Awhile ago I promised I would never write about feminism here again, but I guess I broke my own word, lol. I have actually been motivated to write this Take on feminism because of an argument I recently had with a girl here, although it’s been something I’ve wanted to post for awhile but have put it off long enough.
Disclaimer: this Take isn’t about calling all white people or white women racists, but does show the racism of women claiming to care about women, but only the ones they want to care about.
For the “feminists” who will ask me to “prove my claims” I can do it very easily since I’ve actually written on this topic extensively in the past, and will include the sources. But because the issue of racism in feminism is very real and also extensively written about by other writers, I will try to highlight the main parts of it and not give my lengthy research on it.
Racism in the Women’s Suffrage Movement, 1870s…
I've studied the women’s movement and social-gender politics since I was 16, and it wasn’t until about a decade ago did I start learning about the racist past of the movement towards blacks and black women, and the more I learned the angrier it made me. I guess the black side of me took it more personally, it made me incredibly angry to learn the hypocrisy of feminism concerning blacks and black women altogether, and it's a part of history that feminists ignore and don't want to talk about it because they know it would make them look hypocritical.
One thing I was shocked to learn - and what you will not hear about in the media and probably not in your uni textbooks - is that the main women’s movement in the 1860’s did not want blacks to have the right to vote unless women could have it as well. Although our American history books love hailing Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton as the most important figures of early feminism with their National Woman Suffrage Association, they were the two major women not wanting blacks to get that vote unless women could. Lucy Stone, who’s American Woman Suffrage Association, which consisted of women and men, also felt that blacks and women should get the right to vote together but was willing to let blacks get it first as a political move to help the Republican party. Eventually Congress did pass the Fifteenth Amendment in favor of black men, though we all know that blacks never really were able to vote in peace until almost a hundred years later after the Civil Rights movement.
Either way, although the three women were abolitionists they still had their typical racist attitudes and were still somewhat upset about the fact that blacks got the vote before they did, and many other white women were outraged by it. They still thought blacks were ignorant and that their votes weren’t as important as women’s. Elizabeth Cady Stanton is quoted to have said in a newspaper, “American women of wealth, education, virtue and refinement, if you do not wish the lower orders of Chinese, Africans, Germans and Irish, with their low ideas of womanhood to make laws for you and your daughters ... demand that women too shall be represented in government,” and also making racial epithets to those groups as "Patrick and Sambo and Hans and Yung Tung." While Lucy Stone said at one of her suffrage meetings, "Shall women alone be omitted in the reconstruction? Shall [they] ... be ranked politically below the most ignorant and degraded men?" Negroes, is what she meant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage_in_the_United_States#Civil_War
Nancy F. Cott, author of The Grounding of Modern Feminism, even wrote, “Despite links between early woman’s rights and anti-slavery reformers, the suffrage movement since the late nineteenth century had caved in to the racism of the surrounding society, sacrificing democratic principle and the dignity of black people if it seemed advantageous to white women’s obtaining the vote.” - https://www.racismreview.com/blog/2014/02/18/trouble-with-white-feminism/
It doesn’t stop there.
If white women activists back then didn’t feel very good about black men getting the right to vote, you can imagine they didn’t feel great about black women getting it either. White suffragists even anticipated the women’s vote as a way to help cancel out the “Negro vote” because they thought there were more of them as white women than there were of black men and women.
African American Woman Suffrage Women's League
Black women in the 1880s and ‘90s did form their own suffrage groups, but the overall white female power structure of it rarely welcomed them, and even tried discouraging black women from mingling with them. Black women were also asked not to march with white women but be in their own colored units, particularly noted in the 1913 suffrage parade.
https://www.nwhm.org/online-exhibits/rightsforwomen/AfricanAmericanwomen.html
Segregated feminism in the 1960s and 70s…
For a group that has always whined about “patriarchy” and “systematic” this and that, feminism has acted no differently, especially in the 60s and 70s, one of America’s most socially and culturally heated eras. At this time feminism was pretty much all about just white women, while “Black feminists” and other ethnic women broke away to form their own women’s groups because they could recognize how white feminists did not care about women of color or their concerns.
