The Solution For the MGTOW, Feminists Once and For All!

Lately, there has been this MGTOW movement that is rising. Many tend to demonize them and bash them to feel better for themselves, or because they are programmed to do so, but the MGTOWs arguments aren't without merit.

There are injustice and double standards in society sure. Yes during a divorce women have it better usually. Yes, they are more likely to get the kids. Or when the crime of rape is executed by a woman the penalties and moral condemnation by society are much lighter. Yes, women get much easier certain types of jobs. And yes being a pretty female opens many doors in life. And in the dating game its women that choose mostly.

But there is an equal amount of double standards serving men. Like getting certain jobs that are considered "male dominated", being the logical ones versus women the emotional ones. Supposedly being better at finance. Handling stress situations better...

MGTOWs make a certain huge and self-sabotaging mistake though.They choose to only search for the evil and injustice in women and not actually introspect the evil and injustice within themselves.

Despite the general perception of MGTOWs as basement dwellers that are just bitter on girls not giving them sugar, many are divorced men with kids. Many had relationships etc. They claim women are bad in certain ways. Can you really put all women in a category due to some bad experiences though? In the end, who chose this bad/manipulative/cheating/never satisfied/whatever else woman in the first place? Wasn't it you?

Men are guilty about choosing a bad partner as women who constantly whine "where did all good men go" are. When we are not spiritually mature, and our heart's desires are tainted and we pick people with our lower instincts as our criteria, we are in for a heartbreak. You should also consider your own stagnation during a relationship that can cause problems to your partner in the long term.

In my opinion, the problem is not the moral degradation of women or the injustice in the society. These are just byproducts of the main problem. The problem in our society is that we all, literally, NEED JESUS. Christ transforms your life, your heart, your desires. If men instead of being carnal playboys showed women the good path by advancing spiritually themselves. Women would inevitably follow. I deeply believe that its men who shape the morals of society. Say from social mimicry, say from peer pressure women, would feel the need to adapt, and everyone's lives would become better.

When boyfriends though are perverts. When they have certain addictions. When they use and discard women. its normal that toxic people will be produced in the process. When people face relationships as a codependent parasitic symbiosis instead of the union of two mature self-sustainable spiritual individuals. When families don't give timeless values when kids are leafs in the wind, what kind of foundations can they develop? That's why I mock conspiracy theories about social degradation. Yes, cultural marxism exists, but the perpetrators of the disease are no one else but our selves.

The problem isn't specific genders, the problem is narcissism in our hearts that makes the world the shit hole it sometimes is. As for people mocking you for being on a spiritual path. Rejoice! If they feel the need to throw poison at you it means our by the grace of God virtuous life indirectly judges their own spiritual shortcomings, and that you are already on a good path if you have such sudden enemies. You can't please everyone and you shouldn't. You should only please God and through that, you will be able to truly develop and share godly the love with everyone as well. To the degree we ostracised God from our lives to that degree injustice will keep ruling the world.

But it doesn't only apply to men. Women could make the first step as well in spiritual development.

So... feminists and MGTOWs, you now know how you can "fix others" by fixing yourself first of all. We want to remove the little toothpick from others' eye when we have a huge log stuck in ourselves. That's why all political ideologies fail as well. Thanks for reading.


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  • MGTOW exists because of Feminism. If women would stop this stupid charade , then MGTOW would not exist. MGTOW did not create feminism. What women don't understand and seem to miss is that men regardless of their postiions were never considered all that important by society. It was always "women and children first" . Women always had higher value than men. Men opened doors for them, men protected them, men fought over them, men defended their honor, the government instituted laws to protect them, through welfare, child support, strict rape laws, divorces in their favor. Basically , men were disposable and women were valued highly by men. Men chased them, begged them on hand and knee to marry them and threw lavish weddings in honor of a woman accepting them for life. Feminism now is changing their high value to low value. Women are now becoming like men and therefore the MGTOW crowd really doesn't value them anymore. . The feminist women now are starting to feel like they are disposable like "MEN" feel and they don't like it! I mean what's to like about a money grubbing , gold digging, high expectations woman that cares more about her independence from a man and wants to be like a man instead of caring about being a woman, that can add something like care , support , compassion, children etc.. to a relationship. Feminists! You are now one of the boys! Welcome to the club and all the animosity and low value that has been thrown at men for centuries. Your new to the club so start to like it and stop complaining, you'll get used to it, us men did...

