*sigh* Sometimes I wish I was gay!

[Anonymous]

Dating these days feels very unjust. But both genders say so.

Relationships are a normal desire in humans. But sometimes things are out of reach or are seemingly not even meant to be.

I am not going to repeat after Elliot Rodger or the incel members. However it will be difficult to do so without looking like one and there is no easy way of putting this here. So approach this article with a rather open mind. Thank you in advance.

I love women. I am thankful that they are on earth and that we coexist usually in peace. Many women are beautiful and kind and have a soothing voice and a soft, pleasant skin and all that and pretty much the opposite of what we men are.

Dating them however proves to be a challenge.

You could be that guy, who got rejected and rejection after rejection you wonder if there's something wrong with you. Are you ugly? Too rough? Too nice? Do your clothes smell weird? Did you say something wrong?

Or whether women even want relationships in general.

Or that suddenly they became robots.

Or that they turned lesbian.

Or anything in general, really.

On the other hand there are some ridiculous standards that quite some women have.

Who cares about personality when you can demand standards, that most men can't fit in even if they wanted to? Tall like a tree, strong like a hulk, wealthy like a businessman and even specific zodiac signs!!! Yes, you heard that right! ZODIAC SIGNS!!!

I won't settle for anything less. I deserve the best!

This is also one of the (leading?) reasons of the decline in relationships. I'm not blaming anyone but the increase in this philosophy being the decline in relationships is a fact. And facts do not care how you view, accept or decline them.

The knight in shining armor may very well not exist at all. They were for the most parts filmed in scripted movies. This is no different from certain men taking porn as an example of what their expectations in sex will be.

Make no mistake as it is not a secret. Rich men get the honeybees with little effort while we - the others - hardly get anything at maximum effort. It can be observed over and over again. Is that really the most reliable way to do it?

Finding matches on POF, Badoo, HotOrNot has not yielded results for me or my pals.

Homosexuals

I do wonder how successful dating for homosexuals actually is on the contrary of traditional heterosexual couples.

If I was gay I could go and try grindr so I could see it for myself. But I also don't want to set up a show either because... well I'm simply not gay! I also do not know anyone, who is either gay or bisexual.

Girlfriend?

I would really love to believe in that and finding love but it became somewhat similar to believing in Santa Claus.

It seems too good to be true. A loving woman always being by my side and exchanging affections with me within my arms reach!

The lonely nights

We can't be the only ones dealing with the lonely nights. Or can we?

The bed and the pillows are the only soft things I come into physical contact with when going to sleep. And if daydreams of being romantic and intimate with a nice lady won't drive me to insomnia due to the lack of such experiences, then the recurring depressions will.

Again, women are beautiful and nice and all that and I would really look forward of having one by my side. I'd treat her like a queen because I want to be treated like a king.

But at times like these I do wish almost dearly this feeling to fade away and to become gay instead. Then at least I wouldn't deal with the missing part of my love life and can continue living happy - much like children not missing a boyfriend or a girlfriend when they are in elementary school. I can physically feel the expiration at the expense of my own health.

Thanks for reading!

Note: I do not know why GAG forces this topic into Sexuality when it's clearly about Dating.

[RSong]

I completely understand what you're saying. I feel that way a lot, too. I have often joked about becoming a nun or wishing I were gay instead because finding anyone who wants a serious relationship is akin to searching for a needle in a hay stack. Being in a serious relationship means that both people have to face certain truths about themselves and learn to adapt together.
I have found that when the going gets tough, most people would rather bail then try and fight for the love and companionship they wanted so badly.
Thinking about all of that reminds me of a line from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, "The hardest thing to do in this world is to live in it. Be brave"
There is a certain fear concerning intimacy and vulnerability and most choose not to face that fear because they do not view the reward greater than the risk, which is truly sad.

[Ellie-V]

Umm 😐 if you believe gay people (specifically men) somehow have it easier, you’ve got another thing coming bro.

Other than that, sorry about your troubles. Don’t give up.

[Someguynamedbob]

Naw I’m bi and dating men is way way way easier, but being gay comes with other challenges like being accepted in society, but comparing ease of getting dates and meeting compatible people being gay is like putting it on easy mode, women are complicated

[Ellie-V]

Okay

[Wowgirl30q]

@Ellie-V
Wtf is he talking about?

[Ellie-V]

His personal experience.
But there are so many other gay men who struggle with dating, mainly because of identity issues and promiscuity

[DonCachondo]

Gay is easier in the short-term but harder in long-term because short-term is about sexual attraction and long-term involves integration of social conventions, which are not so well-defined for gays.

[es20490446e]

I tried dating men. Way easier. The problem was... I'm not actually gay.

[DonCachondo]

@es20490446e This may be the right page for you!

[Jaysonava]

@Someguynamedbob And highly demanding

[Jaysonava]

@es20490446e Yeah me too hahahaha. I thought I was gay one year cause I was having problems with women. I found all of them I was meeting just really demanding and acutely annoying.

