Some say there's no penis so there's no penetration. But female-female sex can also include the use of dildos and strap ons so than there's penetration.
From the heterosexual point of view you are TECHNICALLY a virgin if there's no penis-vagina penetration. You might have done everything else God has forbidden but TECHNICALLY you are a virgin.
I don't share this view though. When I hear vrigin I really think virgin like I was, so only having kissed and touched another (no private parts) So my first time, was firt time everything besides kissing and touching. Oral sex came after penetrative sex and among my peers that was standard. Funny how thing can change so quickly. Now oral sex comes first for a lot.
Fingers penetrate, but sex doesn't just mean sticking something in a hole. Two pussies have sex together.
Exactly. Sex is sex no matter how you look at it. Besides, a lesbian can still be penetrated using dildos and other sex toys. Seriously, people, get over your stone age thinking.
We can still being penetrated using fingers. I don't count a toy, it isn't a person. But there is not need of sticking something in hole for sex. Pussy on pussy or oral
Oral sex isn't foreplay. Its a sexual act. They don't consider themselves virgins and they're not.
My sister is gay and I don't consider her a virgin at all
i said yes but that is because i wasn't thinking of toys if they have been penetrated by toys then they are not even though it isn't a penis it's them getting stimulated with someone else they like with penetration involved so they loose their virginity
You weren't thinking of fingers. Fingers penetrate. And sex is with person part stimulating a person, not toy. And not, sex doesn't mean involving any hole. Not when there are two vulva and clits. Vulva to vulva sex or oral sex. A woman who hasn't had nothing in her hole but had sex, isn't more virgin than any guy.
I do not think that it counts as it is unnatural
If two men are giving each other BJ's you would not say that they have lost there virginity so how is it any different?
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Yes, they are technical virgins.
In my opinion, even a woman who's been fucked by a man wearing a condom is still a technical virgin. She's only been fucked by a condom, and had no contact with his dick.
It doesn't matter that he used his dick to operate the condom. It's much the same as him using a rubber dildo on her, and it doesn't matter what he uses to control it.
I don't think the condom matters.
What difference does a condom make?
If a dick hasn't touched her internally, she's only been fucked by a condom. She hasn't been fucked by a dick. It doesn't matter that there was a dick inside the condom. I do believe that "technical virginity", or even any virginity, is useless concept.
Technically, but the standard definition of virginity - yes. But people should stop giving a crap about these definitions.
if they've never had a dick in their pussy or anus then yes they will be virgins for life. It isn't a natural act therefor you cannot get a legit answer. there will always be opinions on this matter.
You're talkibg about natural, when you mention the poophole, which isn't naturally made for sex, unlike a clitoris. You think gay sex is valid but not lesbian Your comment is completely retarded and misogynistic
if u broke your hymen in the process than u will be counted as non virgin
Sex is sex no matter how you do it
no because they've been fucked/or they have fucked with strapon LOL
I'm a lesbian, and never used a strapon. Piece of plastic isn't sex and idiot males who cannot think to sex without something looking like their D, think lesbian sex is about it. No, women on woman is oral, fingering or pussy to pussy fucking.
it depends on how you define virginity
Virginity ends with penis-penetrative intercourse, vaginal or anal. So yes.
No, phallocentric idiot, virginity ends when you have sex experience, The penis doesn't end anything and it isn't necessary for sex.
Huh.. I've never thought about that. I'd imagine yes, because no dick in vagina action. But i guess it depends if you consider oral sex or if fingering counts.
Nope Sex is Sex. I agree with @QueenofSilentFoxes, ask @AnimeDreama she is lesbian. I believe lesbian sex is still sex. They dont need to be penetrated by a penis for it to be considered sex. Sorry but thinking that is just stupid
Exactly.
How is it stupid? Please can you enlighten us.
Well sex is srx, just a different form. Oral sex is sex, then lesbian sex is sex as well
If they haven't had a dick in their vagina then yes they are still virgins, anyone who says otherwise is wrong.
True true well said
Sex isn't only hetero. You're the one wrong with your nonsense.
"Virgin" Is not a medical term. So its impossible to really say, depends on your opinion on what virginity actually entails for lesbians.
No , lesbians is not virgins.
Virginity means a girl's hymen is still intact...
Going by the medical definition, most people can never say they are virgins since a girl's hymen tears by the time she hits 12 do to physical activity.
I have no idea, we need to send a petition to WHO regarding this.
Virginity isn't defined by having hetero sex. It's defined by having sex.
If you don't know how lesbians have sex, I'm not going to teach you.
In the traditional way of think then yeah they are virgins
Sex is sex. I personally count all of it sex if it involves at least one genital and another person.
To other lesbians, they aren't. They're called "Gold Star." But a straight girl with similar experience would be a virgin. So, I'm not sure.
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