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    • Love u bro. "Feminism now is changing their high value to low value."

      A woman's value depends on her beauty and how many men she has been involved with, and since feminism turns women into hoe, their value goes down dramatically.
      Now that woman is just good for pump and dump.

      Our old days were so good with no relationship problems and no divorce because men valued women and respected them, women were loyal and usually had one long term monotonous relationship,
      Emphasis was less on sex but more on commitment and loyalty.

    • Fucking brilliant!

    • This is fucking brilliant.

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  • God said people would grow colder in the last days and that's what happening. Anyways, if that's what some men want to do then eh.

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  • You miss the point about MGTOW. You're talking about the MRA. MGTOW is a philosophy where a man's life is not revolved around women. It's a philosophy where men find purpose which includes improving themselves. Your premise on double standards for men are false. Women are being heavily recruited for STEM; generally, men are more rational than emotional. MGTOW do not care if society fails or succeeds; they're just walking away. There is no political agenda for this philosophy. There are no leaders, just guides. Every man is supposed to be his own leader. The problem is the destruction of the core family, the taking away of men's authority. Women, generally, do not take responsibility for their actions; it's always men's fault. Men are disposable.

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  • A fundamental misunderstanding that @levantine99 has of MGTOW is that she thinks that MGTOW want to fix women, or the dynamic between men and women.
    MGTOW are not interested in fixing anything, or anyone, other than themselves.
    We have walked away from all forms of interaction with females, so far as that is possible in society.
    It is the Men's Rights Advocates who want to fix things. They have been trying to do that for the past 30 years and, so far, have achieved nothing.
    This is why MGTOW consider it an act of futility to attempt to engage with women and society, in an attempt to address the considerable legal problems that Feminist lobbying has caused.
    These problems include, but are not limited to: grotesquely unjust divorce laws; Title IX; Affirmative Consent; Listen and Believe; false rape allegations being used as a revenge weapon; false workplace sexual harassment allegations; preferential treatment being given to women in education and employment; and men being told incessantly by screaming harpies and the media that we are vile and that our masculinity is toxic.
    In Britain and parts of Europe, a man can be charged with an Orwellian thought crime and sent to prison for following his normal heterosexual interest in women and approaching a woman.
    See:
    www.yorkpress.co.uk/.../
    www.theguardian.com/.../nottinghamshire-police-count-wolf-whistling-hate-crime
    www.menshealth.com/.../france-street-harassment-catcalling-ban
    Catcalling was the pretext upon which the laws were introduced, but the way that they were written criminalised any form of interaction that a woman decided that she did not like.
    Here in Australia, moves are beginning to use the same pretext to criminalise heterosexual interaction.
    It is clearly part of a global agenda by Feminists to criminalise heterosexuality.
    www.couriermail.com.au/.../8016f395328159ebe5dcae9070fcaaae
    Add all that together. . . and some people wonder why every day more men take the decision to shun women and go MGTOW.
    The most interesting among those who criticise MGTOW are the Feminists. They should be delighted that we have walked away and are no longer interested in women. We have given them what they said that they wanted.

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    • See I can sympathize with everything you have cited above, up until your last sentence. There lies my point of objection to the MGTOW lifestyle. Don't you feel some urge or sense of obligation to fight against this madness perpetuated by these radical modern male-hating "feminists"? What about procreation? Don't you have a desire to have some children who would carry your ideals and principals to the next generations?

      Please note that I am not attacking the lifestyle here; you seem thoughtful and logical and I am genuinely curious on what you (and other men of the MGTOW) think about what I wrote.

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    • @Truthatanycost Well, you have been alive for 101 years, so I assume that you have seen worse days.

      On a serious note, I refuse to give in to cynicism; if something is fucked, I either try to fix it properly or learn to live with it as is. Throwing my hands up in the air and turning my back on the issue is the ugliest behavior, in my view.

