Reasons Why I Hold Such Negative Views On Female Promiscuity: The Reboot

[CasaNorba]

If this Mytake sound so familiar it’s because this is basically a remake of an old Mytake I wrote not too long ago. I decided to rewrite it because I feel like the other one came off a little too vague and was missing a lot of details. So, before anything I would like to add that I did not write this to offend or judge anyone, all I’m doing is simply trying to address all the comments I get for being such as

- Why do you men slut shame so much?

- Why is it so common to hear you men say women who've slept around are used up and low quality?

- Why are there so many complaints about female promiscuity?

Anyways I’m not writing this now as a mgtow advocate, I’m simply writing this as a normal human being strive for morals and no I’m not trying to be liberal or conservative either.

1. Women always expect MORE than just sex.

Yes, this is the foundation on why I'm against female promiscuity. since before starting puberty I was always told that women enjoy sex as much as men do but as time goes by this has started to sound more like a myth to me. I mean if women really did engage into sex just for the sake of pleasure then WTF are they not only just extremely choosey with who they want to have sex with but why do they also put so much expectations on their sexual partners before and after the act of sex? Such as

- Expecting their sex partner to provide them with the status they are desperately fiending after. (like Kim Kardashian for example)

- Expecting their sex partner to take them out for free food/drinks/smoke, etc.

- Always expecting an emotional connection with whom they have the sex with

- Never wanting to move on and leave the man alone after the sex

Hell, I've even brought this up numerous of times in this site (and in many other along in real life) and you'll be surprised how many bullshit statements I've gotten upon bringing this up. Here are some of the statements I've gotten from the female members of this site that pretty much proof my point, don't know if they would make sense to you or not.

Anyway, bottom line is it doesn't seem like women really do enjoy sex as much as we men do if they are this choosey about it along with countless expectations. Us men in the other hand we do enjoy sex and it doesn't take rocket science or a master degree in biology to figure this one out. Yet when we want sex we

- Don't expect our sex partners to be pros in bed

- Don't expect anything from our sex partners other than the sex itself

- Don't expect our sex partners to look perfected with big tits and ass

- Rarely expect an emotional connection

- Rarely built attachments

- We are simply happy just if we got a vagina to thrust on. Women in other hand don't seem to be comforted with just a penis, they want the penis that is...

- Willing to provide for them

- Able to ejaculate free stuff that they can benefit off in the long run

- Willing to beat the shit out of all the other penises that will try to get in them

- Able to make other vaginas jealous

2. Women literally do become "used up" when they've been with numerous of sex partners

don't get me wrong I was never an advocate of slut shaming. I never like the idea that women are like cars, you know the more you've drive a car the higher the mileage is and the higher the mileage is the lower the quality of the car will be. As much as I hated this concept recent studies have concluded that

- once a woman has more than 6-8 sex partners throughout her lifetime her chances of keeping a

happy and sustainable marriage are only 20%

- the more sexual partners a woman has the less number of serotonins she able to produce

google this yourself if you don't believe me

these two things are enough to want to make any typical human being go against female promiscuity, of course I believe this also applies to men as well so if you're a woman you shouldn't feel so left out, but again is not that easy for the average man to have 6-8 sex partners in his life time. Obviously, I myself along with many folks who don't want to get marry or start a family right now shouldn't worry about this, but isn't this exactly what the vast majority of humanity wants? What hopes would all this bring to that vast majority?

also must not we forget that it was never we MGTOW who have decided that women who have slept around "are used up, or of lower quality"...you women already know it's true, which is why you make attempts at hiding your sexual pasts. You do it, because you want the big payday of a divorceable, rich man you can acquire, abuse, and bang Chads on the side. But you won't get that if all that's needed to lay you is a few hundred dollars and a few cosmos. So, they do what women have done best:

1) They lie, so they can do what they want. and 2) They shame, so that nobody calls them out on their BS.

3. Women stored DNA from every male sex partners they've been with (not fully confirmed yet)

http://www.neonnettle.com/features/1006-study-women-store-dna-from-every-male-they-have-sex-with

a lot of people got enraged at me from bringing this up in my original article even though I really did not agree with it, I just brought it up because it kinda made sense and I heard it from multiple sources. This theory practically claimed that women collect the DNA from all the sex partners they had in the past and then they past on all these DNAs to their offspring. This got to me since today so much women make poor choices and want to be with corrupted men who have no core values in life such as jerks, bad boys, etc. I concluded that what sane person out there wants to start a family with someone who is gonna past down nothing but corrupted genes to their own children?

4. promiscuous women are nothing but trouble!

A while back I once assumed that hypersexuality in a woman is a sign of insanity and as time when by this assumption has become a concrete fact. As I mentioned earlier women nowadays are never comforted with just sex, they always expect more than sex alone and if its not money they want its other countless things that will benefit them in the long run. It seems like all women who don’t mind being promiscuous are usually

· Single mothers looking for a sugar daddy

· looking for someone to commit adultery with

· Drama queens looking for ways to make a name for themselves, get even with their Ex boyfriends, etc.

· already taken and looking for that “other man”

· Those who just got out of a violent and toxic relationships

· looking for someone to fuck tonight in exchange for favors later

· those who feel self-entitled after just one night of sex

· looking for someone to fuck and then bug the shit out of later

· those who are desperately looking for ways to con men into paternal fraud, false rape charges, etc.

and the list goes on. if you still don’t believe me then here are some evidence I have gathered

This one was a comment I received on a reddit post after I actually said “hypersexuality is a sign of insanity in a woman.” Noticed how this person perfectly fit a sweeping generalization and admitted it, and the got mad at me for saying it.

5. promiscuous women are terrible at sex

I shouldn’t have to explain this one. Its been proven numerous of times and I even already experienced it myself a dozen times that party chicks and club rats are the worst women in bed yet unfortunately it seems that they are the only types of women who don’t mind being promiscuous; a lot of women have confessed this themselves as well. These women basically fuck like crippled zombies in bed, they usually make you do all the work during sex and would put so many dead boundaries on you such as restraining you from trying any of your favorite sexual act or positions on them because they feel used, degraded, etc. These are basically the type of women that make you feel thankful for the existence of porn, because again the sex they must offer is dull and monotonous.