[es20490446e]

@Jaysonava Yeap.

[Wolframium]

*sigh* Sometimes I wish I was asexual. Without emotions and caring.
Lol. Sometimes. :-D Can you just imagine, how easier it all would be?
Lonely? Who cares? :-) No girlfriend and ugly AF? Who cares? :-) It doesn't matter. It has the same value as random rock to me.
I wish…

[myTake Owner]

You and me both!
I remember being in Kindergarten and in Elementary school. Girls were literally invisible to me and out of my mind and I was not missing anything from them.

[myTake Owner]

Well, not literally but figuratively 😂

[Tdieseler]

you dont have to be asexual for that honey.. im hetero... love women and their bodies... but no emotions n caring lol

[Wowgirl30q]

@Tdieseler shame it is

[Wowgirl30q]

Your such a cool dude

[Wolframium]

Yeah, cool, but I don't want to love them or their bodies. What I want is full control over this, and to love those who deserve it. Not just attention seekers and similar.

[Wowgirl30q]

Okay

[DonCachondo]

I don't think it's that simple. I imagine asexuality being more like you have a sex drive but just aren't attracted to anyone. Imagine it's like living on Planet of the Apes or something lol but I think asexuality varies too

[derek2017]

@DonCachondo Try nofap after 30 days it works!(although its like hell getting to 30 days!) you flatline for about 30 days (flatline means you have no desire for women)

[DonCachondo]

@derek2017 I was so sexually repressed by my church at a young age I didn't even start masturbating until I was 15. That's a lot more than 30 days of not masturbating when I more than well could've, and let me tell you there was no "flatline" for me! I could never keep the thought of naked women out of my head for a fraction of the day and couldn't help but lust for girls at my school who were... "developing." Wanna know why I eventually started masturbating? Because I was so backed up that I started getting turned on by ordinary, everyday sensations and actually getting orgasms w/ ejaculation from them. Thankfully, it never happened in public but I knew I couldn't allow it to continue after a certain point. I had a strong hunch it was because I was trying to deny and ignore one of my needs, and to this day that hunch has yet to be invalidated.

[derek2017]

@DonCachondo I actually discovered nofap when i was little without knowing what it was... I was bullied by some girls when i was in juniour high and i was disgusted by the idea of girls because i thought they were awful (most of them) and i still think that to some extent, i was disgusted to touch my D because i would always think of the girls that bullied me and i was about to vomit everytime i got an erection... so you think that someone not letting you fap is worse than not being able to fap?

[derek2017]

@DonCachondo I was sexually repressed too! didn't give that as an excuse!*

[NathanV]

Dating & relationships are ALWAYS tricky no matter your preferences! Even if you like ALLL genders, things are no less complicated! & often times when you give up looking, that's when people want you! (Sure is what happens with me anyway!) Hang in there! You are young!

[OlderAndWiser]

If women are so choosy and have such high and unrealistic standards, how is it that most of them eventually get married?

[myTake Owner]

Most of them get eventually married?
I suppose that has to do with their time running out and then lowering their standards in time. But how would I know?

[OlderAndWiser]

So you think that most guys who are 18-20 years old can't get a date?

[myTake Owner]

Well unless they're one of these rich kids or middle class children, which I am not. The girls seem to be mostly impressed by the superficial things.
If you mean with cougars and middle aged women, then I wouldn't know how to impress or attract them. I have just enough money in order to sustain myself. But for dates I don't have almost any leftovers. I am still finishing university.

[OlderAndWiser]

So who are all those college girls dating?

[myTake Owner]

I don't know most of them enough to tell who they are seeing but a good chunk of them go for those, who have quite more than they themselves have. They tend to be older and have a solid employment already. We call it hypergamy. They get almost showered with flowers and chocolates and gifts (cheap and expensive). They tend to entertain their girlfriends by spending on them on dates and things like that. At least on the surface level I can tell as a bystander.
I am working on my career to be able to afford the same. I can't say there is much progress but so far it's the best I can do for now.

Another chunk of them are either single by choice or using that as a way out of talking.

I don't blame them. They do what they do and I'm not to judge.

[OlderAndWiser]

There are plenty of girls who are not like what you described.

[myTake Owner]

Probably. Many of them must be taken however.

[OlderAndWiser]

If you are not having any luck dating, you should take a look at yourself and perhaps even ask someone for some feedback or help. Blaming everyone else is a dead end street.

I know what is it like being inexperienced and intimidated by the women around you. I started college at age 16 long before this concept of dual enrollment was big. I was THE youngest person on my campus, I was shy, and I can assure you that 19, 20, 21 year old girls do not want to date a 16 year old guy. I overcame all of that and feel very confident dating now. You can, too, but not unless you stop blaming others for your lack of success.

