Male Projection: Why Guys Care So Much About The Number of Sexual Partners

As I’ve attempted to explain before, males have a very specific behavior. So when it comes to female behavior, that constantly proves itself to be in the opposite direction, baffles men and leaves them feeling either frustrated or disappointed.

One of the things I want to analyze a bit more specifically, is something that I’ve seen a lot here on GaG, which is men paying (what a female would think of) too much attention to the number of dates, casual sex partners, and relationships of a woman they might feel attracted to.

Male Projection: Why Guys Care So Much About The Number of Sexual Partners

Sex history is simply something we as men pay close attention to, and it should to an extent. At the same time, we need to understand why we shouldn’t compare ourselves to the number guys the girls we like have been with. Either that be sexually or in relationships.

So one thing needs to be clear, and I know I’m repeating myself over and over, but men need to know a woman’s nature conditions them to be very directional, and every decision they make comes out from achieving (consciously, or subconsciously) their biological imperative.

Male Projection: Why Guys Care So Much About The Number of Sexual Partners

Now, not every man a girl is with will drive her to her destination, and those men I’m talking about are the guys they have casual sex with. So why do girls have casual sex with, then?

OK, so I mentioned this in one of my previous takes, and one of the female commenter's felt attacked when I said the following: Girls need to be developed sexually, and emotionally. Yes, it sounds a bit harsh to say that, but it is accurate nevertheless.

Male Projection: Why Guys Care So Much About The Number of Sexual Partners

Not all girls engage in casual sex, but a large number of them do. Some women simply haven’t experienced great sex with a man, and many of these girls don’t even see men in a sexual light. Some even go to the extreme where they pick their partners, specifically for committed relationships, and never even consider either physical appearance or sexual prowess from their man.

These girls are fully capable of seeing/dating men who they don’t even find physically attractive, at most think of them as OK. These girls I’m talking about, of course, are sexually underdeveloped girls.

This is the girl that meets a man, and then gets to know him, and realize he will bring utility to her; Remember it doesn’t mean necessarily money, could also be something a bit deeper as emotional fulfillment to her, to something incredibly superficial like having a car and drive her on the weekends, to even something professional, he stimulates her professionally or is able to open her career doors, etc. And after she sizes him up, then and only then she has been developed to have sex with him, whether she is actually interested in having sex or not.

Male Projection: Why Guys Care So Much About The Number of Sexual Partners

Other girls, though, are very developed sexually. And these girls are the ones who engage in casual sex, because they are fully aware that a man can actually give them great sexual pleasure. These girls don’t go around living thinking sex is overrated and that good to great sexual pleasure can take them to either healthy relationships or simply one-night stand fun.

There might be a middle point to girls that are sexually developed, but are aware they might get clingy or develop either an emotional, or sexual addiction towards a guy fast, and she will guard herself for guys in relationships.

They may not see sex as pure pleasure, like other sexually developed women do, but they might look something more than that because they might be aware sexual enjoyment won’t get them very long, and they must protect themselves from not getting to their direction.

Male Projection: Why Guys Care So Much About The Number of Sexual Partners

These things are related to personality, and their willingness to open that side of themselves to men.

But as I mention before, men have a bigger part in being able to develop women, and give them great sex. Unfortunately, many men just hop like dogs on girls and do their thing without ever showing passionate lovemaking, or without having the ability to translate emotion and strength, and all these things that make sex as an intense experience, towards a woman.

In very, very crude terms, some men just thrust their dicks in and out from a pussy, and make the sexual experience as something empty, and they are simply masturbating inside of a hole.

OK, whatever; So why then, the number of guy’s girls have had sex with doesn’t matter to them?

Male Projection: Why Guys Care So Much About The Number of Sexual Partners

As I mentioned previously, guys usually get validation by getting female attention. Guys who brag about having sex with many women, or brag about all the girls that give them the time of the day, whether they think it’s because it may give them a good social impression (which to an extent, it does), it goes down to females validating their masculinity, from a biological point of view.

These men definitely have enough confidence and are physically attractive enough to attract females, so they are successful in validating themselves that way. Whether they ever show interest in long term relationships, or a desire to settle down in the future, that is their current way of feeling validated without attempting to receive love, or without going to the process of loving, offering protection and security to a woman.

