Most women are prostitutes one way or another?

[Anonymous]

https://www.damajority.com/all-women-are-prostitutes-agree-or-disagree-a-must-read/ Read this article and see if you agree, that sounds like most women to me. The value of an offer for sex is almost always more valuable from a women than a man, so men normally have to offer more than sex to get sex, thus paying for it in some way, which is prostitution.

[pnl86]

An interesting read.

If you're into evolutionary psychology, just consider how successful the coordinated female effort of insisting that the word "sIut" is a negative word has been.

Think about it. Without women insisting that "sIut" is a negative word, how would dating look like?

Girl: "Oh, I'm not that kind of girl."
Guy: "What do you mean?"
Girl: "You know, the kind of girl that just has sex with a guy."
Guy: "I don't understand. What's inherently 'bad' or 'negative' about that?"
Girl: "It's just that..."
Guy: "What?"
Girl: "Men will not respect a girl that's that way, and will not marry her."
Guy: "Says who?"
Girl: "Other girls."
Guy: "Wow, what a credible source. Well, I'm telling you that that's not true."
Girl: "Well, I don't believe you. Of course you'd say that, you just want sex."
Guy: "Are you saying you don't want to have sex?"
Girl: "I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that I want to get married afterwards."
Guy: "Ah! So, what you're really saying is, that even though you want to have sex, you will not have sex 'UNLESS' it also leads to marriage"
Girl: "Exactly"
Guy: "That's interesting, because you see, I just want to have sex with you. That doesn't mean that that's the ONLY thing I want from you or with you. It just means that I consider sex in isolation, and don't condition it on me getting other things."
Girl: "I understand, but how do I know if after we have sex, you won't just leave?"
Guy: "Well, if people are happy, people stay. If people are not happy, they leave. Are you saying you want me to stay, even if I'm not happy, or that you think that you won't make me happy?"
Girl: "I want you to promise to stay, no matter what."
Guy: "Well, I don't know what kind of hutzpah someone has to have to ask that of anyone, but one thing is clear, I guess there's nothing inherently negative about a girl that has sex with a man."

So, that's really why girls maintain the whole, "girls who sleep with guys are negative/bad" thing. Otherwise, they would be forced to engage in the long-winded discussion of the merits behind asking a guy to essentially commit himself to her, and stay with her, even if he's no longer happy (e. g., marriage).

So, young boys and older men who are not yet married should learn, that unless you really find that one special person who you love having sex with AND she's just awesome, then just tell girls you're not interested in marriage (and see if they'll still stay).

[AleDeEurope]

That was so poorly written you can't take it seriously.
Of course there are women who use sex as a weapon to get what they want, there are a LOT of women that do that, but I wouldn't say the majority.
I'd never pay a woman for sex, or give them something in return. I don't care if she needs to pay the rent, she's not getting shit from me, she already got my dick, that's more than she deserves xD

[Asker]

You will normally have to offer something besides sex without you even knowing, even if it's just spending time with her, now you may say "well i want to spend time with her" yes you would still have sex with her if she didn't spend time with you, while you will have to spend time with her in order to get sex.

[AleDeEurope]

Ehh not really. I've had girls come to my place, have sex, and never talk again. I didn't even had to pick them up and take them back to their house. So I didn't "pay" her with anything. Spending time with her is not a form of payment, it's what many people want before having sex so they can get to know each other better, men do that too.

[RJGraveyTrain]

Actually prostitution (legally) refers to a man or woman who solicites sex for money. Wanting certain things from a relationship is not prostitution as that is not the definition of prostitution. Don't believe me? Here's the actual definition:

Prostitution, Noun: The act or practice of engaging in sexual intercourse for money.

People are basic.

[bbb10]

Just because he gets more than sex for what hew pays for is superfluous to semantics, poor men can't afford pussy.

[Anonymous]

I agree. I'm not a prostitute though because I refuse to use my vagina as leverage for the things I want in life.

[Asker]

so women really are whores, disgusting

[Opinion Owner]

Some are. Some aren't.

[bryon]

Well that's one way to look at it , it prolly won't make you a Ladies man any time soon thou

[Asker]

I wouldn't want to if I have to pay for it in some way

[bryon]

well the way the article puts it even a mans wife could fit into this category , I don't agree with this notion

[Asker]

that's the point, most women sell sex in some way, wives included

[OlderAndWiser]

What does that attitude get for you, other than free dues in MGTOW?

[Asker]

Just the acknowledgement of truth

[OlderAndWiser]

There is no such thing as truth. There is only the perception of truth. . . and everyone has their own perception.

[fuuuark]

So nothing is nothing, look bro i have a ba in philosophy, and inferred knowledge (although this could even be by definition) is preferred to what you say, which is a paradox that contradicts itself

[OlderAndWiser]

@fuuuark So, would you like to enlighten us with some universal truth? You have a BA in philosophy so I guess you have a job as a philosopher, right? And that explains why you have a 2% MHO rating. Poor little stupid me has a 22% rating. You don't know whether I have a degree - or two - do you? Do you know what my degrees are in? I didn't volunteer that information to try to impress anyone. The truth is that "most women are prostitutes" is a classification which depends upon the definition of the term and it is highly subjective, scarcely an inescapable conclusion. It is a conclusion which thereafter clouds this guy's perception of women in a very harmful way and I am trying to offer a little friendly advice. His perception is not the only perception, and it doesn't matter who is "right" as much as it matters "how helpful is it to make that conclusion." Understand, BA? Here's a universal truth: nobody but you and your momma cares about your BA in philosophy.