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      Well Said! Brother!! If a man is going to be successful , the last thing on earth he needs is a woman around him distracting him. Women no longer play nice , so why should men continue to practice traditional methods of courting women. The feminists killed that and basically referred to men as walking penis's that can be replaced by a vibrator, so what's wrong with looking at women as "holes" that can be replaced when necessary with your hand. No need to marry a hole, boys!

  • Back in the day, if you wanted to eject your husband from your life and run off with the kids, you were on your own. That was it. You received no support from your X husband. No alimony. No asset division. No child support (alimony++); hence children remained with their fathers. Having a male heir was also important in order to continue the family line and dynasty. It was understood that giving a woman property, power & wealth would mean the destruction of the social fabric. If you bore a child out of wedlock, you were totally on your own and shunned by society.

    Back in those days, women were entirely dependent upon men because work was dirty, dangerous, life threatening, life shortening, low wage and there was a lot of war going around. Lots of men were dying as human sacrifices for the advancement of women & the state. Women were (and are) exempt from the draft. It was far easier then to be a housewife, so women were happy to remain so. It wasn't until work became easy, climate controlled, potentially glamorous, free of death and far less laborious that women demanded their role in employment.

    Today, there are quotas (preference) for women in education and in the most prestigious, most powerful, most lucrative positions, but none in the life threatening, life shortening positions still nearly entirely relegated to men. If a woman leaves her husband, she takes his assets, current income & future income. The father is lucky if he receives 'visitation' rights. If a woman becomes pregnant, should she choose to abort the child, the father has no say. Should she choose to keep it, the father must pay. The father has zero rights whatsoever. Women have all the power. Women call all the shots. Women destroy & or control all male spaces. Female teachers rape their young male pupils and get probation & suspended sentences. Women stab men and get probation & suspended sentences. The phony wage gap. The phony rape culture. Mansplaining. Manspreading. Women sell themselves via sex appeal and then rage over sexual objectification.

    So to sum up, men were trafficked, exploited and disposed of in war for the advancement of women & the state. Men were trafficked and exploited in agriculture and industry to build and maintain all upon the earth, so that women could appropriate, at a civilization-level, all of men's stunning achievements. Under feminism, all of men's power & wealth is being forcefully transferred from men to women via state aggression (socialism).

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    • Except for the women who worked in textile mills, inhaling cotton 12 hours a day. They had an average life expectancy of like 38 years. Or the women who pushed/pulled mine carts when they couldn't get a mule down there. Or the women who pulled the plows when their husbands were too poor to afford an ox. Or when one of those nasty wars swept through their village and they were raped and massacred and couldn't even defend themselves. If you are saying women had it easier in the past, you're subjectively wrong. In most people's opinions no one had it easier in the past. Also, the worst jobs in history have consistently been done, not by men or women, but by children (i. e. powder monkeys/cabinboys , floor-sweeps, castrati, etc.)

      Also, note, that I was specifically referring to your claim that women only entered the workforce when it became convenient, which is definitely not true for the vast majority of women (excluding nobility and such).

    • You put is so eloquently as compared to my posts saying the same exact thing and I applaud you for it! Great job! Only if every woman could understand what you wrote we may be able to reverse this mess. They don't understand how good they got it and who (we men) got them there!

  • "MGTOWs make a certain huge and self-sabotaging mistake though. They choose to only search for the evil and injustice in women and not actually introspect the evil and injustice within themselves."

    "In the end, who chose this bad/manipulative/cheating/never satisfied/whatever else woman in the first place? Wasn't it you?"

    LMBO: You hit them with the truth.

    Wicked men often fall into the hands of wicked women.

    Proverbs 22:14: The mouth of an immoral woman is a deep pit; He who is abhorred by the Lord will fall there.

    Ecclesiastes 7:26: And I find more bitter than death the woman whose heart is snares and nets, whose hands are fetters.
    He who pleases God shall escape from her, but the sinner shall be trapped by her.

    www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a36792-quit-with-the-stupidity-you-re-the-one-at-fault

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    • exactly. its ALWAYS a two-way thing.

