Bad Attitude = Sex, But No Girlfriend. But Lots Of Sex!

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Bad attitude = sex, but no girlfriend. But lots of sex!

There was a test where they let a whole bunch of women, 20-30 years old, have a quick date with 3 different men. nr 1 acted really nice and sweet but looked a little nerdy, nr 2 was a little boring but athletic and well dressed, and nr 3 acted cocky, respectless and showed his main interest was sex. He even subtly hinted that he wanted a blowjob after the date. He was better than average looking.

The women afterwards answered questions anonymously. More than 70% wanted a second date with 2, only 20% with 1 and less than 10% 3. The most shocking result was to the question, would you have a one night stand with one of them? (sex after this first date, without wanting a second date). Almost half replied yes, and about 90% of those that did, wanted to do it with nr 3. The reason was that he was straight forward, confident and showed that he was the domintant one, even though he was kind of an asshole with little respect for women. Some even wrote down that they would just give him the blowjob he asked for couse they felt intrigued by his straight forwardness, so even that did seem to work.

Apparently women dig the dominant one, just for sex, no matter if he is a nice person or not. I think it's pretty logical considering survival of the fittest. What are your thoughts on this?

Bad Attitude = Sex, But No Girlfriend. But Lots Of Sex!
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  • Bandit74
    doesn't surprise me, but Id still be interested in seeing the link to the study if you have it..

    I do believe women tend to have sex right away with the guys who aren't relationship material and then test the relationship guy by having him work for it.

    So in that sense the nice guys does finish last. If you have the characteristics that are conventionally desirable for long-term relationships you will

    1) have less oportunities for sex since girls are less likely to want to sleep with you right away so your partner count will typically be lower than the direct classless guy and often times lower than the girls you date.

    2) When you do get sex you typically had to wait longer and make more of a financial and emotional investment beforehand while the direct guy barely had to do anything.

    3) You also finish last in the sense that she has probaly hooked up with the direct classless guys so you are the last guy to get to sleep with her... well at least until you break up or get divorced 😜

    Another aspect is that while girls may not initially have feelings for the direct guy, the often develop feelings for him after the fact and end up wanting a relationship. Just think of all the questions on gag where girls are asking how to get their fuckbuddy or the guy they just hooked up with to see her as a girlfriend. So in a sense he gets her body with 1/10 of the effort and still sometimes gets her heart.

    I also think girls tend to be more uninhibited and more likely to have "porn star style sex" with their casual partners.

    So I sometimes think as a guy its better to have girsl initially see you as hookup material and then want more later rather than her seeing you as boyfriend/husband material right out of the gate.
    Is this still revelant?
    • I don't think women test the nice guys. I just think that it's almost like preconceived notion from both parties. The females assume that the 1st and 2nd guy want to date given their personality. It doesn't mean they make the other guys work harder or what not necessarily. It just means if those 1st two want sex they should speak up about it like the 3rd guy did. Both parties are to "blame" here.

      Also, "porn star style sex". What the heck is that?

    • Anonymous

      Great comment. Kinda sad I guess but I'm afraid it' true. I'm a rather shy girl myself, but having split an appartement with great looking and outgoing girls, I can confirm that the "pornstar type sex" always happens on ONS and casual fucks. Been kept awake by tha more than enough. Even had to help one friend repair her bed. Never when their bfs stayed the night though...

    • Bandit74

      @Joc4Position

      I do think they test them I've seen girls on the site say that. They say "if I think the guy is relationship material I hold off on sex to make sure he's into me for the right reasons. If he's just a hot asshole Ill sleep with him right away". They also try to act like they jever hookup in front of the boyfriend guy. They will be like "oh no, im not that kind of girl" when they were that kind of girl for other guys.

      That being said, I agree that if a guy wants sex sooner he should make it know thats what he wants. I think more guys should try to start out as fwbs and then go from there. From my observations girls develop feelings for their fuckbuddies fairly often so in most cases the girl wither directly wants it to turn into more or she would at least be open to it if the guy brought it up. So in my opinion starting out as friends with benefits is the best strategy for guys.

      Porn star stlye sex, fast, rough, facials, etc..

