Why can't feminists see how hypocritical they are? and why do they keep bringing up stats that have been disproved over and over again?

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feminists are the most dense people I've ever met. they're nothing but a bunch of man haters. they preach equality yet only focus on first world white middle to upper class female problems. they keep bringing up the wadge gap but over and over agian, its been disproved. all you have to do is google it. then they go and say that we need to teach men not to rape. the fuck? not every guy is a freaking rapist. you know, kinda how you always say not all feminists hate men? oops! look at that! there's another contradiction by feminists! dont generalize, right? what about teaching women not to kill babies because they couldnt keep their legs closed? then there's blaming world violence on masculinity. oh yes, because women NEVER fight! go to youtube and look up girl fights. tons of 'em. and of coarse there's going to be that old broken record. "you don't understand feminism! you just don't understand!" But you wanna know the funny part? EVERYONE who isn't a feminist see past your lies and call you a man hating group. EVERYONE. so maybe its YOU who doesn't understand the word. and you all say the same shit over and over agian like a bunch of brainwashed drones. and of course when all else fails? when you've been disproven at every corner? when you've been called out for all of your lies and contradictions? what do you do? you cry, play the victim, call the person who's made you look stupid a bunch of names and wait for the white knights to come to your rescue. AND STOP TAKING CREDIT FOR WHAT FEMINISTS ACCOMPLISHED IN THE PAST!! YOU DIDN'T DO SHIT!! men and women are already equal. no one wants you around to hear your first world white women privlege bitching. and why am I making this anonymous? because I don't want to deal with the white knight, pc, feminist bull shit. because I already know what you're going to say becuase you all say the same shit everytime.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Why are you so upset about Feminism? Usually when I see posts like these I laugh and go on about my day, but I decided to comment today.

1.) "they're nothing but a bunch of man haters."

Uhm, no. Real feminists don't hate men. Real feminists just wanted to be treated as an equal. Are you aware that there are some male feminists.

2.) "they preach equality yet only focus on first world white middle to upper class female problems."

You're wrong again. Yes, we do preach equality, but our main focus is not just white, middle to upper class females. Feminism is everywhere. Feminism is focused on the issues of females of all races, all social classes, and all nationalities. Me personallly, I'm black, American, lower class, and yes female.

3.) "they keep bringing up the wage gap"

That's because the wage gap is a real issue.

4.) "they say that we need to teach men not to rape."

Feminists are aware that not all men are rapists, but we are also aware that most rape and sexual assault is committed by men. How about we just teach people not to rape?

5.) "what about teaching women not to kill babies"

Not all feminists have the same views on abortion. That just depends on the individual person. I personally believe that women should be able to decide what to do with their bodies. If they decide to abort then that's their choice. If they decide to keep the baby then that's their choice.

6.) "you're like a bunch of brainwashed drones."

Uhm... no. I'm pretty sure I'm a fully functional human being with a mind of my own. I chose to be a feminists, I was not brainwashed.

7.) "When you've been called out for all your lies and contradictions? What do you do? You cry, play the victim, call the person who's made you look stupid a bunch of names, and wait for the white knights"

I've never actually been called out for lies and contradictions. That's because I don't make up lies or contradictions just to support feminisim. Even if I did I wouldn't cry, play the victim, insult someone, or wait for a man to fight my battles. I can stand on my own two feet. I don't need to act like a victim and wait for "white knights".

8.) "STOP TAKING CREDIT FOR WHAT FEMINISTS DID IN THE PAST"

I've never taken credit for what feminists did in the past. I admire the people who stood for feminism in the past and I hope to carry on their work, but I have never taken credit for their fight.

Maybe you just don't know as much about Feminism as you think you do.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

I'm a black and middle class and very strongly identified as a feminist. There are plenty of us out there. This isn't really a feminist problem. White populations in predominantly white countries in general often aren't very sensitive or aware of intersectional problems. I'd argue that while we still have that problem within the feminist community, feminists I've known have been light years ahead of accepting things like white privilege and at least trying to be concerned with intersectional awareness than the vast majority of non-feminists. So clearly, feminism itself isn't the issue there.

The wage gap technically has not been disproven. Can you calmly and clearly explain what you mean by that? There is a wage gap. It exists. There is no credible source that shows women make 100% of what men make in the same jobs, across the board. There's discussion about the source of the problem not being just about deliberate sexist discrimination but also about differences in how women are conditioned which may lead to different behaviors (like being less assertive about negotiation of wages, etc.), if thats what you mean. You should be clearer and more concise when you say "it has been disproven," especially when that actually isn't true. Don't just say it's true. Show that you know why/how it's allegedly not true, if you can. Otherwise its clear that you're just echoing something someone else said, that you don't fully understand yourself.

We shouldn't emphasize that men shouldn't rape women, because not all men are rapists? Huh? And not all women want to be raped, but society does a bang up job of slut shaming and blaming the victim, and teaching women how to avoid being raped. That's kind of the point...

I honestly just can't with the rest of this. You don't come across as a very intelligent person who knows what she's talking about. Your take is written in the structure of an erratic rant and your points lack logical foundation, at best. That's not exactly rare on this website, but you could at least add some structure (paragraphs, anyone?) and make it sound like you were actually trying to think/argue intelligently about something. Hell, I could compose an anti-feminist take better than this, and make way more sense, without the empty cliched stereotypes and the "I'll just say this as if I know some shit, but I really, clearly don't" irony.

Goldie757 · Accepted Answer

Here we go.

Jxpxtxr · Accepted Answer

I stopped reading this when I saw that you seriously spelled "wage" 'wadge' tbh 😂

That-Guy · Accepted Answer

For ever 20 feminist, there's 1 extreme one that will be targeted and blogged about.

It goes the same for Jehovah Witnesses, Christians, Democrats, Republicans, NRA, Athletes, crossfitters, body builders, Wrestlers, musicians, Asians, Blacks, Jews, Rock Climbers, Gamblers, Mechanics, Doctors, Lawyers, RC car Racers, Puzzlers, card Dealers, Mexicans, Whites, foodies, pregnant people, Lego builders, Contractors, Peta members, etc..

It's very easy to make "hasty generalizations" because the few extreme are focused on while the rest aren't taken into account.

Are some Feminist over the top? Yes. The ones that aren't probably won't waste their time preaching or voicing their opinion when they know there's nothing to be gained.

FakeName123 · Accepted Answer

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AustinMan · Answer

Thus endeth the rant?

nobuttonstopush · Answer

Wonderfully written piece.

BoopBoopBeep · Answer

Uhm... Do you have any sisters that like older men? Asking "for a friend."

Mesonfielde · Answer

That is actually why I don't identify with the term anymore. My views are my own. Any overlap is coincidental.

Jam321 · Answer

I loved your question and detail, i really loved it so much. These are not feminist who hate men. Feminist is like Savitribai phule, who created schools for girls. She created equality for woman and she respected men. And these feminist nowdays, its just aim to hate men, and nothing else