My BAD BOY - Tinder Experiment (1) - Are all women secretly attracted to bad boys?

I have noticed, that some men on GaG have hatred towards women who are attracted to bad boys. What these men don't understand is that sexual attractiveness is created subconsciously and women have no influence on that. I am intelligent enough to know, that i have to blame nature not women...

Nevertheless, as you probably already know, I want to find out if there are women who are not at all attracted to bad boys, and if so, how many. I know that most people think that I should just relax and forget about this bad boy subject. But if I did, I would never find out the truth. Therefore, this is not an option for me.

The Bad Boy subject was the reason why I registered on GaG about 4 months ago and took a poll.
The result was:
At least, 41% of women claimed "that they never had a thing for bad boys.“
So why am I not happy with the result and live my life in harmony?


Outline:

1. Is there no such thing as a woman who is not at all attracted to bad boys?

2. The Bad Boy - Tinder Experiment

3. What impact will the results have on me

1. Is there no such thing as a woman who is not at all attracted to bad boys?

The problem is that I cannot trust women on this subject. Why not?
One woman wrote:

„I know guys think gangsters are sexy to us but they're really not, they come off as dumb, immature bullys.“
Elsewhere the same woman wrote:

“nothing makes me feel more wild and dirty and like a woman then tatted up black man who's straight out of prison“
These are literally two completely opposite statements. 🧐🤨🤷‍♂️

some women have claimed that they were only attracted to bad boys in movies/books/series etc. But to be honest, I don't believe that. Why should it be different in real life? It doesn't make sense to me.

I have talked to my sister about the bad boy topic several times. She has always been adamant that she finds bad boys "disgusting and nasty"!
But the other day she showed me a man on Tinder that she matched. She admitted that the fact that he looks like a bad boy makes him more attractive. I am confused. Does she find bad boys attractive or not? 🙄🤦‍♂️

I have more examples but I don't want this MyTake to become too long.

To make it clear, I don’t believe that my sister nor women on GaG deliberately lie to me in order to mislead me.
But for whatever reason, some women make very contradictory statements.

One woman put my concerns in a nutshell:
“I think […] there more women attracted to this kind of guy but don't want to admit it. I guess some women are afraid of being judged because of their preferences.”

A woman texted in my dm‘s:
„I think in a certain way we're more "the same" in what we want than men are. Like I can tell you that EVERY girl likes a bad guy“

Could this woman be right?🤔
Is there no such thing as a woman who is not at all attracted to bad boys?
I will find that out!

I have learned that there is no point in asking a woman whether she has a thing for bad boys because I can never know if she will tell me the truth or not. This leads me to generally question the statements of women on this topic. I don’t claim that they lie, but I also cannot claim that they tell me the truth. The only thing I know for sure is, that I know nothing at all.
That is why I need a different method than doing polls and asking questions on GaG.

I have to investigate the actions of women and not their statements. But how should I do this concretely?

I thought about it quite a bit until I had an idea. 💡


2. The Bad Boy - Tinder experiment

I'm not sure about some of the details yet, so here's only a simplistic procedure:

phase 1:
I will search on the Internet for an attractive man who looks like a "good guy" (i.e. likeable, friendly...) but of course manly and not like a pushover.
Then I will create a Tinder profile with this man and try to match as many women as possible.

Let's say a woman matches this "good guy":
This way I know that this woman is into good guys! But I don't know if she also has a thing for bad boys! Since I cannot read her mind, how do I find out if she is exclusively attracted to good guys and not at all to bad boys? 🤔

phase 2:
To find out, I create 20 more Tinder profiles with men who all look like bad boys (i.e. evil, aggressive...). This means that I have to get 20 SIM cards first, because I always have to enter a new phone number when I want to create a new profile 😒. But I will spare no expense and effort for my experiment. 💪
I will then also try to match as many women as possible with each of these bad boys.

A short time after a woman has matched the good guy, the first of my 20 bad boys is suggested to her as another match. If she also matches him I know that she is attracted to good guys, but also to bad boys.

If she rejects him there are 2 possible reasons for this:

1. she is not attracted to bad boys

or

2. she is (generally spoken) attracted to bad boys, but finds this specific bad boy unattractive

Just because she rejected one single bad boy doesn't mean that she is not attracted to bad boys in general! ☝️

BUT:
If a woman doesn't match a single one of these 20 bad boys, it is very, very unlikely that she is attracted to bad boys!