Male Projection: Why Guys Care So Much About The Number of Sexual Partners

Not all men are able to be with many women. In fact, the majority of men, as we have seen, have a low or moderate number of women they have slept with, or be involved in relationships with. To these men, generally, the number of sexual partners her loved or potential loved one has had is more important.

Now, a lot of women tell these men they are “insecure”, and to their defense it’s partly truth. Personally, the number of failed relationships a woman has had is very important, and the reasons to why they didn’t work may tell a lot to any man what kind of woman he has on his side.

But the actual number of sex partners, though anyone can freely ask for that question, shouldn’t be as much of a concern to you, because from a woman’s point of view it simply doesn’t matter.

Male Projection: Why Guys Care So Much About The Number of Sexual Partners

Many men project some sort of porn fantasy into the women they are with, in which he wants to be her favorite fuck, doesn’t desire to be compared, or wants to be “her first one”. Other men, have a more romantic fantasy in their head, in which they want to be “her only one”, and the only guy she has invested an emotional situation with.

But to their surprise, and disappointment, women do not care about the quantity, they care about QUALITY. As I said, women are very directional creatures, and they DO NOT get in relationships because of giving love, and being romantic to their men, whether they can actually develop love or not once they are IN a relationship may be debatable, but that isn’t the reason why they get involved with men.

Male Projection: Why Guys Care So Much About The Number of Sexual Partners

“What is his name again?... John, Patrick, Bryan, Stewart… Doesn’t matter, what can he do FOR me?”

The things they consider about their men is the only thing that crosses a woman’s head when she gets into these relationships, and even to a lesser extent casual sex; Because after all, they’ll be getting the pleasure they were looking for at that time before deciding to settle down.

So the answer is that, precisely. What did/do that man gave/give her during that period or moment in time. That’s all what matters to a woman.

Male Projection: Why Guys Care So Much About The Number of Sexual Partners

To them it’s indifferent because whether she has been to a hundred guys, or merely three or two guys it means EXACTLY the same to her. It’s not about quantity, because their biological imperative drives them to look for SECURITY for her, and her potential offspring. The quantity of men who she has been with does not validate a woman.

Men are wired, biologically speaking, to spread around their seeds. Find as many females as they can possibly get to mate, so numbers mean a whole different thing for a guy. So men are focused on variety of women, not very differently than sitting at home, and stream many porn videos, complying many sexual fantasies with many different girls. But women, because of their systemic and directional nature, only see quality, and features that equal success in a man.

Male Projection: Why Guys Care So Much About The Number of Sexual Partners

So next time you meet a girl, please take this in deep consideration because for women "the past is the past", and that’s the exact line she’ll say, because they know quantity will reduce her sexual value in a man’s perception, and because she actually means it.

They don’t care how many men they’ve been with, but what did they offer them, and to what point did those men take them. All until the next step is finally clear, and the best possible option (the man) is available to them, and lead them to that other objective.

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  • Fundamentally wrong.

    Women who haven't been with many partners, on the whole -- with very very VERY rare exceptions -- want men who haven't been with many partners, either.
    These women will almost always judge men who've fucked around a lot, EVERY BIT as harshly as low-partner-count men will judge women who've fucked around a lot.

    Really, men and women are almost perfect mirrors in this regard.

    As for men and women who've had comparatively *more* casual sex -- NEITHER will judge the other much.
    Again... Mirror.

    This whole idea of a man who fucks hundreds of women, but then wants to settle down with a woman who's as close as possible to a prudish virgin, is a fictional trope that exists only on the internet.
    In the real world, that is just not a thing. It's not a thing AT ALL. (Unless the man's "high partner count" consists of prostitutes, who really don't count as partners for this kind of reckoning.)

    • "These women will almost always judge men who've fucked around a lot, EVERY BIT as harshly as low-partner-count men will judge women who've fucked around a lot." Right, because they know men who fuck around a lot have traits that signal them they will not commit to them and stay for the long haul. They are capable of getting female validation without commitment, and girls who aren't interested in flings and casual sex know this.

