My View on Cucks - They Have Issues

[ChronicThinker]

Hi. I’m about to piss everyone off again. Let me just say: do whatever you want sexually and in your relationship. I can’t stop you, and if you’re going to complain that I’m shaming people or whatever, my advice is to just not read this article. If you take the time to read it, it’s your own fault if your feelings get hurt, because I warned you.

This mytake was requested by a user I actually like who wanted my opinion on the subject, so here it is.

Cucks – they’re plaguing the internet like a shitty fashion trend. If you don't know what a cuck is, a cuck is a guy who derives pleasure from watching another man fuck his wife while she humiliates him.

Every day I see these people asking creepy-ass cuckolding questions and getting pissed off when people aren’t into it. It’s baffling. We live in an age where men and women are becoming pussier and pussier by the second, and someone has to say something about it.

If any of you saw my question Do you think some fetishes could be related to mental illnesses or issues? Then you’ll know where I stand. Cuckolding fetishes are one of the many I believe to be related to having screws loose in your brain.

I don’t care if it’s not PC to say: it’s not fucking normal to want to see your wife plowed by a “BBC” while she humiliates you and makes you lick up another man’s seed. Sorry to break it to you.

Nothing in our basic biological makeup warrants cuckolding to make an iota of sense. I get we aren’t cave people anymore, but we have base instincts – and those instincts tend to make us protective over our mate, with no desire to have them stolen by another. It makes even less sense biologically when cucks take it to the extreme of having some other guy impregnate their woman; your basic biology should be screaming at you that this is NOT NORMAL and you need to SPREAD YOUR OWN SEED.

This is why the only sense I can make of this fetish is something really wrong is going on in cuck’s or lady-cucks heads. Sure, you can argue:

“Oh Jane, don’t be so harsh, fetishes are just fetishes."

Well, some people have fetishes for fantasizing about torturing and eating folks or having sex with fucking donkeys. I don’t have to be cool with that, or cuckolding.

There’s having a fetish and then plain and simply not respecting yourself, your relationship, and your woman. I’m sorry, but you can’t watch another man out-pleasure you via your own fucking wife or girlfriend and have self-respect. This just screams: “My mother didn’t love me enough as a child so I formed an unhealthy fetish surrounding it!”

The reason I have such an issue with cuckolding is for exactly that: the lack of respect. If you respect yourself, the last thing you’ll find pleasure in is being disrespected and humiliated by your partner while they fuck someone else. As well, if you respect your partner, you’re not going to push them onto someone else’s bed to be a display item for you to get off to. Like I said: there are fetishes, and then there’s just plain having fucking ISSUES.

As a woman who places so much value on respect, I would feel disgusted and completely disrespected if my man told me he wanted another man to fuck me. Apparently, it's "for my pleasure," yet they're the ones who need to see me essentially used like a tool for their own means of getting off. It isn't really worshiping your woman then, is it?

Also, I hate to pull out the race card, but can we stop and address how SOME cucks specifically fetishize black men? Like, you can’t be sexually fulfilled unless you see this black man with a horse dick plow your wife and verbally put you down for being a snowflake. Totally normal dude, definitely not a sign of some deep-seeded issue.

At the end of the day, you can do what you want. But after being bombarded by all of this cuckolding bullshit, I had to put my opinion on the subject out there.

If it hurt your feelings and made you feel shamed as a proud cuck: you’re welcome, because that’s apparently what turns your crank anyway.

~ Love Jane.

[bethshepherd]

Thank you so much. I totally agree with you, I believe that a cuck is sick, he has no respect for himself or his woman. I get men come to me for therapy and psychic tarot readings tell me their wives refuse to make them happy by sleeping around. Well good for the wife, why should she? If she wants to sleep around she can get rid of husband and become a well paid prostitute living on her own, picking and choosing who, when where and all the rest to suit her. She would no longer need a husband or any guy to help her find men, they would be queueing up. Of course the guys who go with wives of a cuck are just after free sex and put up with the bit about the husband wanting to hear about it and watch it to save money on paying a normal pro. I know I have heard it all from so many male and female clients. It is pathetic. And any woman who stays with such a man needs her head examined. A wife of a successful cuck is just the same as a prostitute only with less control and no money in return. But I also know of guys who go online and try to talk about it with any woman who will listen (USUALLY IT IS A GAY MAN PRETENDING T BE A FEMALE BUT HE IS NOT BRIGHT ENOUGH TO GET THAT) about his so called cuck old life, which is really just a fantasy that never happens. They preen about their wife did this and that when it never happened, because not many women would let that happen. The whole thing is sick and selfish and short sighted as eventually the wife would grow to hate him and he cannot see that.

