Trans-what? How does THAT work?

Skadouchebag Yoda

"I have a penis, but I identify as a woman." --a trans-gender

"My skin is white, but I identify as black." --a trans-ethnic

"The scale says 350 lb, but I identify as thin." --a trans-weight

"The doctor diagnosed me with Autism, but I identify as normal." --a trans-psych

"The voices in my head say 'Only he can hear us, but we identify as real.'" --trans-hallucinations

"I look human, but I identify as a poached egg." --a trans-object

"I AM a good actor! Why should I care what you think?!" --Kristine Stewart

You can say whatever you want about yourself, but that doesn't make it true. There have been many oppressed groups throughout history, and we are all rightly taught that oppression is wrong. However, society has become so used to fighting oppression that it fails to realize that there are some situations in which that which is falsely perceived as oppression might have merit. For example, as a child I often felt oppressed by my parents, but now that I am 19 I see that they were the wiser party and had been in the right. We aspies all feel like we are perfectly normal, but that doesn't mean that we are. Someone with a penis might feel like they are a woman, but that doesn't mean that they are.

And before you rant at me the difference between sex and gender, I have a feeling that I actually know more than you do: https://www.girlsaskguys.com/other/a7834-the-actual-difference-between-sex-gender-in-detail

This is also worth noting: https:https://www.girlsaskguys.com/other/a9896-the-beliefs-of-today-s-society

I was told to make this by this person.^

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Stacyzee Editor
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I laughed at some of your above examples of trans (prefix) with a random word following behind.
I agree with Transgender.
However lately, I feel it is all getting out of hand with people choosing to identify with how they feel on the inside (I am making reference to transracial and other terms that express wanting to be different than how you were born ).
If it's okay for people to take on another identity , how many of us would be left with one that is solid? A line has to be drawn somewhere.
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- Skadouchebag
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  The thing with transgenders is that "feeling like a man trapped in a woman's body" is actually a genuine psychological disorder. I think it's called Gender dysphoria. Also, gender is culturally arbitrary. What is "cis" in one culture might be "trans" in another, so they're ultimately griping over nothing. you read my mytakes in the links, right?
- Stacyzee
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  Yes, it is psychological disorder. So are a few other diagnoses (not in your take obviously, I know you made some up to prove a point). But disorders like biid (that I listed in my take you responded to and so on). The thing with disorders is that they interfere with your life (which is why they are called one in the first place). With new disorders coming to rise , should society give in and let all of these people live the way they feel? I really don't agree with some of the disorders out there. ((I think the whole transracial thing is a fraud)). And yes, I agree with you. Trans are looked at a certain way in our culture but in certain places like Thailand they seem to be more accepting. I only looked at the last link that was listed. Y;?
- Skadouchebag
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  I strongly suggest you look at the first one, too. You'll need to in order to fully understand where I'm coming from, and also what I mean when I say that my gender is androgynous. (an additional point: if pronouns pertain to gender rather than sex, then what would you call me?)
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- Stacyzee
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  Ok ill take a look...
- Stacyzee
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  Okay. I read it. You identify with both male and female gender. I find nothing wrong with that at all. Like I said I agree with trans , so of course I agree with androgynous if I'm willing to accept that.
- Skadouchebag
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  But, like I said in the link, it is best for society if we simply cast aside entirely the idea that men and women are supposed to behave in certain ways, which is all that gender is. Take pre-operation Genner for example. Bruce had the sex of male, but he felt very feminine. He felt that his behavior and personality matched (the western idea of) female gender more than male. This does not mean that Bruce was actually a woman, merely that society is mistaken in saying that men can't have certain personality characteristics. The words "Manly," womanly," "masculine," and "feminine" ought to only have any meaning within the subject of anatomy and physiology. This is part of why I consider myself androgynous (but mostly because I genuinely do not neatly fit into either of my culture's ideas of male and female gender). Also, consider a situation. Say there is someone who's sex is male, and his personality embodies the absolute epitomie of his culture's male gender (like Freddie Mercury or
- Skadouchebag
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  or Hulk Hogan). However, he still feels like "a man trapped in a woman's body" and claims that his gender is female. I do not know if such people exist, but if they did, would that not prove that Gender dysphoria is a genuine disorder?
- Stacyzee
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  Okay, I get what you are getting at. I like the world the way it is. If you think abandoning gender roles would make people less judgmental (I assume that's one of your reasons for wanting that to happen), the reality of it is people have about a million of other things to judge other people on. it's okay to have gender roles. Society just needs to open their eyes and realize not everyone needs to fit that role.
- Skadouchebag
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  The reason we need to do away with gender roles is because androgyny provides a much broader and diverse range of experience.
- Stacyzee
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  Yeah , that's true. I think few people fit the gender roles exact to begin with.