    • It goes deeper than that. If that was all it was, then -- contra what you wrote -- *women* would be much more concerned with sexual histories on average, because, on average, women (of all kinds -- not just sexually conservative women!) are MUCH more concerned with sizing up prospects for potential commitment. It really is an issue of greater compatibility, in terms of "sociosexuality" (= whether people can successfully dissociate sex from emotion). EVEN WHEN THEY'RE SHOPPING FOR COMMITMENT, high-sociosexuality people -- i. e. people who CAN fuck around without catching the feels -- STILL don't judge potential partners with similar histories. That goes in both directions. If it were strictly an issue of commitment-shopping, then, even those women with long and colorful histories would suddenly start valuing men who DIDN'T have those histories... ... Which we don't.

    • Exactly!!! 'Women who haven't been with many partners, on the whole -- with very very VERY rare exceptions -- want men who haven't been with many partners, either.'

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  • I thought, at first, this had to be a woman post. I don't know any men that care even a little about a woman's sexual history. I find that only women care. It has zero impact on your relationship (as long as no STD's obviously). There is absolutely no reason to ever talk about it. When I was married (and I was with her 25 yrs), she pulled it out of me, I had no desire to ever talk about it. We met when she was 17. The women I meet now are in their 40's. so it could he Hundreds for even someone that had little sex. So there is just no argument to be made to ever have a talk about sexual history. The only question needed is "do you have an STD?"

    • I agree that, even though I didn't include it ib my take, it's important to know if the person you're with is clean. Of course. But as to your first point there are men who care, unfortunately. And it comes out of insecurity and projection to their women. And women who take interest in this comes from her consideration of driving a man towards her direction. Just as girls dismiss men who have lots of casual sex for committed relationships, many women get insecure they won't be able to pull their men to their direction so they will ask about the number of women they've been with. It doesn't happen all the time, and not all women do it. Personally, it has rarely ever happen to me than women ask me about my number of sex partners. Maybe in your case she felt something wasn't working (in the middle of your marriage), or maybe was at the beginning stages she did so, which would also make sense.

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  • Guys should care more about pleasing their partner than just increasing their number. This starts with proper hygiene down there. All guys should use one of those penis health cremes they have on the market nowadays. They are made specifically to improve penis skin texture, hygiene, function and more. I've been using one for a few months now and it works great. Check them out.

  • wait... what? Because I've never been tempted into having casual sex, nor do I ever plan on engaging in it, that means that I'm 'sexually underdeveloped'?

    • You don't engage in casual sex because you have been taught certain values and because you have an specific perception of it. You are also IN a relationship, and you've been pretty open about how sexually satisfied you are with your boyfriend, within that relationship. It's hard enough to find someone who is able to offer you as a woman that much pleasure, so your current status is satisfaction in that area. Not trying to put you in a spotlight here, but correct me if I'm mistaken in regards to it.

    • no of course, I fully agree with you. I don't have a need to engage in casual sex because the guy I'm with already fully satisfies me emotionally as well as physically. Even if I were single, I wouldn't feel the desire to find a random guy to sleep with, though. Independent of how I was raised, that's simply never been an interest of mine. I'd rather wait till I find someone who I click with on a more than physical level.

    • In that sense, you've just described the middle term I pointed out in mytake. "There might be a middle point to girls that are sexually developed, but are aware they might get clingy or develop either an emotional, or sexual addiction towards a guy fast, and she will guard herself for guys in relationships. They may not see sex as pure pleasure, like other sexually developed women do, but they might look something more than that because they might be aware sexual enjoyment won’t get them very long, and they must protect themselves from not getting to their direction." In your case, sex only will not suffice unless there's an emotional part, or in your words "click" on other levels to drive a relationship forward.

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  • I think it's obvious... the problem is actually TELLING people you are dating how many guys you've had sex with and nether should he be telling you about his sexual experiences ether, i have seen questions like this a million times on GAG and every time all it does it casts a shadow of doubt over each of you and 99% of the time they end up breaking up as quickly as they got together because then one of them can't let it drop out of jealousy because then they suspect they are a cheater, it's bad news to tell each other, just don't... because they will judge what you did with other people before you met them wether you like it or not and honestly i would too, i hate when guys boast about any of their sexual encounters because it just makes me see them totally different from who they got me to see them as and i lose interest, what happened before has nothing to do with eather person and it should stay that way, if one of them wants to make it their buisness like it some how happened when you were together then they are insecure and a jerk.