I mean it is kinda tough finding promiscuous women out on decent places such as libraries, the mall, the park, etc. and you obviously can't tell these women you only want sex because the will automatically play the conservative card on you

- I don’t do that, that’s disgusting!

- I got too much respect for myself!

- I’m not a sex object!

- I’m not a whore/slut!

if you do find these women in those places then they are usually insane as I mentioned in #4 which means you’re most likely gonna regret having sex with them anyways, unless you are a mangina who would do anything for sex.

6. women don’t live up to their words

Not sure if its my neurological disorder getting the best out of me but women nowadays remain So confusing that they practically take my motivation to want to date or have sex with them period. It is safe for me to say that I understand dogs, cats and many other animals more than what I understand women. I remember I once opened a tinder account, this app is supposed to be a hookup app yet you’ll be surprised how many women write “I DON’T DO HOOKUPS!” as their headline, if that isn't something that scumbags do then I don’t know then I sure as hell don’t know what a scumbag is. Out in the real world isn’t much of a difference either, seems like most women who I have tried to approach lacked the knowledge to start a simple conversation. They would usually jump the gun and interrogate me by asking questions like

- What do you do for a living?

- How many girls are you fucking?

- What do you like in a woman?

- Can I friend request you on FB?

- Do you have any kids?

- Do you want any kids?

And a bunch of other bullshit like if I was proposing them for marriage or something. Is like how much expectations must a woman have? And to make matters worse, why can’t they just be honest and straightforward towards life?

To put simple it seems like women nowadays would do whatever it takes to avoid any sort of judgment or human rejection and I don’t think these things go well with promiscuity.

7. I hate feeling exploited

As I already mentioned early, it seems like the bottom line is that women only want sex from men they know they can benefit off in the long run. this is the reason why I’m against female promiscuity just as much as black people are against the KKK. Is like why the fuck do I need to provide for women by

· Taking them out on free dates

· Buy them free drinks

· Waste my gas on them

· Give them free shelter

When all I simply want from them is sex? Especially sex that is bound to be no good and come along with consequences in the long run? Are all women prostitutes now?

Conclusion

There you have it folks the reasons why I am totally against female promiscuity. Don't get me wrong I believe every human being has their right to express themselves sexually, both male and female just as long as they aren’t hurting anybody. But now when you use sex for selfish reasons like most promiscuous women have been doing since the rise of feminism then I think I do have a problem for the fact that just like any other human being out there you are not better than anybody, nobody deserves to be used or exploited in any way and if this is what you are really all about then at least do not be a hypocrite and be upfront about it. Of course I’m no god so I can't really judge but at least as a human I think I have my rights to view something from a negative point of view especially if that something is a threat to my life.

[COCOCHANEL]

actually i'm really excited to hear about the dna of every boy i've had sex with being stored in me. i chose each and every one of them carefully and they are all gorgeous

[CasaNorba]

haha Mr Universal!

[sovetskii13]

@COCOCHANEL Wait a minute, in another question you said that you've touched like 20-something d*cks but never had sex with them.

[COCOCHANEL]

@sovetskii13 please read it again
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2601843-why-do-people-mistakenly-think-that-east-asian-men-have-small-penises

[sovetskii13]

Ok, 200; not 20. And you only did a few of them.

[TripleAce]

Over 200 lol What in the bloody hell... how is that even possible... I guess if you didn't say it doesn't matter lol. but 200 is a mighty number

[COCOCHANEL]

@TripleAce it's possible, and what's wrong with making out with people?

[MrOracle]

I disagree with this more the second time around.

[CasaNorba]

a lot of blue pill folks will

[Truthatanycost]

For some, a palatable fantasy is easier to digest than the bitter truth... I'll take the bitter truth any day.

[MrOracle]

@Truthatanycost You and me both.

[CasaNorba]

@Truthatanycost same here, I just can't believe how many men actually would do anything for sex, anything till the point that they let the women that offers them sex exploit them beyond human boundaries, but again they don't care because in the end their attitude is "hey, at least I got sex!"

[Truthatanycost]

That is due to them falling into the trap of validating themselves, and their masculinity through how much ''success' they get from females. The man that validates himself internally, and though his own success and personal goals, does not see sex in the same way. Therefore he stands apart and beyond seeking sex for validation. Thus there is no need to allow the pursuit of it to undermine him... however, if most men in society thought this way, females wouldn't have any control, and men couldn't be controlled...

[MrOracle]

@Truthatanycost Bingo! @CasaNorba, the reason MGTOW makes no sense is because it's quite possible to have relationships with women without all of the things that MGTOW guys complain about - you simply have to be straightforward and honest with the women from the beginning, and stand strong to your ideals. Some women will reject that, but many others will respect you for it and will happily comply. While I certainly am not blind to MGTOW's complaints, the solution isn't moving to the opposite extreme and cutting women out of your life completely - rather, the solution is to TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR OWN DESTINY and get everything you want by working hard and by NOT apologizing for what you want. MGTOW is cutting of your nose to spite your face - it's like forfeiting a game rather than losing it because you aren't willing to practice the game or make an effort on game day. You still end up with a loss. Why not play to win?

[CasaNorba]

" you simply have to be straightforward and honest with the women from the beginning, and stand strong to your ideals. Some women will reject that, but many others will respect you for it and will happily comply." this sounds like something that would come from a PUA aka the last people I take advice from. either I tried this one myself in my blue pill days and it didn't work out. all I did was get shamed and ridiculed by being called a lame and whatever. "the solution is to TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR OWN DESTINY and get everything you want by working hard and by NOT apologizing for what you want." what exactly do you think we been doing? apparently is nearly impossible to do this with the presence of a woman around you. in a society where women are allow to bitch and complain when shit don't go their way and if you fail to do any of that then society will by dooming you with things like divorce, alimony, child support and a bunch of other bullshit

[CasaNorba]

"it's like forfeiting a game rather than losing it because you aren't willing to practice the game or make an effort on game day. You still end up with a loss. Why not play to win? " who say's I need to play that game? what exactly am I gonna get reward with in this game? will I actually feel a sense of accomplish by playing this bullshit game?

[MrOracle]

Way to miss the point...

[CasaNorba]

wonder what point that is...