Of course there are some women as you describe them. However, most girls come from middle class families, they don't expect guys in college to have money, and a date might be nothing more than pizza and beer in the dorm room. Please don't react defensively but just think about what I have said.

[myTake Owner]

Wait. Where did you pick up that I am blaming others for my own shortcomings? I put that disclaimer right in my article.

[nightdrot]

Not being gay - though, very long story, I did have one gay relationship a long time ago - I am not sure that some of your assumptions would pan out. Indeed, based on suicide rates and other factors, gays do not necessarily have it better than do their hetero counterparts. It may be that you are less interested in being gay than in not wanting to be with women.

That said, and please know that my heart goes out to you, perhaps the problem is the way you approach relationships. This line stuck out: "I'd treat her like a queen because I want to be treated like a king."

Note that you don't want to treat the woman like a queen because she is who she is, but only because of what it will net for you. On any given day that may not matter, but over time that probably will lead to bad relationships - or no relationships.

In the former case, in the end, it will be about your needs. Yet love, by definition, is willing the good of the other as the other. Not for what it gets you - but for what it gives to the other person. It is - ideally - pure selfLESSness.

Now no human being ever attains that ideal, but the fact that what you can get out of a relationship is so prominent in your own formulation, suggests that you have a bit to go in that area. Approach a relationship with the idea of what you can give - not what you will get.

In the latter case, it is possible that the woman just does not get "the vibe" from you. They may like you, but listen to what you say when you talk with women in a more intimate way. Then remember that it is not what you want to say, but rather it is what you want the other person to hear.

Also, keep in mind that every man or woman carries there own baggage. They have their own fears and insecurities and needs and wants. To the extent that you read those and assuage those, you will improve the chances of establishing and having a strong relationship with a woman.

Truthfully, I write as a man who was badly hurt - I won't repeat the story here though I have elsewhere on this site - and met a woman who gave of herself to me. Who held me when I was hurting and I learned what real giving is.

Suffice to say, we have now lived together for 11 years - we don't want to be married - and she has given me three of the most beautiful little gifts that a woman can give to a man. Those three gifts run up when I come home and call me "Daddy." It is unconditional love.

Please don't take this as a criticism. You sound like a good man and you sound like many people in this world. Lonely and wanting to be loved. There is nothing wrong with that.

However, love is as much about the mind as the heart and we have to learn how to do it. This article smacks of a man who has much to give, but you have to learn how to give, because the other person needs to feel safe, too, and you have to know how to do that - deeply and sincerely. I know, because I was there.

Don't give up. Be patient and give it time. Pursue other interests and make yourself the whole man. Then keep your eyes open. There are no assurances in this life and happy endings are guaranteed only in fairy tales. However, as I can attest, they do happen.

Best wishes.

[myTake Owner]

Well, thanks for your input! I appreciate it.

In regards of treating her like a queen and wanting to be treated like a king. That is exactly what I meant if you can decipher it as "giving in a relationship" and "getting from a relationship". However I put more emphasis on what I can give than on what I can get. It makes sense. This is not putting a woman on a pedestal. It is putting both on the pedestal.

[nightdrot]

Well, I hear what you are saying - and I appreciate that it is a fine line. However, putting yourself on the pedestal with the other person - to follow the analogy - is still putting yourself head of the other person.

Think of it this way: In an ideal relationship, the other person puts you on the pedestal. No need in your case, though, you'll do it for the both of you.

Of course, I joke - slightly. However, it really does have to be about you focusing on the other person. If they reciprocate - magic! If not, then it is time to move on.

In fairness, you do say that you put more emphasis on what you can give - and that is all to the good. However, you really almost have to shut down what the other half of the formula. If it makes you happy to give to the other person - that is love. If you love the other person because they love you back - it is love, but of a lesser sort.

Love is all about the giving. Your reward being the other person's happiness.

[myTake Owner]

Makes sense to me!

[ObscuredBeyond]

It's a trap. It's never love, always usury, and it leads more often than not to psychosis and drug abuse. The whole "marriage" thing? Just a cover. And a desperate push to force society to accept your lie to yourself, so you won't feel as insecure about it yourself.

You cannot dishonor the vocational destiny of another's biology, and love them truly. Mutually exclusive actions. Therefore, turning gay solves nothing, even if it means you're less likely to face rejection for casual sex.

I have friends that are ex-gay, and will tell you that it's "not de wae." I've also lost friends who sold out to that movement, even knowing why it's built on lies and abominations, because they valued their popularity in the world more than their own soul.

A few of them admire that I stick to my convictions, and try to rescue the lost, even when they feel it's in vain. Others go full cutthroat, betraying their insecurity over their decision by acting not like a natural, healthy alternative that merely thinks me confused; but rather by acting like bank robbers desperate to get rid of me as though I were a snitch waiting to happen. Some of the latter have even stolen things from me and threatened me, further betraying just how far from normal their psychology is.