    • I agree with your sentiments for the most part, all BUT one: "what happened before has nothing to do with eather person and it should stay that way" It's actually important for any guy to know about the reasons why a woman's past relationships failed and who ended those relationships. I've come to realize these things give a good idea to the person you're dealing with, the girl you are dating. But in terms of just counting sex partners for the sake of it, sure, it has nothing to do with the current relationship.

    • No... it's not lol you weren't there and weren't the one dating her, that's like trying to blame her for what happened with other guys, it's jsut got nothing to do with anyone, i believe in the old term "Never kiss and tell" because honestly not only are you bringing yourself down but the people you slept with and because humans can't keep their mouth shut and tend to just tell anyone about their sex lives well... you are not just humilating the people you had sex with invading their privacy but your gf/bfs too. Accept people for who they are NOW in the present not in the past but this is why so many relationships fail because people are so judgy of peoples past.

    • " that's like trying to blame her for what happened with other guys" lol I'm not blaming her of anything, the only thing I'm doing is asking a question, which I ALWAYS ask. I do not go into relationships, and even if it's just dating I want to know where she is coming from. I can't blame her in the first place, because for all I know she could be lying, but the reaction itself and her response will give me more perception. Granted, once I ask that question most women ask me the same question back, and I have zero problems, and even going into detail if asked, to answer her about my past relationships. You're mixing here sex count and reasons why past relationships failed, and they are not the same thing. I haven't sabotaged my past relationships in any way, and they are out in the open for me at least. The past isn't the past, because it brought you to where you are now, and it defines your current personality.

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  • Your titles are always intriguing but the content is always more or less the same. And all a little all over the place

    • The subjects I write about so far all have to do with relationships, and I fail to see them without taking in account male and female nature. There are books about this, in case you think these things I talk about are nonsense and repetitive, but it all comes from very basic principals. Human behaviour, that is.

  • Brevity.

  • I... enjoyed reading this. This was really insightful and interesting.

    Write more.

    • I take this as a big compliment, considering most girls diss these things I say, and considering you are an accomplished writer yourself. So thanks very much 😊

    • Not a problem my friend. Even if there are things I don't fully agree with it's clear you can articulate yourself and sell a point, and I still enjoyed reading it.

  • Just LOL at guys seeking female validation. Huge beta trait.

    • Ok. Female validation, however is your way of getting it, is an essential part of a man, among many other things of course. Unless you are gay, and don't seek any form of attention from women (which is validation), then that would be a whole different topic.

    • LOL he's just another person trying to get XPER point xD it's sad people even try to make money off this, it's really not the best sorce of income at all

  • You know what I find funny? You say you can't write, yet you've written several very well-written myTakes now, explaining rather clearly each subject that you've presented.

    Nicely done, sir. ;)

    • Someone doesn't agree it seems. But thank you! 😊

    • Apparently, but that's fine. I'm telling you the truth. :P You're welcome!

  • "OK, so I mentioned this in one of my previous takes, and one of the female commenter's felt attacked when I said the following: Girls need to be developed sexually, and emotionally. Yes, it sounds a bit harsh to say that, but it is accurate nevertheless."

    Lol was this me? I didn't feel attacked. I was impressed at how patronizing and off you were.

    This take, too, is incredibly patronizing. Women are human too, we don't do everything in pursuit of a biological imperative (really?), we do love... sigh. And I think guys are super hot and have thought so since long before the other stuff (career opening etc.) was a factor. I can't imagine being with someone I didn't want to sleep with.

    But go on, explain to me what being a woman is like since you are clearly so experienced with that. #sarcasm

    • I was going to answer to what you said but then I read I read the end, and I'm not a sucker for condescending bullshit.

    • Lol at least I gave you the courtesy of reading and responding to most of your condescending, uh, stuff (I include the other MyTake). I do think you should seriously consider that you're basically telling women how they think, what they think, etc. and that that might be offensive and unnecessary since there are plenty of us here to speak for ourselves.

    • The problem is that you read my takes as a form of attack, which it isn't intended as that by any means. The reason I write long takes is because these subjects are very expansive, and even so I often feel I leave things out that also need to be explained. What I'm talking about here are principles, and whether you'd like to admit that or not, both men and woman do many of the things they do based on their nature. I like to read female's opinions, for sure, but out of pure curiosity. The things people say aren't equivalent to facts, to biology. One thing is having a thought process, and other completely different is to know where it comes from. You should read, since you have apparent interest in these things, "The Manipulated Man" (written by a woman, btw), which touches many of the things I've mentioned here. You simply cannot separate biology from relationships.