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Anonymous
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We all know this is true. It makes no sense, someone who feels compelled that they literally are a woman inside, has mental problems. But society doesn't care cause they lump transgenders in with gays and queers, so they accept mental illness as normal, essentially.
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Ozanne Editor
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What about people who are dumber than a brick, but still think they're smart? They're everywhere.
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- Skadouchebag
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  lol. those too.
- Kylesar
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  Trans-Intellect
LightsOff Xper 6
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"Someone with a penis might feel like they are a woman, but that doesn't mean that they are"

How do you know?
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- Skadouchebag
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  because logic. Even KIDS realize that reality doesn't automatically reflect one's feelings or desires. For example, I FEEL perfectly healthy, but that doesn't change the fact that I weigh 350 lbs. Just because you WANT TO BE something you're not doesn't mean that you ARE that thing, whether it be a woman who wants to be a man, or a child who wants to be a dinosaur. The difference between fact and opinion is very real, and something that children are taught before they even leave kindergarten. [insert are you smarter than a fifth-grader reference.]
- LightsOff
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  But how do you know it's not a fact? How do you know that something didn't happen to them while they were inside the womb, that caused them to have the mind and identity of a woman, but the body of a male? Or vice versa? Can you honestly say that you know, for a fact, that there's NO way anything like that could happen during the complicated process of the creation of a life?
- LightsOff
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  I mean it's possible for children to be born with both a vagina and a penis. How is it then not possible to have the mentality of a woman, to feel like a woman, but you just don't have the right parts? Anything can happen.
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- Skadouchebag
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  How do I know? because, as I said in the first link in the take, all differences between the mentalities of men and women are purely cultural. It is pure nurture, zero nature. Read the take in the link.
- LightsOff
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  That's just an opinion, not a fact.
- Skadouchebag
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  No it's not! Didn't you read the link? I was taught all this in my PSYCHOLOGY CLASS. These are OBSERVED FACTS. the observations being made by ACTUAL SCIENTISTS.
- LightsOff
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  Dude, nobody knows exactly what happens when a child is developing in the womb. We know a lot of the physical aspects yes, but a lot less about the mental since it's hard to study. Saying that there's no possible way that SOMETHING happens during that crucial time in the womb, when a child's brain and body is developing, is just as stupid as saying you know for a FACT that God doesn't exist. Nobody can prove or disprove the existence of a god. So until scientists know EXACTLY WHY transgender people feel like they're trapped inside the wrong body, you have no right to say that it's just a feeling and not a real mix up that happened in the womb.
- Skadouchebag
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  Look. As I said in the link, which behavior and personailty patterns are assigned to which gender vary from culture to culture. what is "cis" in one culture might be "trans" in another, so transgendered people are really whining over nothing. if someone from our culture said "I have a dick, but I don't act or feel like a man at all! I must really be a woman!" Someone from another culture might say "Why would you say that? You act EXACTLY like a man should!"
- LightsOff
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  It's not about acting a certain way (gender roles) it's literally feeling like the body you were born with is wrong.
- Skadouchebag
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  That proves that this whole thing is a genuine psychological disorder. It's called gender dysphoria.
hellionthesage Yoda
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The transgender is actually is due to brain structural diffrences, like homesexuality. To claim that they are not real is to claim that male/female/gay/straight are not real. I get what your saying and for the most part agree, but sometimes something seemingly ridiculous is in fact true. www.newscientist.com/.../dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan
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- Skadouchebag
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  Then it is a neurological disorder, just like my asperger's.
- hellionthesage
