Why do guys thinks its ok to come out of nowhere and start grinding their dick on women's butts?

[Anonymous]

Me and my friend were in some club and literally no guy ever asked us if we wanted to dance with them, they just came up behind us and starting grinding on us. This was from black, white, latino, Asian guys. All guys did it. It was so annoying and disgusting how they literally can't even ask a girl if she wants to dance before they try to jump on her.

I've noticed this behavior is actually really common. Iwant to bring a knife with me if we go again, because apparently she loves it, while I hate the place as I do most clubs cause literally no one knows how to act right. But literally this things happens everywhere. School parties, clubs, bars, high end places, etc..

Next time a guy thinks its ok to put his crusty penis on my butt, and start grinding me, he'll have a big surprise waiting for him when he gets stabbed in the leg. Fuckin right I'm serious. I'm tired of their gender in general, cause literally every guy does it. Their male entitlement to female bodies is so beyond disgusting and they need to be put in their place. And if they want to start a fight after I gave them that warning shot to back the fuck off me, quick stab to the throat will handle them indefinitely.

[ElissaDido]

I only go to classy parties so I don't have to deal with this. When I lived in the Middle East it never happened to me and I've been to many High school parties, guys were actually very classy and respectful. They danced in a tasteful manner and didn't invade your private space (unless they were in a couple with the girl and both wanted it) so I can't really usually relate to what you say BUT...
I have been to 1 party here in France (university party) and it traumatized me, I thought they would be as good and tasteful as the ones I used to attend in the Middle East but I was extremely disappointed. People (men and women) were acting like animals, guys groping girls boobs, even girls coming to us and trying to grope our boobs, pissing everywhere, throwing up everywhere , people fucking everywhere , passing out on the floor. Ew. I just stopped going to parties here.

[Anonymous]

I find this happens when I'm with certain girls. Other times, they come and ask to dance, not doing this disrespectful shit. So, was one or more (or all) of your group either dressed or acting slutty? and giving the impression guys don't have to approach with respect.

But, it does also depend on the club. Certain clubs attract certain types of people, and sometimes those are bummy people with no sense of how a civilised society works and do this nasty shit. Other clubs attract other types who are better behaved.

[Opinion Owner]

Also, loads of those "ladies free before 10" clubs nights, they attract the worst guys.

[Asker]

It happens no matter which way we're dressed. It happens everywhere for us. The fact that your blaming women for dressing a certain way is problematic, but at least you understand it's problematic unlike most of the fucktards on here. Typical male response " Girls like it" " If you don't like it, then don't go out" Can they please just be removed from the planet

[Opinion Owner]

Not blaming women, because those guys still made that choice. But it's common sense that people make assumptions based on what you're wearing. That's why a lawyer guy won't represent you in court wearing a tank and shorts. Running round half naked commands the wrong type of attention and attracts the wrong sort of guys who are not really looking at you as anything but sexual. The way we dress and carry ourselves makes a huge difference. Not just for women, for guys to. Like how many of us would take a guy for a serious relationship if he had his ass hanging out all the time and dressed like a bum? We wouldn't even get to know him with the intention of a relationship when we saw him. Other things maybe, but not the guy you're taking home to your parents. Not just dressing, how people act too by the way.

[Asker]

A woman can dress any which way she wants, even sexually but its common deceny to treat anyone regardless of how they're dressed with respect. I'm tired of this mindset that if you're "dressed like a hoe, you get treated like a hoe" That's so fucking disgusting and problematic. How about you treat everyone with respect regardless of how they're dressed. Someone's attire does not give you the right to treat them any kind of way. It doesn't matter if a girl is a hoe in real life or not, everyone deserves respect regardless.

[Opinion Owner]

Everybody, well most people, do deserve respect. But facts are, everybody dresses in what they personally think is good, and what we choose does say something about us. Which is why most women wouldn't be bringing a guy like I described in my example home to their parents or seeing him on the street and assuming he'd be a great boyfriend to have. Girls dress is no different. And realistically, more than half of the girls who dress like or act like a hoe would have no problem or actually enjoy that kinda attention from guys, I see it all the time and they're just giggling and acting like it's flattering because they're pretty instead of because they're naked. So, same way we'll assume a guy dressed like a thug is a thug, we can assume a girl dressed like a hoe is a hoe.

[Asker]

You missed the point. A girl can be a hoe all she wants, but regardless you SHOULD ASK before you decide to dance on someone. Regardless of their perceived sexuality, you should ask someone to dance before you start grinding on them. You cannot just someone's ability to consent away like that. Regardless of their hyper-sexuality or lack there of. Its about respect for people in general, regardless of how their dressed.

[Opinion Owner]

I do agree with that, and I did say in one of the first replies that nobody forced those guys to behave like that. I'm not excusing their behaviour, but I'm saying we as girls can do stuff to try and avoid it. It's like when I was younger, I did some dumb shit and got into really bad situations that wouldn't have happened if I'd not made certain choices. I'm lucky everything worked out, but i put myself in danger by going to the wrong places or being around the wrong types of people. So if anything really serious had happened to me, not just the smaller situations I faced, or the situations I somehow managed to get out of, there would be no excusing whoever did it, but my choices also had led me directly to the situation. Nobody has any right to do anything to anybody, or treat others badly, but as normal people, we should try to avoid it ourselves and demand more respect from those who don't give it. Dressing and acting properly is part of that.

[Asker]

No, women and anyone should be able to dress any which way they want and be able to get respect because they are human beings first and foremost.

[falafelany1]

"Next time a guy thinks its ok to put his crusty penis on my butt, and start grinding me, he'll have a big surprise waiting for him when he gets stabbed in the leg."

