So after 80/20 rule confirm to be true. i. e. Women have passionate/fun sex with small percentage of men only. Why do men bother?

[Anonymous]

Confirmation on mytake
https://www.girlsaskguys.com/sexual-behavior/a22977-girls-on-tinder-do-smash-a-lot

Why do men constantly put themselves out there to even bother pursuing women?

i mean come on. You really gonna white knight, show love and affection to a girl who wants you to waste, time/money/resources on her.

Meanwhile she's on tinder, or in real life giving it up freely, with top 20% guys she met on first date WHO. Who have to put in very little attention, or wordplay to make her drop her panties and have fun pornstar sex with her.

I think this Mytake has it right:
https://www.girlsaskguys.com/sexual-behavior/a22916-the-structure-of-the-dating-game-unwrapped-for-young-men-to-understand

Young men need to realize. The modern women see the average male as garbage who is only good for emotional support and resources.

[MrOracle]

The statistic is more-or-less true. 20% of the men are doing 80% of the women.

But what you probably don't realize is that it isn't nearly as hard as you think to put yourself in the 20%. Oh, sure, the guys who look like Brad Pitt fall in the 20% by default, and really wealthy guys do to, but that still leaves plenty of room.

You talk about "white knighting" and such, well, let me tell you the secret to getting at least SOME women to find you attractive: treat them like an acquaintance, not a friend. Don't go out of your way to do nice things for them. Never buy them a drink or meal before you date them. Don't take any crap from them, and don't be afraid to offend them a little - and don't apologize when you do. Be blunt about what you want (not crass or sleazy, just cocksure), and make it clear that you aren't interested in "being friends" - you think she's hot and you want to bang.

Some girls will get turned off. Some won't be attracted to you no matter what. SO WHAT? Forget about them, and focus on the others - some will HATE you at first, and think you're a jerk - but some of them will go home with wet panties thinking about you, and the next time they see you, they'll forget that they hate you and just want to bang. Others will be attracted to you immediately and will happily go home with you right then.

Those guys in the 20%? They aren't "too nice". They don't help girls move out of their apartment, and they don't buy drinks, and they don't generally pay for expensive dinners (unless they're from the ultra-rich segment, using their money to be in the 20%). Instead, they simply are unapologetically MEN, who like sex with attractive women. They don't complain, they don't dwell on girls who turn them down (or waste another second on them), and they don't try to "nice" their way into the girl's pants. They aren't jerks, but they aren't pushovers or whiners - EVER.

The choice of whether you want to be in the 20% or the 80% is totally up to you - but guys in the 20% don't make excuses. They don't care if their clothes are out of style, if their shoes have holes in them, or if they drive a pile of crap - and they don't apologize for any of it. They focus on success, not failure (even though they have both, just like anyone else).

Who are you going to be?

[Bandit74]

is there actually any proof that the 80-20 thing is true?

[MrOracle]

Well, no one has surveyed every living person of sexual maturity, no, but there have been a number of surveys that have come to a very similar conclusion, over the last 20+ years. And it also makes sense. Women know they can get sex anytime, anywhere, as long as they aren't picky about who they have it with. But that's the thing - women MOSTLY don't just want random empty sex; they want a RELATIONSHIP with an emotional connection, and that is, of course, much harder for them to find. But a large number of women DO make an exception when it comes to casual sex: men they find VERY attractive. This is a small percentage of men, though, but the men who fall in that group tend to be better-looking than average (not always, but often), and are almost always VERY confident and experienced with women. Women find that attractive, and so they will break their "relationship rule" for such men and have casual sex with them.

[Bandit74]

do you have links to any of those surveys?

[MrOracle]

@Bandit74 Here are a few articles, including one (the first one) by someone who has herself done research about this topic.

www.hookingupsmart.com/.../

abcnews.go.com/.../story?id=156921&page=1 (from 2004!)

www.examiner.com/.../the-80-20-rule-theory-explains-a-lot-of-today-s-problems-among-dating-singles

blog.okcupid.com/.../

jacksparadise.wordpress.com/.../

[Bandit74]

I've seen that first article before. Dosent she say that the 80-20 rule isn't true?

[MrOracle]

@Bandit74 Again, it's a generalization, not an exact statistic. No one ever seriously suggested otherwise, but it's GENERALLY true, though the exact numbers will vary from place to place. The bottom line is: a relatively small number of men are sleeping with a far, far larger number of women (a healthy majority of them, in fact). The articles explain why this is the case.

[Bandit74]

She says: "Rather, the data supports the idea that the numbers of promiscuous men and women are similar, though there are more promiscuous men than women. --Most likely, this population is sexually active with one another.--- For the vast majority of Americans who do not have a high number of partners either lifetime, or within the last year, the numbers are also similar, though again, men are more promiscuous."

[COCOCHANEL]

i think that is true actually.

[CT_CD]

Don't bother unless you're Chad