[fabulouspancakes]

Sex between people who do not love each other is always going to be somewhat transactional. Both partners are looking to get something out of it. Either they're both looking for sexual pleasure, or one is looking for sex while the other is after something else. It really doesn't matter, both are using each other in a consensual, mutually beneficial way.
So while I agree somewhat that women often want something out of casual sex other than just sex, I don't see why this is so upsetting to you. You're using her just as much as she's using you, so how can you complain? You are making the choice to sleep with these women, nobody is forcing you.

[fabulouspancakes]

I'd like to especially point out the phrase "use sex for selfish reasons." What exactly are you using sex for other than selfish reasons? And also how can you, in one take, simultaneously complain about women being too hard AND too easy? Just... I'm sorry but none of this makes sense.

[CasaNorba]

this is why I fuck escorts instead. anyways I don't think I'm using her if we both came to an agreement before the sex. I can understand if I make up a false proposal to her saying that I like her and want to get serious with her just to bail out on her having the sex but this is clearly not what I do, I always set all my cards in the table. this pretty much sums up that women do love being lie to, they rather be with the man tricks them into sex over the man who is straightforward and isn't playing bullshitting them. this pretty much proves my point that women really don't enjoy sex as much as we men do. sex to them is nothing but a chore/collateral to whatever selfish bullshit they are after

[CasaNorba]

about the last paragraph, I'm not using sex for selfish reason. if I want to have sex with someone I just want to have sex and enjoy sex like a normal man would because in case you didn't knew we men desire sex more do to our high levels of testosterones. its always been said that the more sex a man has the more sane and healthy he will be hence why men have always seek prostitutes before it became illegal. so once again you proved my point that women don't have sex for the sex of enjoyment but rather for the sake to be use as collateral to get whatever it is that they are so desperately trying to seek in life. hopefully that should answer your question about the hard and easy part

[fabulouspancakes]

I think prostitution serves a perfectly valid function in society, so no problems with that. And by "using" I don't necessarily mean anything negative. I think it is okay to "use" someone for sex if they know exactly what is happening. So no objection to that either. My point is that women can set their own terms, too. Some women really don't enjoy sex as much as men, or they do but need more time to be interested in it, or don't want to be judged as "too easy." There's nothing wrong with that either. Wanting sex because you enjoy it is a selfish reason. Some women want money because they enjoy buying things. There is no difference. It's all morally neutral as long as no one is being hurt. So yeah I get your point, but I don't understand your outrage about it.

[CasaNorba]

yea that is why I wish it was legal, though I'm pretty sure the reason why uncle sam wants it illegal is because he knows that if he keeps it legal people will stop dating, getting in relationships, marrying, etc. which means no money for divorce courts, child support, alimony, and the list goes on. anyways just because they don't want to be judge as "too easy" does not justify the fact that they should leech off the man who is offering sex. lets not forget that being "too hard" doesn't help either because this means that they rather be "whores" instead which further my point in this whole mytake. "Wanting sex because you enjoy it is a selfish reason" no it does not. again God, nature or whoever created us made us this way for a reason. now exploiting and taking advantage of someone's biological urges now this makes you not just VERY SELFISH, but also conniving, controlling and manipulative.

[CasaNorba]

"Some women want money because they enjoy buying things" then get a fucking job and stop being a gold digger! " It's all morally neutral as long as no one is being hurt." again your actually hurting someone mentally, emotionally and economically by taking advantage of them. hopefully this will answer your question on why I am so outrage about it.

[fabulouspancakes]

Except if you willingly buy a woman drinks, dinner, give her shit, whatever, in the hope of sleeping with her, you're not being taken advantage of. It's the same as a woman complaining about being used for sex when she knew from the start that's what the guy wanted. Now if she was blackmailing you or stealing from you, obviously that's different. But given that you're a grownass man who can decide for himself how he wants to spend his paycheck, I don't see how anyone is being wronged.

[CasaNorba]

"Except if you willingly buy a woman drinks, dinner, give her shit, whatever, in the hope of sleeping with her, you're not being taken advantage of." yes it is sister, would you like it if a man expected all this from you? either you really are proving my point that all women are whore/gold diggers if they expect these things in exchange for their cunts. " Now if she was blackmailing you or stealing from you, obviously that's different. " oh you'll be surprise how many women blackmail with false rape charges, paternal fraud, false rumors after not getting what they wanted after having sex with a dude for just one night like if she's entitled to get rewarded for again sucking dicks and taking it up the ass like some sort of underground prostitute

[fabulouspancakes]

Would I like it? Not particularly, no. Would I be taken advantage of? Not if I was getting something I wanted as a result, no. I think women are gold diggers to the same extent men are only after "one thing." It's true for some and not for others, and if it's true for both people involved I don't see how anyone can complain. You seem to have this idea that only your sexual desires are valid, and women's material and relationship desires are evil. I've already stated why I disagree. As for the blackmail, false accusations, etc., I know it happens, which is why I mentioned it. Probably as much as men actually rape women, knock them up and leave, etc. Some people are truly evil. But such behavior is not the norm for either gender.

[CasaNorba]

you know what I'm through trying to explain it to you! I feel like I'm talking to a wall right now. either you just proved my point that all women are whores, gold diggers and prostitutes by default

[fabulouspancakes]

I feel the same way so I guess that's that. I didn't prove your point you just keep repeating your opinion over and over again, which doesn't make you correct.

[CasaNorba]

" you just keep repeating your opinion over and over again, which doesn't make you correct. " look who's talking, miss I confess that all women are whores, prostitutes and gold diggers because I approved them on them exchanging their cunts for money and materialistic stuff again thank you for approving my point, though I knew I didn't write this mytake for nothing

[fabulouspancakes]

Yeah you definitely missed my point. I never said ALL women are whores. YOU came up with that. Some women are in fact whores, and some behave like whores, but most are not. In fact, usually the reason women want you to pay for shit when you're having sex with them or even in a relationship is to feel valued and like you really want them. Not that they even really care about the money. It's kind of twisted, yes, but that's why. Like I said, yes, some women are whores who just want money. But to claim all women are is just plain crazy. I can tell that's what you want to believe though and nobody's going to change your mind.