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  Well that is one inerpretation yes. However is it really a disorder. Kim peek was someone who had a disorder, congenital brain deformities or some such. His IQ was supposedly 84. He also had near iedic memory, read books faster then a normal or even above normal person, he would spend a couple of hours a week doing the accounting for a company (he was also good at math). They layed him off wanting to switch to a computer system. The company used said computer system to replace him, and two full time accountants to do what a developmentally disabled man did in a couple of hours a week. So was he suffering from a disorder? Or, was the way his brain operated simply diffrent from the norm neither worse nor better simply exceling at one thing while failing at another? Is aspergers really a disorder? At what point on the autisim spectrem does it become a disorder? Isn't genius, an abnormality, a disorder? It causes people to look and view the world diffrently then the mainstream?
- Skadouchebag
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  While I know more than anyone that Asperger's does indeed have significant benefits, it still has major outweighing downsides, which is why it's considered a disorder.
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- hellionthesage
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  Like what? I ask because many downsides are really due to interpretations and how other people percieve it. Not to say there are no downsides obviously, but how much is due to the condition, and how much to others not knowing how the condition works. I don't know if you play video games, but if you do I would liken it to throwing all of your stats into one catagorie, it may make him suck at a lot of things, but for that one, he is god. I don't know if that makes sense or not but its the best analogey I have. Or perhaps, if you would like consider Stephen hawking. What if we were to find out that his condition, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis or lou gareghis disease, is actually responsible for his intellect whether directly or due to his body paralysis he put all of his energy into his mind. What would happen if we cured him, would it be a good thing or a bad, he would get his body back, but at the expense of his mind.
- hellionthesage
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  Not that I am saying we should not try to cure it but it is something to think about. Many people become who they are because of there conditions, they act as motivators to a certain way of thinking or acting that can, potentially, lead them to a much better way of living then if they were normal.(I use the term normal in its literal sense of a percentage based system rather then a negative as so many others seem to think of it). If these are mutations, is it justifiable to try and fix them? What seems like a defect now could very well be an advantage down the line. For instance people of African decent have a possiblity of getting sickle cell anemia which can cause blockage in the arteries and viens due to the malformation of the blood cells (along with the other symptoms of anemia) however, geting only one of the two genes results in a suddle change in blood cells that increase resistence to malaria. So should it be cured, or left alone, it could be useful, or detrimental?
- Skadouchebag
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  Do you watch the big bang theory? Sheldon Cooper is a classic case of Asperger's. Some common effects that he does not posses include a significant difficulty in wording one's thoughts, moderate difficulty getting a good night's rest, very irritable "trigger" sounds, and other things.
- hellionthesage
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  So whats the upside? Not trying to be nosey just curious.
- Skadouchebag
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  Well, we tend to have average to high-average I. Q. s, and another benefit that could also be veiwed as a drawback is the biggest characteristic of all. For some reason, an aspie will pick a given tpoic or subject and obsess over it. it's all they ever talk about. As a result, we will gather a vast amount of knowledge on that topic. The topic in question can be anything, but it's usually something like science or math or computers or such. Mine is science, but I have learned to try new things. I have gained many more interests over the years.
- Skadouchebag
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  Oh, I forgot to mention that Bill Gates is an aspie, and I think we can all guess what HIS topic of fixation is.
- hellionthesage
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  Science is good, I personally love science, despite having no aptitude with math, wich science is heavy with. And yeah I have heard of a guy with autisim who was completely incapable of reading or writing, despite that he could build anything, he even built a robotic dog that barked and could urinate out of a fan and some random junk. See there are benefits, all systems have a strength and weakness, I just think some have a much greater/sever gap between the two.
- FakeName123
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  The problem with this argumentation is the hen or egg argument. Is the transgender / homosexual that way because of different brain structures or did different brain stuctures develop due to certain experiences in life which make the person transgender / homosexual?
- hellionthesage
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  @FakeName123 brain structure does not change due to enviromental factors, only brain activity. Besides which they have found these structure diffrences in children before puberty so it would also seem to be that they are of a genetic origin.
- FakeName123
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  The structure of the brain is constantly changing from birth throughout the lifetime, meaning that normal aging, free from dementia, is associated with structural brain changes.
  