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  • Can I just point out its never the really hot guys who sleep around. More average guys ( to me anyway) with game get girls. I kinda agree to an extent. The amount of women who do relationships aren't as high as people think. More women are down with the casual thing as serial date. So they are asking " what can I get out of this situation". But can I also point out women also care about how many women youve been with. If she knows youve been with the whole town all she want is sex with you so she can compare experiences with other women who have been with you.

    • Yep this so much.

    • You make a good point here, in terms of women comparing themselves to other women, and feeling insecure. But it all comes down to them not feeling able to make guys who do lots of casual sex commit to them, and they also know these guys aren't getting validation from relationships, but rather short term flings, so they see them as very volatile.

    • women aren't comparing themselves to other women when they compare their experience with you with the other girls experience. And women aren't as insecure as men think we are.

  • Such a common theme on GaG for guys to assume we're sizing them up by what we can get out of them. They forget we can buy our own cars to drive around. We can make our own money to spend. We can afford our own place to live. We can pay our own bills and provide for ourselves. When we're "sizing you up," we're thinking long term and what you can bring to the table in a relationship. No car? That means MY mileage and maintenance bills are going through the roof. No job? I'm paying for most of the expenses. No degree/skills training? No ambition to improve our lives over time. No sexual satisfaction? Bye.

    I don't hook up with guys with the sole thought in mind of advancing my career or making my wallet fatter. Like you said, I'm looking for "quality." I'm wondering if this guy is a creep or a loser. Does he have the skills to get me off. How long does he last. How big is his dick. Is he free of diseases. Will he wear the condom. A fast car doesn't mean his dick works and a dysfunctional dick isn't going to do me any favors.

    It doesn't matter how many sexual partners either of us have had, doesn't mean we're compatible or that we're what the other is looking for.

    • "Like you said, I'm looking for "quality." I'm wondering if this guy is a creep or a loser. Does he have the skills to get me off. How long does he last. How big is his dick. Is he free of diseases. Will he wear the condom. A fast car doesn't mean his dick works and a dysfunctional dick isn't going to do me any favors." That is still sizing someone up. Even if you specifically say you don't look for someone to push you in your career, or make your overall earnings bigger, you are still considering stability on him (emotional, mental), how much physical/sexual pleasure he can give to you (including the size of his dick). You said it yourself, favors. Whether these are purely sexual, monetary, emotional fulfillment, women go into relationships always expecting something, and hoping the guy will drive her into her direction. It's never initially about looking love, because it isn't (though it may or may not develop within the relationship).

    • All men really want is a girl they find attractive/hot, and he can get along with. Men don't size in any way their women. A guy's preferences usually go as far as in physical looks, and personality traits (she's nice, she's a party girl or not, she's smart, etc, etc). Because, and I'm in no way women hating, the aspects guys look for are either personality, or physical attractiveness oriented. Men simply want to have a good time, and all they look for goes according to that. Biologically speaking, men are not directional, unlike women.

    • Yes. I did say we DO size men up, but not the way it's being assumed in this take. I know you're not bashing or anything but there's an air of total dependency in the tone of your analysis but it's a bit off from reality. When women are ready to take the next step in their lives, we want a partner that's prepared to make that leap too. For example, if we ever decide to move in together, do each of us make enough to cover the expenses? If a baby happens (accidentally) are we stable enough with our jobs to make the necessary adjustments and prepare for it's arrival? Whose car are we trading in for a mini-van or an SUV for road trips? If I devote myself to him, will he care if I'm satisfied or not? Yes, we're sizing you up. We're evaluating what our lives are going to look like if we stay with you. We know guys don't think that far ahead. Not trying to be nasty or judgmental but it's a given. Not all are but most of the dating pool is crawling men who think like that, both good and bad.

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  • ... I have never seen a guy ask about past numbers IRL

    • And your points... I guess it just depends on who you meet IRL too. It's not girls' fault guys can't easily get sex though lol

    • Have you seen me blaming women some guys can't get sex? This is not meant as an attack, yet lots of your girls take it as such. It's expected, though.

