When it comes to partner count many men naturally have an aversion to want to get with a woman with a high partner count which is natural. From a biological perspective this makes sense as a man cannot be certain that a child is his with a promiscious women and investing your resources into raising another man's child is basically genetic suicide. It has also been shown that women who slept with a lot of men are more unhappy in long term relationship, likely to divorce you if you marry them.
There isn't a man in this life who if he is truly being honest with himself would marry a slutty girl for the rest of his life. Most women instinctively know this and women know the only way for a man to take her as wife material is by having a low partner count. Whether it's by a lie or being acutal chaste doesn't matter. So most relationships today are built on lie.
If you still aren't convince look up the question "what don't you ever want to know about your girlfriend?" on askmen.com. A lot guys rode in talking about rode in to tell everyone that past partner count doesn't matter. In the midst of this nonsense, a girl wrote:
Sorry to break this to you, but women (and men) lie about numbers. If you seem the type to boot her if she's had more than what's 'acceptable', she'll lie. The common lie is 2-5, depending on the guy. Lower if he's more conservative, higher if he's maybe got a tattoo and seems laid-back. I know a few women who have lied and still landed a good guy, gotten married, had kids and are happy. The guy has no clue he married a 'whore
She got downvoted to oblivion. Most likely because her truth stung a lot of guys (about their own wives) and they didn't want to see it. Out of sight, out of mind...
The funny thing is, she intended for this statement to be progressive and sex positive. "Look at how meaningless partner count is! Why, all my friends lied to their Nice Guy husbands about their past sexcapades, and they're living perfectly good lives anyway!"
Now as a gender women tend to lie coldly and without remorse. They often are able to rationalize said lie with a reason that makes them morally superior. Such as a woman giving out their number but she knows that she will never respond to your calls or flakes on you. I've seen grils rationalize that they did it because they just didn't want to kill the good mood by putting a damper on things in the moment.
So it's not suprising they'll lie about sexual partner count. Something that men find important when looking for LTR.
Any man who has had at least 2-3 women in his life will vouch for this. And these lies are not conscious most of the time. They just say things as they feel at that moment, ignoring the truth. Another reason women will lie is because there are so many thirsty dudes today that they'll believe any BS that comes out of a girl's mouth and accept it. It's become so bad that most girls don't even try to make believable lies anymore.
"Bat your eyes, show some cleavage, a teehee and suddenly 2+2=5"
WHY TO EXPECT WOMEN TO HAVE HIGH PARTNER COUNT
1. Feminism and Sexual freedom without penalties
There's an old line about "men only being as loyal as their options." The same is actually true of women. The problem is that due to sexual courtship dynamics, women, unlike men, have a shit ton options. This was fine back when a fear of a damaged reputation and subsequently losing their chance at a good man kept them relatively in check. But with the trend toward masculinization that is currently occurring among modern women, they've started to become more and more like men in their views of sex. Which, combined with their substantial access to casual sex, has turned modern women into the equivalent of drunken frat boys.
Bridal showers have become hen parties.
Girls nights out have become secret one night stands away from the boyfriend or husband.
Doctor found dead in apartment (Doctor above had a girls night out where she was subsequently found dead with her panties in her purse and in the apartment building of drug dealer who supplies a well known HBO producer)
2. It makes sense
If you fast forward to 5:30 we discuss women's peak is between 20-25 and a man's peak is in his 30's. So of course she is going to have a lot of hot sexual experience thanyou. While men will get it in their 30's provided they have stayed in shape and move up in status/money. So it kind of goes to saying that women tend to trump on male happiness in sexual liberation because many women try to lock down the best men who I'm guessing would probably have sizable amount of sex before they can reach their full potential in the SMV. While males who got less and get snatch up by women in their late 20's, early 30's before they get to fully utilize their sexual peak.
So in a weird way both genders try to inhibit each other's sexual potential. Men utilize slut shaming while women try to lock you down into a committed relationship before you reach your full potential as a bachelor.
Why women lower their sexual partner count
Slut: "My sexual past is not important and it has nothing to do with what we have now. The past is the past. You won in the end, babe! You're the lucky one!"
Man: "So why lie about it? If it's no big deal just be honest about it. If we're gonna get married we should be honest with each other, right?"
1. To not make you feel sexually inadequent/inexperience next to her and scare you off.
Girls will typically tell you they've slept with about 1-5 guys in their life even into their 20's -30's because that's how much the average guy has slept with.