    • One with the spirit of God has transformed desires and standards, and also discerns the spirits of others. The secular man usually is aroused and impressed by the jezebel woman. The enlightened man feels pitty and sympathy for her fallen state. He can pray for her but would never marry her.

  • You say "a solution for MGTOW" without realizing that MGTOW itself is the solution.

    So we have these problems in society that are giving men a raw deal, and apparently no one really wants to hear about those problems or address them. That's a sad state of affairs but quite frankly to most men it's not new and it's not surprising, and there's almost no reason to believe that it will ever change.

    The solution is that men stop society dictating to them how to live and how to "be a man" and instead they take an objective look at the offer on the table. What is modern marriage like, what is modern fatherhood like, how can it go wrong, and what is the typical case when it does go wrong. What is the level and financial burden, what's the cost/benefit trade off, what is the risk/benefit trade off?

    And then you make rational decisions that are in your own best interest, you make them based on the evidence and not based on what your family wants, or your friends wants, or what society says you must do because you're the man.

    And if your conclusion is that the entire system has become a big shit sandwich for men, which is an increasing sentiment among men, then you walk the fuuuuck away.

    There is no more strikingly efficient way of solving that particular set of problems than just to turn your back on the whole toxic mess.

    This whole Jesus business is nonsense, we're living in an ever secular society, in the UK the latest polls actually show secularism/atheism has now passed 50% and it's not slowing down, no one can choose their belief. Yes some of the christian virtues and values are important in maintaining a health long term relationship and they're the kind of values I'd personally look for in a partner if I was so inclined to start looking again.

    The problem isn't that, it's mostly the consequences of if things go wrong, that's more of a problem with the government and state of the legal system.

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  • - Feminism is a hate movement out to destroy
    - MGTOW is a self preservation movement caused by the spread of Feminism.

    All we need to do is finally win the culture war and put Feminists in the same pile as all the other human trash, like rapists, communists, Nazi's, racists etc..

    After that society will heal and be much better off and thanks to the internet EVERYONE!! who was ever a Feminist will be FOREVER exposed and will be socially outcast for the remainder of their lives.

    /problem solved.

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    • "All we need to do is finally win the culture war and put Feminists in the same pile as all the other human trash, like rapists, communists, Nazi's, racists etc.."

      LOVE YOU MY BRO,
      In our old days, there were no divorces, no relationship problems because there was no feminism.
      Feminism turned women in hoes, and you no man wants a how as a housewife, hence no man respects a how, when you don't respect you cannot love your partner,
      No love = divorce/relationship problems/breakups.

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    • Do you support the first and second wave of feminism?

    • @lilaqua Nope, I do not support any wave of Feminism. I support specific issues, or even values but not Feminism it self in anyway. It has always been as horrible as it is now, the only thing that's changed is people becoming aware of it because of the internet.

      Feminism isn't even new, it's a part of the cycle of civilizations, "Feminism" always becomes a part of a culture as it approaches it's collapsing phase, a fantastic example of this can be found in Ancient Rome. It got so bad in Rome that they had a HUGE "MGTOW" movement where men decided to opt out of society instead of being a part of it. They would refuse to marry or have kids, birth rates dropped, they would party with their bros and use prostitutes instead, they made laws to tax bachelors and other such things to try and force men to participate in the "Feminist" system but it was futile.

      Lots of other factors as well but culturally "Feminism" pushes a society towards death.