[fuuuark]

Bro i know it's a shit degree, luckily my dad makes enough that i can do nothing with my life and be rich, reading in to that degree comment is laughable. Please tell me what rating has to do with it pragmatically. You have not actually said anything relevant. It isn't subjective, women trade for sex, that fits the definition of whore. The thing is, you can't bring an argument nearly as good to say women aren't whores (not even close to nearly), than there is saying women are whores.

[OlderAndWiser]

Obviously, you are right and you have the money to prove it. No, your daddy has the money to prove it. One more spoiled little rich kid. Since your daddy has money and you have a shitty attitude, I guess your experience probably does indicate that all women are whores, and you will probably never know anything any different. The most compelling argument that most women are not prostitutes is experience. . . and, in that department, you are obviously lacking, so there is no need for any further discussion.

[Asker]

Just attacking him and not the argument again, they will teach you this in a less specific sense as early as 10th grade biology (human monogamy being a trade off since 1% of men can knock up all the women, thus men have less sexual value and will have to offer more). But since you are 60, maybe you forgot, weren't listening, or there was a different syllabus. This is actually basic anthro and bio

[OlderAndWiser]

You two boys both hate women and you seem to be rather compatible. Good luck. by the way, I graduated with honors with a professional degree and I have a considerable amount of continuing education. You chastised me for attacking him and not his argument (only partially true) but did you not attack me? Take a few steps back and look at yourself, and then ask someone else to do that so you can get some objective feedback.

[Shaft50]

That's a rather jaded view of women... and if this is in fact the case, that 'men normally have to offer more than sex to get sex', this would either mean that we are now entering into a barter system (an exchange of goods for another), or that men have an inferior product in quality, size or demand, than that of women...

[Asker]

We do, 1% of men can knock up all women, so our sexual value is far less than theirs

[Shaft50]

Okay, so we have a bartering system?

[Asker]

yup, the monetary system, services, it's all a bartering system

[Shaft50]

Okay, so by your definition it's a bartering system, we trade sex for sex and sometimes, a bit more. Therefore, if women are prostitutes for entering into that bartering system, so too must men... we're all prostitutes, by your own definition. Thanks for that, man

[Asker]

Not when men are only trading sex, they aren't getting anything else, yours is an allegory not a definition

[Shaft50]

So, you hold fast to your stance that women are prostitutes, by your 'definition'?

[fuuuark]

As he said men aren't getting anything but sex, you have to trade something other than sex for sex for it to be prostitution, a derived benefit other than the act of sex itself.

[Shaft50]

So, if a guy was getting sex and something else, then he would be, by your definition, a gigolo?

[fuuuark]

If he requires that something else in order admit sex, then yes.

[Shaft50]

So, sex and a meal... he's a gigolo, plain and simple...

[fuuuark]

Read what i write, i said required to admit sex, he will still have sex with her if she gives him a meal or not. Stop desperately trying to find a loophole, you can find one in almost anything.

[Shaft50]

Because I am offended that you would deem my mother, even yours, a prostitute... so therefore I will find a loophole...

[fuuuark]

@RJGraveyTrain

[fuuuark]

If you want to play semantics, then women can fit the definition of whore "someone who has promiscuous sexual intercourse, usually for money" since they say usually, it means a women can fit the definition of whore by deriving any benefit from sex that isn't the act of sex itself, prostitute is one of the definitions of whores, so there you go, women are still prostitutes by definition. @RJGraveyTrain

[jmmmfi2]

I don't have to read the article to agree

[Anonymous]

Playing devil's advocate though, isn't that effectively what a marriage with traditional gender roles is- a contractual obligation comparable to a prostitution contract, but between two partners as opposed to several? The married man's traditional role in the relationship is to provide financial and social security for the woman, earning money himself and giving a share of it to her; the married woman's traditional role is to provide sexual comfort for the man, offering companionship and raising any progeny which may result from their sexual relationship (albeit doing so primarily through her husband's income).

Fundamentally, is there that much of a difference between being a wife, a sugar babe, and a prostitute? Not much- it's all essentially part of the same industry, that of selling/bartering the commodity of sex (and of the own sexual value of their own bodies) for financial and social gain. But each represents a different economic approach, and a different marketing system.

As such, not every woman is a prostitute, in the same way that not every seller operates in a laissez-faire free-market capitalist system. Most women effectively adopt the market socialist approach- seeking to have a complete and self-regulating system, and to prevent the underlying expropriation of surplus value (preventing their sexual partners from having sex with anyone else) present in other, exploitative, modes of production.

[Anonymous]

It's far worse than that, they are just out and out selective, they'll even turn you down if you have money. Horrible isn't it? It's almost like they want a guy who has his act together, sheesh!

[Asker]

how many times have you indirectly paid for sex?

[Opinion Owner]

Never. The woman I was with always wanted it more than me. I never put a woman under the slightest pressure for sex, even had they wanted to (and they didn't seem to) they had no bargaining position.

[Anonymous]

I would make a long comment but I am to tired and this is real bs

[Asker]

under 18 hahahahha, bro go learn basic biology, women sell sex for commitment and resources even if not consciously, learn bateman's principle, female arousal patterns, all of it, then tell me i am wrong.