How can you be Christian and gay/lesbian/bi etc. at the same time?

[Anonymous]

So I've always looked at girls but it never hit me that I was attracted to them I thought I liked only boys. I met this gorgeous lesbian girl who basically tried to seduce me but I never let her know I liked her because I would have lost my Christian straight friends. So I'm in an extremely conservative Christian environment and I told my mom I was bisexual ( I could never tell my dad.) she told me if I ever came home with a girlfriend I couldn't live at home anymore. She loves me a lot and she cried a lot when she said it but it still hurt. I stopped looking at fashion mags (I've never watched or read anything about being gay). And it still doesn't help. I have a crush on a guy and I think he likes me. I day dream about guys. But When I see a beautiful butch girl I feel attracted to her. So I have a crush on a butch girl at my school. It's really hard. I haven't told anyone else😔. My mom asked me how i could be bi and Christian at the same time. It says clearly in the bible homosexuality is wrong. I said I don't know. I love God but I have a connection with girls that I can't deny help!

[worldscolide]

Your situation is exactly why i have a huge problem with religion. It seeks to control every aspect of your life including but not limited to your sexuality. My view on it is this, If god cares so damn much about what i do in my bed, then he is not worthy to be my god.

Ok now for the other part. I dont remember seeing anywhere in the new testament where it says that being bi or homosexual is wrong, the only place i remember seeing it is in the old testament. That having been said, i know of several churches where i am from that are extremely LGBT friendly. Most of the Christians that i know are ok with it, and i have a 2 lesbian friends that are very christian.

The problem here is every one follows the bible, The bible was written more than 2000 years ago in a time where the human population was not nearly as big as it is now. During that time it was extremely important to have male female relations, purely for the survival of the race. Fast forward 2000 years and there are over 7 Billion people on the planet. It is not necessary any more, If you're gay Bi, or lesbian, the race will endure.

Be what you want, God will love you. If your parents can't take you the way you are, then screw them. It proves that they love their religion more than the flesh and blood girl that they have created.

[ksoma]

even if being gay is a sin (i don't believe it is), God reminds us that, though he expects the best from us, he also knows we are imperfect, and will sin.
That's the point of salvation, right? we are forgiven our sins.

So I suggest you try to live a moral life. And that includes not being promiscuous. But it does not mean shunning someone you could potentially love. If you find someone, and you love them, and could commit to them, and they are another woman, so what?

and if, in the end, being gay IS actually a sin? that is something between you and God, not between you and your mom or dad. God says it is his place to pass judgement. Not theirs.

[Asker]

I am very moral and believe in keeping myself puer

[ksoma]

then i don't think your sexual orientation, whatever it is, matters.

[Asker]

True

[Anonymous]

Of course. Yes, it's classed as s sin, but a sin doesn't mean you aren't a religion. How many people are sitting in jail and still religious? Tons, and they've all commited a sin in the eyes of God. And not just them, every human on the planet has sinned at some point, they're still whatever religion they choose to be. God knows you're human, you aren't jesus and you aren't God, you're going to sin. It's no human beings right to say which sin is worse than the other or say who has "rights" to claim a religion. After all, a prostitute even went to heaven. You can be anything and still be Christian. Doesn't mean it isn't a sin in Christianity though. But a sin doesn't mean you aren't a religion.

[Asker]

That's it exactly

[Anonymous]

Im not sure how old you are but you do have a choice in being religious or not. Your parents because you are under age can't legally kick you out. Loving and caring parents would NOT throw you out over being bi. Im not religious based on everything I have heard on how they treat people who dont live by their standards. Only you can decide on your religious beliefs and if you are attracted to both girls and guys then that is your business. I would think any loving god would accept you for you anyways. If you love god and he or she loves you then they will accept you.

[Asker]

My parents really do love me and they sacrifice a lot for me. They've motivated me to reach high and without them I would have been unsuccessful and no where near where I am now. They just believe that it's wrong. It's my personal struggle, everyone has different struggles. I just have to work mine out

[Opinion Owner]

you're right we all do have our own struggles. Your parents will love you no matter what, just always be you.