A calculation:

Assuming the average bad boy out of these 20 bad boys is perceived as attractive by 20% of women (I don't know if this is realistic. But since I will try to choose attractive bad boys I don't think it is overestimated. My friends, however, think that 20% would be quite high for a man. What do you think?)

So the probability that a woman finds a bad boy optically unattractive would be 80%.

The probability that a woman is attracted to bad boys but coincidentally finds every single one of these 20 bad boys unattractive and therefore rejects every single one of them is:

0,8 • 0,8 • 0,8 • 0,8 •.................. = 0,8^20 ≈ 0,0115
So only 1,15%

In other words:
If a woman matches the good guy but not a single one of these 20 bad boys, there is a 98.85% chance that she is just not at all attracted to bad boys 🙂
This is such a solid probability that it is high enough for me 👌
And then I can finally make my peace with this topic


3. What impact will the results have on me

If the results show, that almost all women, or even literally all women, are attracted to bad boys, I will definitely fake the bad boy image one day.

If not, then not 👌

My BAD BOY - Tinder Experiment (1) - Are all women secretly attracted to bad boys?

What I have described here is only a preliminary idea. Maybe I will modify my experiment before I do it. Unfortunately I do not have time to do this experiment at the moment because it is very time consuming. It may take a long time until I will be able to do it. As soon as I have done it, I will do a MyTake about it.

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  • Lol you and your bad boys lol. Did I tell you me and my boy just bought a huge property and new trucks and stuff? Big new house. It's paradise. He still wears a suit and goes to the office tooo.

  • You must understand that the concept of bad boy is rather loose.

    • Yes I know. In my experiment I will choose men who look like bad Boys without a doubt.

    • Looks aren’t what gets the women. It’s how you pull it off. And you don’t sound like you’re capable lol

    • Bad boy looks, I should say Chris Hemsworth is not a bad boy but he sure is fine lol

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  • This is the most ridiculous thing I've read from you so far. There are a ton of studies on: if, when, how and why woman are attracted to bad guys and also how many percentage that (on average) might be.

    In your research you are basically going to steal other people's identity to pose on the internet wich is a crime.

    If you feel like a bad boy additude will get you laid, just do so already. I can tell you right of the bat that it will work sometimes because some woman are attracted to bad boy behaviour or looks or both.

    But really, this is an experiment that won't work because there are too much variables.
    Just them matching will only tell if they are interested in how the guy on the picture looks and that holds nothing of value in terms of research.

    Please just take all the info you got and go out and be that bad boy to get laid.
    This research will not only get you biassed results (not every woman is on tinder) but it will also always point to your desired answer because of researcher bias (look that up)

  • This is an interesting experiment. Here's my opinion: that sloppy goofball you picture above is fairly reprehensible and is hyperbole, I know. I like a man who has a Harley, hunts or fishes and likes the outdoors, using his muscles to do a little yardwork, but can appreciate a good concert, cook a decent meal, grow a nice tomato, loves fashion and art. Renaissance man.
    He appreciates his physical strengths as a male and uses them; he appreciates his genuine emotions, yet guards them, because there are men who think emotions in a man indicate weakness, he is a protector of friends and family, and lends his help where needed. I'm describing my father to a great extent, and I appreciate those characteristics in my son and any man I'm attracted to.
    There might be a trend to feminize men because of toxic masculinity. But the solution to toxic masculinity is NOT femininity. It's removing the TOXINs. Take away those, and masculinity is perfectly fine. I don't want a woman-man and I don't want to be a man-woman!
    Each sex has something unique to give. It doesn't matter what your sexuality is, the men who I'm ALWAYS attracted to are masculine: gay, straight, bi or something else.
    You can no more eradicate genuine masculinity than you can genuine femininity. We are a product of our hormones. A man who wears pink or a silly hat and high heels is still the man that he is.
    But a man who has a sense of humor is one of the best finds.

  • I think it goes as a phase for some the other part is finding a guy who isn’t fake. I grew up privileged we lived on a lake our families had a lot of money. I can just say there was a lot of acting people trying to play a part. I was sick of guys being cheesy many didn’t seem like guys but like a girls 😂. I like the guys and girls who knew they didn’t have money and they knew we knew.
    They never tried to pretend to be they just had fun partied hard and was very honest and real. You get the bad boys and the pretty boys both nothing more that trying to hard. I think a few times I tried while especially 12-14 years old fitting in the mold my friends was making the cool 😎 kids do this. The sad part is how many adults on even here are like children like sheep. I think we not always looking for the bad boy we are looking for a man who doesn’t give a fuck about what anyone thinks about him! That’s sexy as fuck! Yeah that’s also who is amazing in bed 🛌 and will give you a soul shaking orgasm!