  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20879692
- hellionthesage
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  @FakeName123 Thats interesting, I was unaware of that. However I would note that that was due to aging not necessarily certain if it would pertain to this situation or not (it very well could) do you have any other links? Regardless that is also something to consider. Though I would still contend that mutation is not necesarily bad or good since all things are mutations, but rather the value would have to be considered based upon its impact on survival. That could mean that a mutation is detrimental in some situations but advantageous in others, enough to counter the negative consequence of the mutation. Though I would also point out there is a neurological condition where the person's self/internal identiy is that of a person missing limbs and they will actively try and make the outside match the inside through amputation. Whether or not transgender and that are related has, as far as I know, yet to be seen. But it is an interesting thought.
- FakeName123
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  You have to consider though that the way the brain-structures shape are influenced by the way you act and think and behave. The areas which you use more obviously will be growing stronger just like a muscle you keep training. So the question still remains if the brain structural differences come first or are part of the development in becoming transgender / homosexual. So far there is no scientific evidence into either direction, though the swedish identical twins-study where one of the twins is homosexual might be giving some insight that you arenot just "born gay".
- hellionthesage
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  Its an interesting topic. I was always under the impression that activity increased in parts of the brain but that the base structure stayed relatively the same. You know how they use to teach that the brain doesn't create new cells and such. Though it makes sense that it would.
JohnBhoy94 Xper 7
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Brilliant Take, absolutely brilliant... and I loved the joke about Kristen Stewart, I spat out my tea lol

I do however recommend you watch Christopher Greene of AMTV. He's a little fanatical and times, but does bring up very solid points.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=778zKBBjpk0
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- Skadouchebag
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  Doe he agree with me on the matter or disagree? I ask so I can emotionally prepare myself beforehand if he disagrees. Internet arguments are a big part of the total stress in my life.
- Skadouchebag
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  I just remembered this video, and I watched it. he *does* make some good points.
codyvham Xper 4
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Haha nice take man
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Pink2000 Master
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Haha captain obvious
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Strider90 Yoda
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I identify myself as Emperor Palpatine.
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ThatGuy98 Xper 7
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I love this, finally someone that speaks up!
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- Skadouchebag
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  It's something that NEEDS to be said!
- ThatGuy98
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  It indeed is, sadly nobody has the balls to say it in this politically correct society...
cuteguy22 Xper 7
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If you had been female in a previous life then you end in males body then i understand lol
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- Skadouchebag
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  But how do they know they weren't a male in the life before that one?
- cuteguy22
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  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_life_regression tis will explain
- Skadouchebag
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  I know about past life regression. I meant, how do they know they weren't a male again in the life before the female one.
hentaigod69 Xper 2
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they have gender dysphoria
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- Skadouchebag
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  I know what gender dysphoria is. It's a psychological disorder. But the thing is, when someone has a body image disorder, we modify their *mind* to change thier body image, not modify the body to fit their image. We don't perform surgery on anorexics to make them as skinny as they want, we give them psychiatric therapy to help them realize that they are not in fact fat. Chopping off perfectly healthy body parts is normally something that get's a surgeon's licence revoked.

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