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  • Anonymous
    Both woman and men want sex. Men will a lot of times lower the bar for casual and up the bar for dating and their bar is based mostly on visuals (at least that's how they make it sound and seem... not a man so you guys can clarify). Girls have lots of bars, which is something guys don't tend to take in to account. Girls up bar on the ONS visually but drop the bar on everything else (personality, dateability, stability, longevity of interest) and then raise the bar on everything for the long term guy but visuals for a woman aren't nearly as important as the other stuff. The other stuff makes you sexier to her over time... she's going to need to want to have sex with you more then a few times just for the experience, she's going to have to want you for the rest of her life (or at least think it's a possibility). She wants to be with you for the rest of her life, raise her kids with you. See you as the one that is worth it, the one she wants to live her life with the one she doesn't want to live without. The ONS guy is essentially a walking dick. Woman don't like to be looked at like a walking vagina, so when they tell you you are boyfriend material it is a compliment. If someone wants to sleep with you but wants nothing else that means you got one thing going for you and in my opinion that's not a compliment but I guess that depends on what your looking for and how you think of yourself *shrugs* -lol.
    Is this still revelant?

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  • SexyStudent
    The inherent problem with unscientific studies that do not have control groups and do not apply statistical analysis is that they always have some fatal flaw that led to an irrational conclusion. In this study the assumption that is not stressed is that the women have a, "quick date" with a guy. The implication is that the women are put in a position where they are looking for a one night stand.. Therefore the results are skewed and cannot be generalized. Given the results, the conclusion is valid but it is valid only for situations where one night stands are the initial premise.
    One cannot generalize the results or the conclusion and say, "apparently women dig the dominant ones..." The results have already been skewed by the situation. There are studies that do predict that the males who are most horny will get the most sex but that is because they seek out sex more often. Whatever journal published the above study it most certainly did not have peer review or else did not come to the conclusion that was presented here.
  • kap_nss
    These results match perfectly what I've seen women do. It's really common a girl would pick the player/straightforward guy for sex only. And then, when they want to settle down they'd go after a more stable guy who warranties sustainability for a family.
  • AleDeEurope
    And the source is where?

    I'm not surprised though, if you're hot and a jerk, you'll get the sex, that's no news. That's why guys should have some sort of mask when they just want sex. They gotta be an asshole and be direct, even if in real life they're not like that, but it's what will get them sex.
    • I agree. Good looks can be a curse though because he knows he's hott and so, that's why most times he can get away with being an asshole.

    • good looks can get a woman in bed but a bad personality won't keep her there.

    • Until he realizes that meaningless sex is boring.

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  • Chief16
    My thought on this is 'HOW THE HELL DID THIS GET PROMOTED AS A MYTAKE.'
    • takumii

      Mine too :|

    • Chief16

      @takumii this should've been a question in Sexual Behavior. There's nothing informative here. Women dig the dominant one? What? Why? Where's the insight? What are your sources? What led you to the conclusion. Damn it G@G. What in hell are you doing?

    • I've never seen you before and yet you're an editor.

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  • Spirit_Is_Free
    I am not surprised by the results of the experiment - I have no issue with the appetite of the women for no strings attached sex - The stat I checked was the answer to the second date possible relationship question which gave me renewed faith in human nature.
  • Azara
    did they say bc he was direct and dominant or are you adding that

    being straight forward is always more attractive bc you know whats going on. so thats not at all susprising. ;'nice;' people p;Ay games more often than people not worrying about how they come off.
  • hellionthesage
    It disturbs me for its utilitarian approach. Get what you want from the jerk, then exploit the other guy. To cold, to calculating, it objectifies him making him nothing but a tool for her to use and discard. Probably why women initiate divorce 80% of the time, its hard to be invested in some one you see as a utility object.
  • nalaa
    Are you surprised that out of those women, who want a one night stand, they choose the most attractive one?
    So what he's cocky, who cares? You're never gonna see him again. He wants only sex, so what, so do you? What is the shocking result here?

    You're making a logical error if you think women having sex with that guys has nothing to do with sex. You said he was very attractive and that's pretty much all got to bring to the table for one night stands

    It's not true that a bad attitude means lots of sex. What the study says is that, if you're very attractive, 90% of 50%, so thats 45% of all women would have a one night stand with you. But that's a low number compared to the 70% of all women who would want a date and possibly relationship with the second guy.
    Also how much of the 45% do you think is left if a guy is only average looking?
    • Anonymous

      Second guy is the most attractive one, the athletic one. I thought I wrote it clearly but apparently not. The third one was good looking but not special. Better looking than the 1st one.