[Anonymous]

Yes, being attracted to the same sex is against Christian morals. It's just like those who struggle with porn, and other sins. You know you're not supposed to like females, since you are one, being a Christian. Try talking to someone from your church, read the bible, do something if you take your religion serious. You're not a terrible person by the way. I've seen "Christian" females who brag about being Christian and post bible verses,, but out in the real world they behave the complete opposite of what they clame to be. I will pray you find guidance!!

[Asker]

Thanks I know that's what I need to do but it's hard.

[Opinion Owner]

Hard doesn't mean impossible :) good luck, I wish you the best!

[Asker]

Thanks 😄

[tinyclit]

You're fine. Nothing wrong with you. Sounds like you're in the wrong church and your mom is brainwashed. There are plenty of Christian churches out there with good people who will welcome you wholeheartedly. Please let the bigoted churches die off from lack of attendance.

[randomhobo]

God makes everyone with a plan. If he truly is the creator of all as your religion believes, that means he made you bi for a reason and accepting that and dating both girls and boys is a way to fullfil gods intended vision. At least thats my interpretation of it. Don't get hung up over the gay hate, it's silly and contradictory and if all sins are equal its no more of a sin than eating shellfish.

[Asker]

Yeah I know but it says in the bible that homosexuals won't go to heaven. And by the way I totally agree with you but there is facts. Besides my dad was raped by a homosexual man when he was little boy so if I tell him I'm gay it'll break his heart. Hell probably kick me out. Plus all of my friends would desert me and I'm homeschooled and I go to college 2x a week so I wouldn't have anywhere to go. That girl I like thinks I don't like her. I caught her checking me out but she saw me talking to a straight girl and she ignores me. I would love to go to a gay bar (NOT to drink,) just to meet other girls but I don't have any connections so.. Sorry for venting..😐

[randomhobo]

The bible says a lot of things and nowhere in it does it say that homosexuals dont go to heaven. Thats an American conservative interpretation. Jesus was all about "treat thy neighbour" and god is supposedly benevolent. If he is then living the life of a good person who happens to be gay is better than living the life of a bad person who's straight.

[Asker]

I'll have to do some more research but for now I'll trust your advice

[Josht11]

Well I'm not christian but I am bi and I'd think why would god create gay people etc and not expect them to be gay. Secondly most christians cherry pick parts of the bible and only really in the old testament is gays talked about but there's also a passage about you shouldn't eat shellfish can't wear two types of fabrics so you might as well discount that whole thing.

[H2OBearer]

Shellfish is a part of the mosaic law which was created during the time Moses walked the Earth. We don't live in those days now since Jesus declared all foods clean and said "I have not come to abolish the laws but instead fulfill them".

[Josht11]

@H2OBearer man i'm not christian.

[Asker]

There are old laws in the Old Testament (one even says by to braid your hair) but they are thrown away. But there's a verse in the New Testament that says homosexuals, murders, fornicators... Won't be allowed into heaven. I'm bi too but there's no way to dispute that.

[Josht11]

I really don't even give a fuck I'll just continue being bi I cant' be arsed to come up with a reason for Christianity.

[Waffles731]

And that part of the bible was originally about prostitution

[Waffles731]

Maybe god hates shelfish because that shit is nasty.
HAVE YOU SEEN A LOBSTER
www.all-creatures.org/articles/ar-lobster-02.jpg
The fuckers look like cockroaches, they disgust me, and considering I'm from massachusetts, if ANYONE tells me to hand in my Yankee card, I will personally hunt you down and beat the shit out of you, That enough of a yankee for you

[Intraluminal]

@H2OBearer But don't forget he also said he came to fulfill every tittle and not of the laws.

[PippiL]

I think it depends on the faith in question.
Some religions don't classify same sex attraction as a sin, but they do classify acting upon that attraction as a sin. So technically you could be gay and as long as you weren't in a homosexual relationship, you would be okay.

