What You Don't Know About Gender Disphoria

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So many children these days seem to be confused about their gender. And their 'woke' parents, desiring to support them, exacerbate the situation.

Here's a current news-clip about the FIVE THINGS or 'facts' the mainstream doesn't tell you about transgenderism for children.

And yes, too many of you here ARE children - or are barely past childhood as young adults, and a LOT of you are confused about your gender. We see the questions asked here every day. Even worse, there are so many boys that have been beat over the head by feminism telling them they are second-class citizens, that many want to actually become girls.

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  • Silent_Bob
    I'm a pretty liberal guy. Okay... a VERY liberal guy, but political correctness has gone a little bit too far on the whole gender neutrality thing.

    Our society HAS become a bit too thin skinned: Words like "boyfriend", "girlfriend", "husband", and "wife" are NOT "heterosexist". Saying "Sorry, but I don't swing that way" to someone of an incompatible orientation who asks you out is NOT "narrow-minded". Calling a moral guardian a sour prude is a correct assessment, not a slur against their religion. "Personholes?" That's just stupid.

    THAT SAID, HOWEVER:

    Being on the wibbly wobbly area in between the Q and the A of the LGBTQA myself, "Heteronormative Crusaders" are in NO danger of being displaced as a minority and are exaggerating the "trendiness" factor. People forget that the LGBT+ spectrum has existed for countless millennia, but it has only been in the last few decades that they can openly reveal themselves without the fear of being shot, or worse.

    Ultimately, the "confusion" is probably the result of three things:
    1. The growing pains associated with the above paragraph, compare the United States with countries that have advanced farther.
    2. Social media divorces people from reality. Young minds are overloaded with more information than they can handle, while older minds find it all too easy to dehumanize people from different walks of life.
    3. Religious persecution. Some repress who they are out of fear; the inverse is someone trying to "jump on the bandwagon" because of a perceived "forbidden fruit" factor. John Lennon was right, without fundamentalism we would be more enlightened.
    Is this still revelant?

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  • Screenwriter
    The number of detransitioners is fewer than that newswoman claims... "It is estimated that detransitioners range from less than one percent to as many as eight percent of individuals who start transition." The number is closer to the low end of the scale than the high end.
    The biggest argument that holds water is the fact that gender confusion is linked to other psychological issues that need to be addressed FIRST. The most recent numbers seem to support the fact that 95% of transitioners are satisfied with their transitions. HOWEVER, their has been a RUSH to transition people younger and younger. This is in line with people who get drastic plastic surgery as teen-agers.
    I wish there was a minimum age of 25 before sex change surgery was performed with a minimum of two years living as your preferred sex and two years of twice monthly therapy (at least) to work through underlying issues as well as sex change issues. The standards seem all over the map with people as young as 19 getting sex change surgeries.
    Who is the same as they were at 19? How many issues have you changed your mind about since then? How responsible or mature are most people at that age?
    Transgenderism is a trend now and kids mimic other kids to be or feel included.
    If I were those parents, I'd get my kid in therapy to see what's really going on with them: what they're happy with or unhappy with about themselves...
    Is this still revelant?
    • A bit incorrect about detransioning. A majority of people who transition when they're adults are satisfied with the transition. A majority of kids who ''chose'' to transition are not.

    • They lowered the minimum to two years? It used to be three in some states.

      A man generally doesn't find out who he is until he is, on average, 28. The age is a little earlier for women, I think, 25 IIRC.

      True transgenderism IS fairly hard to diagnose, so many therapists do take a "better safe than sorry approach."

      Although a major problem in previous decades was that young people who got denied for the transition surgery, or simply grew impatient with the X year minimum, resorted to reassignment surgery through back alley doctors. More often than not, these surgeons tended to be either crooks or well-meaning incompetents, so a lot of their patients died.

    • Dweezil

      Allowing a young girl to have a mastectomy of her healthy breasts or letting a boy have cosmetic surgery to turn his penis into an opening that "resembles" a vagina does not change a person's gender.

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  • Floki-raven
    It is an very low precentage. But even than i feel like giving children lifechanging operations is irresponibel.