    • nalaa

      you said he was better than average looking, which is good looking. You said nothing about how attractive the second guy was, just that he was athletic

  • heavensgift2girls
    It isn't surprising. Men and women are both hypocrites in their dating and sex life. It is the same thing as guys that want to have sex with a bunch of hot sluts, but want to marry the virgin from next door. The only difference is that women do a better job hiding that hypocrisy in our culture.
  • MrMuffinMan
    If that's true I am close to tapping into the female mind. As I am extremely straight forward and love sex. I am not dominant, respectless or overly confident though. So I guess there lies my problem?

    I am a kinda nerdy, nice and sweet and a little boring, I like to handle relationships pragmatically.
  • Transigence
    My takeaway from this is that most women are shallow cunts. And that men are shallow is a myth -- we're just adapting to the conditions we're subjected to.
    • That's an interesting perspective.

    • @Joc4Position It's certainly not new. The MGTOW and PUA communities operate under this model.

  • clampfan101
    I think women should appreciate nice guys more, and that both genders need to concentrate less on sex. I feel people who actually cares for the person are more likely to have a better relationship. And by a relationship, I mean love. (Which is NOT the same thing as sex!)
    • nalaa

      Her take literally said 70% of women would go on a second date with the athletic boring guy and less than 10% with the asshole.

  • abundantlyrich
    This doesn't prove its a test of the survival of the fittest... it just says women are most likely drawn to the aggressive dominant types for sex but it doesn't mean they are pursuing him for along term relationship
  • davidpossey
    its pretty fucking obvious lol its like asking dudes would you fuck a hot girl with a bad attitude 99% will say yes
  • Scrambledagain
    It's funny. Many Pick up artists were nice guy nerds that couldn't get women. They then studied how the bad boys do it. The result, a guy who may or may not have genuinely good intentions but will use bad boy tactics to pick up women.
  • 26ukdude
    I would still rather be the "nice guy". I will not change myself for anyone.
  • nymous1234
    bad attitude=sex but no girlfriend. everyone focuses on the sex part but not the part that says he doesn't get the second date or a relationship
    • singlebee

      Yes but these same girls fuck the guy with bad attitude and also date the nice guys when they are fine with the bad guy...
      That's what is more bad

    • nymous1234

      @singlebee doing it at the same time can definitely sting the other guy especially if she tells him that she wants to take her time before they get physical. But if she has a one night stand with the fool and goes on to date another type of guy I dont see what is wrong with that. Tastes and wants and desires change

    • singlebee

      Yes but that's slutty type of girls nobody wants

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  • thewanderingme
    the results were skewed. it doesn't make sense to have used 3 different levels of attractive-ness amongst the men.
  • TheGuyNextDoor01
    Who didn't know that girls don't go for nice guys? Lol. Nice guys have to settle for the girls that get used up by other guys. They're like dudes who buy heavily used rental cars.
  • SarahsSummer
    Your post makes no sense "Bad Attitude = Sex, But No Girlfriend. But Lots Of Sex"
  • Prof_Don
    Assertiveness ALWAYS turn women on (but of course there is a threshold that varies from woman to woman).
    • not always. many women prefer to be the dominant/in control partner.

    • Prof_Don

      @thewanderingme It's hard for me to believe that a woman will be sexually attracted to a guy that has and displays ZERO assertiveness 😜

    • there's no such thing as having ZERO assertiveness. just like there isn't COMPLETE assertiveness. you know what I mean. you've seen couples where the woman controls everything. those men are very passive.

  • Joc4Position
    Not surprised. If you want something let it be known. What she going to do other than say no? If you want to date her she still may say no.
  • CBryan
    Some women pick guys like new shoes. As long as it looks good, they'll put up with the pain and blisters.
  • lv4lv
    Sounds like they were looking for a hookup, and not a relationship.
  • JRICHARDS1996
    Not too surprising. However, there are two things that immediately come to mind.

    1) You mentioned that #3 was "above average" looking. Is it possible that what they were really attracted to was his looks opposed to his personality? A more accurate way of testing would have been to take three guys who are equally attractive but with different personalities.

    2) Before everyone starts hating on the women, just because the women said that they would prefer to have a one-night stand with #3 does not mean that they actually would. A lot of guys say that they would have sex with an attractive woman even though they know that she is bad news, though that doesn't necessarily mean that they actually would. A lot of people would listen to their higher reasoning, even if it conflicts with their more carnal appetites.
    • Jose_R

      "A lot of people would listen to their higher reasoning, even if it conflicts with their more carnal appetites."

      got to disagree with this part.