[lilaqua]

I actually see it as pretty normal. Unlike what is commonly asserted, both men and women fall on the side of submissive in terms of BDSM, it's pretty accepted that a woman could be sexually submissive but not a man. To be cuckholding, like fem dom is just another side of the same male submissive coin. Submission within the bedroom actually comes from the lifestyle that we have, with those who feel restricted by the amount of decisions to make in their life more likely to be submissive, which for a lot of men makes sense.

[Benedek38]

The problem is that submissiveness is programmed into women to a certain extent. It is somewhat "natural". Submissiveness in men is not. I have never seen a submissive men who looked or behaved normal. They all look and behave like they have some kind of issue.

[lilaqua]

@Benedek38 I'd be careful how you say that, we're very sexually diverse creatures and the idea of "natural" covers a lot of bases. The whole female sub male dom thing is not coded into our sexuality. You'd be really surprised who is and isn't a submissive. I find that guys who are submissive generally have more high powered jobs, better adjusted and actually tend to be very "alpha male". Doms on the other hand are generally the opposite. I feel like you can't as a presumably straight male who's never had sex with a man know what a guy's persuasion is and I also think you're getting personality and sexuality confused.

[Benedek38]

" I find that guys who are submissive generally have more high powered jobs, better adjusted and actually tend to be very "alpha male". Doms on the other hand are generally the opposite." No offense, but I have doubts about you having this in-depth experience. Your profile says you are 18. "I'd be careful how you say that, we're very sexually diverse creatures and the idea of "natural" covers a lot of bases." Well, unlike what you said, this IS actually hard-coded. There is a level of rivalry between both sexes, but generally males are more aggressive and dominant in pretty much any primate species, and most social mammals. And my exact point was that sexual deviancies that don't conform to nature tend to be the results of issues in nurture, and can point to an individual having deep rooted personality flaws derived from his/her upbringing or environment.

[lilaqua]

@Benedek38 That's personality NOT sexuality they are not the same thing. A "Dominant" man is not necessarily dominant in bed. The most dominant man in bed I've ever been with is also simultaneously the most metrosexual and "feminine" vice versa for the most submissive, so these things don't really have a clear correlation. Sexuality in humans is not as easily pinned down as most animal species, we also have the most in common with aa species with a dominant female hierarchy, so I wouldn't make any assumptions. It's interesting to know that people who are interested in fetish are more likely to be mentally healthy than those who don't.

[Benedek38]

"A "Dominant" man is not necessarily dominant in bed." THIS IS MY POINT! That in my opinion, he IS, or SHOULD BE, and if that's not the case, that is the result of negative effects in his upbringing. "The most dominant man in bed I've ever been with is also simultaneously the most metrosexual and "feminine" vice versa for the most submissive, so these things don't really have a clear correlation." Don't bring metrosexuality into this - in my experience, metrosexuals tend to be just as masculine in behaviour, they just suppress it. I had the privilege of sparring with a metrosexual black belt karate master (he was 22, I was 16, so there was substantial weight and size difference). He got a bit "loose" and chipped one of my tooth. Granted, I let my guard down, but still. Dying your hair and wearing mascara doesn't say anything about how masculine or dominant you behave.

[lilaqua]

@Benedek38 Like I mean quite feminine, to the point he is just considered gay constantly and has rather feminine interests.

[Benedek38]

"Sexuality in humans is not as easily pinned down as most animal species" Says you. But animals have sexual deviancies too. Still, there is always a trend. Did you know that there is a documented case where a male gorilla, after being alone all his life, without a mate, was let out into the wild - and possibly as an expression of his resentment, he murdered female gorillas? Sounds awfully familiar to Elliot Rodgers, isn't it? We aren't that special, don't be delusional. We are smart. But not smart enough to overcome our own nature. "we also have the most in common with aa species with a dominant female hierarchy, " What? Chimps are our closest relatives, and they live in troops lead by a select few alpha males with loosely defined hierarchy. "we also have the most in common with aa species with a dominant female hierarchy." Citation needed.

[Benedek38]

As I said, in my experience, metrosexuals tend to be mentally unstable people who can easily become aggressive and overenthusiastically masculine.