Anthea Butler wrote in Rewire:
“Even with the advent of the fully-formed feminist movement in the post-civil-rights-movement 1970s, Black women and other women of color were relegated to the sidelines, while white women became the face of feminism. As Gloria Steinem’s good looks were heralded as the face of feminism, other women of color were partnering together to work for a common cause. The Combahee River Collective Statement from 1977 chronicled the genesis, interests, and issues Black feminists faced, and their statements still resonate today. The statement importantly noted that Black feminists were interested in combating a “range of oppressions.” It said, “We do not have racial, sexual, heterosexual, or class privilege to rely upon, nor do we have even the minimal access to resources and power that groups who possess anyone of these types of privilege have.”” - https://rewire.news/article/2013/07/28/women-of-color-and-feminism-a-history-lesson-and-way-forward/
This would later be the cause of women of color now developing the term ‘womanist’ to describe non-white women with feminist views and a desire to help all other women. Feminists can’t claim to not have racism with this kind of counter group. If it was really all that inclusive or cared about all kinds of women, then there wouldn’t be a need for black women, Latinas, Indians, or any other ethnic women to want to break away.
Suzanne Reisman
Suzanne Reisman, a white feminist blogger, even boldly confronted the issue when she herself stated,
"I'm a white feminist. I grew up comfortably in a middle class household in an upper middle class community. I have an enormous amount of privilege in my life, but I became a feminist when I was young because I wanted to change society. I wanted to live in a world in which people could just be themselves; a world where no one was forced into a role based on the body in which he or she resided. My idealistic view was that this was exactly what feminism was about - removing stereotypical barriers of all kinds. When this is not the case - when feminism is reinforcing biases against others - I believe that feminism as a movement fails." - www.blogher.com/racism-feminist-movement
A powerful piece of information I gathered a few years ago from the online paper The Thistle also noted, “Part of the overwhelming frustration black women felt within the Women's Movement was at white feminists' unwillingness to admit to their racism. This unwillingness comes from the sentiment that those who are oppressed can not oppress others. White women, who were (and still are) without question sexually oppressed by white men, believed that because of this oppression they were unable to assume the dominant role in the perpetuation of white racism; however, they have absorbed, supported and advocated racist ideology and have acted individually as racist oppressors..."- https://www.mit.edu/~thistle/v9/9.01/6blackf.html
Turn of the 2000s…
I remember back in the late 90s and early 2000s, feminists started shitting out books about how “our daughters” were increasingly being endangered by predatory young men and boys only seeking to steal their virginity, use, abuse, and corrupt them sexually; getting them pregnant and passing girls STDs from their “conquests” with other girls. It was now a major issue for them to make us all aware of how vulnerable “our daughters” were and how we as a society needed to start doing more to protect them. Curious….because black women were experiencing all this danger wayyyyyy back in the 80s, but white feminists didn’t care and didn’t want to write about how their lives mattered either. Only when increased rapes, STDs, and unwanted pregnancies began plaguing white girls did feminists want to have anything to say about it.
To this day it remains that black women, native American women, and Latinas are the demographic of women who are raped more than anyone else in the United States, but you don’t hear about it, while feminists - and insecure, privelaged, feministic young white females in universities - only want to scare, or bore, you with all their talk of campus rapes and “rape culture.” Not that rape on campus isn’t an issue, but they actually make up a small number of the crime in comparison to every day rapes of women by boyfriends, husbands, relatives, or strangers in any odd, random situation. Not to mention “rape culture” in America doesn’t even come close to what happens to women in India or other parts of Asia. It still stands that feminists heavily use sexual crimes against women to scare us into giving a damn about women and demonizing men, and that’s a really poor way to get our attention.