Now, to the point of modern dating in general: nobody wants to live for something higher than themselves anymore. And therefore, finding someone worthy of sharing a higher cause with ceases to be a thing. Instead, it's all about you. Not the cause, and not your would-be partner, just you.

And therefore, you are never happy with anyone that isn't just like you, or that can scratch some itch of yours to some degree of satisfaction. The net result is being set up for loneliness and disappointment.

When sex becomes the central goal, then you're even more doomed. Sex is supposed to be a tool to celebrate what's already there, not the thing to be celebrated itself. This backasswards modern mentality of sex being praised above all else means it's never good enough.

Get these priorities wrong, and you'll soon cloud your own judgment on every other issue, leading to poor judgment across the board. It may manifest differently between men and women, but the end result is our modern dating scene - screwed up in every possible way, and both sides are guilty.

[Larajeanfake]

I definitely thought about giving up. I practically have lol. Your analogy of comparing love to believing in Santa Clause is exactly how I feel. I've only been in one relationship and it was very traumatic. For my first one to be traumatic, I didn't even know how an actual relationship functioned because it was so toxic. But I haven't been in a relationship since and that was about 4 years ago. Nowadays I feel myself actually getting lonely and sad about being single. I used to not care. I get asked out but usually I dont like those guys and I'm starting to hate dating beause everything sounds forced like a job interview. I have plenty of gay and lesbian friends. It seems that the gay men are more promiscuous and some are kinda sneaky about it. But my lesbian friends aren't. They're more to themselves and just date one person from what I see. I also feel the older you are the harder it is to connect to people. I think people somewhat forget chemistry and that chemistry is hard to find, almost a rarity, really.

[Anonymous]

I've felt the same. From what I hear the internal dynamics of homosexual males in relationships is relatively good, much easier. There's also things like lower violence iin relationships than heterosexual relationships, the relationship is more stable, good things like that. Meanwhile lesbian relationships having higher rates of violence and such, so it doesn't really go both ways, but I digress.

Really the issues that homosexual guys face is external to the relationship, but I feel like I could handle people being a bit shitty toward me, especially if I had a partner to lean on. It's not like we don't get shit for being straight as it is. So often the feeling comes up where I feel like if I could just meet a nice boy then this would just make it all easy. Problem is that I don't find them attractive unfortunately. So there's no easy way out. Even entertaining the notion of bi-curiosity as a man is an issue for a solid minority of women. Approximately a third of women will not want anything romantic from a guy with any interest in men and another third say they would date and hook up with but wouldn't consider anything serious. So it doesn't seem worth it to me to bar yourself from 50%+ of the population of women despite their flaws and the roadblocks they set up. We should be critical of failings and try to repair gender relations. Things like high standards and toxic attitudes eed to be addressed.

[Anonymous]

Look I don't want to be rude cos I know this is your take but your age is 18-24, I don't think you need to worry too much yet. And at the risk of sounding like an ass, you have to have something to attract a female, not just wishes and good intentions. I'm not talking money or even looks, what I mean is you need to have a life that makes you into an attractive person, for example, would you be more interested in a girl that spends all her time thinking about relationships, watching TV and talking about guys and dating or a girl that has hobbies and activities and generally betters herself?

[es20490446e]

Shall I be worried?

[derek2017]

@es20490446e lmao!

[es20490446e]

@derek2017 ;)

[RolandCuthbert]

Dude, if you want to get better to at dating women, it is possible. You just have to come up with a strategy, then practice, practice, practice.

You guys feel like you are so cut off. That you are so alone and no one has been through what you are experiencing. The point is, you are not cut off and many of us have gone through the same things. There is a way out of this forest. But you have to be willing to open yourself up, become social and work at it.

Too many guys here think they can take some kind of pill and that would make everything better. It just doesn't work that way.

[HomoFuge]

I think it's even harder to be gay and find someone who wants a serious relationship. You have less options because more people are straight than gay and the people who you do know that are gay, often like to sleep around and don't want relationships.

I am struggling with the same issue. I've had lots of offers from men for sex but no one who wants a serious relationship with me. I try to just ignore it. If I am single, it means I have more time to focus on myself.

If women constantly reject you, maybe it's time to take a break from trying to date and focus on yourself. Constant rejections are not good for your confidence. Try to change things about yourself that you do not like.

[BrittBratt2416]

Homosexual men are extremely promiscuous and tend to have a lot partners under their belt. Their relationships do not last as long either. You choosing that lifestyle to avoid loneliness is not a good idea and will most likely making you even more lonely. Just focus on yourself and try bettering yourself as person, stop trying to force love into your life and let it happen naturally. Everyone faces rejection at some point in their life, it hurts but you can't let over come you to the point of giving up.

[NathanV]

That's an overgeneralization really!