[CasaNorba]

https://i.imgur.com/8q9L2iu.png

[fabulouspancakes]

That's cute, but the thing is, women don't always desire sex just for the sake of sex, or at least don't feel justified in desiring it. Often, certain circumstances have to be in place for a woman to enjoy sex at all. This is partly due to biology and partly due to socialization. I'm sure it sounds weird to a guy but that's just how it is. If society would stop shaming women for wanting sex just for the sake of sex, I think you would find a lot more women willing to have it without being wined and dined first. But as it currently is, many women feel used if they have sex with a guy who isn't their boyfriend/husband and get nothing in exchange, because that's how society makes them feel.

[CasaNorba]

yea yea YEAH, its always someone/something else's fault! "because society this!" "because society that!" "if women wouldn't get shame for this!" "if women wouldn't get shame for that!" seriously I find it so amusing how all you women say "not all women are like that!" yet all of you think/sound the same. all of you have this so called intense "fear towards judgment" like if society is the grim reaper or something. like seriously when are you all going to realize that life is a bitch after all and nobody is here to please anybody and this so called society isn't perfect and will judge you whether you do what is right or wrong! like snap out of it already, be different and learn how to think for yourself for ones! oh yea that's I think all this just confirms yet another theory we've had for quite a while now and that is... "all women are followers"

[CasaNorba]

either way sex is a mutual thing so if 2 or more people had sex they all got to experience pleasure and enjoyment. so with that said if I guy took you out on a free date and you rewarded him with just sex then you now own him two favors since he took you out to eat for free and was willing to get his freak on with you later on

[CasaNorba]

owe*

[fabulouspancakes]

Actually, most people have an intense fear of judgment, male or female. Just look at how distraught many men get when they're viewed as weak/unmanly. I'm not saying people can't or shouldn't look past what society thinks and be their own person, but the influence is going to be there no matter what. It's funny how you jump on absolutely everything I say to create some ridiculous blanket statement about "all women." Makes this conversation pointless since you will use confirmation bias to keep reinforcing your preconceived beliefs no matter what. So I guess keep having fun believing tons of negative stereotypes about women if that's what floats your boat.

[selmo93]

This really bugs me. As a lot of this is basically saying, woman shouldn't sleep around as they automatically want stuff off men. Yet men want sex for free, women give them that and they're called sluts. So you can't win.
I mean I'm open to the fact I've slept with 15 guys. My boyfriend knows, my housemates knows, friends know etc. I'm open about it, and I know I used to do it as I wanted to feel good. Never asked for dates etc as there was no point and left either afterwards or in the morning. Why should it matter unless it becomes a problem actually in my relationship?

For the marriage quote, not everyone wants to get married. I dont. Nor do most people I know. It's a waste of money. And the cheating, in my last 3 relationships its been the guy whose cheated. So it does work both ways.

That DNA stuff hasn't been proven.

[CasaNorba]

first off I didn't make any of this up, this exactly what I been observing since the day I found out what sexual attraction was. yea they terrified of being called SLUTS yet they don't mind being WHORES while riding the same boat. also if all women weren't whores and say they did enjoy sex as much as we men do then don't you think prostitution and pornography wouldn't exist? and the fact that women can get sex 10X easier then us yet they still behave very choosy about it pretty much sound a little too ironic yeap I'm pretty sure those 15 guys had a lot to offer you and your current boyfriend has offered you more if you chose him out of the 15 in total. its obviously not a problem anymore since you're no longer with those dudes. I never said I support marriage. if hooking up with a chicks makes me feel exploited then imaging how I would feel being married. and yes I did say it wasn't proven yet, did I not?

[selmo93]

Your basically lumping all women into the same boat which is rubbing people up the wrong way. Some women dont enjoy sex. Neither do some men. So I don't see how that's much to do with it. And as I said, you wonder why they're choosy when guys slut shame them to begin with. Hahaha you really think a guy with no job, didn't drive and average penis size offered me more than 15 other guys? No it's not. But as I said, people change. I don't blame you, I'm just going off the fact that statistic says marriage. I'm not saying you didn't, I'm just baffled why you put things up there that aren't even facts.

[CasaNorba]

yeah whatever but again we men basically get slut shamed to, when we sleep around we get called "players, pigs, misogynist," etc. and when we don't sleep around we get shame as well; we get called "gay, lame, asexual," and the list goes on yet we never worry that do we? seriously understand what world of terror and fear do you women live in nowadays. "oh I'm not doing this or that because I don't want to be labeled a slut!" maybe not but I'm pretty sure he has status or something you can benefit off in the long run. either that or probably it just took you 15 guys to finally feel a sense of humbleness and settlement. anyways do you believe all the bullshit statistics you see online? I sure don't that is why everything I wrote is based on my personal experience except the DNA part where I actually admit it its still invalid.

[CasaNorba]

I seriously don't understand*

[selmo93]

'yeah whatever' see that's why people don't listen as you just dismiss what they're talking to you about. Clearly you do worry about that. It's a lot worse for woman then men as misogynist? Really... That's hardly an insult going to put off many women. As I said to you earlier. Wtf would anyone care about being a slut? If anything you guys want the sluts for easy access but then say you don't want them as girlfriend's for that reason. That's the problem women have. That's my point. Benefit me in the long run? You make it sound like it's a transaction. Not actual relationships. Believe it or not but casual sex does kind of get boring. Might I ask if you have a girlfriend? No I don't believe it, but when your explaining reasons why you believe it I don't understand why you put in arguments you don't believe yourself which defeats the point of it.

[CasaNorba]

never once did I said I dismissed anything, not that it should bother you. ". Wtf would anyone care about being a slut? If anything you guys want the sluts for easy access but then say you don't want them as girlfriend's for that reason. That's the problem women have." since when are guys entitled to commit to women just because they had sex with them with one night? and how exactly is trying to build attachment going to change anything? I think this would make matters worst for the two of you. whatever happen to just walking away? either way if you can't walk away from a guy after just one night of sex then this obviously confirms that you were looking for more than just sex. and yes this is a transaction if you expected more than just sex and there is a difference between promiscuity and actual relationship and you just proved my point at the fact that women can't tell the difference between the 2.

[CasaNorba]

yea to you it might get boring but that doesn't mean the guy you had casual sex has to join you in your boredom and again this definitely does not justify your acts in trying to make it into a relationship and this is why I don't even bother with casual sex anymore hence my great inspiration in writing this mytake. and no I don't have a girlfriend, I don't date women because of what I already tried to explain. if women are this choosy with just casual sex imaging how they are in an actual relationship. I been there and done and I think women nowadays aren't just worth the effort anymore.