  • I disagree whole heartedly. You say they only look for the bad but that's not the case. Its women who refuse to acknowledge the bad. Even here you mention okay yes that the entire legal and social system is designed to punish men and benefit women, then you turn around and explain how men should just pretend that is not the case and stop acting like things are unfair. As for your "male jobs" remark, yeah their are jobs better suited for men just as their are jobs better suited for women, the differences is we don't have laws forcing female dominated fields to hire more men or get punished, we don't have female teachers being falsly accused of sexual harassment just because of their gender, we don't have men being paid more for working in female dominated fields, in fact they generally, like for example modeling or social work, get paid less and their is no reason that can be found for that other then their bosses are usually female. You ignore how women can destroy a mans life with one accusation. I mean honestly what the hell is wrong with you? Think about this, you just admitted that the system is stacked against them then turn around and complain that they are attacking all women by acknowledging this inequality and that we should stop thinking about men and start doing what women want and think what women want us to think. You want MGTOW to stop existing? Fine, its actually really easy, acknowledge the terrible thigns women do. I mean you say men can do bad things, but no one is arguing that. In fact MGTOW tries to argue that men can do things that are not horrible because our society is so fixated on how worthless and evil men are and how perfect women are. Every one calls out men, even if they have done no wrong we still blame them for everything. When was the last time we called out women? Even as you admitted to the inequalities (you forgot the court ruling Hermsmann vs Seyer which allows a woman to sue for child support regardless of the circumstances, in this particular court case it was a 12 year old boy who was raped by his babysitter. The babysitter won.) you then immediately explained why we should ignore that and focus on what wrongs men do. No. Until you and women every where start acknowledging the catastrophic damage you do to men, men will continue to be MGTOW, until you and women and feminist groups stop advocating for these unfair and sexist laws, stop exploiting these laws, men will continue to, rightly, be MGTOW. Its your fault.

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  • „... double standards serving men... being the logical ones versus women the emotional ones.”
    -That is not a double standard. It’s like saying women having breasts when men don’t is a double standard. That’s just biology dictating some differences in behaviour.

    „MGTOWs make a certain huge and self-sabotaging mistake though. They choose to only search for the evil and injustice in women and not actually introspect the evil and injustice within themselves.”
    -That’s putting the blame where none has to be put. You are almost victim-shaming them. Imagine a person was beaten by another person and as a result, this person began hating that other person. But they are then told that „you only search the evil in the beater but not in yourself.”
    That makes no sense. MGTOW is a response to the situation in current society. When you respond to an environment, you respond to IT, not YOURSELF.

    „Despite the general perception of MGTOWs as basement dwellers”
    -That is the general perception of the uninformed feminists about MGTOW. In reality, the whole thing about MGTOW is to be self-sufficient.

    „ Can you really put all women in a category due to some bad experiences though?”
    -They only do so because that is exactly what feminists do to all men.

    „In the end, who chose this bad/manipulative/cheating/never satisfied/whatever else woman in the first place? Wasn't it you?”
    -The perpetual issue that many such men express is that the woman acted all fine and dandy until he put the ring on her which resulted in her personality taking a 180 from good girl to evil cunt.

    „Men are guilty about choosing a bad partner as women who constantly whine "where did all good men go" are.”
    -Undeniably, people are indeed responsible for who they choose, but the other side often presents a false image of themselves.
    „The problem in our society is that we all, literally, NEED JESUS.”
    -I’m not going to continue further. What we need is for people to not be selfish pricks, men and women. Returning to conservative religious values in which both sides, women included, had even more disadvantages, won’t help.

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  • "MGTOWs make a certain huge and self-sabotaging mistake though. They choose to only search for the evil and injustice in women and not actually introspect the evil and injustice within themselves."

    how is any of this self-sabotaging?

    "They claim women are bad in certain ways. Can you really put all women in a category due to some bad experiences though? In the end, who chose this bad/manipulative/cheating/never satisfied/whatever else woman in the first place? Wasn't it you?
    They claim women are bad in certain ways. Can you really put all women in a category due to some bad experiences though? In the end, who chose this bad/manipulative/cheating/never satisfied/whatever else woman in the first place? Wasn't it you?"

    you do know men aren't psychic right? we can't tell if women are gonna be conniving backstabbers in the future and lets not forget that women make this mistake a lot more than we do

    " If men instead of being carnal playboys showed women the good path by advancing spiritually themselves. Women would inevitably follow."

    this is bullshit because obviously women aren't interested in choosing the right path, they are more interested in choosing the path that's gonna get them the most money, status and attention they are actually fiening after

    "So... feminists and MGTOWs, you now know how you can "fix others" by fixing yourself first of all. We want to remove the little toothpick from others' eye when we have a huge log stuck in ourselves. That's why all political ideologies fail as well. Thanks for reading."

    don't know about feminists but we are already fixing ourselves by stepping out of the gene pool and dedicate more time to better ourselves instead

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    • you develop a discretion of spirits the more you advance spiritually. this is a confirmed by daily experience of conscious christians.