  • dudegrt09
    Being straight forward and honest with women is not bad attitude at all. Just don't be mean to them and convey a sexual interest and women do appreciate it.
  • TadCurious
    This just adds confirmation for what lots of guys have thought for ages.
  • FakeName123
    Not disagreeing (and neither agreeing) - but I definitely would like to have a source for that.
  • MimTcgraw
    I'm guy number 4... The real dude... And guess what... This Dude abides!!!
  • MixedGirlBL
    Shady study. Where is the source? I want citations!
  • GreatnessRevamped
    Straight forward is the way to go.
    Something to be learned from this.
  • iFarted
    But no girlfriend for me = lots of sex... with my hand...
  • Noxifer626
    I don't care about one night stands, so thanks for telling me how to act.
  • johnmsk
    well.. it is true i guess. what would you do?
  • pavlove
    very interesting thanks for this
  • skeptic007
    survival of the fittest lol don't be dumb
  • IceEverest
    I agree with this, have seen in real life
  • Smells-like-lavender
    Whatever...
  • Anonymous
    sad but true. For you women complaining about being taking advantage of... you got no one to blame but yourselves.
  • Anonymous
    Have you ever done this QA? What about your friends? It seems very surprising to me, but would be interesting if true.
  • Anonymous
    This means all 90% women in this experienced are stupid and worthless?

    This thing is same on tinder... All the fuckboys get to fuck all the girls... And then later when these girls are done fucking around they go and settle for the nice one

    And by the way none of the guys except for the third one would want a girl who has fucked the third guy and then still later in the end wants a second.. From the rest...

    Your can't have your cake and eat it too... at least I wouldn't want a girl who goes around and sleeps around having a one night stand and all... And then comes to me because I am the nice one...
    Thanks.. if I am nice then I would only date a nice girl... Not a slut like that

    This experiment also prove that women are very promiscuous
  • Anonymous
    Wow women are human too? who want sex? just like guys, who would fuck brainless blond hottie?
    Wooow you discovered something new, wow.
    Yes we like to fuck... and?
    • I prefer brunettes. Wow. How ignorant. Such hurt is felt by me

      :'(

  • Anonymous
    Alpha FUCKS/BETA bucks

    Women fuck the attractive guys on FIRST DATE. Get the beta for relationship.

    JUST LOL AT THESE STUPID 18 YR AND UNDER ON GAG who still think this isn't real.
  • Anonymous
    Link to the study, or at least something that references it?
  • Anonymous
    well duh... 10% fuckbooys fuck 90% of chicks and with the most frequency. welcome... to the real world.
  • Anonymous
    it proves to me that when women complain there are no decent guys, and bitch that all men are just assholes, that I am not a bad person for laughing at them.

    it also proves that the "nice guys" who complain that they can't get a girl and that girls are quick to debase themselves and jump on dirtbags who will fuck them and dump them, while being whiny, are not actually wrong, and that the only reason women get pissed at those claims are because people always get the most offended when they are called out on shit that is at least partially true.

    it also makes me feel bad for the women who have some self respect, who have their image pulled down by the other girls. Because just as the asshole guys are how men are judged as a whole, the sluts are how women are judged. that isn't fair to guys who aren't assholes, and isn't fair to women who aren't sluts.

    It, lastly, makes me feel bad for guy #2. Because he is the most likely to get a woman, have a serious relationship, and get married. And that woman who is devoted to and committed to him? there is a real risk she only picked him because she got sick of jumping for dick to dick of guys like #3 and finally wants to settle. The guy is getting severely used goods, and it is used goods that doesn't put out for him anymore, because it has a headache every night.
  • Anonymous
    It just goes to show there are a lot of stupid women out there.
  • Anonymous
    No its not that they like the confidence its that they have no self respect which is pathetic
  • Anonymous
    Women like a good fuck just as much as men do. We're just told that it's cheap to say we do.

    Also agree with Chief, how did this get promoted? It's barely two paragraphs long and says nothing, isn't this a question?
  • Anonymous
    This isn't actually news, its just something women refuse to acknowledge because somehow (unlike us clearly awesomely honest men) they can't admit that there are men who they prefer to hit-and-quit as opposed to having a relationship with and that hitting and quitting requires less than a boyfriend.

    Its sort of an accepted lie because if women all over started admitting it there'd be far less couples and far more one-night-stands.
    Tested it myself, being a confident ass does get you laid.
    Being confident gets you a second date with sex a possibility in the future.
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