The Solution For the MGTOW, Feminists Once and For All!

Lately, there has been this MGTOW movement that is rising. Many tend to demonize them and bash them to feel better for themselves, or because they are programmed to do so, but the MGTOWs arguments aren't without merit.

The Solution For the MGTOW, Feminists Once and For All!

There are injustice and double standards in society sure. Yes during a divorce women have it better usually. Yes, they are more likely to get the kids. Or when the crime of rape is executed by a woman the penalties and moral condemnation by society are much lighter. Yes, women get much easier certain types of jobs. And yes being a pretty female opens many doors in life. And in the dating game its women that choose mostly.

But there is an equal amount of double standards serving men. Like getting certain jobs that are considered "male dominated", being the logical ones versus women the emotional ones. Supposedly being better at finance. Handling stress situations better...

The Solution For the MGTOW, Feminists Once and For All!

MGTOWs make a certain huge and self-sabotaging mistake though.They choose to only search for the evil and injustice in women and not actually introspect the evil and injustice within themselves.

Despite the general perception of MGTOWs as basement dwellers that are just bitter on girls not giving them sugar, many are divorced men with kids. Many had relationships etc. They claim women are bad in certain ways. Can you really put all women in a category due to some bad experiences though? In the end, who chose this bad/manipulative/cheating/never satisfied/whatever else woman in the first place? Wasn't it you?

Men are guilty about choosing a bad partner as women who constantly whine "where did all good men go" are. When we are not spiritually mature, and our heart's desires are tainted and we pick people with our lower instincts as our criteria, we are in for a heartbreak. You should also consider your own stagnation during a relationship that can cause problems to your partner in the long term.

The Solution For the MGTOW, Feminists Once and For All!

In my opinion, the problem is not the moral degradation of women or the injustice in the society. These are just byproducts of the main problem. The problem in our society is that we all, literally, NEED JESUS. Christ transforms your life, your heart, your desires. If men instead of being carnal playboys showed women the good path by advancing spiritually themselves. Women would inevitably follow. I deeply believe that its men who shape the morals of society. Say from social mimicry, say from peer pressure women, would feel the need to adapt, and everyone's lives would become better.

The Solution For the MGTOW, Feminists Once and For All!

When boyfriends though are perverts. When they have certain addictions. When they use and discard women. its normal that toxic people will be produced in the process. When people face relationships as a codependent parasitic symbiosis instead of the union of two mature self-sustainable spiritual individuals. When families don't give timeless values when kids are leafs in the wind, what kind of foundations can they develop? That's why I mock conspiracy theories about social degradation. Yes, cultural marxism exists, but the perpetrators of the disease are no one else but our selves.

The Solution For the MGTOW, Feminists Once and For All!

The problem isn't specific genders, the problem is narcissism in our hearts that makes the world the shit hole it sometimes is. As for people mocking you for being on a spiritual path. Rejoice! If they feel the need to throw poison at you it means our by the grace of God virtuous life indirectly judges their own spiritual shortcomings, and that you are already on a good path if you have such sudden enemies. You can't please everyone and you shouldn't. You should only please God and through that, you will be able to truly develop and share godly the love with everyone as well. To the degree we ostracised God from our lives to that degree injustice will keep ruling the world.

But it doesn't only apply to men. Women could make the first step as well in spiritual development.

The Solution For the MGTOW, Feminists Once and For All!

So... feminists and MGTOWs, you now know how you can "fix others" by fixing yourself first of all. We want to remove the little toothpick from others' eye when we have a huge log stuck in ourselves. That's why all political ideologies fail as well. Thanks for reading.

The Solution For the MGTOW, Feminists Once and For All!