[Wowgirl30q]

@NathanV that's statistics

[BrittBratt2416]

@NathanV It's not, we have evidence of this due to the 80's aids epidemic when tons of young to middle age gay men were dropping left and right due to the disease. The disease spread like wild fire among them cause gay men had tons of sexual partners that they couldn't even pinpoint when they actually got the virus. It was so bad that they had to close down gay bars were they often up hooked up. Yes, there were cases of the disease spreading due to sharing drug usage with needles and bad blood transfusions but with gay men it was mainly the cause of their lust and promiscuous lifestyle with one another. We still have gay men catching this disease to this vary day.

[Wowgirl30q]

Tell um girl

[NathanV]

That STILL does NOT say ALL gay men are like that!!! I happen to know several who met their partners pretty young & have been loyal to them ! Yeah there are cases where many have lots of partners, but you make it out as if they ALL do which is so overly untrue , that all it does is makes you seem like a homophobe!

[Wowgirl30q]

@NathanV medical statistics baby

[NathanV]

@Wowgirl30q I happen to know many gay guys who are VERY loyal to their partners! Yeah there are those that DO have many partners, but... not all! THUS... Over generalisation ! To TRY to claim "Statistics" simply makes you seem like a homophobe!

[NathanV]

So you are telling me ALL gay guys have multiple partners? I know many who are VERY loyal , thus proving you little theory wrong & making your statement nothing more than a baseless statement! Yeah , true SOME have many partners , but NOT ALL!!!

[Wowgirl30q]

@NathanV or in science or math or Psy or research.
Nice try numbers don't lie 2+2=4
I'm not arguing facts look it up
Or live your lie either way don't care.
Thanks

[NathanV]

@Wowgirl30q Again stupidly preaching homophobic thoughts while ignoring completely what I just wrote! I'm sorry you are uneducated! Maybe some day you will learn, but... I'm not holding my breath on that! :)

[Wowgirl30q]

@NathanV I didn't read what you wrote. To catty and bitchy for me I don't care sorry keep talking to yourself though

[Wowgirl30q]

Is V for vagina? Or did it just work out?

[BrittBratt2416]

@NathanV *eyeroll* I never said all gay men are like that, all i said was that we have proof that gay men tend have a lot of partners and were the ones to unfortunately catch the disease a lot faster than others. That's it.

[Wowgirl30q]

You were right dear

[InTimoreDei]

@NathanV Just because you met a couple of nice gay men doesn't mean the stats are wrong. And she didn't say "all".

[DonCachondo]

I agree with your conclusion that gay men are more promiscuous on average (JUST because more promiscuous sex is available to them, NOT because it's some part of "gay nature" or whatever), BUT I disagree with your AIDS argument because it has a one major bias: anal sex makes HIV orders of magnitude easier to transmit than vaginal sex (and forget oral sex--that's practically unheard of!). The HIV virus relies on blood-on-blood contact, as saliva denatures it and neither sex's genitals connect directly to the bloodstream from any point of outside contact, except through tissue damage such as an open wound.

[Katebfun]

Look there's some strange evolution going on here on a deeper level that no one understands! 1st off everyone is rejected don't take it personally. In today's society at least in America so many are lonely and frustrated over the dating scene, apps are a waste of time swiping and dead end conversations. No one talks on the phone any more. I've honestly met more men our in public on meetups or at a bar than dating apps. Your not alone in this, were all connected more so than the anaylitcal mind can comprehend. A relationship is not going to make you happy!! 🤣 nope when you fall in love it's an experience to transform and become a better person, to evolve and change. No rush only divine timing. We are all puppets on a string stuck in the waiting room for love. ❤

[scholastic_vibez]

I feel embarrassed somewhat to say it, but before my current relationship, sometimes I thought it would almost be easier to be gay because at least they have bars, and venues to go to. As a sapiosexual, I can be around a lot of beautiful women, but feel zero sexual attraction if none of them have an interest an an intellectual conversation. With European women, especially from France, central, Eastern Europe they appreciate art history, and philosophy subjects I studied at university. But, there aren’t bars for sapiosexuals, there isn’t a dating infrastructure for us in the U. S. really.

[Tdieseler]

"If you ugly in the straight world...10 times out of 10 you are ugly in the gay world" - (i forgot who quoted it, one of Katt Williams friends)

Dude... this Take pretty much encompasses EVERYTHING most men (boys) think when they are starting out. I remember a long time ago when i thought this way...
"I just want one to love"
"Id treat her like a queen"
blah muthafuckin blah... but nice guys always finished last and the jerks got first dibs...
so i became a jerk... and was that way for quite some time... now i just dont give a fuck. She's in or she's out.

YOUR problem sir is that you want to serve HER... she wants a MAN... and you are being a woman. You want her... Go Get Her. Thats pretty much as simple as i can put it.
Its just that for me... women just irritate me in general... but if i want em... best believe... im gonna get them.