  • That’s actually really clever.

    It’s nothing new though, and you’re going in the same circle guys have always been going in. You’re still trying to rationalize what women are attracted to on a 100% logical basis, but that cannot and will not work.
    As you yourself verified in this, there’s more to it. One minute we say we do and the next apparently we don’t. That means that the “bad boy factor” is NOT what determines whether we like the guy or not. And guess what... no one factor is or will ever be - whether it’s bad boy, money, charisma, confidence, etc. No. Welcome to the same battle you’ve been trying to logically rationalize for millennia and still can’t get right.

    So, clever idea, but you’re stuck in the same circle.

  • Here’s the thing, if a guy is good looking then he’s good looking. That should be distinguished from being attracted to a guy because he’s a bad boy. There’s a difference between being attracted to a guy because he’s a bad boy or in spite of him being a bad boy.


    Another to remember is that with tinder, your sample size is made up mostly of lower tier women. Smart, high value women don’t even bother with tinder. And they don’t bother with bad boys, regardless of how good looking he might be.

    • @mzash I know, but unfortunately I can't think of an experiment that I could do to find out if the woman finds the man attractive BECAUSE or IN SPITE OF him being a bad boy. But with my experiment I can find women for whom a bad boy is even a huge turn off! These are the women I crave 👌. I want a woman that is so turned off by Bad Boys, that his looks doesn’t even matter to her if he is a bad boy.

  • Omg, being honest aren't you tired of investigating bad boys? I mean you are investing so much time and dedication to something that doesn't go to help you in studies/work/personal life. In the end, everyone decide and goes out with someone who fits with their way of thing/values/things in common. Invest your time in something that gonna help you to be closer to your goals!🙌🏼

  • You're clearly obsessed with this "bad guy vs good guy thing". Seriously you should forget about this and move on. You'll never met every woman in the world, you'll never know what all women like because we all have our preferences. Not to mention that not all women are heterosexual.
    You're just wasting time and putting effort into something that it's not that important.

    Don't you have problems in your real life?

  • intimidating face + warm heart = perfect

  • So I recently read some erotica that explains this very well, it's not necissarily that we want guys who are criminals and has been into prison that makes us attracted to them. It's not that the guy cusses a lot and is horrible to everyone that makes us go yum. I find its more about the confidence he has and whether or not he has control of himself and how he interacts with others around him.

    It's for this reason many girls will say military guys or guys in uniforms are so hot, even I have a cheeky peek when there's a plumber or gasman coming round, there was an army base near my collage so there was loads of eye candy there. That it's not the bad boy itself but rather what that persona excludes.

    Within the story it explains that this girl has never had the O with a man, and she went to the playboy to give her that, "he" deduced its not him being a playboy but rather a bad boy she was after as in sexual situations he took control off of her or aka dominated her.

    So maybe do some more easier research before doing field work and secondly do not change yourself as the women will catch you out after awhile and it just wouldn't work out.

  • I think the only way to truly see is to test it out in real life on yourself. But acting like a bad boy isn't easy. You have to learn how.

    But actually, it is easy. Because if you do the right "bad boy" things, women will react to you in a completely different way. And those actions you took become quickly reinforced.

    That's how bad boys become bad boys in the first place. Whether it started at a young age or older. For example, a guy might accidentally do something "bad boy-ish." He sees immediate positive responses from women, so he starts experimenting and upping the ante on his bad boy behaviors.

    Girls will tell you not to fake it, that you will eventually be "caught." They think bad boys are born like that. No, bad boys are created, and they are created by women. Women respond positively to bad boys and so it reinforced bad boy behavior in those guys who manage to begin the process.

    If you act like a bad boy, the girls will give you tons of attention. But if even for 1 instant you stop the act and do something shy, poof, interest gone. Women are like robots. You type the bad boy command and they shower you with attention and affection. You input the shy guy command, poof, attention revoked. Input the bad boy command again, poof, attention re-acquired. It's amazing to see how they are I've experienced it myself.