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  • MGTOW exists because of Feminism. If women would stop this stupid charade , then MGTOW would not exist. MGTOW did not create feminism. What women don't understand and seem to miss is that men regardless of their postiions were never considered all that important by society. It was always "women and children first" . Women always had higher value than men. Men opened doors for them, men protected them, men fought over them, men defended their honor, the government instituted laws to protect them, through welfare, child support, strict rape laws, divorces in their favor. Basically , men were disposable and women were valued highly by men. Men chased them, begged them on hand and knee to marry them and threw lavish weddings in honor of a woman accepting them for life. Feminism now is changing their high value to low value. Women are now becoming like men and therefore the MGTOW crowd really doesn't value them anymore. . The feminist women now are starting to feel like they are disposable like "MEN" feel and they don't like it! I mean what's to like about a money grubbing , gold digging, high expectations woman that cares more about her independence from a man and wants to be like a man instead of caring about being a woman, that can add something like care , support , compassion, children etc.. to a relationship. Feminists! You are now one of the boys! Welcome to the club and all the animosity and low value that has been thrown at men for centuries. Your new to the club so start to like it and stop complaining, you'll get used to it, us men did...

    • Love u bro. "Feminism now is changing their high value to low value." A woman's value depends on her beauty and how many men she has been involved with, and since feminism turns women into hoe, their value goes down dramatically. Now that woman is just good for pump and dump. Our old days were so good with no relationship problems and no divorce because men valued women and respected them, women were loyal and usually had one long term monotonous relationship, Emphasis was less on sex but more on commitment and loyalty.

    • Fucking brilliant!

    • This is fucking brilliant.

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  • God said people would grow colder in the last days and that's what happening. Anyways, if that's what some men want to do then eh.

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  • Back in the day, if you wanted to eject your husband from your life and run off with the kids, you were on your own. That was it. You received no support from your X husband. No alimony. No asset division. No child support (alimony++); hence children remained with their fathers. Having a male heir was also important in order to continue the family line and dynasty. It was understood that giving a woman property, power & wealth would mean the destruction of the social fabric. If you bore a child out of wedlock, you were totally on your own and shunned by society.

    Back in those days, women were entirely dependent upon men because work was dirty, dangerous, life threatening, life shortening, low wage and there was a lot of war going around. Lots of men were dying as human sacrifices for the advancement of women & the state. Women were (and are) exempt from the draft. It was far easier then to be a housewife, so women were happy to remain so. It wasn't until work became easy, climate controlled, potentially glamorous, free of death and far less laborious that women demanded their role in employment.

    Today, there are quotas (preference) for women in education and in the most prestigious, most powerful, most lucrative positions, but none in the life threatening, life shortening positions still nearly entirely relegated to men. If a woman leaves her husband, she takes his assets, current income & future income. The father is lucky if he receives 'visitation' rights. If a woman becomes pregnant, should she choose to abort the child, the father has no say. Should she choose to keep it, the father must pay. The father has zero rights whatsoever. Women have all the power. Women call all the shots. Women destroy & or control all male spaces. Female teachers rape their young male pupils and get probation & suspended sentences. Women stab men and get probation & suspended sentences. The phony wage gap. The phony rape culture. Mansplaining. Manspreading. Women sell themselves via sex appeal and then rage over sexual objectification.

    So to sum up, men were trafficked, exploited and disposed of in war for the advancement of women & the state. Men were trafficked and exploited in agriculture and industry to build and maintain all upon the earth, so that women could appropriate, at a civilization-level, all of men's stunning achievements. Under feminism, all of men's power & wealth is being forcefully transferred from men to women via state aggression (socialism).

    • Except for the women who worked in textile mills, inhaling cotton 12 hours a day. They had an average life expectancy of like 38 years. Or the women who pushed/pulled mine carts when they couldn't get a mule down there. Or the women who pulled the plows when their husbands were too poor to afford an ox. Or when one of those nasty wars swept through their village and they were raped and massacred and couldn't even defend themselves. If you are saying women had it easier in the past, you're subjectively wrong. In most people's opinions no one had it easier in the past. Also, the worst jobs in history have consistently been done, not by men or women, but by children (i. e. powder monkeys/cabinboys , floor-sweeps, castrati, etc.) Also, note, that I was specifically referring to your claim that women only entered the workforce when it became convenient, which is definitely not true for the vast majority of women (excluding nobility and such).

    • You put is so eloquently as compared to my posts saying the same exact thing and I applaud you for it! Great job! Only if every woman could understand what you wrote we may be able to reverse this mess. They don't understand how good they got it and who (we men) got them there!