[lilaqua]

@Benedek38 Elliott Rodgers and that gorilla thing are a mental illness not a sexual deviancy
www.huffingtonpost.com.au/.../bdsm-better-mental-health-study_n_3390676

Also you might not want to forget this special species of chimp who is our closest relative, equal to the common chimpanzee. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo

[Benedek38]

"Elliott Rodgers and that gorilla thing are a mental illness not a sexual deviancy" My point is that submissive men are also mentally, or physically ill. And sorry, linking the huffington post for ANYTHING other than laughs at this point is ridiculous. They are a joke. The amount of bullshit they pump out could fill the Mariana trench in a week. As for bonobos are an interesting bunch - too bad they are an antithesis of human nature. Think about this - we have a pretty long history behind us. We have recorded history going back 5000 years, with countless civilizations, so we have a pretty good idea how humans tend to behave when left to their own devices. Let's see the common things: 1 - patriarchal societies as opposed to bonobos. 2 - permanent mono- or polygamous bonds, as opposed to bonobos. 3 - humans are INCREDIBLY aggressive as opposed to bonobos. 4 - society tends to be split by sexes as opposed to bonobos. Want to guess how many of these are true for chimps? 4.

[lilaqua]

@Benedek38 you look at it that way. The fact that they have homosexual relationships, sex for pleasure, the ability for empathy and have a similar child rearing style to early humans (raised by the community vs one or two people). You’re cherry picking and if you can’t see the simularities. And as close relatives how can you argue that chimps are relevant but bonobos are not.

[Benedek38]

"The fact that they have homosexual relationships, sex for pleasure, the ability for empathy and have a similar child rearing style to early humans" That's bollocks. Every ape species performs sex for pleasure Empathy exists in every ape species. Humans were never explicitly homosexual, it was always quite rare, and sodomy was a taboo in most societies. "similar child rearing style to early humans" "The mother–son bond often stays strong and continues throughout life." <-Wikipedia WE LITERALLY SHAME PEOPLE WITH MOMMY ISSUES! We DEFINITELY don't live in a society that promotes mother-son bonds. And what do you mean "raised by the community vs one or two people"? We raise our children in a community! We even created kindergartens. Mothers bring their kids to the playground to play with each other. We DO raise our children in communities. Only the most basic needs are fulfilled by the parents under normal circumstances.

[Benedek38]

"You’re cherry picking" No I am not. I just pointed out how wrong you were. The fact is that we have a lot more common with chimps in behaviour than bonobos. "And as close relatives how can you argue that chimps are relevant but bonobos are not. " 1) Because chimps societies are closer in structure and customs than bonobo societies to humans. 2) Because research into bonobos was mostly done in captivity, and it was observed that this obstructs and alters social structures. Essentially, research into bonobos are questionable at best.

[wannabecuckold]

Great response!!

[ThatPersonOverThere]

Turns your crank eh? I think in this situation the phrase "Whatever creams your Twinkie" would be better 😂

What are your thoughts on men who through whatever accident or illness, are literally unable to sexually please their wives?

Also the origin of Cuck is derived from the Cuckoo bird which lays its eggs in another birds nest and essentially tricks others into raising its offspring.

So with that in mind, what are your views on men who are willing to raise another man's child in order to be with the mother? You love who you love, but that does fall closer to what an actual cuck would be if the meaning hadn't changed.

[ChronicThinker]

I don't think much of them, because it's so unlikely that anyone is so disabled they couldn't do ANYTHING for their wives. Even if that was the case, a good wife would put up with it. A man raising someone else's kids? That's fine. What isn't fine in my head is a guy who wants his wife to purposely be impregnated by someone else to fulfill a fetish.

[Cosytoasty]

The relationship in general has to be very unhealthy dysfunctional to even reach this stage. Ironically, its the mgtow lot and the woman haters that probably fantasise about this the most.

[ChronicThinker]

Every time I see mgtow I shiver lmao.

[Shameless_warrior]

Mgtow dont hate women at all, you got it all wrong, i am mgtow monk, which simply means i do not want to get married or fall into the marrage trap because when divorce comes around guys for fact get financially raped in court, so why bother specially in 2019 when our culture has turned into the social media culture were loyality and honor are non existent

[AlphaMale1]

The article is missing a major part of this. What if the couple are swingers? What if it were her idea in the first place? Does this include the woman wanting to live out her MMF threesome fantasy?

Some women really love cocks and sex. I have known two of them and hope to know at least one more before it's over.

I have never done the thing where some guy comes over and fucks my wife or SO while I simply watch. If it is what she wants to do then I am getting into it, too. And I know this is not for everyone. However, there are a lot of middle aged people doing stuff like this to do something other than the same thing they have done thousands of times either together or with others in their past.

If they find it erotic and both agree and protection is used from beginning to end then I see no problem with it. They could be doing other things that are not even cool. And in the end it is their business.