Im just mad that you posted this anonymous. see... still hiding... rather than standing loud and proud.

[shi-shi]

You sound hella rapey just sayin

[Tdieseler]

@shi-shi i appreciate your opinion. I was only repeating what he said.

[shi-shi]

no, the stuff that was your own words

[Tdieseler]

@shi-shi what? that i said if you want her go get her? well... give it time. you'll understand eventually

[shi-shi]

"women just irritate me in general... but if i want em... best believe... im gonna get them."

red flag red flag dont be alone with this guy

[devilman666]

@shi-shi confidence in dating is now the equivalent of rape? What will be the equivalent of rape next?

[devilman666]

@shi-shi keep in mind that I have been sexually abused before you respond. That is not rapey, you just want to make him sound worse than he is because you disagree with him. It isn't even a red flag. You are essentially saying that whenever anyone is confident about sex they are being rapey, because anytime anyone is confident they will have sex then apparently they must be about to commit rape.

[shi-shi]

@devilman666 He sounds rapey/creepy. dont go all sjw on me ffs -_-

[devilman666]

You went all sjw first, just saying

[Tdieseler]

@devilman666 Did she just call you an SJW for siding with me? aren't SJW's the one who DONT side with the guy and everything the girl says/does is right?
Dude... this is not worth the effort. i already knew it wasn't worth the effort.

@shi-shi when i said i'll go get her... i didn't say it was by force. i meant being a player. i dont do that anymore. "red flag red flag dont be alone with this guy"... you have NO IDEA how many females feel comfortable with me... because i have one thing... i dont fucking lie... i tell my shit up front. and i appreciate when im told upfront as well.

so if i seem "rapey" to you... thats just ur inexperienced brain... I've had girls come home with me after a long night of drinking because they KNOW im not like that, dont do that. thats why i tried to cut this conversation off with... "thank you for your opinion"... every woman who knows me... knows i can be trusted... then you come off saying im rapey? lol... do you want me to call them in?

[shi-shi]

I called someone a name so this triggered guy comes in crying "HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT I AM A RAPE SURVIVOR AND A FEMINIST BLA BLA" ofc I'm gonna call him an SJW 😂😂

[Tdieseler]

@shi-shi you talking about me or devilman? or a whole nother post... and yea.. that tends to happen... i try not to use the word triggered because its real. some shit does hit home and people fire back... even saying shit they dont mean. You should know... females do that the worst.

[shi-shi]

Females do it the worst but here the only triggered people are two guys 🤔🤔🤔

[Tdieseler]

@shi-shi wow... you are vague as hell and im... well..."dont give a fuck" as hell lol... i'll listen if you just say the shit. i have way too much stuff on my mind to try and figure out ur puzzle.
you say 2 guys... only 2 guys on this post... and i dont see any triggered.

Just one little girl that thinks she knows it all and doesn't understand that there is such a thing as "elders"... all i know is..."you will learn"... we were both your age at some point.
i remember when i used to call 26 year olds "old people"... look at where i am now lol... dont have time to figure your puzzles honey... speak straight or dont speak at all.

[shi-shi]

Well at least devilman is triggered he was like borderline crying about it 😂
And yes you are old, and you don't understand simple sentences apparently 😑

[Tdieseler]

@shi-shi and you dont seem to understand communication... not communicating it and not receiving it either. but hey... i dont blame you. i blame your age.
because there is one thing that is going to happen inevitably... ur going to get older. Now you can whine, judge, pick... whatever you want... :) there will come a time where this "know it all" attitude you have... will come back to bite you in the ass.
I lived a nice life when i was 19-20... but you know what i say now? " if i could go back to my 19-20 self, i'd slap the shit out of em."...
So you go ahead and judge @devilman665... but he's got 7 more time on this shit planet than you and seen/been through more shit than you.

remember my words... cuz when you are around 25 and can't find nobody, or the ones you do just want to get between your legs... write this down :)

[Tdieseler]

ugh... old age... @devilman666 how the fuck did i hit "5"

[shi-shi]

Oh jeez this shit again, dumbass boomers who realize the only thing they have going for them is their age so they try to hold it over your head like they think it's s good thing 😂
You really know far far less than you think you do, I've met 14 year olds with more wisdom and maturity than you lmao

[Tdieseler]

@shi-shi glad you have. im sure they will be able to tell you what is going to happen in about 6 years. good luck. nice talking to you.
(lol... im damn near 30 and maturity is still a perspective... but this moron got it all figured at what? 16-17? yea... i dont need that.. i'll listen to my elders) move out of your parents house.. then come at me.

[shi-shi]

I can't move out of my dad's house because I need to look after him 😂 see that's more shit you think you know but you're again super ignorant lol

[Tdieseler]

@shi-shi im talking about relationships here boo... not ur current living situation. i dont know you... i dont assume to know you (plus i find it awesome that you care about your parents... i dont, their fault)
so please... dont assume mine. You are entitled to your opinion... i just speak experience.