    It is Kind of like if a Kid says "i can fly" you let them Jump out a Window.
    There is an Argument to be Made for the rigth to make your own mistakes but than making a mostake a child can't fully understand?
    • There were a lot of mistakes made in the 60s and 70s about children who were born with hermaphodism: which is, granted a tiny, tiny percentage of children; about 1.7 percent... oddly enough the same percentage as sex change people... I wonder if the two are connected in any way? The problem was that doctors gave ambiguous males operations to remove genitalia before puberty. Some males developed male characteristics, but had been castrated, by puberty. Suicides ensued. Parent needs to wait until children are past whimsical behavior AND puberty to support them on changing their sex. And they've done longterm therapy and lived as the sex they choose to be.

    • @Screenwriter - the voice of reason.

      So, what about this pro-ball player guy?

    • Well, they're a young couple influenced by the current wave of we have to accept anything our kids say as rational... This is how far I'D take it. If the kid says I'm transgender, I'd let them crossdress. I would never have a child take puberty blockers as NO ONE KNOWS anything about these drugs and longterm consequences. I would support the kid getting therapy for transition starting at age 18. I would not support paying for sexual transition surgery before age 21. And personally, as I've said 25 is a more rational age to make such a lifetime commitment. Just as I'd never pay for elective plastic surgery for a child. At any age. That's up to them to pay for. The former, if the young adult has gone through everything, I'd help them with.

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  • Flamesofcinder
    Okay am transgender so I am not coming from a cis angel or fake moral outrage this is my opinion and my opinion alone and I only resent myself.

    Here I go, I do not think under 18’s should transition no scratch that under 21’s shouldn’t allowed too transition as mpthey don’t know what they want and yes kids do not know what they want p, they are inexperienced in life and Feminising hormone’s Does have it side effects on the body which they will have too live with regardless off weather the detranstion or not, our NHS is being stretched thin as it is without these kids parents calling the those that work at GIC’s (gender identity clinic) transphobic and protesting it after all they are the ones that ultimately decide weather you’re sound enough too transition. One off the requirements is too live as the gender you want too be and this isn’t like sexuality where you try it once and if you don’t like oh well NO! There are consequences that they need too think about. All my brothers said when they where 14 if they where a women they be a lesbian and be able too perv on girls all the around the clock and what do you expect them too do if the option is actually there?
    • I'm glad you think putting these decisions off until mental adulthood is achieved has been your choice. I think the fact that it's a trend right now, doesn't help.
      I wished I was a little boy when I was a little girl. Do you think my mom would've supported this when I was 6 and had me dress as a boy etc? How would that have been for me?
      But you know what my mom DID allow me to do: she allowed me to be myself. She accepted me as the daughter that I was: a tomboy, for sure, someone who liked being in pants and climbing trees and playing marbles with and running alongside the boys.
      I was never transgender, but I was myself: interested in things that might be called masculine: cars, running, tree climbing, shooting marbles, building things. Yet I also learned how to sew and I had a few dolls. Now this is called gender fluid. But this is how people have ALWAYS BEEN! There is nothing new to this. It just wasn't named.
      I don't need to be personally quantified. I don't understand why anyone does. But people are all different.

  • MannySimms
    You are what you feel like. Any changes should be done at age 18 or older. Before that, you just can't be sure. I have NO problem with trans people as they live as they should. They do NOT want to change anything about you except your understanding and tolerance. I'm fine with that.What You Don't Know About Gender Disphoria Born male.
    • No, you're not what you FEEL like - you're what you ARE. Just look in your pants - that's what you are!! LOL

    • Thanks for clearing this up! Now... Should I wear boxers or briefs? What TV programs should I avoid?

    • Definitely avoid fake news, like CNN and MSLSD.
      I don't give a shit about your undies.
      And guys just don't have all those FEELINGS like the girls do. Your gender isn't about what you FEEL.

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  • Piteka5
    Kids are accustomed to experiment and question everything including themselves, even my brother prefer playing with barbies and it wasn't because of that my parents got all worked up with it or he had any problem. They are so woke to these kind of things that anything that falls outside the stereotype means their kid wants to transition
    • Uh, no. The problem is that our entire society is built around nurturing and protecting the 'weaker sex' to the point where now boys are loath to become a man - they want to change to a girl. It's sick.