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    • Great i hope you die with no rergets. If you believe you have any blemishes that might hinder your presense in front of God, then its never late to embrace repentance even with your last breath. Whatever happens avoid injustice with all your might. and if you fall its only humane to stand up again

    • yeap the fact that I hate injustice is basically one of the reasons why I don't worship any religion right now.

  • Don't marry or cohabitate is the main rule of the game because it could end up making you lose so much in the long run...

    Nothing about not enjoying a woman's company, just more about not accepting being a floor mat they can walk all over and not subjecting yourself to being taken advantage of.

    Women mad MGTOW happen... sure some good women exist, but the bulk want to use men for financial gain, emotional terrorism, and basically as a resource rather than as a person. Every woman that lies about taking the pill do it for their own selfish reasons and it's important we start teaching boys those girls exist... no, they are not all good, caring, thoughtful, and all that other bullshit. Some of them are real pieces of hoarse shit. If females even recognize that then males will too.

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  • 70% of men 18-35 are single, the real divorce rate is 90% in some demographics, women initiate 80% of divorce. This is not a benefit to men in anyway shape or form, unless you are a masochistist sexfiend, bent on financial and emotional suicide as a punishent.
    MGTOW is a response to the social environment. The Grass Eaters of Japan are slightly ahead of the US.
    The birthrate in both countries is at an all time low since the 1800's.
    So are men the ones that are to be 100% accountable or should we just demonize the MGTOWs and Grasseaters? Feminist would agree.
    www.avoiceformen.com/.../

    www.foxnews.com/.../why-men-wont-marry.html

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  • I think this is a very balanced take. Women can be very picky about what they want. On one hand they malign and laugh at the MGTOW losers for not having any balls or game, and on the other hand they malign and laugh at guys like me for being players. How does that work? It's almost as if they will accept only one narrow type of man.

    This magical beast has to be physically locked-in, handsome, tall, he has to have balls of steel, has to have an advanced degree or money to compensate, has to blah blah blah blah. Yeah, and that guy is going to give up shots at all the other women in the world to settle with your slightly-above-average ass? Is he also insane in your fantasy?

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  • "But there is an equal amount of double standards serving men. Like getting certain jobs that are considered "male dominated", being the logical ones versus women the emotional ones. Supposedly being better at finance. Handling stress situations better... "
    How many women are willing to work over time for those kind of pay? Most women aren't willing to work 70 to 80 hours a week. Most women want balance in the work place. Also women aren't earning those higher pay jobs they get. They are getting higher paying jobs under the quota requirements which is usually under gender equality.

    "Men are guilty about choosing a bad partner as women who constantly whine "where did all good men go" are. When we are not spiritually mature, and our heart's desires are tainted and we pick people with our lower instincts as our criteria, we are in for a heartbreak"
    Some men are blaming the women not all all MGTOW men. Most are educated men how women are. I didn't start going my own way due to heart break I went my own way due to advice of married men who told me their experience in marriage.

    I can tell you most women are working against men not WITH MEN.
    Men are getting arrested for false rape and boys are getting raped by older women these are serious issues. Maybe if women call out other women for their lies would be better.

    You do not get it society is anti male and doesn't care high rates of men are committing suicide.

    Odd you talk about god and but you talk about double standards about men having higher paying jobs. Men are suppose to be leaders. These same women who earn higher income refuse to marry a man who earns less. Let's look at dating where most men are paying for all if not all dates. While women cry about wage gap they hold no responsibility in social settings.

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    • "When boyfriends though are perverts. When they have certain addictions. When they use and discard women. its normal that toxic people will be produced in the process."
      Women are the ones really doing it. Having several relationship at the same time or monkey branching man to man. A lot of men know that the woman there are with is not there's. It is just their turn to be with the woman for short term relationship.

