What about lesbians? How is it that lesbians going into the women's bathroom is not a problem but a woman in a man's body is? You are being paranoid.
Sounds like an apples and oranges comparison. Cars aren't analogous to thinking, intelligent, sentient human beings.
@heavenonearth Right you are. It's even more difficult to transplant a soul!
I had a ship. Over the years I had to replace parts of it. Until one day I realized none of the part of the ship is the original. Would that ship be the same ship I bought years ago? If not then at what point did the ship change to another ship?The soul is also interesting. Does a soul have a gender? How would anyone know if a soul can be transfered or switch places with each other? If we all spirits, experiencing the physical world through a corpse then could we swap the ride once in a while? Who would know about it?
@oddwaffle I'm pretty sure that transgender people get a VERY SMALL fraction of their parts replaced, and all of their experience and history stays with them, so your analogy is inapposite.
True enough. However, the difference between a man and a woman is also really small. We have much of the DNA, just arranged differently. More or less different models number of the same printer line.For example, you can have two printers of the same model and one of them prints color and slower while the other has black and white but faster. Under certain conditions, you can modify one printer to do the function of the other and you can certainly strip the cover to make them look similar. It's not perfect obviously but close enough to serve your purpose.
@oddwaffle In this matter, it is not significant that men and women both have 10 fingers and 10 toes, 2 eyes, 2 arms, hair on their head, elbows in the middle of their upper limbs, 32 teeth, etc.
Nipples. Men have nipples but serve no function. A number of things on human can be attribute to sexual dimorphism (difference between sexes of the same species). Primates also look similar to humans, if you are counting toes and teeths, but they are at best ink jet vs laser printer. Men and women are closer to each other (in terms of similarities) than primates and human and certainly much more than fish and human.You were using BMW and Volkswagen is like comparing gorilla and human. They are too different. While it seems interesting, the logic behind is a weak comparison. If you use two cars with the same model and manufacture with only a minor difference in marketing (like urban vs suburban markets) then you only need to modify a little bit to change one to the other.
@oddwaffle So you think that if a guy has sex change surgery, that he is then indistinguishable from a female?
Depends on how much quality is given to the transformation as well as the shape of the guy. Then it also depends on how deep you prod to 'distinguish' the difference. There are 3 major things that makes up the difference between men and women when you want a sex change. #1 bone structure, #2 hormones and #3 sexual organs. You can't do much with the bone structure but you can do #3 and #2. These things will change the shape of a person and can influence his or her thoughts.Does that make a man a real woman or vice versa? No. You can't change the bone structure or the chromosomes (which regulate the hormones); the hormones is temporary and can be expensive. Can you get close enough to be indistinguishable in day-to-day contact? Yes. At the lease, you are blurring the line enough to make the question - at what point does a person become a woman or man?
@oddwaffle So you wish to ignore the psychological component and the experiential component?
It's hard to analyze the psychological part because humans already can't tell the difference between gender on the internet (you are on GaG, how many people managed to fake it?). If you keep digging then you will have to separate the physical traits such as genetics and hormones that have critical influence on psychology and decision making from whatever that is left after you remove the cold logic.Experimental? What experimental and what is the significant of it over transgender?
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Wouldn't they use the men's room since that is their preferred gender?
@musicbrain5 So the MTF should be using the male restroom while the FTM should do that too? What you do think the male restroom is?
I read your post wrong at first, sorry.
You are so right !How is it that nobody is concerned about gay people looking at their junk but they suddenly are about transgenders? I don't understand what the fuss is about. What if transgenders could go in any bathroom. Who would give a shit and why? Actually, there should be a women's bathroom and an everybody else's bathroom, this way, problem solved. If you are not sure, don't go into the women's bathroom cause they freak out for nothing. Women's bathrooms are filthy anyway.
@JuicyBrain haha agreed 100%
Also, watch out for those "social experiments". A lot of the time their only interest is getting a ton of views, so they disproportionally show the most extreme reactions out of people.
type it into youtube and lots should come up
@thewanderingme I don't hang around in the girls bathroom.
that's not what I heard ;)
I think it could actually be dangerous for a female to male to use a men's bathroom
@thewanderingme OK, i won't tell the others my wife caught you there.
Really, these days some people have a toilet obsession and a transgender obsession. Like they're thinking the whole day about what could happen if TGs go in a toilet.Man, man, man.media0.giphy.com/media/mWMML2LQBsj8k/giphy.gif