Perfect Examples from Real life:
My ex-girlfriend that I just broke up with told me 5 in the beginning of the relationship. Then after digging a little deeper we got on the topic of one night stands. She said she's had one but she doesn't add it to her number because she was drunk and even tried to make it seem like it was rape. I was like "you wanted it though right?" she said "yea". I told her thats not rape, you just don't want to seem like a whore. Not that I was judging her because of it, but women lie all of the time about this. I was mostly just disappointed because she tried to lie and even went so far to throw in the word rape. Thats just nonsense.
Another example. I was chilling with 2 girls some time back and she asked me how many people I've slept with. when I said 9 she said "Mine too" later that night her friend told me her actual count was 36.
So women in sexual free countries where sex is rampant will play the docile and meek "innocent girl", tell her fiancee that she's had only two or three boyfriends, and heaven's sake never a one-night-stand!
I'd wager that it's near to next impossible to find an educated college girl who hasn't spent her 20s in a bunch of relationships and flings. It's just so easy for women to find sex nowadays that they don't have any reason to hold back.
Funny, considering that women try so hard to hide it though. If so many women had such modest sexual histories, why would they care much about the past one way or the other? Think of it in terms of a job interview: If you have great work history you would love to talk about it; it's when you don't that you prefer other topics.
Women can't even hamster it away. insist 21 ways to Sunday it doesn't matter, but lie regardless.
2. When a guy that's the perfect BF/Husband comes along they want to be considered.
When they meet that guy who they want for a husband only to find out he isn't a manwhor or he does not consider women who have slept around as serious candidates. Many girls will feign the good girl act even though they are total sluts underneath in order to get a relationship from him.
How you can get her to Spill the beans on what she's done
1. Don't be judgmental prick and act open that your cool with her sexual partner count
You have to treat it like schroedinger's slut. You don't know, so she's both at the same time. Act like you are cool with her being a slut, tell her you think its empowering, tell her you're ex was a stripper, so you're cool with the crazy chicks. Then listen and observe - she will want your approval, she will think that she's finally found someone with whom she can be honest. She also wants info on you now - she assumes now that you must have quite the past to be OK with girls with a extensive past, and she wants to fish info out of you. This sets up a great back and forth where two exchange stories, and what she doesn't realize is you're analyzing her facial expressions and words.
That's the Sherlock. Similar concept to "getting her HoFax". If you get an innocent sweet girl, you put her through the Sherlock. You don't question it and think "well this one gives me a good vibe so I think she's honest." No, you put her through the same standardized evaluation so that your oneitis cannot cloud your objective vision.
2. Girls blabber about their past stories with men they've been with
Most women will talk about guys from their past fairly regularly, no idea why for something that 'doesn't matter' but they don't tend to keep it to themselves. You can usually have a pretty good idea by working out what stories are about different men. Of course its not always completely obvious, but you get the idea.
So like some stories she may talk about this guy i was talking to just stopped talking to me so i had showed up at his to get the stuff I left over there and found another girl's stuff there. It would be safe to assume then that if she left stuff there, she was spending the night and fucking him.
Another example, I had an Indian girlfriend once and she always told me that I was her 5th guy. But the thing was that over time she would tell me stories of guys that she broke up with or broke up with her. Those stories def added up to more than 5.
3. Look at her Life styles
Its usually fairly obvious by their personalities and lifestyles. There is no real way to know, but a girl who lives in the club in her 20s has had 30+ sexual partners easily. Someone who loves to read, studies, libraries, has lived and has lived with her parents for a long time probably has a lot less partners.
4. Girls can help too
You girls can help gusy out too. Remember the examplle above where the girl said she had 9 but it was really 36 and I only found out about it because of her friends. Well women can help out too by giving guys the heads up on what kind of person there friend is really like if she pretending to be someone else ot get a relationship from you.
5. Assholes usually mean she fucked him
I learned eveutally from girls that a code word for "I fucked that guy" which was them saying he was an asshole, jerk, or something negative like that. There was this one girl I was seeing that I couldn't even walk five blocks without running into a guy she had a beef with. There are only 26,000 people in that town, and she got around.
Now fun fact:
generally women use the "he's such a jerk" thing only on their significant other (boyfriend) to try and hide their attraction to other guys in their lives. Especially younger/college girls. The young ones tend to actually think the guy is a jerk in reality, and not consciously connect those feelings with their feelings of attraction for him. Older girls figure out the connection, and also tend to know that (some) guys have figured out this connection, and so don't use this card as much...if they're smart. They just get more discreet.