[shi-shi]

I think I have better life experience than you do

[Tdieseler]

@shi-shi again... we are all entitled to our opinion. because im pretty sure you haven't lived in a big house you own... drove a luxury car (are you even old enough to drive?) ... and then lost it all because of being nice... just to do it all over again. and you haven't been to college neither... so no degree.. meanwhile i have 2... not counting assisting certificates.

Look.. this is not a dick measuring contest... i was 16-17 once... and i thought i knew it all too... now that im approaching 30... I've realized i didn't know shit back then. so believe me when i say im not trying to come at you... i guess i just see my old self in you. and i already said im slapping that fucker if i could travel back in time lol

[shi-shi]

Yeah well if you tried to slap me I'd slap you back but harder

[Tdieseler]

@shi-shi Yow... me likey. dont get me wrong... i love the fact that you are staunch in your opinion... but you dont leave wiggle room... i guess thats what you will get as you grow older.
I hope to meet you in another post honey.

[shi-shi]

You don't seem that bad for a rapey guy either

[Tdieseler]

@shi-shi but im still a "rapey" guy lol... and ur cute... and caring... so dont be calling people "rapey" makes you come off as a cunt.

[shi-shi]

I don't care if I seem like a cunt or a bitch because I am a bitch 💪

[Tdieseler]

@shi-shi and with that being said... you have my respect... own the shit. well.. I've gotta go beddy bye... got shit to do in a few.

[shi-shi]

Alright goodnight sleep well

[devilman666]

@shi-shi You didn't just call someone a name you slandered him as being a potential rapist even going so far as to be edgy and tell women not to spend time alone with him because he has the red flags of rape.

You played the boy who cried wolf and tried to use rape as a weapon to shame someone who was not guilty of rape. This hurts survivors by downplaying their suffering. If you had been raped then you wouldn't call people rapists without really good reason, rapists are monsters and that is an accusation that should be reserved for when it is true. To use it when there is no evidence shows that you only care about your own gain and will use victims of sexual assault to gain the moral high ground in an argument.

Yet you wonder why I am offended?

[shi-shi]

Shut up you triggered little sjw bitch. 😂

[devilman666]

@shi-shi you're just upset that I pointed out how offensive you were being, you clearly have no issue with people getting triggered (since you got triggered into calling a random guy rapey).

[devilman666]

You dont care about sexual assault or the victims of sexual assault, you just like that you can use sexual assault to slander people.

[devilman666]

Slander and harass people*

[shi-shi]

@devilman666 cry cry cry, make mountains out of molehills, you male feminists are all the same lmao

[Tdieseler]

@shi-shi male feminists? i thought those were SJW's... ugh... im so confused...

@devilman666 really? i wouldn't waste my breath sir. she's opinionated but not experienced... nothing you say will make her learn. Just gotta wait till she hits 25... when reality hits her like a dump truck. For now... side step. Do you know what a male feminist is?

[shi-shi]

No i just like bullying little nerds like him XD
He's like 7 years older than me but i bet i could still make him cry like a little boy

[devilman666]

@Tdieseler typically a white knight, a cuck who feels like giving into anything women/feminists say is the best answer, while trying to stand up for the poor defenseless feminists who just wanted to call random people rapists and dont understand why others are outraged.

[devilman666]

@shi-shi I mean, admitting you enioy bullying shows that you are immoral and not worth anyones time. You are simply a piece of shit and I have no need to attempt to act tough. Go ahead and believe whatever delusions you want about me.

[shi-shi]

@devilman666 bla bla bla keep virtue signalling you little bitch xD

[devilman666]

*insert meme* Watch out, we got a tough guy over here

[shi-shi]

@devilman666 hate to break it to you buckaroo but you're not funny

[Tdieseler]

@shi-shi and @devilman666 break it off... not on my fucking post ur not doing this shit...

shi.. i like you but truthfully you are young and inexperienced and if i wanted... i can spell ur whole current life.

Devil... ur starting to get the smarts... you ain't there... but i can smell at least one heartbreak when you actually put in effort.
thats a bad combo... and inexperienced bitch with a guy who wants but when through shit... the way i see it.. put your palms together and bow... it was a good argument.

[Wowgirl30q]

@shi-shi he's not and you shouldn't square off with grown men at 16. It's not a good habit. He's testing you and it's working

[Tdieseler]

@Wowgirl30q im sorry... i was in one of those moods that day... im sorry @shi-shi I bullied you about your inexperience... you have time to experience. Im sorry @devilman666 didn't mean to come at you... you say some true shit.. i love reading your posts...
Im usually down to earth on these matters but that day, i guess i was so down i was underground... but thats why wowgirl is there to call me out on that bullshit.

