Should men be seperated from women on college campuses?

https://www.cnn.com/2015/09/22/health/campus-sexual-assault-new-large-survey/

^ Looks like they should separate men and women on college campuses, a whopping 23% have reported to have been raped on campus. Rape culture is very real, it's in our face and it's time for drastic measures, so I think colleges should consider seperating male and female students and keep them separate at all time because most men can't be trusted, especially the straigh, white, cis-gendered variety.

When I went to Uni, I was harassed by male classmates in a sexual manner and even groped a few times, 4 of my female classmates were raped, 1 by knife point and the male fraternities literally embraced rape culture and unhindered male behavior, calling it "primitivism". I've seen the true nature of men when left unsupervised, they don't act human and they don't value the well being of others because mommy and daddy aren't around and "It's time to PARTY!!!".

So I think it's time universities put up walls and keep men and women separate AT ALL TIMES. End the Co-ed lifestyle, crush campus rape culture.

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Of course MEN are going to disagree, I should have put this question up for Girls only. Men: Just a fair warning- Your opinions don't count, this is a women's issue.
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  • no. First of all, is this a serious research, or pseudo-science? It's not hard for me to get the same results.

    All i need to do is trick a bit with definitions.

    A drunk person can't concent, hence if a drunk person had sex he was raped/assaulted. Because he can't concent when drunk.

    It is also by a broad definitin rape if someone is forcing someone to have sex, against their will.

    now i can ask them 3 questions anonymously.

    1. Have you ever had sex with a woman while drunk on campus, voluntarily or not?

    2. Have you ever had a woman convince you to have sex with her, when you initially did not want to?

    3. Have you ever had sex with a woman, even if you didn't really want to?

    See, ANYONE answering "yes" to ANY of those three questions have per definition been the victim of sexual assault!

    ANd do you REALLY think that number won't hit 23% for men too?

    The result is pseudo-science portraying women as sexual deviants who can't keep their hands off men. Now, for the love of god, STOP USING FAULTY PSEUDO SCIENCE TO PROMOTE YOUR OWN AGENDA!

    Even in the same damn article there's professionals saying these shocking reports are unhealthy. Because by using too broad definitions of "unwanted sexual conduit" you're potentially even including something as simple as an unwanted kiss. Now, there's a MILE between an unanted kiss and rape!
    And that sensationalism is just hurting everyone, REAL victims of rape more than anyone else.

    So i'm just going to let based mom speak.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNsJ1DhqQ-s
  • This is absurd. For one it equates touching to rape. Furthermore its self reported therefore with out an ability to corraborate evidence it is meaningless then take into account the fact that its "unwanted" which could be anything to forced or (more likely) a man misreading the signs and going in for a kiss or touch thinking she is intereseted when she isn't which is completely different from intentionally forcing some one or rape. In addition by adding intoxication into this you are literally equating the vast majority of sexual situations as rape regardless of consent or to be more precise despite it. Its a flawed survey with flawed methodology. Its bias to the extreme which is evident in that it was not applied to men only women thus showing that we may in fact have a rape culture, one that ignores male victims of rape and sexual assualt/harassment outright. Also by claiming this is a womens only issue therefore men have no say nor the right to express an opinion you are being both sexist and illogical. Facts matter, not feelings not opinoins, facts. The fact is these surveys have been shown to be flawed again and again. They have the exact same design flawes as their predecessors and therefore do not do anything other then create a false idea of "rape culture" in order to further promote an agenda.

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  • Rapes generally take place between people who know each other, not random frat bros. Also, predatory rapists or serial killers often don't even attend the college (nursing school, etc) but just target them because of the number of young victims available. So I don't think separate campuses would help.

    I've been molested as a child and assaulted in my early 20s (common for people molested) and while I feel very intense rage at times, I still believe that to be the objective truth.

    What I do think needs to happen is that there is better access to mental health care and more real discussion about sexual abuse. Most rapists have some combination of abuse backgrounds and anger issues.

  • No fucking way, that is such a step backward I don't even know where to begin. The issue is not that you must keep men away from women, men are not rapists by nature and treating them all as a danger to women not only puts a stereotype on them, possibly enforcing such behaviours by publicly acknowledging them as a "male issue" but it will also put the idea across to women that we must be kept away, must be kept safe. Next you'll have us kept in cupboards and wearing burkas.

    What needs to change is society and we need to make sure people are safe, rape will always happen. Always. Social conditioning is what needs to improve.

    • On further reading I don't actually think you are a woman at all, or at least I don't think you believe this shit you're talking. It fits in way to0 well, it turns on too many lights, too many triggers. It's like you're trying real hard to make the perfect asshat feminazi statement and piss people off. I smell stinking troll, that's what I smell!

    • I agree, I think we're dealing with a troll trying to stir up antifeminist rage.

    • @Bysshe it's too good. Too 'on point'.