[Intraluminal]

Well, there's two separate issues here. First, finding the same sex attractive is not the same thing as being gay, especially for girls since society emphasizes female attractiveness so heavily. Secondly, the Bible does indeed hold that homosexuality is an abomination, but the Bible is a work of fiction written 2 or 3 thousand years ago.

[Asker]

I disagree on your last part but your first observation was kinda brilliant and something I didn't think of. I don't dream about sleeping with girls, just kissing them/being in a relationship. Girls bristly is emphases and maybe it's just a phase for me. I hope so. It's hard to date and be bi. (I've never kissed a girl or a guy or dated even tho I get a lot of attention from both genders).

[Intraluminal]

Here's an idea to try. Get a pen and paper. Make a line down the middle. Put a heading guys on one side and girls on the other. Now go and watch your usual TV shows or Internet for a couple of hours. Every time you see something that says women are attractive or sexy put an S in the girls column, every time you see something that implies girls are kissable put an I the column. Do the same for guys. Let me know what you find out, but I'll tell you that I imagine you will find that you are *bombarded* with messages about attractiveness and women.

[Asker]

It's true. Guys aren't as sexualized

[Asker]

It's a smart move girls will pay money to look like that and guys will pay to get girls like that.. It's a smart move

[jacquesvol]

I'd ask it in another way:
"How can you be gay/lesbian/bi etc and Christian at the same time?
Do you feel the difference?
gays/lesbians/bis don't hate Christianity. But religions hate or don't accept gays/lesbians/bis.

[Notreallyhere]

Best answer

[Waffles731]

"But religions hate or don't accept gays/lesbians/bis." Thats not true, there are plenty of religions that accept gay people

[Notreallyhere]

@Waffles731 name one😒

[Waffles731]

@Notreallyhere How about four Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) Lutheranism (Hell they have gay pastors) United Church of Christ Episcopalian.

[Waffles731]

@Notreallyhere Or four more denominations Church of Denmark Church of Sweden Church of Iceland Church of Norway

[Notreallyhere]

@Waffles731 *sigh* oh wow such a large group of Christians there. The Catholic Church still doesn't accept homosexuality,. 1.2 billion members. MOST Christians in general condemn it. All of Islam rejects gays in fact many kill them. 1.4 billion. That's nearly half of the world religious population, shall I go on?

[Waffles731]

@Notreallyhere Reform Judaism and Reconstructionist Judaism in North America and Liberal Judaism Zoroastrianism (Its a very old religion as in older than christianity old yet has a few adherents, Freddie Mercury was one.) However, many Zoroastrians, termed "reformists", eschew the teachings of the Vendidad as corruptions of Zoroaster's original message, Wicca Neopagan religion Paganism American Indian traditional religions

[Waffles731]

@Notreallyhere "MOST Christians in general condemn it." not where I'm from.

[Waffles731]

@Notreallyhere Unitarian Universalism There is no single official position on homosexuality in Taoism, as the term Taoism is used to describe a number of disparate religious traditions. Really just get off your high horse

[Notreallyhere]

@Waffles731 how about Uganda, Nigeria, the Middle East, Russia, I can name countries too but the fact is most people who are religious do not accept homosexuality.

[Waffles731]

@Notreallyhere Well you can clearly name countries as you already did with uganda and nigeria

[Waffles731]

In 2009, the Christian organization Barna Group did a survey and concluded that 60 percent of gays and lesbians consider religion a huge part of their lives, despite the whole "having pretty much everything going against them" thing.

[jacquesvol]

@Waffles731 @Notreallyhere Of course, there's the Roman Catholic Church covering up its legion of pedophile boy abusing priests and bishops. One can say they're not against pedo-homosexuality.