[Wowgirl30q]

Bed guys😉

[Wowgirl30q]

Bad lol

[Tdieseler]

@Wowgirl30q meh... i get em from time to time... break it down to the 9's rather than beat around the bush first.

[Wowgirl30q]

Release 😂

[devilman666]

@Tdieseler I didn't think you went after me. The only time you really said anything about me it was pretty much dead on.

Thanks by the way, I pretty much dedicate myself to truth so I appreciate the comment.

[Tdieseler]

@devilman666 very welcome sir... i was just saying the truth too...

[shi-shi]

I'd still rather make fun of you than have you be nice, but I'm sorry if I made you feel bad

[Tdieseler]

@shi-shi who you talking to? me or devilman? cuz if its me... thats just gonna come back to bite you

[shi-shi]

I'll bully who i like bish

[Tdieseler]

@shi-shi bish? ok, i quit this side of the conversation.

[shi-shi]

:D :D

[boyeo]

I'm sorry, but this is just plain offensive.

Gay men do NOT have it easier. We're conditioned to love women from a young age, and society encourages straight relationships. We're not given those same opportunities to date around in high school, for example, since it's just not as accepted as straight relationships.

And to answer some other people's thoughts down here, online dating SUCKS for gay men. Sure, hook-ups are easy to find. You'll find a guy who wants to fuck you in 10 seconds after signing up. But the popular "dating apps" like Grindr are hardly for dating. Hook-ups are plentiful on there, but if you want to satisfy your desire to have a real relationship, you might as well go straight.

That's just a few things I think about this topic. Feel free to ask me any questions or debate my opinions.

[myTake Owner]

Thanks for your input! That is pretty much what I hoped to get as a response.

[JDavid25]

I feel you.. I think it's just that people (especially women) have too much choice.. Many cry for the guys who want show them any type of attention.. Probably the ones every girl is goin after.. But ignore the dudes who may actually like them.. Guys ain't no better.. Some could already have a girlfriend, or wife, and still go after women like they are single.. It's this type of "disposable attitude" that's becomin toxic for datin.. It's all about havin a "cute" relationship, that you can post on Snapchat, or instagram rather than buildin somethin real wit a person you found attractive, and want to bond with..

[FatherJack]

Don't beat yourself up !! Being a young male , the deck is stacked against you , there are more men than women , esp in younger age groups , your female counterparts are inundated with male attention and have numerous options if they choose , and more women than men choose to stay permanently single , as they have closer friendships , much better support networks , and are less attracted to men , than vice versa , & typically have much lower sex drives than males. My advice is forget the ladies and work and focus on yourself , otherwise the constant rejection will cause greater self esteem damage.

TBH I am glad I no longer am bothered about women in a sexual and esp relationship way , the marriage I ended chipped away at me to a great extent that I have no desire to date , FT working single dad , so that also makes me undesirable to women anyway.

[Other_Tommy_Wiseau]

why beat yourself up when you can just beat yourself off? :D

[IeatChickenandFish]

If you take a step back and take a look at what has been forgotten, its not just women, its the entire world.

The entire world has forgotten what romance is, and what it means. People just want to be happy and contented, and what they see in front of them everyday is a 5 inch screen showing them that, but its not them, so they try their best to be like them.

When it doesn't work, they push down reality even farther until they're completely out of touch. And through all of this, they forget their first goal of being happy.

This social construct of being "connected" has made us numb down to the last nerve that lets us remind ourselves where we come from.

A guy in my group therapy told me this because of his addiction, and holy shit was this true.

[sean1234]

The strange thing is if there are guys like me that can never seem to find a girlfriend/wife, THEN you would think as for people wanting to be with the same sex, they would never ever meet. I naturally don't see anyone as same sex couple anything. For people same sexed to meet, there has to be a heck of a lot of people who think its normal especially ones who are not even into it. Them thinking at that time, "did that same sexed person just check me out", even though you aren't into it?

If people werent soo brainwashed with things, more people would be married today. Wanting to have sex instead of a relationship/marriage, ugh!

[sidsw17]

Im a straight man but have gay male friends, finding partners is easy so im told however a lot gay male people go through partners like they do water, they are very promiscious, will have many many sexual partners and a lot live the single life who just sleep around

[myTake Owner]

Still better than not getting any woman even for just one date.

[luvstoned4him]

This is quite depressing but I just want to encourage you not to give up. Your rainbow is coming but not without its shares of struggles. I mean what man doesn't have one? Love, Jobs, Health. Life can be so unfair sometimes. Stay Strong x

[myTake Owner]

I will. Thank you lady!

[Anonymous]

Many women would be willing to place less value on looks if a guy has a "great personality" or a high social/economic status. Given that these are two factors within one's control, I'd think men have it easier than women. Many men are NOT willing to put aside a woman's looks, even if the man looks like the bottom of a shoe.

by the way, Gay men actually place more emphasis on appearance and masculine features (on average) than women, so it may or may not be harder to find mates in that population.