  • when you blame men for "choosing" evil women who do them harm, that's not much different in function than saying that hitler's mother was a jew. it's saying that men bring it on themselves. that's utter nonsense. each person is responsible for their own behavior. and the license of society gives women, generally, greater opportunity to cause evil to men. therefore, it is no wonder that they in fact DO cause more evil to men. because women are people, and people generally tend to try to see what they can get away with. just like speeding. on the freeway most people all fly 80 mph. but the moment people see a cop they start slamming on the breaks- even though the speed limit never changed. men have collectively attempted to work WITHIN the system- politically and legally, but nothing has changed. in fact, things have gotten worse for men. so they are only taking the next logical course of action in their own best interest. remember- men aren't going to be there to look out for YOUR best interest, especially when you already have uncle sam doing it. sure, everybody needs jesus. but that's like saying a lamp is a good thing to have in a cave. besides, you'd be surprised how big a following feminism has in your everyday run of the mill church setting. besides all of this, MGTOW is just the name given to the psychological effect of a study done a long time ago using rats. scientists put males and females into a specially designed 'rat heaven' ideal living environment with abundant food. eventually the females became mean bitches and the males went off into their own private holes and groomed themselves and had nice shiny coats. mating never resumed and the entire rat colony died. when you have abundant resources, the sexes no longer DEPEND on each other- and therefore you no longer have a NEED for procreation. in our society, women no longer NEED men for what they do best. which is why women earn more money now and get all the college degrees while the men go off and play video games. do the math- American society has maybe 1 or 2 more generations before we completely collapse. the problem is WAAAAAY bigger than you not having a date Friday night.

    • Desires are transformed when humans are transformed. Its important to notify everyone's responsibility at dating a bad girl/boy. Unsaved hearts have self destructing tendencies that are more inclined towards mudd and secularism than the heavens... .

    • Everything was good but then you started the feminist ideology towards the end by stating that men are going to go off and play their video games, while women make money. Women only make money because Daddy paid for their college. Trust me... these college grads are no more than the secretaries of yester year. Problem is that Mr. Goodbar is not around in the office as they are hoping. Yes I said it, Mr Goodbar! They are still looking for the man to pay their bills. WOMEN CANNOT WORK TILL THEIR MID 60's or 70's !! WAKE UP!! Women fall apart in their 30's already. Everything gets to them. The booze, the stress, the drama, the diet, everything! Men can go a long time and get their asses kicked daily. Women cannot!! So once these women that are out there right now in this weirdo workforce of unproductive females and they hit 50 years old with no man and no kids maybe they will re think it all and start preaching something else rather than feminism!

    • @RealManAdvice way to go hero... i already said what you're saying... only with less words. it's not feminist ideology that men are checking out of marriage, relationships, and family. feminist ideology states that women are "equal" to men and they should have the power of society and courts to enforce it. what that equates to though is that men become servants instead of kings of their castles. most intelligent, worthy men of THIS generation would refuse such a proposition, and instead spend their time and money enjoying their life instead of riding headlong into a losing battle. the men (and women, myself included) of THIS generation commonly enjoy video games well into adulthood and so when i say "they go off and play video games" that is not me making fun of them. it's not a shaming statement to say they do that, or go play golf, or go to the bar, or whatever else men want to do for fun. the point is that they are doing -that- instead of raising families.

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  • Yeah, this is a good plan. If your plan was to unite both parties as a singular entity against annoying people that try to force religion into every crack they can find.

    • Religion is the opium of the masses in Marx's words, christian spirituality is just Life. no need for spices or sugar coatings. its more of carrying a cross than a bonus. the bonuses are mostly internal.