    • You were justifying a little, why guys judge!

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  • How is having dozens of partners a good thing for either gender? I've sometimes thought women should care more about the number of partners a guy has had, not that guys should care less. Having an unreasonably high number could indicate mental illness, a history of abuse, low self-worth, or a casual, hedonistic approach to sex that wouldn't be very compatible with long-term monogamous relationship.

    For guys it takes a lot of effort and skill to sleep around. For girls, it actually takes more effort NOT to give in to sexual pressure from guys. If both take the path of least resistance, a guy ends up alone whereas a girl ends up having tons of partners. That may explain why virgin guys are seen as losers while virgin girls are pure and virtuous. Society respects effort.

    • I'm not saying it's either good or bad, I'm just explaining why guys are driven (not all guys, of course), to ask about numbers. Some girls may be insecure enough to pull these men towards their direction, so they consider asking about it, and also women who have values that tell them multiple sex partners is a bad trait. Again, I'm personally compmeteky neutral to it. What I'm telling you is that women, whether they have a high number themselves or not, do not care about their own numbers, but where did those guys give to them at that pwriod of time. Men often dwell about past relationships, and his past loves, but a women as long as she was the one ending the relationship is pretty much pressing restart, she'll then may find another guy that will drive her to her next step. Women are very cyclic, so they don't consider their own numbers.

  • When I start in a new relationship I try to avoid this question or her answer as much as I can. Why do I need to know? What good will come of it?

  • who cares how they view it. how i view it is all that matters to me. i dont pay full price for used goods. its that simple.

    • And that's fine. But the point here is to make awareness of how female nature works, not to change your personal view of these women.

  • Great take.

    Ones sex life or lack of is their own business. What does matter is if they have an std or if they cheat.

    Only thing I I find a turnoff is if a girl puts her sexual history put there like its something to brag about. I don't think it's ok when guys do it either.

    You should impress someone with who you are, not your sexual history. Heck, most of the time I've had sex with girls, they'd ask if I'm clean or have a condom. They never asked the last time I had sex, number of partners or if I was a virgin.

    • Thank you. "You should impress someone with who you are, not your sexual history. Heck, most of the time I've had sex with girls, they'd ask if I'm clean or have a condom. They never asked the last time I had sex, number of partners or if I was a virgin." Thank you. Yes, outside of sexual transmitted diseases, and outside of knowing or taking interest in why past relationships failed and such, there's little to no point in asking for numbers. And as you pointed out, to many women numbers are really a non issue.

    • I won't lie I've never had a serious relationship so I don't even like talking about that. Not a virgin but never had an official girlfriend. But yeah I totally agree. Even if you did have a lower number of partners than the woman, I've never heard a woman go, sorry I only date guys with a higher number of sex partners. I mean if they did say that then it'd be a giant red flag hahaha.

  • i honestly haven't ever wanted to have casual sex although there have been times when i've wanted sex badly and wasn't in a relationship. i just seeked out boys to date who were my type physically and expressed that i wanted to be in a committed relationship. it was up to them and some just didn't want to settle down or leave their girlfriend (which i found out about after we had met for the first time).

    • sought*

  • I just wrote reply but it was 15,000 words. I didn't know I had such a big mouth.

  • That's interesting, but are you sure this how it really goes with men and women. According to what male character trait?

    • What specific character trait are you referring to?

    • Different character traits work differently with different women.

    • Personality is different in every women, of course. Character traits are definitely different to every woman, same as the values they grew up with. it's not a matter of putting women in a box in terms of personality and character, BUT, their biological drive is exactly the same, even if it manifests in different exceptions from the men they are with. The finality is always to pick men that will give her fulfillment in different areas, and that will drive her to her desired direction. It all comes down to principle in the end.

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  • I just don't want a slut. Which by my definition, is a girl who's 18 to 24 that's had sex with more than 3 people.

    • Basically, I'm just exposing here why girls really don't care about numbers. And I'm advising men to pay close attention as to why her relationships have failed in the past. But sure, you're completely allowed to have your preferences. It's also common knowledge that a big history of sex partners reduces a girl's value for relationship material. So they tend to hide because of that, not because they actually care, you know.

    • I know they lie. Women want what other women want. Kinda like the fan girl mentality. Guys only want what they personally want.

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