    • You hit the nail on the head and are 100% correct. I employ 12 women. They can barely work 20 hours a week. Forget 70 hours a week. As I explained in an earlier thread. Women are taking jobs and careers from "real men" that will actually do something with those jobs and careers and not quit after 10 years once they find a wealthy male to take care of them. Feminists created the MGTOW movement. Men just had enough and not all are basement dwellers. They are just disconnecting and doing their own thing. Yes the men that are doing this had to go through a learning curve , education if you want to call it, to get there, through the bad relationships and unappreciative women. The tribe is the feminists and it is seen in every single aspect of the media, movies, shows and everywhere you look. It's actually disgusting to watch. But hey, if I'm out at sea on the Titanic , I'm not giving up my life boat seat to a woman. With this role reversal Men and Children First!

  • Nice take.

    "MGTOWs make a certain huge and self-sabotaging mistake though. They choose to only search for the evil and injustice in women and not actually introspect the evil and injustice within themselves."

    This is something i concluded for myself after researching the mgtow movement. Altough, im not into victim blaming (im sure many mgtowers had some horrible experiences with women),
    I think one of the problems with them is that they dont seem to touch upon faults of men at all. But to be fair, they deal with mens issues exclusively and only have goals for male wellbeing and safety, so i dont think they are bothered with male aggressors, plus the feminists are doing too good of a job pointing out male aggressors , to the extent of demonixing regular men, so i guess there is no need for mgtowers to add anything there.

    But either way, realizing that none of us are perfect, and accepting the reality we live in, has made me abandon both schools of thinking (feminism and mgtow)

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  • This is a great my take, But i would rather GiFt them This & move along... www.amazon.com/.../B00BXKB43I

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  • Interesting take - Yeah in all groups you get good proponents and bad proponents of their ideals - Unfortunately I would class religious people the same way - I don't think there will ever be a universal solution because there will some bad eggs in the human population so it is up to those who consider themselves good eggs just to keep going and ignore the bad eggs who try to bring us down.

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    • My friend even if 60 of people went spiritual the world would be a completely transformed place. Unrecognisable in comparison to what we have today.

  • nice mytake i dare say you inspired me but there's one thing thats nagging me i remember you saying that woman enjoy a nice man in a relationship but when they want sex they cheat and fuck a bad boy im thinking how can you preach this but condone and agree with such behaviours?

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  • love it

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  • So many women want to be beaten and raped. It's hard be be Godly and still make it with these women. I've tried, and I've been passed over for more hard core guys. In the heat of the moment, hormones rule over salvation with these ladies. Better to just bang her hard and prey that she doesn't slap you with a rape charge afterwards. Such is my reason for going MGTOW.

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  • Um... I've seen the acronym MGTOW a thousand times, but can somebody tell me what it stands for, and is it anything other than just the male sexist arm of the Nazi party?

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  • when you blame men for "choosing" evil women who do them harm, that's not much different in function than saying that hitler's mother was a jew. it's saying that men bring it on themselves. that's utter nonsense. each person is responsible for their own behavior. and the license of society gives women, generally, greater opportunity to cause evil to men. therefore, it is no wonder that they in fact DO cause more evil to men. because women are people, and people generally tend to try to see what they can get away with. just like speeding. on the freeway most people all fly 80 mph. but the moment people see a cop they start slamming on the breaks- even though the speed limit never changed. men have collectively attempted to work WITHIN the system- politically and legally, but nothing has changed. in fact, things have gotten worse for men. so they are only taking the next logical course of action in their own best interest. remember- men aren't going to be there to look out for YOUR best interest, especially when you already have uncle sam doing it. sure, everybody needs jesus. but that's like saying a lamp is a good thing to have in a cave. besides, you'd be surprised how big a following feminism has in your everyday run of the mill church setting. besides all of this, MGTOW is just the name given to the psychological effect of a study done a long time ago using rats. scientists put males and females into a specially designed 'rat heaven' ideal living environment with abundant food. eventually the females became mean bitches and the males went off into their own private holes and groomed themselves and had nice shiny coats. mating never resumed and the entire rat colony died. when you have abundant resources, the sexes no longer DEPEND on each other- and therefore you no longer have a NEED for procreation. in our society, women no longer NEED men for what they do best. which is why women earn more money now and get all the college degrees while the men go off and play video games. do the math- American society has maybe 1 or 2 more generations before we completely collapse. the problem is WAAAAAY bigger than you not having a date Friday night.