  • I disagree whole heartedly. You say they only look for the bad but that's not the case. Its women who refuse to acknowledge the bad. Even here you mention okay yes that the entire legal and social system is designed to punish men and benefit women, then you turn around and explain how men should just pretend that is not the case and stop acting like things are unfair. As for your "male jobs" remark, yeah their are jobs better suited for men just as their are jobs better suited for women, the differences is we don't have laws forcing female dominated fields to hire more men or get punished, we don't have female teachers being falsly accused of sexual harassment just because of their gender, we don't have men being paid more for working in female dominated fields, in fact they generally, like for example modeling or social work, get paid less and their is no reason that can be found for that other then their bosses are usually female. You ignore how women can destroy a mans life with one accusation. I mean honestly what the hell is wrong with you? Think about this, you just admitted that the system is stacked against them then turn around and complain that they are attacking all women by acknowledging this inequality and that we should stop thinking about men and start doing what women want and think what women want us to think. You want MGTOW to stop existing? Fine, its actually really easy, acknowledge the terrible thigns women do. I mean you say men can do bad things, but no one is arguing that. In fact MGTOW tries to argue that men can do things that are not horrible because our society is so fixated on how worthless and evil men are and how perfect women are. Every one calls out men, even if they have done no wrong we still blame them for everything. When was the last time we called out women? Even as you admitted to the inequalities (you forgot the court ruling Hermsmann vs Seyer which allows a woman to sue for child support regardless of the circumstances, in this particular court case it was a 12 year old boy who was raped by his babysitter. The babysitter won.) you then immediately explained why we should ignore that and focus on what wrongs men do. No. Until you and women every where start acknowledging the catastrophic damage you do to men, men will continue to be MGTOW, until you and women and feminist groups stop advocating for these unfair and sexist laws, stop exploiting these laws, men will continue to, rightly, be MGTOW. Its your fault.

  • I do like your point of view. Too many narcissists whom victimize themselves instead of trying to be proactive and fix themselves, they blame others whom are different from them.

    • Yeah we all kinda fall in that category. All forms of human seperation begin from our state of heart.

    • It's not blaming it's about educating men how most women are. Men are held responsible for most things they do. Women on the other hand are not.

    • @burpzzzzz if men took the time to understand, empathize and really show love to women, women wouldn't react the way they do. I know, because men just want to have sex, play video games. I read numerous self help books on how to be a better person, partner, how to love better. It's too bad most people don't. It's easier to just call the other side bad, then to love more and be more proactive. Love solves more than hate. You're pointing fingers at what you feel you can't fix, but focus on what you can.

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  • *Yawn* what's for dinner? I am not bored or anything, just hungry.

  • Don't marry or cohabitate is the main rule of the game because it could end up making you lose so much in the long run...

    Nothing about not enjoying a woman's company, just more about not accepting being a floor mat they can walk all over and not subjecting yourself to being taken advantage of.

    Women mad MGTOW happen... sure some good women exist, but the bulk want to use men for financial gain, emotional terrorism, and basically as a resource rather than as a person. Every woman that lies about taking the pill do it for their own selfish reasons and it's important we start teaching boys those girls exist... no, they are not all good, caring, thoughtful, and all that other bullshit. Some of them are real pieces of hoarse shit. If females even recognize that then males will too.

  • You say "a solution for MGTOW" without realizing that MGTOW itself is the solution.

    So we have these problems in society that are giving men a raw deal, and apparently no one really wants to hear about those problems or address them. That's a sad state of affairs but quite frankly to most men it's not new and it's not surprising, and there's almost no reason to believe that it will ever change.

    The solution is that men stop society dictating to them how to live and how to "be a man" and instead they take an objective look at the offer on the table. What is modern marriage like, what is modern fatherhood like, how can it go wrong, and what is the typical case when it does go wrong. What is the level and financial burden, what's the cost/benefit trade off, what is the risk/benefit trade off?

    And then you make rational decisions that are in your own best interest, you make them based on the evidence and not based on what your family wants, or your friends wants, or what society says you must do because you're the man.

    And if your conclusion is that the entire system has become a big shit sandwich for men, which is an increasing sentiment among men, then you walk the fuuuuck away.

    There is no more strikingly efficient way of solving that particular set of problems than just to turn your back on the whole toxic mess.