    You would think that once you change how you act, girls would think "wow this guy flip flops I'm not interested anymore." Nah, that's not how it works. They literally respond to you based on how you act in the moment and the rest of your past is meaningless. You could be the biggest loser nerd and one day become this suave bad boy player and the girls will swoon.

    Knowledge of the truth is only reserved for those guys who have experienced it. No test you do on tinder is going to prove shit. You can only prove it to yourself by trying out the bad boy shit in real life. And you don't have to get it right on the first time. Trial and error and how girls respond will guide you there.

  • Something about bad boys are just so hot, but I feel like people have different interpretations of what a bad boy is. When I say I want a bad boy it doesn’t mean I want a criminal or someone who screws around, it’s more of a personality and look kind of thing. And tbh I think the whole bad boy thing is just younger girls because I’ve heard a lot of older woman say it’s just because “their young”.

    • Yes! This.

  • Great mytake! Well written and I enjoyed reading your thoughts. Thanks for posting and for inviting me!

    • Thanks a lot! 🙂

  • Very interesting.

    My BAD BOY - Tinder Experiment (1) - Are all women secretly attracted to bad boys?
    • Thanks 🙂

  • I highly suggest you look up what the red pill has to say about this. Because the red pill is SPOT ON. Asking women about why they like bad boys is often futile. Because most of the time, you will get a politically correct answer.

    Yes, they are attracted to bad boys. Every woman is. But what kind of bad boys? Not necessary the criminal. Often, far from it. You see, criminals often hold certain characteristic of a bad boy. Think of dominance, masculine, confidence, assertiveness & the I don't give a fuck mentality. One of the most CRUCIAL things they like is looks. Often, bad boys are depicted as looking great. Both in face and body.

    As a guy who has never committed a crime (otherwise the Air Force would've never accepted me), it's thanks to my looks (face & body), confidence, intellect, masculinity and leadership that helped me get girls. In both relationships and one night stands. I NEVER made progress when I was the typical nice guy. Get rid of the beta nice guy and you will start making progress. Women HATE simps & cucks. They crave for the dominant and masculine guy. Why do you think movies like 50 shades of grey and 50 Dni got viral? That should tell you enough that women talk shit when they say they dislike bad boys. No they don't.

    I get so much hate from women on GAG because I'm not scared to put them in their place and call them out for their bullshit. And yet many of these same women/girls send me PMs wanting to "talk things out" or admit that they have shown interest. And I've never even shown my face.. lmfao

  • Honestly right I didn't read all that I just read the question and I won't say it's the bad boy thing is appealing to all because even the girls that say they like bad boys they still prefer him to treat her good etc even tho he is considered a bad boy... so really and truly he a bad boy but still a nice guy when it comes to her.
    I would say I don't have a preference about bad of good guys but I would say once u are Ur self and I vibe with u answer hit it off nice guy or bad guy we can see where things go.

  • To me, yeah bad boys are kinda attractive but it is not just about being bad boy... and in my opinion I wouldn't like to date someone who is a bad boy bc most of them are just assholes and jerks... So no I wouldn't like a bad boy... I can find him kinda cool but wouldn't feel like being with him

  • Well I have to be honest,
    I used to be very attracted to bad boys in my teenage years but I think when you reach you're late 20s you realise that they aren't worth you're time. Every woman wants a man that treats her right, respects her and love her but I think the reason why we are naturally attracted to bad boys I think is because they are tough and basically we know that they are gonna be a bit rough in the bedroom which is a really big turn on for most women.


    Well, once they don't over do it and don't disrespect you while doing so if that makes sense?


    I think what I'm trying to say is we want a good guy with also a bit of a tough side to him,
    Like he is super sweet to you but protective of you and a bit rough in the bedroom.

    • Very interesting.

  • Weird... Every guy I was attracted to was a good guy.
    They guys I'm currently attracted to are good guys
    Not once were they the "bad boy" type or even acted like one.

  • Would be more interesting if you did something comparing height.

    Or create accounts for
    hot guy, average guy, ugly guy
    hot girl, average girl, ugly girl
    and repeat for heterosexual and hosexual then compare the number of matches and how much engagement they get. Also what % of girls who have "not interested in hookups" in their profile end up agreeing to hookup with the hot guy.

    • There is also a website called thispersondoesnotexist. com which uses ai and generates photorealistic faces. I think you can find versions that generate bodies too

  • It's rather disappointing that people waste time studying things like this.

    It's not that serious.

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