Racist feminism has endured even to this day, with white feminists marginalizing who they will consider victims and who they won’t. After Andrea Yates killed her kids in a bath tub back in 1997, NOW funded her defense in court, and they’ve also funded other criminal women’s defense, yet never have they done that for a woman of color who was either wrongly convicted of a crime or had the odds stacked against her in court in any other way. And if they did it had to be because the black woman had some wealth or status, but the average ethnic woman has never been represented by a feminist group in a criminal case.
Andrea Yates, 1997
White feminists are only on the prowl for what they see as threats to the modern day white woman’s privelage, status, career, or “strides” that she’s made. Anyone else might as well get sent to the landfill as far as Aryan feminism is concerned.
Imperialist feminism…
To this day I still think one of the dumbest things feminists could’ve ever done was trying to walk into Iraq during the Iraq War and actually instill justice and equality for Iraqi women, taking to the streets and holding protests as if it was the 70s all over again. Not a lot of people will remember that, but I do, because it was in the news for a short time.
And they paid the price. Insurgents lead by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi kidnapped some of those American women and beheaded them. When you are a foreigner in another man’s land, what makes you think you can actually stir up a revival or a movement in a culture you know little to nothing about? Without understanding their customs, mind frame, and social setup, you only set yourself up for failure and danger - and rightfully so to be honest.
This is what is known as “imperialist feminism,” which isn’t a lot different from white colonial men running around the world trying to impose their religion and ideals on native peoples. This too shows how white feminists think their idea of women’s rights or justice for women is the best and should be installed in governments and societies everywhere, yet really caring nothing about the women of other nations.
Some of you may have heard about groups like NOW and the Feminist Majority Foundation boasting about their numbers and reach around the world, yet make no change for women. I highly doubt white feminists are actually getting their hands dirty and teaching illiterate women of third world nations how to read and write. I doubt they’re helping over-worked women in sweat shops in Asia. And I’m pretty sure it’s been men in international agencies and police forces who conduct the stings and operations that have liberated female sex slaves or found kidnapped women forced to work in the industry, not white feminists who just like to publicize the sex trade.
Feminists don’t care about black, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, or any other kinds of women unless they happen to see there’s some benefit in it for them, and that’s just about never.
This is why I can’t take feminism seriously…
When a movement has really acted no differently than the people it says “oppressed and mistreated” them, I can't take it very seriously. Not to mention the biggest joke of feminism might be the fact that the majority of iconic feminists were women who lived privelaged lives and were educated, and generally the only time they were ready to become feminist was when something in particular stood in their way, so they wanted to start a revolution. Most of them were not the average woman who struggled or was oppressed by the system or even beaten by their husbands.
Feminists - and women in general - often like thinking their gender is less racist or more caring, and they're really not. They just reserve care for who they want, when they want, and how. Awhile ago an anonymous user here posted a question about why women vote liberal more than men. As you could expect, a lot of females took the opportunity to praise their gender for why they vote liberal because they're "more compassionate," "more sensitive," and "care about people." Anyone who believes that is a fool. Women don't vote liberal because they're doing the world a favor with their all-encompassing "compassion" and "sensitivity," they vote that way for their own benefit. They vote based on what group is going to care about them as women and their needs. A lot of these same "liberal" voting women still have prejudiced sentiments towards Muslims, blacks, and Hispanics and feel that affirmative action should be struck down and that Hispanics shouldn't be let into the country no less than Republicans do.
It humors me the way young women today like to think they're experts on feminism and understand what's happened to women more than anybody else. Almost every time I tell young white self-proclaimed feminists about the racism of their movement they either weren’t aware of it or made a ton of excuses for it, or used your typical comebacks of how men and “patriarchy” are to blame - their answer for just about everything. They get caught off guard by it and don’t know what to do with it.
Others try the argument: "But what does that have to do with women today? Why should the sins of women past be focused on?" Yet these same females are the ones still using what men did in the past to justify their arguments for today! It hurts for them to learn an ugly truth about their own gender and don't want it being talked about, but will do it vice versa.
Not only should it embarrass them that a black person knows their movement’s history better than they do, but a man does.
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