[loganj]

I keep hearing about this and I still find it hard to believe any man is going to lick "the seed" of another man from his wife. I think some men do want to see their wife with another man but that is usually if he has ED and it seems most want her with a black man too. I find this on a topix forum a lot-not sure if this is mostly fantasy or if it really goes on much

[Billlewis]

I've been fortunate enough to have the privilege of licking several women clean after they'd been fucked, and I can honestly say that there's nothing I've enjoyed more in my entire lifetime.

[englisc]

Yeah, I agree. I've said the same things before but you said it better. I think there are other reasons for them doing this also.

Those kinds of guys are usually pretty weak and passive in day to day life, and they usually have insecurities when it comes to sexual inadequacy, masculinity, penis size, being cheated on etc.

I think that they fetishise this to deal with those issues. For example if they don't think they can satify their woman and they're afraid she might cheat and leavethen, in their minds if they can encourage their wife to do that while staying with them and somehow can gain pleasure from it, then they have some kind of control over it and therefore don't worry about it as much because it excites them instead.

As for masculinity, these men usually like to mock men who consider themselves masculine or the idea of masculinie, usually because they themselves don't or can't fit the standards that make a man masculine. But deep down while they mock it and make claims for example that a man can still be masculine even if he allows his woman to dominate him, they know that women prefer masculine men in general. That's why they choose a muscular guy with a bigger dick - who is "more of a man" than they are, and they get off on the humiliation of that - again, to deal woth insecurity surrounding that.

Lastly many of those men have also grown up watching porn - masturbating to videos of other man banging the girls they want to bang. I think that in many of them this causes them to associate being turned on with watching rather than participating - watching his wife get fucked becomes like a live porn vid.

But yeah, none of that is natural and makes absolutely no sense.

[Wally48]

Your observations are consistent with the reading I've done on this "lifestyle." Seems like the majority of hotwives are pushed into it by the hubby. Sometimes pushed very hard over many years. They usually start without the hubby present, then a spectator, then a submissive participant, and from there a downward spiral of humiliation. And I gotta say, depending on the downward limits of the cucks self esteem, it can get pretty damn degrading. I read of a bred, gestating hotwife telling her hubby "You worthless cuck, you're going to support my lovers baby, raise my lovers baby, and when he's old enough I'm gonna teach him to fuck you in the ass, just like his real daddy does!" Her hubby is locked in a cock cage, wears ladies undies as he cleans the house and grooms his wife for her date with her bull. SO fucked up... On the other side what's a 65 yo guy to do when his dick no longer works, and his wife still has a strong libido? End the marriage or give her a pass? Is he a cuck?

[brennanhuff]

I don't get it. But you said self respect and humiliation and how you don't understand it. I don't get it, but it's not something uniquely related to just cockolding. That stuff can be related to BDSM stuff. There are submissive men who don't cuckold, but a part of submission for some men is to be humiliated, demeaned, degraded, and sub servient to their female domme. So that aspect can show in different forms with sex and not cuckold stuff...

[Cyber_Ghost]

I dig what you are saying here and agree completely. There is something seriously wrong with anyone who gets enjoyment out of watching another man do his wife... and then even worse, go down on her afterwards. I never understood that and it sickens me to even think about it. Personally, if I walked in on another man plowing my wife, I honestly think I would be getting a one way ticket to prison... or worse. I myself have my own strange fetishes, but they do not include anything that would ever allow another man laying with any woman that I am with. I would flip my switch and snatch a dude up real f***ing quick.

You and I have disagreed on another thread... but even with that disagreement, I cannot disagree here... this mirrors my thoughts to a T. I think you have hit this spot on. There is for sure some serious issues going on in the mind of a man who allows this. His basic survival instinct is simply gone.

Very well written. Good work and thanks for bringing this in to the light.

[Natalie11299]

I agree with this!!!

[BS123456]

The ideology behind this fetish is not much different than any other fetish. The cuck derives pleasure from humiliation which might stem back to childhood. I have studied this fetish to understand why and when this began and learned the BBC thing increases the humiliation as that individual who is pleasured by this believes being dominated by what society deems as a lower race of people will further decline his manhood.
This feeling of self-worthlessness can possibly be contributed to a single mother who continually humiliated him and therefore he believes that he is in some way worthless and is only good for others to humiliate. Other fetishes can also be contributed to childhood such as the female who searches for a father figure to love her maybe due to the lack of a father figure or the S&M who was beaten as a child and now feels only pleasure from being beat. You are correct in implying a sort of mental illness involved and until this is addressed the trend will continue. I believe the rise of such a fetish is in large part due to the feminist movement which in turn created so many fatherless homes where the boy child was humiliated by the mother and his sisters who were raised as feminists. Without a father figure a boy child can never develop into the man he should. The feminists now have what they desired, an obedient male. The next phase to derive from this will be the male who believes he must be castrated and maybe again because his single mother might have belittled him so often while saying something like, " Why couldn't you be a girl?" I'm not saying this is exactly the case but rather offering a point of junction for a beginning. Think back 50 years before this feminist movement and understand this fetish seldom existed.