[selmo93]

That's how it's coming across. I never said it was my problem? If anything if a guy just wants sex, fine. Just means look somewhere else if that's not what you want. But I mean for the woman who do want relationships, they're being either judged by the guy for having too many sexual partners which is when guys generally just want sex anyway so kinda hypocritical to turn down girls for doing something they want them to do. What has this got to do with telling the difference? I'm not on about my expectations from a ons. Fucking hell could go into detail to explain how no strings sex works but then it would make me look like a slut to more than just you on this. So no thank you. Also you didn't even answer about the fact your pushing things in your article even you don't believe in.

[selmo93]

And yeh I wouldn't expect them to? Why would I want a relationship with meaningless guys I shag in cars/ see for one night anyway? I have never once said I tried to get them into a relationship? If anything I left them alone and didn't contact them for sex again as I'd go about finding someone who wants the same thing. It's not hard to grasp. And we'll glad to hear it :)

[CasaNorba]

yea all these problems can easily be avoided if you knew the difference between casual sex and real relationships along with learning how to respect other people's space. and no I won't think you are a slut, either way why are you so damn worry about me thinking you're a slut? is not like we are dating, hell we don't even know each other personally and the probability of doing so are extremely minimal. but again it sounds like you can't tell the difference between that and a real relationship apart so I wouldn't listen either way. "Also you didn't even answer about the fact your pushing things in your article even you don't believe in." exactly where the hell did this come from?

[CasaNorba]

"Why would I want a relationship with meaningless guys I shag in cars/ see for one night anyway? " easy because maybe you want status, maybe you want something to brag about to your girlfriends? " If anything I left them alone and didn't contact them for sex again as I'd go about finding someone who wants the same thing. It's not hard to grasp." sounds like you been doing the total opposite of this

[selmo93]

Respecting people's space? Wheres that come into it? As for the slut thing, personally I don't. But don't particularly want to go into detail of stuff I regret over the internet. How is having sex with random guys in cars status? If anything it's cheap. And makes you feel disgusting afterwards. As for sounding like the total opposite, how's that? As I've never said I contact them afterwards, nor do I want to considering I don't exactly make it my highlight of my day doing it to begin with as you feel horrible afterwards. Same as if I stuffed my face with cake. Good idea at the time, bad idea afterwards.

[CasaNorba]

yea if you had casual sex with someone and then try to force yourself in their life by trying to form attachments then you obviously don't respect people's space. reasons why you don't want to go into details is because your obviously wrong for the fact you can't tell the difference between casual sex and an actual relationship. yea you claimed you never contacted afterwards but you did confessed that you try starting a relationship with them. till you just once again proved my point that women can't tell the difference between relationships and casual sex, hence why they always become attached after sex over 90% of the time

[selmo93]

Please show me where I said I contacted them afterwards? And this conversation is starting to have nothing to do with the fact your stereotyping all women and just turning into a bitter rant at myself as I can't agree with what your saying since it's basically like me saying all men think with their penis'.

[CasaNorba]

you did admit that you have tried to form relationships with those individuals you had sex with. anyways the more you talk the more you are proving my point in this stereotype. I obviously made the assumption that all women feel self-entitled after just one night of sex along with the fact that they can't tell difference between casual sex and serious relationship and you once again confirm this by stating that... "You make it sound like it's a transaction. Not actual relationships. Believe it or not but casual sex does kind of get boring."

[selmo93]

Your completely taking that part out of context. Especially considering that was in reference to why I'm with my boyfriend. It's got nothing to do with guys who hook up. And as I've repeatedly said, hooking up with random guys makes you feel shit afterwards so why would anyone go out of their way to try make a relationship with them? But clearly your not going to stop stereotyping women. And I'm not going to stop thinking that your reasons are deluded.

[CasaNorba]

they make you feel like shit yet you still fucked 15 of them, isn't this a little ironic? either way I'm pretty sure they made you feel like shit because they all find out about your dishonesty towards them. number 14, 13, 12 etc (assuming that number 15 is our current bf) probably found out that you fucked 1-11 before them and the fact that you don't find a point and hooking up and are so damn terrified of being called a SLUT pretty much screams out that you expected more than sex from them. and that's, you finally found out that non of us are gonna change any of our views

[CasaNorba]

anyways I bet your gonna block me anytime soon like most cowards in this site have been doing when they have no argument and are thirsty to get the last word. lol if you do block me I wouldn't be surprised because that would make you the 4th person that does this to me in this week alone

[selmo93]

Not really considering it seems a good idea at the time Also to be frank. It never actually came up for a start. But I love how you feel you know me to jump into conclusions just to make you feel like you make sense. As I said, your deluded, you can't help yourself so why would I block you... You need help more than anything. But thank you for staying away from women :) saves a lot of hassle.

[selmo93]

Also you say about knowing the difference in casual sex, why would anyones sexual history come up in that situation anyway? As if you sit down and talk about it. Or a Hure you confused about that as much as your determined to say everyone else doesn't?

[CasaNorba]

don't really need to know you personally, must not forget that I'm not interested in doing so anyways. but the way you express yourself and contradict yourself every chance you get like if you feel guilty about your pass and would anytime to hide something pretty much gives you away. and yea "you need help," this is what people who hate hearing the truth always tell me. and glad to be at your service but unfortunately women won't leave me alone and its kinda unfortunate when you got friends and family pressuring you to get a girlfriend like that is what life is all about.

[CasaNorba]

about knowing the difference well if its just casual sex then your pass sex history wouldn't matter. but in your case if you have casual sex tonight then try to form a relationship out of it then your sex pass will obviously make you a sitting duck.

[CasaNorba]

because in that case you're not just bringing dishonesty to table, you are also bringing a f'd up pass

[selmo93]

I never said you did? Just acting like it. People who hate hearing the truth? As if it's you who decides what you feel is truth. As if you know every girl in the world. As for women leaving you alone, that's fine, let them see your attitude towards them and they'll run away. As I said, never came up as it was just casual sex which I really don't get why you don't understand that. Or why your talking as if a relationship came from them as I wouldn't have a guy into that in a relationship to begin with.