    • I'd love to hear more about the trans people in your life who've confided this truth to you.

      Was it relatives, friends, or are you talking about someone on youtube or a blog or something you could link me to?

      Or is this not a single subjective experience you're describing, but actually a comprehensive study from some health organization? Would you share that with me? I'm still trying to understand trans people and all I've been hearing is the reports from the world health organization, the American Psychological Association, the Mayo Clinic, and the personal stories and experiences of thousands of action trans and gender non-conforming people.

      So I'd love to hear about the research or experiences behind this take.

    • @MikeAndMolly - It's a vid, dipshit. GTFO

  • Massageman
    Thank you for the objective information.

    The irony is that very few people actually have a diagnosis of gender dysphoria. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) is the "encyclopedia" used by clinicians and psychiatrists to determine, diagnose, and code psychiatric conditions. Gender Dysphoria, while being a new addition to DSM-5, is simply a new term for Gender Identity Disorder. In order to 'prevent stigma, guarantee clinical care for people who perceive and "believe" they are a different sex [sic] than their designated gender,' the new term was introduced (American Psychiatric Publishing, 2013). The DSM-5 diagnostic measures for "gender dysphoria" include 'tough and unrelenting cross-gender classification that go further than a need for an alleged cultural benefit'. But, regardless of how many transitions and/or retransitions and/or untransitions someone makes, their DNA will always indicate that they are either a male or a female, their one-time and for-all-time "assigned gender", commonly known as "their sex".
    Thanks again for the great points.
  • DWornock
    Less than 2% are confused but what you hear 24/7 from the media is about the confused 1% to2%.
    • Yep. Kind of like the whole alphabet people movement, huh?

  • Bananaman177
    This is what people don't know about gender dysphoria.
    This is what people don't know about gender dysphoria.
  • CuriousMufuxka
    I almost have enough woke points to order a trans for kids walkthrough from california, but sadly I have to wait for Bernie to take over so I can afford the shipping cost.
  • lanadelrey25
    Why don't you FUCK OFF and die, you're fucking 63 you'll be dead in a few years anyways lmfao old fucking fart
  • Liam_Hayden
    I personally don't care what they do as long as they wait till adulthood and pay for it themselves.
    • The suicide rate among transgender people is 49% by the age of 18, for cases where both social and medical transition was denied.

      That rate dropped to less than 7%, roughly similar to gay and lesbian teens, when both social and medical transition were embraced by the family and community.

      The free marketplace of ideas allows people to think we should hold policies that directly cause the deaths of children. That doesn't make those ideas defensible.

      Most of the disagreement surrounding the trans debate could be settled if moderates would actually make an effort to review the research surrounding gender dysphoria, transition, and gender non-conforming people in general.

      Obviously the kind of ingrained transphobia demonstrated by the OP is not going to yield to something as weak as "science" and "reason" and "truth."

      But I really believe stuff like this is just the result of misinformation or apathy.

  • Leah1273
    don’t really understand what your saying or if you agree with trans umbrella but I’m a trans girl~
    • Browneye57

      You're a child. Ask your mommy.

    • Leah1273

      I’m 14 and my mum doesn’t support me becoming a girl

    • Well, if I were your mom, I'd support your doing what you were doing and get you therapy to continue. But it would be up to you after age 21 to go further: live as the other sex, get sex change surgery if you choose to do that.
      It's an incredibly serious and permanent move. I would not support you rushing into it in any case.

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  • Gedaria
    True, but one thing you say is that they don't know their own mind.
    It's one of the most insulting things to say. In reality you are imposing YOUR wishes on them. It's like education you try to steer your children down a track you are wanting them go down , you want to be a banker make loads of money.
    But he wants to learn the guitar and join a band. Is that wrong!!
    It's the same way about your inner desperate feeling of being in the wrong body. Hold him back you could end up with a son commiting suicide, because he feels so lost. I know I have been there.
    Plus what is the worst can happen he finds out he has made a mistake. It can be reversed.
    Surprisingly this happens more in girls, than boys...
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