Muslims who commits murder is not a son or daughter of Allah (as it says in the quran). All the terrorists, at last from Islam don't love Allah and have nothing to do with it.
Both Christianity and Islam have verses that both condemn and support murder, and I can give examples of both in both religions.- Opinion Owner20 d
@devilman666 As a Christian Ortodox we had been victims of the cruciades.
Chatolic and Protestants are olso Christian, because all this 3 suport the same God and each one of them try to come whit corect arguments to do some rituals in a certain way. But.
Orthodox are the oldes one from the Christianity
Chatolics are the midle one
Protestants are the youngest one.
The Christianity come from Judaism 100% but we recognise Jesus as the true Son of God who save us. Judaist people i don't think they accept him as the messaiah.
Olso Orthodox Church had been as well victims of the cruciades. How were orthodox christians victims of the crusades? Well... actually I can answer that myself, the third crusade had Christian crusaders invading a christian city and pillaging it. Rip Constantinople.
There are a lot more christian denominations which support the same God as you. Are you saying baptists aren't christians? Pentecostal? Anglican? Evangelist? Methodist? They all share some rituals between them, for example, most denominations believe in baptism and all belief in the timeless ritual of prayer. Eh, you can debate which one came first with the catholics, I don't care enough to get into that.
Well you said denominations and faiths which branch from Christianity are not true because they're just interpretations of the original. If christianity is an interpretations of Judaism that considers Jesus as the son of God, then isn't it the same as all the other denominations of christianity that you don't think are christians?
You are correct, jewish people view Jesus as a prophet, not the messiah.- Opinion Owner20 d
@devilman666 Jesus whas born as jews in the iudaic religion in Israel today. Chrisitanity didn't exist at that time.
By the teaching Jesus/Messaiah say to us he give us this religion of Christianity, lather one in this starting whit 1054 (Grate skisma) Show up Chatolics and Ortodox.
Before that they exist only as Roman Church and Greek Church just for bether administration.
All denomination start to show up because some of them don't agree whit some text.
Orthodox like me don't belive like Chatolics when we talk about the holy spirit. Orthodox belive that come only from God father, not like how Chatolics belive from God Father and Son.
This is one diference whit we are 100% shure that only God Father can create and the holi spirit is imposible to come from Jesus because he can't create he can only forgive/save us.
Protestants come from Martin Luter who didn't belive is posible to buy good actions from angels by church. But they don't belive in any other book then the bible comparing whit the Ortodox who belive even is some more holy books (But still Bible is the number 1 holy book) It's your interpretation that Jesus is the Messiah. Jews don't agree with you and therefore you are interpreting their faith differently just like how Islam interprets it differently from you. I get that you think Jesus gave it to you and therefore it is the one true religion, but you're still taking the jewish faith and reinterpreting it so that Jesus is ths Messiah instead of a prophet.
So Catholicism and Orthodoxy started at the same time? I thought you said Orthodox was first?
Actually it would have been the western roman church and the eastern roman church, Byzantium (aka the eastern roman empire) was Orthodox.
I mean christianity showed up because they don't agree with the Jews that Jesus is a prophet. Orthodox and Catholic split because they didn't agree on how to interpret the scripture. So how are the other denominations any different? They're just doing what Christian's have always done, they're reinterpreting the word of God, how is that wrong?
Who says Jesus can't create? These are just your interpretations. In John 14:16-17 Jesus refers to the holy spirit as a third being that is separate from both himself and the father.
Methodists differ from protestants primarily because they rigidly stick to the rules and traditions outlined in the bible, including fasting.
Anglicans diverged from catholics because they didn't like learning from magistrates and bishops and whatnot, they believe the scripture, the word of God, is the one true teacher, words of man can never be a replacement. This led them to devoted study and creating prayer books to help younger members.
And then there's oriental orthodox and russian orthodox which I probably dont even have to explain. Orthodox probably would have split more but it got taken over by Muslims, Russians, and Communists. Yeah, I've heard of some of those other books, have you read the Apocrypha? That's the main one I know of to be honest, I haven't read those one's myself, only the bible.
- I think the religion is backwards and without any proper modernisation of several religious laws - such as they happened in christianity - islam will never be compatible with modern civilisation.
What I think of muslim people? People like all others. Some are good, some are not. But unfortunately the bad apples get justification for their insanity thanks to the backwards religion (see Isis for example).1|00|1Is this still revelant?Why will islam never be compatible with modern civilization? As you pointed out, christianity wasn't always compatible with modern civilization.
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Because thanks to reformation many things in christianity was changed and adapted. Plus the messiah in christianity is essentially a hippie as a role-model. In Islam it's a warlord and the islamic law makes it clear that the Quran is the direct word of god and thus infalliable.
Also look at verse 5 and 29: www.alim.org/quran/translation/picktal/surah/9/
The issue here is that Surah (=chapter) 9 is chronologically the last chapter in the Quran and thus overrides every more peaceful previous ones.Okay, so if christianity can reform, change, and adapt, why can't Islam? The Jewish God is a self admitted vengeful and jealous monster, yet judaism has become compatible with modern civilization, why can't Islam change?