[Asker]

So true

[Waffles731]

But, there are plenty of denominations that will accept you for who you are :)

[jacquesvol]

@Notreallyhere
The RC church accepts a lot: www.wsj.com/.../two-pennsylvania-bishops-hid-hundreds-of-child-sex-abuse-cases-report-says-1456848570
wonkette.com/.../joseph-ratzingers-bishops-too-much-boy-rapin-or-not-enough

[jacquesvol]

More: www.nydailynews.com/.../...house-article-1.1285660

[Waffles731]

Its completely fine. God made gay people the way they are, why punish them for it

[Waffles731]

There are plenty of denominations that accept gays, you might want to consider switching Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) Lutheranism (Hell they have gay pastors) United Church of Christ Episcopalian. But there are plenty. I do hope you find your own views. :) Me, I'm spiritual but not religious, I only found any form of spiritual contentment when I moved away from organized religion, I believe in a god but not from any religion.

[jacquesvol]

God made gay people the way they are, punish him for it.

[ThatBritishLad]

Well yes. What.

[OrangeBoy]

That means God allow people to be it. So, it's the right thing for him...

or her. God can ber a woman! And meybe even lesbian !!!

[JohnMike999]

God hates gays.

[Asker]

It's people like you that God hate

[JohnMike999]

Yeah, gimme a reason please.

[Asker]

Because God wants us to love and respect everyone. And you're condemning others when you have your own faults as well. No one is perfect enough to criticize someone like that unless they're perfect. So only God can

[JohnMike999]

Look, i dont wanna argue because i'm too tired. Just answer this question, does god hate gays or not?

[LordBlakeh]

God seems to be the one condemning.

[Asker]

He doesn't hate anyone but he hates sin. Homosexuality may/may not be a sin, but so is judging someone else and having the arrogance to predict their future (that they'll go to hell etc). a person places themselves in the position of God when they do that

[Lithium65]

You have free will and God is love and mercy itself. God hates no-one.
You know it's not ok ultimately it's between you and God. None are perfect.
Thoughts are different than actions, but think you're a little young to say you're "bi".

[H2OBearer]

You can't have both. Choose God, or choose to submit to sin which in your case is homosexuality.

[Asker]

I don't know it's hard

[H2OBearer]

It is hard. Even I am going through something similar as well. We don't know when Jesus will come and on that day that he goes will you want to be lying in bed with that girl? It's very easy to just go with it but the more we give in the harder it'll be to face God on the day of judgment. You haven't forgotten yet have you? Nothing has tempted you beyond what you can bare. God will not abandon you. I will pray for you tonight, I promise. If you ever need someone to talk to just give me a shout.

[idiotmanchild]

Realize that there are other stupidly outdated rules in the Bible that are not applicable to today's world. Also, if Jesus is really the man that he was described as and the God is the merciful loving God that you learned about as a child, then they should have no problem with it.

[skeptic007]

milo yiannopoulos
he is gay and he has admitted he wish he wasn't gay
but he accepts that he is a sinner, and even being born again
doesn't mean the person stops sinning the difference is the person is aware of it and tries to avoid it best they can and GOD understands

now if the person believes GOD wants them to be gay that's stupid and a lie

[skeptic007]

but at the end it is a choice

[Asker]

Yeah that's what my parents think

[skeptic007]

well let me ask you this question now throw away feelings when i ask this am I a women?

[Asker]

I don't know you didn't state your sexual preference. Sex is biological /what were born with. Gender roles are what we want to be or orientation. That's from my psychology class from a straight unbiased professor

[skeptic007]

you didn't answer my question you are adding feelings to what im saying am I a women?

[skeptic007]

so you gonna answer my question?

[LordBlakeh]

Then you have no business being Christian. It's clearly said in the bible that homosexuality is a sin.

[gornlulz]

depends. the bible is false.

[FamilyStranger]

I'm a Christian. You could say this to your mom, "We all sin. Love the Sinner but don't love the sin." That might get you grounded dough.

Personally I think you need to get away to be by yourself and take an NKJV Holy Bible and a Christian Music.

[Anonymous]

you can't... sorry it's a sin

[Anonymous]

The bible is man made, so dont believe everything you read in it. And if god is all migthy and forgiving he will love you no matter what.

[Anonymous]

Seriously, show me any christian (besides the pope and his strongly believing followers) who cares about what the Bible says in that case.