[CasaNorba]

again I never said it was true/false because I really don't care. all I said was that this is what I get your attitude and vocabulary. about knowing every girl in the world I think I would of wish this when I was a kid but now as an adult I say this is the last thing I want. either way you don't need to know every single girl out there, it can be a coincidence that a lot of men have said the same things I have and for crying out loud its written all over our culture. again you don't need to know every single girl despite the fact that I never said all women in the world are this way, I said the majority which is enough to treat all women like snakes. sometimes my attitude alone is not enough. sometimes they'll run away and then start to gossip from left to right.

[CasaNorba]

"As I said, never came up as it was just casual sex which I really don't get why you don't understand that. Or why your talking as if a relationship came from them as I wouldn't have a guy into that in a relationship to begin with. " there you go contradicting yourself once again!

[selmo93]

And as I said, acting from the way your talking. You have basically said all as that's the whole point of the mytake in the first place. So just because they gossip must mean they want you? I don't think that's how it works. As for contradicting myself. Htf is that contradicting? Your picking and choosing things to take out of context now considering it still stands I never said anywhere in this conversation I wanted a relationship with them guys. The quote you said before was about my boyfriend but you just pick and choose what you want things to be about just to suit yourself

[selmo93]

And since you seem to be assuming what you want I shall spell things out for you From 18-21 I would go out 2 nights a week, get hammered. And as drink makes me want to have sex, bring a guy back to mine at least once a week or fortnight for sex. They'd leave either after or in the morning. at least 3 of the guys I don't have a clue what their names are. In the morning I would feel shitty about why I did it and hungover. To then go back to the same cycle the next weekend. Until I decided I'm bored of drinking and drunken hook ups, I'd then online date, find someone who wants a relationship aswell. Then go back to the drinking and bringing guys back when the relationship ended. Only stopped doing that when an ex boyfriend sexually assaulted me. So before you jump to conclusions no I didn't ask them for relationships. No I didn't speak to them other than sex as generally too drunk to care about that or they left.

[CasaNorba]

never said that smarty pants, but again I don't see what part of "I don't want them for anything more than sex" are you having such a tough time comprehending. what I was trying to get at is that once you freak them away they will gossip about you and try to ruin your reputation in society.

https://imgur.com/Xz5fQkg

that is what you said earlier and obviously you're not gonna worry about the guy you hook up calling you a slut and rejecting you for a relationship unless you really are trying to once play mind games and force them to get in a relationship with you. so with that said I think your the one doing the real...

" pick and choose what you want things to be about just to suit yourself "

[CasaNorba]

again you felt like shit but you still got drunk and decided to repeat that pattern anyways. lmao seriously you gotta be the goddess of all the hypocrisy and contradiction out there. I'm also surprised you didn't try to file a false rape charge on any of them since that's what most women do nowadays after one night of drunk sex. especially after feeling like shit the next day

[selmo93]

Right your on about yourself. That makes more sense. And yeh I wasn't the smartest when it came to that, can't lie. Don't get how it's hypocrisy when I admit I did that? And wtf would I? At the end of the day, it's what I wanted at the time so how can I blame them for that? My fault it bothered me after

[CasaNorba]

yea now you decide to admit it, after getting your little mini skirt lifted

[ChooChooHaha]

Who doesn't hold a negative view about anyone's promiscuity?
Not something to brag about.

Have to say dude: especially about strip clubs, you write some things I like.

[CasaNorba]

a lot of folks treated it like its the only thing to live for in life. especially for women, they are the ones that run the show on that department

[ChooChooHaha]

OMG.

[CasaNorba]

only they can say "yes" or "no" and 99% of the times they say "yes" is when they think they're gonna get something out of you

[ChooChooHaha]

Smh. So fucked up. Have to say dude: especially about strip clubs, you write some things I like.

[Logorithim]

I don't agree with much in this post but I'd like to point out that we males are greatly responsible for promiscuity on the part of women because we encourage it and are happy to have sex with them.

[CasaNorba]

yea because the majority of us are too stupid to realize how much empowerment we're giving women by wanting to get inside them so damn badly

[CasaNorba]

yea most of you are happy having sex with them but there are some folks like me who are not happy feeling exploited by them after just having one simple night of sex

[Logorithim]

Agreed, but that can only happen if we go along with it. It's not as if men never take advantage of women.

[CasaNorba]

" but that can only happen if we go along with it" this isn't always 100% correct. nowadays you don't have to go along, they would drag you along by maybe - filling false rape charge - framing you for paternal fraud - spreading false rumors about you - calling/texting you 24/7 and becoming hostile if you ignore it - trying to send thugs after you - stalking you - trying to pick a fight with you at inappropriate places and the list goes on

[hellionthesagereborn]

Well their is ample evidence of the negative consequences of promiscuity however while women definitley need to own up to their end in this I think men have been ignoring their part as well. I mean you mentioned sleeping around at least early on right? Well that contributes to the problem. Men encourage the behavior in women, then punish them for doing it. Its no different then when women demand that men be "nice" then reject the man for being nice. Men are as responsible in this as women are, the problem is many men take advantage of these women then bad mouth them while many of these women who realize how bad this life is for them refuse to admit to other women that its damaging and instead try to justify the life style essentially ensuring that the younger generation gets duped into the same mistakes. If a man wants a woman who has not slept around then he needs to not advocate promiscuity in women, its as simple as that. You can't save money by wasting it and you can't get decent women by demanding they be indecent, its mutually exclusive. Men need to reject these women but also not push for promiscuity in women. Its mixed signals, your telling them that sleeping around is good only to punish them when they do and its just adding to the problem.

[CasaNorba]

no I think you misinterpret the who entire thing. I never said women sleeping around in general was bad, hell if women actually slept around just for the sake of satisfying her sexual needs, experiment with different sexual partners or just for the sex itself then I really don't see a problem. I believe women have sex drives as well so they should not be punish for having and fulfilling their sexual needs, either who are we to punish them? but now when women sleep around and then start demanding free stuff and self entitlement from all the sexual partners they been with, so much till the point that they think they can ruin the lifes of those sexual partners then right I do have a MAJOR problem. is like wtf, are they all whores now? why should we pay them with our life, resources, criminal record, social reputation, etc. all because they let us in between their legs?