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    • Desires are transformed when humans are transformed. Its important to notify everyone's responsibility at dating a bad girl/boy. Unsaved hearts have self destructing tendencies that are more inclined towards mudd and secularism than the heavens... .

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      Everything was good but then you started the feminist ideology towards the end by stating that men are going to go off and play their video games, while women make money. Women only make money because Daddy paid for their college. Trust me... these college grads are no more than the secretaries of yester year. Problem is that Mr. Goodbar is not around in the office as they are hoping. Yes I said it, Mr Goodbar! They are still looking for the man to pay their bills. WOMEN CANNOT WORK TILL THEIR MID 60's or 70's !! WAKE UP!! Women fall apart in their 30's already. Everything gets to them. The booze, the stress, the drama, the diet, everything! Men can go a long time and get their asses kicked daily. Women cannot!! So once these women that are out there right now in this weirdo workforce of unproductive females and they hit 50 years old with no man and no kids maybe they will re think it all and start preaching something else rather than feminism!

  • lol fam if dudes wanna go MGTOW and gurls wanna go WGTOW then fuckin let em, who cares. Its their life.

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    • And then humanity will go NO-TOW cause it will exist no more. well... environmentalists won't complain at least.

    • lol babies won't stop being born, people's stupidity and their hormone induced urges won't allow for it.

    • "babies won't stop being born, people's stupidity and their hormone induced urges won't allow for it."

      https://i.imgur.com/b3AHAAg.gif

      Truly Indeed. Well said.
      Then we have those fanatical natalists shaming childfree members for not reproducing in this already overpopulated world, whereas the population count keeps skyrocketing for the worse.
      But that's a different story.

  • *Yawn* what's for dinner? I am not bored or anything, just hungry.

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  • Yeah, this is a good plan. If your plan was to unite both parties as a singular entity against annoying people that try to force religion into every crack they can find.

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    • Religion is the opium of the masses in Marx's words, christian spirituality is just Life. no need for spices or sugar coatings. its more of carrying a cross than a bonus. the bonuses are mostly internal.

  • You said the right words. Its been a while I've been thinking that feminism is a load of crap but didn't spoke out becoz all will think im being sexiest.
    The problem is not with the opposite gender, but all who think that you deserve less or who wants to degrade you. We should blame them rather than blaming other innocent who are also prey of suvh predators.

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  • I do like your point of view. Too many narcissists whom victimize themselves instead of trying to be proactive and fix themselves, they blame others whom are different from them.

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    • Yeah we all kinda fall in that category. All forms of human seperation begin from our state of heart.

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    • ''you can't point fingers all you want''

      ''empathize and really show love to women, women wouldn't react the way they do. I know, because men just want to have sex, play video games.''

      you are self projecting

    • and im not blaming you for the way I react like you do to men. people have bad experiences where we have others nagging us telling us what men need to do right and not take their own responsibility.

  • Nice take

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  • I wanted to respectfully say this is a good Take. However, when people on Team Jesus stop judging me from their high horse for the way I live my life, I might be more open to this kind of a proposal.

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    • Well it applies to everyone. And i'm no exception. Society is unecessarily complicated because I make it be. as all of us do.

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    • @Djaaay Not only its personal, things like virtue and sin are all completely revealable things. Not something you just logically understand. Thats why you can't talk about sinning to secular people. They have no concept of it, they see secular behaviors and they seem neutral to them if not virtuous. You have to get in the life of grace TO BEGiN UNDERSTANDING why something is sinful or what true virtue is. God is something like a Sun. His rays of purity 1) make you progressively realise your own sinfulness and imperfection 2) set a whole new bar of what good truly means. its nothing like the lukewarm "be good to everyone" that society says... .

    • SIN , is anything that interrupte's or distracts me from my assignment that God has given me to do in his name. You must genuinely and completely give yourself and your dead spirit to the Lord to be transformed into a new spirit and being. Thats called being ; born again in a new transformative spirit and saved soul. Untill you do this , non-believers will never be able to understand the scriptures and will undoubtedly find the Bible to contradict itself.

  • Sure I'll go with this

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