    This whole Jesus business is nonsense, we're living in an ever secular society, in the UK the latest polls actually show secularism/atheism has now passed 50% and it's not slowing down, no one can choose their belief. Yes some of the christian virtues and values are important in maintaining a health long term relationship and they're the kind of values I'd personally look for in a partner if I was so inclined to start looking again.

    The problem isn't that, it's mostly the consequences of if things go wrong, that's more of a problem with the government and state of the legal system.

  • Um... I've seen the acronym MGTOW a thousand times, but can somebody tell me what it stands for, and is it anything other than just the male sexist arm of the Nazi party?

    • Men going their own way

  • „... double standards serving men... being the logical ones versus women the emotional ones.”
    -That is not a double standard. It’s like saying women having breasts when men don’t is a double standard. That’s just biology dictating some differences in behaviour.

    „MGTOWs make a certain huge and self-sabotaging mistake though. They choose to only search for the evil and injustice in women and not actually introspect the evil and injustice within themselves.”
    -That’s putting the blame where none has to be put. You are almost victim-shaming them. Imagine a person was beaten by another person and as a result, this person began hating that other person. But they are then told that „you only search the evil in the beater but not in yourself.”
    That makes no sense. MGTOW is a response to the situation in current society. When you respond to an environment, you respond to IT, not YOURSELF.

    „Despite the general perception of MGTOWs as basement dwellers”
    -That is the general perception of the uninformed feminists about MGTOW. In reality, the whole thing about MGTOW is to be self-sufficient.

    „ Can you really put all women in a category due to some bad experiences though?”
    -They only do so because that is exactly what feminists do to all men.

    „In the end, who chose this bad/manipulative/cheating/never satisfied/whatever else woman in the first place? Wasn't it you?”
    -The perpetual issue that many such men express is that the woman acted all fine and dandy until he put the ring on her which resulted in her personality taking a 180 from good girl to evil cunt.

    „Men are guilty about choosing a bad partner as women who constantly whine "where did all good men go" are.”
    -Undeniably, people are indeed responsible for who they choose, but the other side often presents a false image of themselves.
    „The problem in our society is that we all, literally, NEED JESUS.”
    -I’m not going to continue further. What we need is for people to not be selfish pricks, men and women. Returning to conservative religious values in which both sides, women included, had even more disadvantages, won’t help.

  • 70% of men 18-35 are single, the real divorce rate is 90% in some demographics, women initiate 80% of divorce. This is not a benefit to men in anyway shape or form, unless you are a masochistist sexfiend, bent on financial and emotional suicide as a punishent.
    MGTOW is a response to the social environment. The Grass Eaters of Japan are slightly ahead of the US.
    The birthrate in both countries is at an all time low since the 1800's.
    So are men the ones that are to be 100% accountable or should we just demonize the MGTOWs and Grasseaters? Feminist would agree.
    www.avoiceformen.com/.../

    www.foxnews.com/.../why-men-wont-marry.html

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  • Really? We need the guy who got himself nailed to a cross? Thanks but no thanks.

    • Who got Himself nailed to a cross so that you should not have to lift your own cross alone. Where you see weakness and defeat, was on the contrary the moment of utmost glory of God. The ultimate sacrifice required the ultimate humility and injustice to take place. Don't look down upon what can transform your life. God forgive him cause he doesn't know what he is talking about when he talks about your Cross.

    • Right... ultimate sacrifice. No I prefer the guy under the tree more if it comes down to it. At least he got the food and nobody tried to kill him.

  • "The problem in our society is that we all, literally, NEED JESUS. Christ transforms your life, your heart, your desires."

    Thats when this post turned to religious b. s

    • In Christ hearts unite in One will and one mind. all other philosophies, waves, political ideologies etc are doomed to fail cause their products of human ego and imperfection and they don't really close the gap amognst people.

  • nice mytake i dare say you inspired me but there's one thing thats nagging me i remember you saying that woman enjoy a nice man in a relationship but when they want sex they cheat and fuck a bad boy im thinking how can you preach this but condone and agree with such behaviours?

  • Interesting take - Yeah in all groups you get good proponents and bad proponents of their ideals - Unfortunately I would class religious people the same way - I don't think there will ever be a universal solution because there will some bad eggs in the human population so it is up to those who consider themselves good eggs just to keep going and ignore the bad eggs who try to bring us down.