  • lol no. That's the most ridiculous attempt at solving the age-old problem of rape culture.

    Is the reasoning behind that that they think separating the sexes on campus will get rid of the desire to have sex and/or reproduce? As if the survival of our race was that fragile? That's laughable, really.

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  • I understand your line of thought, though I disagree with the conclusion.

    I also disagree that this is a women's issue exclusively, since the solution you are suggesting affects both men and women.

    First of all, avoidance does very little to prevent these kinds of incidents. If separating men and women was all that was needed to prevent sexual assault, there would be no cases of sexual assault in countries where men and women are kept separate. What you are suggesting is already done, in some strict Muslim countries, for example. However, it doesn't work to prevent assault, as sexual assaults still happen around the world.

    What needs to be done is to teach men not to fucking rape people. That's the bottom line. Not teaching men that simple thing means that putting women in one large cluster isn't going to help anything, as you are not addressing the root problem.

    The thing you seem to be missing is that a similar % of women have reported being sexually assaulted, period. 20ish% have been assaulted at college. 20ish% have been assaulted NOT at college. The college is not the factor that makes a person likely or not likely to be sexually assaulted. Separating men and women would have zero effect on the overall problem, because the same number of women are already being assaulted outside of the integrated campus situation. The only thing that will help, will be bringing that 20ish% number down. And bringing it down everywhere.

    It is impossible to teach women "don't be raped" because they aren't doing anything to cause it. Rape happens places where women don't drink. Rape happens places where women don't wear revealing clothes. Rape happens places that women do not have a lot of exposure to men. It's not anything the women are doing. To prevent rape, you need to stop men from raping. That's the bottom line. That is the solution. Segregation will have zero effect. Education is the only way to get the result you want.

    • firstly, the muslim countries has almost no rape issues in universities and even in their communities, that is because Islam has strict laws regarding this matter. secondly, America is famous with their education system and they are on the top list of the BEST education systems in the world. Education will not solve the problem. I assure you it is a community problem, cultural problem... teens try to lose their virginity before they become in the uni. cos it is shame to still virgin when u r above 18... nude pictures and sexy advertisements are driving guys crazy at that age. they pictured sex like a joy for both parts even without permission of one of these two parts. when you put a lighter beside a bottle of GAS what do you expect? ... sorry but i wanted to clarify this matter.

    • What do you mean Muslim countries have almost no rape issues? I would like to see where you are getting those stats, because the statistics I have seen certainly don't paint the same picture.

      Things like:
      womanstats.org/.../...leandsanctionofrape20113.png

      You are also misunderstanding what I mean by education. I do not mean that getting a degree in Random University Topic 7 is going to help prevent it. I mean actual education about sexual assault, how to prevent it, impact on victims... things that help reinforce why it is a problem and how to try to prevent it. Things to offset the misinformation like 'showing a sexy picture makes guys crazy'. I know a lot of guys who have seen a sexy picture and not turned around and raped a woman, because they are good humans and are not a bunch of power junkies with control issues.

      This is exactly the type of thing that needs education to combat. The thinking that seeing a sexy girl makes a man so unable to control himself, that it is like a flame to gas.

    • A guy who cannot control himself because he sees a picture of a sexy girl needs to realize the problem is with HIM. HE needs to get his self-control in check like the rest of humanity. He needs to stop feeling like he is somehow entitled to take what he wants, something that doesn't belong to him, because he lacks impulse control. THAT is the education I am talking about.

    • You should have snapped on this question! I love reading your arguments lol

    • @zorro8888 There is honestly no point at snapping at this question. The 1in5 has been debunked over and over again and this "new" study has at least one person from the old study along with it implying it probably has the very same flaws.

    • @zorro888 @FakeName123 There's no point it uploading on an obvious troll. And if they weren't, it would be a waste of time. 😋

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  • this is a very obvious troll post and frankly, i'm ashamed that you had to make it so obvious. you could have made it less fake. you could have tried just a little bit. you didn't

  • I disagree. We need more sex ed that's actually based on biological facts and acceptance, not shaming tactics and "abstinence". We also need courses that entirely cover the topic of consent and boundaries. PROPER EDUCATION is what's needed, not separation.

  • Rape isn't a women's issue.

    It's not a men's issue.

    It's a PEOPLE'S issue.

    Men can rape women. Women can rape men. Women can rape women. Men can rape men.

    Not sure treating an entire gender as the enemy for a crime that both genders can commit is the correct way to solve this issue.

    • AMEN

  • Telling men where we are and aren't allowed makes this a male issue. Women have fought to force there way into male only places for a long time, instead of just forming all female places. So you are actually going against the core principles of feminism. If you can't handle going to school with men, then you can't expect to ever work around men in a place of business so you would just be wasting your time going to school in the first place since you clearly won't be able to work with others.