[hellionthesagereborn]

Yet you mentioned several studies that show the more partners a woman has the worse off she becomes? Promiscuity causes problems for men and women but especially women according to data. Yes I agree that a person should be upfront with their intentions and its manipulative to not be. However what your saying is a woman should have sex with increased risk for herself as she is more likely to get an STD then a man is (for obvious reasons) and more likely to get stuck with either a damaging abortion or an expensive child yet you advocate for them to sleep around but with no other benefit? Its a high risk behavior which is why women look for those things you find issue with and sex is low risk for men with high reward which is why you advocate for women to sleep around and give sex without you having to invest anything in return. So what is the difference between you and them? Your both demanding more then what your giving in return,

[hellionthesagereborn]

her by asking for resources, you for asking her to take a big risk. It goes both ways. She offers you sex in return for resources/relationship because it could result in her getting pregnant and stuck with a child (even if this is unconscious this is the reason, its biological) your then demanding that she give you sex which could potentially allow you to reproduce but without you having to commit any resource or time to her (again this is subconscious but it is your biological drive.) your both asking to get something for free. That's why I said its men's fault as much as women's.

[CasaNorba]

yea that was only one of the reasons but never once did I said they should be punished for this and just because women are more likely to get STDs does not justify their dishonesty through the act of promiscuity. also its her fault if she let any of her sex partners go in raw or perhaps if she decided not to take her birth control. about the " Its a high risk behavior which is why women look for those things you find issue with and sex is low risk for men with high reward which is why you advocate for women to sleep around and give sex without you having to invest anything in return." I totally disagree with this because obviously women don't pick the more "alpha guy" for security reasons as you tried to state, women pick these guys to gain an ego boosts and have something to brag about later on after the sex. seriously alpha guys can be risky too

[CasaNorba]

"her by asking for resources, you for asking her to take a big risk. It goes both ways. She offers you sex in return for resources/relationship because it could result in her getting pregnant and stuck with a child (even if this is unconscious this is the reason, its biological) " this is invalid in today's society. women nowadays can use this in reverse and take advantage through child support. hell they can even fuck another guy before you and get pregnant by him and they claim its yours after you had sex with her; then guess who's the one that has to pay child support? either way with your theory on "subconscious" you pretty much claimed that all women are whores, which I totally agree with you either way. that is why I rather fuck escorts and real prostitutes because I know they will never be a threat to me once I have sex with them. they will always leave and stay out of my life once they give me what I demand and I pay them back with what they demand

[hellionthesagereborn]

I'm not saying your claiming they should be punished, but what your saying is you will not be with them, you will avoid them, that's the punishment. As for STD/Pregnancy first and foremost the very recent development of contraceptives does not alter the hundreds of thousands of years of evolution, it doesn't matter to biology that their is now a way around these problems, she will still function (i. e. drive, wants etc.) as if their is no contraceptive further more some times these fail. Its not right of you to encourage promiscuity then get angry when it turns out the woman wants more, you wanted more too didn't you? You wanted to get sex for free, she wanted to get a relationship by giving sex for free, both of you are being irresponsible and their is no way around that. Yes I agree its manipulative of women to do this but what about you? You want them to sleep around, but then when they want a relationship you complain? They want a relationship you want sex, their is no difference.

[hellionthesagereborn]

As for getting the "alpha guy", no most try to lure him into a relationship with sex because they grow attached from sex and they think, wrongly, that men do too. So they believe if they have sex with him he will stay with them. Meanwhile you do the very thing that you claim women do, that is you go for the hot girl have sex with her then ditch her and brag about it so again, how can you complain that this is what they do if you do it as well? That's hypocritical. Again, both are doing the same thing and both are in the wrong for it. As for your claim of women being whores, well I suppose you could claim that since they exchange sex and reproduction for resources and security but they do that because raising children and birth are incredibly resource intensive and would be lethal historically speaking for them. You on the other hand are trying to get sex without paying for it while subconsciously trying to pawn off an offspring on a woman that you have every intention of abandoning.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Along with the child of course so what does that make you? Your using a woman for your own gain and not caring how it impacts her so that makes you and men like you sociopathic. Again, what you say goes both ways.

[CasaNorba]

oh so you are actually agreeing that women are allow to be hypocrites and change their minds while causing dishonesty. oh well I wish these women could be honest and say this themselves before tricking me into that dishonesty. and no I never said I go for the hot girls because I'm not choosy just as long as I'm getting the sex without regretting it later on. so yea more reasons why to continue fucking escorts instead. I'm also well aware that I'm not getting her pregnant subconsciously or not because I always exercise safe sex. so I think you are the real sociopath here supporting women and their dishonesty

[hellionthesagereborn]

Did I say that? No I did not. I said it was wrong of women to do that, I also said it was wrong of men to demand that women give sex for free. I said both are wrong. You just don't want to hear it because it calls you out as well as women that's why you keep ignoring what I have said. You don't want to change your behavior, you don't want to admit that what your doing is just as self absorbed so you project it onto women. Your both equally hypocritical, and your both equally self absorbed. Your both then as I stated before, the problem. Look at your response, do they look like some one who is thinking objectively or some one who feels entitled and who is handling being called out like a child? Grow up man, take responsibility and move on.

[CasaNorba]

yea yea I really thought we were all created equal (sarcasm)

[hellionthesagereborn]

So your admitting that you want to use women but not get used yourself? That your a hypocrite and throwing a tempertantrum? Glad you can finally acknowledge that.

[CasaNorba]

nah dude, stop giving women more reasons for them to want to justify their lack of intelligence! in case you fail to realize is one thing to want sex from a woman and its another to trick them and use them for sex. never once did I said I trick them into committing to them when all I want is sex. you are getting thing very twisted here and I can see why you got two blue downvotes now. again you just keep proving my point that all women are prostitutes one way or another

[hellionthesagereborn]

Well, its not tricking, being dishonest about motives yes but not tricking as you don't go and sleep with her then suddenly wake up in a relationship against your will. Further more by that reasoning men are all pieces of shit because they lie about their motives as well. So now what? I never gave them an excuse and you should be aware of that as I said it was wrong for women to do that just as its wrong to demand that women give up sex without getting anything in return as so many men do. Again, both are to blame. You want free sex she wants a relationship, you are both trying to get something with minimal investment and work, its just laziness on both of your parts. As for claiming women are prostitutes by your reasoning so are you. You whore your self out for money, you whore yourself out for physical pleasure etc. So whats the difference?