    • My friend even if 60 of people went spiritual the world would be a completely transformed place. Unrecognisable in comparison to what we have today.

    • 60% of

  • You miss the point about MGTOW. You're talking about the MRA. MGTOW is a philosophy where a man's life is not revolved around women. It's a philosophy where men find purpose which includes improving themselves. Your premise on double standards for men are false. Women are being heavily recruited for STEM; generally, men are more rational than emotional. MGTOW do not care if society fails or succeeds; they're just walking away. There is no political agenda for this philosophy. There are no leaders, just guides. Every man is supposed to be his own leader. The problem is the destruction of the core family, the taking away of men's authority. Women, generally, do not take responsibility for their actions; it's always men's fault. Men are disposable.

  • - Feminism is a hate movement out to destroy
    - MGTOW is a self preservation movement caused by the spread of Feminism.

    All we need to do is finally win the culture war and put Feminists in the same pile as all the other human trash, like rapists, communists, Nazi's, racists etc..

    After that society will heal and be much better off and thanks to the internet EVERYONE!! who was ever a Feminist will be FOREVER exposed and will be socially outcast for the remainder of their lives.

    /problem solved.

    • "All we need to do is finally win the culture war and put Feminists in the same pile as all the other human trash, like rapists, communists, Nazi's, racists etc.." LOVE YOU MY BRO, In our old days, there were no divorces, no relationship problems because there was no feminism. Feminism turned women in hoes, and you no man wants a how as a housewife, hence no man respects a how, when you don't respect you cannot love your partner, No love = divorce/relationship problems/breakups.

    • @Hungry_Shark what "old days" do you speak of? The relationship between love and marriage is a rather new concept. Feminism, at least the first and second wave (none of that sjw bullshit) elevated women from effectively chattel to people.

    • @lilaqua "elevated women from effectively chattel to people." That was happening anyway, even the right to vote for women, Feminists love to alter history and spin the truth to push an agenda. Feminism is a threat narrative just like any other, they even adopted the WKKK and simply changed "blacks" to "men" and kept right on going, pretty sure that was second wave? would have to double check. The truth is men and women were BOTH chattel, life was hard and shitty for both genders and each suffered gender oppression in their own way due largely to necessity in order to survive. Nearly everything Feminism say is 50% lie and 50% omission of inconvenient facts.

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  • You said the right words. Its been a while I've been thinking that feminism is a load of crap but didn't spoke out becoz all will think im being sexiest.
    The problem is not with the opposite gender, but all who think that you deserve less or who wants to degrade you. We should blame them rather than blaming other innocent who are also prey of suvh predators.

  • I think this is a very balanced take. Women can be very picky about what they want. On one hand they malign and laugh at the MGTOW losers for not having any balls or game, and on the other hand they malign and laugh at guys like me for being players. How does that work? It's almost as if they will accept only one narrow type of man.

    This magical beast has to be physically locked-in, handsome, tall, he has to have balls of steel, has to have an advanced degree or money to compensate, has to blah blah blah blah. Yeah, and that guy is going to give up shots at all the other women in the world to settle with your slightly-above-average ass? Is he also insane in your fantasy?

  • "We love others best when we love God most."?
    Get that shit out of here, there is no god and never has been.
    Just be good to each other and stop worrying about titles.

    • Only the fools said there is no God. The whole atheist agenda is a modern creation and is based on bad science and prejudice.

    • "There have been nearly 3,000 gods so far but only yours actually exists. The others are silly made up nonsense. But not yours. Yours is real." - Ricky Gervais. The only bad science is that which offers up things as facts without supporting evidence. Like religion. Incidentally, there have been atheist writings since around 500 BCE. For at least 2,500 years, humans have known that it is folly to believe in deities. Show me evidence of any god you believe in.

    • It's very easy. Incorruptible bodies of saints after centuries that smell like flowers and heal the sick, holy water that never gets spoilt, the holy light that is ignited by on own every year. they are countless really.

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