  • my feeling is this... at some point we just have to grow up and mature. The rape issue is a major one but segregation doesn't really work. Why? it's stunts the maturation process for men and women to learn how to work in a co-ed universe. I mean at some point young adults have to learn how to appropriately interact between the sexes and separating them seems to not address the real issue which is the anti-social behaviors

    Rather than segregate we need to educate.

    • also I don't see how this is a women's issue. It's a human issue. Every man has to live amongst and interact with women. Every man could potentially have a daughter. So every man has to deal with this, unfortunately more often than not it's just the women who are victims but it doesn't mean it's only a women's issue

  • nope that seems pointless

  • Rape is a very serious and horrible thing. Also, lots (not all) of college guys are immature cavemen with no social skills. When you mix campus life with alcohol sometimes stupid and bad things happen.

    But what you suggest makes no sense whatsoever. The culture needs to change. Learning to socialize appropriately and live among the opposite gender is part of the college experience and basic growing into adulthood.

    I sincerely hope that you're not taking such a serious issue and using it to be an anonymous troll. If you are, you should punch yourself in the face.

    • It was the opposite at my college most not all of the girls were the immature ones and the guys were the mature ones.

  • You'd think all men were prowling monsters by the way some people describe their behaviour, jesus. There are bad eggs in every bunch, but that doesn't mean the whole bunch is bad.

    Your update really rubs me the wrong way: 'this is a women's issue', as if only women can be raped 😒

  • Don't worry I plan on getting castrated in s few months so I don't have the chance to rape a woman. Plus it will also destroy my libido, so I'll be able to focus on my studies and work. I believe every male should get castrated so they can't rape.

  • No. If you're in college I'm going to assume you're adults so act like it

    • Well if you've been watching the news not many in college act adult these days. Adults don't need "trigger warnings" and "safe spaces".

  • Anonymous surveys... garbage in equals garbage out.

    Never believe anonymous surveys on sexual assault. Some of the people filling them out don't even know what sexual assault really is.

  • Here in Brazil it doesn't happen often at all, it's really rare to hear about a girl who was raped on campus. All girls I know weren't raped and neither their friends and there are a lot of universities around the place I live.

    • Oh, I'm not denying that rape happens, I just think that there should be another way to prevent it, separating seems to drastic. The good guys will pay for the bad ones.

    • Were are girls raped in Brazil? Or has the word rape been abolished? Did girls learn to accept it as 'normal'?
      www.ipsnews.net/.../
      www1.folha.uol.com.br/.../...-in-piaui-state.shtml
      america.aljazeera.com/.../...ipeawomenculture.html

    • Journalist Nana Queiroz started a hashtag campaign: #NãoMereçoSerEstuprada (“I don’t deserve to be raped”). She subsequently received rape threats.

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  • Oh hell no I need to fill my snapchat with pics of hot guys and separting campuses will destroy that so fuck that.

  • Do you know how many people get raped in life in general? The fuck you gonna do about that? Separate genders totally? Stop the world from repopulating?

    It's not just a college problem.

    • 1 in 189 women are raped and its even lower of college campuses in america. there is no rape culture.

    • "Separate genders totally?" Yes that is what many feminists want to do, they want separate public transportation, hotels, and yes education. And no this isn't a few "bad eggs" on the fringe this is what feminists groups pay lobbyists to try and convince our politicians to pass as law!

  • Aww you're one of those "white men should be killed" feminazis xD
    Get out of here, you're ridiculous hahahaha
    I'm sure you're also that kind of woman who sleeps with a guy, regrets it the next morning, and calls it rape, like the bitch with the matress around campus.

  • You have got to be kidding me.
    That is the most blatently irrational, sexist and illogical thing I have ever seen.
    Guys and girls get drunk and hook up all the time. When a guy does it with a girl who is unattractive, he says "What the hell was I thinking?" and it's considered regret.
    When it happens to a girl, she gets to just call it rape?
    RAPE DOES NOT EQUAL REGRET.
    23% isn't even that large of a number. And when you consider whether or not they ACTUALLY were raped, that number would get even smaller.
    Seriously, I'm not going to put up with a society that casts men as the evil monsters the way this idiot does. And FYI this IS a men's issue because it's infringing upon their rights.
    Seriously, go read a book and inform yourself. Quit listening to these one-sided hypocrites about issues like this.

  • Ok. So you ask two questions in one and I am confused as to what question I am to answer through the answer options.
    "Should men be seperated from women on college campuses?" That's the title and therefore I must assume that it is the main question, to that I must say "nay." But at the bottom you say "... End the Co-ed lifestyle, crush campus rape culture. Any body agree?" On what particular question do you want answers? I would vote "yay", as in yes I also want to "crush campus rape culture."

  • No. That's not how the real world works. Men and women aren't separated in the workplace or out and about. What are you going to do... hide from the opposite sex your whole life?

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