[Benedek38]

You say some pretty wild things. I agree with you on the general trend and the reasons behind it, but watch out for slippery slopes :-)

[snofall]

Nothing wrong with it.
I never knew the cuck fetish was limited to a black man and a white couple.
I thought it was any couple and any third party.
Humans vary in nature. Unsurprising.

[Red_Arrow]

I think you are right about any couple and any third party (male).

[EstevanMadrid898]

It's not just limited to any specific race 🤣

[Sum1Else]

I want to be in a relationship with a girl I will never have sex with, and she does this to/for/with me...

[jen_phils]

So I can kinda sort agree with this. My now recently divorced ex-husband was never really a "cuck" but he did have this fetish where you wanted me to make fun of his penis. I know for a fact that it hurt his ego something terribly and it was a contributing factor to our divorce. Obviously there was more factors to it, but I can see it as a turning point in our relationship and never should have given in to making fun of him.

[Sum1Else]

I get it, bc I enjoyed when my ex would make fun of mine. didn't even know it was a thing, and i thought i was above avg but when she made the cooments about her ex and his size and that mine wasn't sufficient, id turned hot red and enjoyed it...

[Billlewis]

Wow... tell us how you really feel :)

[Billlewis]

Of course we have issues, but a woman who doesn't mind that can enjoy a very satisfying relationship with a cuckold, especially if he enjoys being kept celibate while she enjoys the freedom to date other guys whenever she wants.

[PhilBurt]

Alrighty then

[levantine99]

just because it annoys you doesn't mean its wrong. if the woman is into it who cares.

[Blue55]

I completely agree with every word you wrote. 👍
I really feel disgusted of those people who are into this shit. it's disgusting and they must be shamed.

I found this psychological website which is talking about sex fetishism and especially the cuckold thing:

https://howtostopbeingacuckold. com/cuckold-psychology/

[QueenofCups]

I couldn't fucking agree more.

[HungLikeAHorsefly]

So, let me get this straight... you're definitely anti-Donkey Fucking?

[Mrkittyboy]

And vore

[acooke-13]

The trend is just simply disgusting and defiantly should not be a trend

[CarpetDenim]

This is literally the single best article of any subject I’ve ever read in my entire life.

[VOLcel]

This is literally the worst opinion I've ever read.

[Benedek38]

We might not agree on a lot of things, but I'm with you. Cucks just give me the creeps. I just want to grab them and slap some sense into them. Respect yourself, man!

Anyway, there is one thing I don't agree with:
"This just screams: “My mother didn’t love me enough as a child so I formed an unhealthy fetish surrounding it!”"
A lot of things can be blamed on mommy issues, but I believe this has nothing to do with it. I have my own ideas as to what has caused this insurgence, but this is definitely a new phenomenon, and I don't see any logical connection between mommy issues and cuckolding.
I am open to discussion about my theories, with the added risk of violent disagreement. My views/ideas could be considered controversial, so if you don't like that (whoever you are), don't ask, I am not looking to make enemies.

[Mrkittyboy]

This is a new phenomenon you say and yet you somehow don't see the connection to mommy issues? How about; for the first time in human history women are free to, nigh on expected to, become the bead winners for the family? Women are getting all the degrees and holding all the student debt. You don't see how maybe they simply don't have the time for their children?

[Benedek38]

@Mrkittyboy By new phenomenon, I am saying that it became a trend literally in the last year or two. Sure it existed before, but there was a definite upsurge of it in the last year. There is no fucking way a shitton of people JUST realised they have mommy issues. Maybe it contributes, maybe it doesn't, but I have a totally different theory as to what could cause this mindfuckery to spread so rapidly. And I am not saying people don't have mommy issues - they do. I am saying that it simply doesn't imply cuckolding. Mommy issues typically manifest in seeking for a woman who is a sexual partner and a mother figure at the same time. Cuckolds don't see their women as mother figures. If you are interested in my theory, feel free to ask. I won't waste my time on typing if nobody is interested though.

[Celtero]

Yay, finally a woman who doesn't support that shit!

[cherryphi82]

"Nothing in our basic biological makeup warrants cuckolding to make an iota of sense."

Yes, yet ridiculously, many of the guys into that kind of thing subscribe to evolutionary theory and the "alpha/beta male" crap. Insanity knows no bounds.