The bible also says that the bible is the word of God and thus infallible, yet Christianity doesn't follow many of the teachings in the bible. For example, Deuteronomy 21: 18-21
“If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear.I can show you scripture in the bible that tells you to kill people, if you think the bible doesn't have verses like that then you need to read it more. I can find violent verses in the end of the bible if you want. Trust me, I've read the full thing and picked apart both parts that are moral and are immoral. The bible is no better than the Quran, they even share the same old testament.
1. Judism isn't compatible either. That's why many wealthy jewish individuals consider themselves only culturally jewish, but not religious. Read up on the jewish fundamentalists or the way many women are treated in Israel. That's no better than Islam in that regard.
2. The bible is the inspired word by god. The quran is seens as the direct word by god. There is a HUGE difference between the two. Mainly because the worst allows for failures by the people who wrote it down eventually. Essentially the quranic word is set in stone while the biblical isn't.
3. And Deuteronomy is from the old testament. Just like the very majority of violent phrases in christianity. The difference once again is - aside from the reformation - that the new testament takes precedence in the christian exegesis. On the other hand the early Quran is very peaceful until Mohammed turns from a wandering preacher to a bandit and eventually a warlord.
4. The Quran demands in it's texts to not only be the word of god and thus of spiritual guidance, but also of political guidance. Essentially there are multiple surahs that explain juridical matters - with the most prominent being the Shariah. But also matters such as taxation, etc. are described there and thus set in stone.
Those are fundamental differences. There is a reason why the most philosophical and scientific advances come almost exclusively from western (and hence christian) nations while islamic nations haven't done jackshit. And inb4 islamic golden age. Most of those scientists were very critical of Islam. Not to mention that a lot of their progress were mere further developments of greek inventions.
So many instead of being an edgy teen who turns things into black and white matters, you maybe wanna actually learn more about those matters. Christianity is by no means perfect, but there is a HUGE difference towards Islam.Mainly because the _FIRST_ allows for failures by the people who wrote it down eventually. Essentially the quranic word is set in stone while the biblical isn't.
1. Please explain what you mean, I have read up on the Jewish and Muslim faiths and I am not sure what similarities you see between the two. Also, the Christian faith originates from the same text as Judaism, so by default if Judaism is sexist towards women then the christian scriptures are too. Therefore if you think christians aren't sexist, it's because they don't follow scripture.
1 Timothy 2:11-15
Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.
2. Here's another verse for you
2 timothy 3:16-17
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Inspired by God? According to the bible it's breathed by God. How do you think Christian see the Bible as inspired by God? What is the HUGE difference between the two?
How is the biblical word not set in stone? Your 10 commandments were quite literally set in stone. Lmao
Sounds like double standards to me.
3. Is the old testament no longer the word of God? When was it removed from the Christian bible?
I agree the majority of violent texts comes from the old testament, Jesus was actually a fairly good teacher, however I don't see how this is relevant unless you throw out the old testament entirely. If you still read and worship it then it's part of your religion, you can't just pretend it doesn't exist. What do you mean by "the new testament takes precedence over in Christianity?". So you guys no longer talk about the commandments? Does this mean homosexuals are not sinners?Jesus never said anything against them, the only texts we have rebuking homosexuals are from the old testament and the opinions of Paul.
Please provide evidence that Mohammed became a bandit and a warlord.
4. I already shared a bible verse saying that scripturs is the breath of God. There are texts in the quran telling its followers to never force anyone into joining Islam. by the way Sharia is just a philosophical way of life, much like how christians consider their religion a lifestyle because they "follow in the footsteps of Jesus". I can show you biblical verses commanding to stone disrespectful children, the bible isn't all good either. I'd say they're both set in stone.
What are the fundamental differences? Please explain further. Uhm, lmao no the most philosophical advances probably came from Greece, as for scientific advancements those came in much more modern times beginning with the invention of electricity. I don't think christianity had much to do with advancing either of these subjects. Christians helped advance them, not christianity. Though I dont think they made advancements because of their religion, as many non-Christians have made huge philosophical and technological advancements. Islam is fastest growing in the world, eventually it will overtake christianity and most human inventions will be created by Muslims. The Renaissance christians were also very critical of christianity, so what's your point? Also, almost all science builds on previous science. Christians also developed greek inventions.I'm not a teen, but nice try at discounting the things I say by calling me stupid, I can be dishonest and call you names too, if you want. I have studied these matters and I dont see the difference, you just make things up to make christians look good and muslims bad. For example, which muslim scientists from the Islamic golden age were critical of islam? Before I just flipped it on you without evidence because you asserted it without evidence, but now I ask for evidence.
How is the quranic word set in stone? How is the biblical word not set in stone?
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- I have nothing against them but a lot of them dislike me for some reason - at my old job a Muslim guy was always trying to get me fired cause he was jealous my family had more money than his.0|00|0Is this still revelant?
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