[CasaNorba]

"Well, its not tricking, being dishonest about motives yes but not tricking as you don't go and sleep with her then suddenly wake up in a relationship against your will." her calling and bugging me 24/7 is against my will "Further more by that reasoning men are all pieces of shit because they lie about their motives as well." the ones that lie are the ones that get the most pussy. so you tell me who the real pieces of shit are "You want free sex she wants a relationship, you are both trying to get something with minimal investment and work, its just laziness on both of your parts. As for claiming women are prostitutes by your reasoning so are you. You whore your self out for money, you whore yourself out for physical pleasure etc. So whats the difference? " this is why I do Charlie Sheen style and fuck real prostitutes instead

[DinaM]

no u

[CasaNorba]

did not understand a word you said, just letting you know

[DinaM]

It's my standard minimum-effort response for when people start whining.

[CasaNorba]

"minimum effort" I'm pretty sure you read this for a reason

[DinaM]

Yeah. I wanted to see if it was as whiny and stupid as I thought it would be.

[CasaNorba]

you took the time to commented on a stupid mytake for a reason

[DinaM]

Yep. To let you know I thought it was stupid.

[CasaNorba]

well thank you for the time, it was well appreciated

[burpzzzzz]

Of course she think it's stupid but there's women out there agree with the article.

[Dio1982]

Not too shabby a post, but a few nitpicks:

-The science on promiscuity of women and marriage stability is definitely there, but the signal accross the entire spectrum of scientific studies is actually more muted.
Correcting for religious devotion there is a clear trend of 1-2 sex partners versus 10+, and the trend does not favor the promiscous woman.

-You neglect hypergamy and how this interacts with her past experiences and her future expectations in mate selection. This is IMHO the main thrust of the argumentation against promiscuity, and one that women can understand.

-Also, more for women, you ought to highlight relative sexual market value versus age for women and men separately, also why this topic matters for women A LOT.

Most of your other arguments are just about effect, they are not about cause. So, for men, it is sufficient. But women might also be interested in why it is also important for them.

[Bandit74]

Why write a second take?
It’s not like you are going to change anyone's mind about this.

[CasaNorba]

obviously not but at least I can get my point across, especially nowadays when for some reason you HAVE TO see it from a positive point of view otherwise you will get labeled as being sexist, ignorant, etc.

[asdfdude]

Someone needs to redpill you out of redpill, brother. I strongly suggest you take a sabbatical from reading that stuff, and for a week or two limit your reading entirely to things written by well regarded academics and scientists about things within their field of study. There are great books, magazines, and journals out there full of well sourced, peer reviewed information written by people who know what they're talking about.

[CasaNorba]

like Morpheus said in The Matrix "once you take the red pill there is no turning back."

anyways how do I know those books, magazine and journals are not bunked? and if you are talking about PUA bullshit then I'm definitely not interested. its been proven thousands of times that PUAs are nothing but fraud and perhaps you may want to read this other mytake I wrote on that where I explain it a little better

www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a36745-reasons-why-i-believe-puas-are-the-biggest-joke-on-earth

[FýrdracaDócincel]

The only one I can truly agree with at all is number 5.

They're so used to being able to easily get what they want that some of them get pretty lazy. Not all of them do this, of course. In fact I'd say the ones who don't are pretty common as well. Just not QUITE as common.

But there does seem to be an obvious correlation between how sexually experienced a girl is, and how passionless she is in the bedroom.

[CasaNorba]

I see sorry if I sound like I'm patronizing you but I see that you are only 20, but have you bang women in their 20s?

[FýrdracaDócincel]

No. They were around 17-19.

[CasaNorba]

ok I had feeling you would say that. but just to warn you for future reference when women hit their 20s its when they start fucking for favors and status. at this time they've finally learned the power they have between their legs with everything they've experience during their teens. you pretty much confirmed this yourself when you quoted... "They're so used to being able to easily get what they want that some of them get pretty lazy." during this era all their sex hormones are depleted and settled. so they will always be passionless and not put any effort in what they do unless they know that not being passionless is gonna make you give them what they are after. so good luck on your new journey my brother

[FýrdracaDócincel]

With how things have been going, it seems I'll see for myself soon enough. also, I'm impressed that you didn't just blow up at me for my relative inexperience in this subject-matter. Good on you.

[CasaNorba]

haha its all cool, I been there before and I'm not a fan of defaming people's success unless that person is an arrogant jerk who thinks they're better than everybody and feel entitled to shame those who they think low of.

[John_Doesnt]

Because your mother didn't hug you enough.

[CasaNorba]

yea only you would know

[Djaaay]

After reading every single opinion , seems like everyone who replied on this take , wishes to be slutatious without the shame that comes with it. Funny how flys revolve around shit...

[CasaNorba]

I guess this answers the question that young women always ask why growing up "why do women get shame for having multiple sex partners!" and the answer is simple, because women don't have sex for the sake of sexual fulfilment but for collateral for whatever it is that she is desperately after in life

[Djaaay]

I've also noticed , how everyone claims innocent. But yet no one is in agreement about promiscuity being wrong. What's an even a greater insult to injury , this behavior once mastered , becomes your potential cheaters club expert.

[CasaNorba]

very true, but what's sad is it will only bad if the man does it. but what I find very sad is that I really thought women enjoyed sex as much as we. but it doesn't seem that way, judging from the comments I've gotten so far it seems like women do have prostitute encoded in their genes after all

[CT_CD]

Promiscuous women are gross and don't deserve love or respect

[CasaNorba]

very true, since in the end they end up not loving and disrespecting you anyways

[Fortheholidays]

If anything, lucky this is just your opinion and not actually telling people what to do

[CasaNorba]

yea basically there is no point in telling people what to do since the majority of dudes nowadays are too pussywhipped to understand that sex is never free and if you don't pay money for it you will eventually pay with something else. which could be your criminal record, your reputation in society, your emotional/mental health and even your life

[BrutallyHonestGuy]

I don't agree with a lot of things here, but really promiscuous women are almost always AWFUL in bed (in my experience), almost as bad as virgins. I don't know why its almost like they've given up on trying. Of course I'm sure this isn't always the case, but I find it a strange phenomena