I cringed so hard, but I laughed.

No but seriously I understand your frustration. It is an uncomfortable situation. Tell them off but please don't stab them.

[Asker]

They need to be stabbed. I'm stabbing

[falafelany1]

I don't have enough time in the day to try to convince you not to stab someone so I will just wish you the best of luck and maybe talk to a counselor about this. I am not being rude I just think these are very intense feelings.

[SmokemJay]

I don't know growing up in a jamaican family I've done it at parties and women don't complain nor do they care... Every female is different... Just tell them no.

My sister has told me that women get their breasts and asses rubbed up on and that shocked me a little to find that out, thats borderline sexual assault... and creepy I wouldn't go out if I was a female...

[Asker]

This is bullshit. Instead of just asking to dance you think its ok to put your crusty dick on people's ass

[SmokemJay]

Its not bullshit... Every culture is different. Women make it evident when they want to be danced with and when they don't, its all about reading body language. If Im dancing and a female is dancing and she keeps staring at me and WE ARE BOTH dancing in each others direction I'm going to dance with her... You probably don't get out often...

[Asker]

YOU ASK HER IF SHE WANTS TO DANCE YOU STUPID BITCH. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THEIR CONSENT

[SmokemJay]

Nah they never complain... thats just you. Take your head out of your ass. there's nothing special about you, soon you'll be old and begging for attention.

[SmokemJay]

If they keep grinding and dancing making nasty faces and their loving it there is no problem. The only people who have this problem are men that approach women unsure of themselves not ME... Your putting your experience into the equation, not every female is like you...

[uknaked]

They enjoy it, so their twisted logic makes them think you will!

[Asker]

Finally, a non-fuckboy who makes sense.

[Derpyy]

I WOULD say good luck and I'll see you in jail...

But I'm not insane.

[truthbeknown]

Go to the library next time.

[Asker]

i should be able to go where i want without being sexually assaulted.

[truthbeknown]

Yes, you are right. That is generally accepted behavior at clubs like that. You really should be going somewhere else for dancing.

[Asker]

the fact that its accepted is where it needs to stop, because it happens everywhere. i plan on changing that. got my knife ready

[truthbeknown]

Yes, I have read some of your comments. Again, if you feel they have hurt you by grinding with you and stabbing them is justified, then you have aggression issues and that club isn't for you. Again, no court of law would ever convict them of any sexual offence, because they haven't committed any, but you will be convicted of attempted murder. Further it will increased to premeditated attempted murder because you already stated you will have your knife ready for when it happens and you are planning on it. I am telling you right now, grinding is normal at those clubs. Stabbing isn't. Go to the library next time!!!

[Asker]

Grinding your penis on someone's behind without their consent is sexual assault. The fact that you don't know this, just shows how much of an idiot you are. Oh trust me, this is going to happen a lot more often since men can't seem to understand basic human decency and respect. Stabbing someone in the leg isn't attempted murder, that's just warning shot.

[truthbeknown]

Never seen anyone grind at the library.

[Curmudgeon]

Wow. I never thought of being so blunt. I usually found clubs utterly unappealing. Too loud to talk and I could not dance. Perhaps their grinding is to compensate for their inability to dance?

Typical nighclub outing in my past:

Me (shouting above din): "CAN I BUY YOU A DRINK?"

Her: "WHAAAT?"

[thecalmerface]

so you're almost fifty and act like a kid? haha.

[Curmudgeon]

@thecalmerface That was me 25-30 years ago. I don't go to clubs anymore. Keywords: "in my past".

[thecalmerface]

i don't believe that, but that's cool.

[Curmudgeon]

@thecalmerface Believe what you want to believe. Just don't waste your time on the club scene.

[sammypants]

Idiot

[Asker]

aww you afraid my plan might catch on and you're creeper fuckboy ass will get stabbed

[AleDeEurope]

Because most girls in clubs don't complain and like it.

[Asker]

Who are most girls? Most girls don't like it at all

[AleDeEurope]

Emmm yeah they do xD I've been to clubs and festivals, and unless the guy is ugly, I saw no girl complaining when an attractive guy came up and danced with them.

[Asker]

No, girls complain all the time about this. How hard is it to ask to someone to dance before trying to grind your penis on them

[AleDeEurope]

They complain to you to not look bad, but when it happens, they keep on grinding on him. Ffs, even girls just come up to you and grind on you, not as often, but it happens.

[falafelany1]

Just because she doesn't complain doesn't mean she likes it.

[AleDeEurope]

@falafelany1 Well, if she keeps on grinding on you, I think it's quite a good indicator that she likes it, no? I mean, why would you put any effort into something you dislike?

[falafelany1]

Maybe some do like it but many women do not. It is a social thing that they feel obligated to take part of because he just started touching her without asking. She feels she has to go along with it so she doesn't make a scene or seem like a prude. Plus there is alcohol involved. If you want to be sure a woman likes it, ask her to dance and if she says yes then that is a better indicator of her feelings.

[AleDeEurope]

@falafelany1 They seem to have no problem saying no to the ugly dude xD I get it, not every girl likes it, but the majority in clubs do. There's no feeling of being obligated or not seen as a prude, that's bullshit, especially when there's dozens of people around her who will take her side if she complains about the guy.

[Asker]

@falafelany1 There's really no way to get through to these idiots. I'm telling you. This is how men are. They only understand what they like regardless of how women feel about it. They feel entitled to women's bodies, and even when we say we don't like it. They find some way to throw the blame on us. This is why I'm done trying to reason with them, about why they don't have rights to my body. I'm done. Next time it happens, they're getting stabbed or killed plain and simple. Until more women reach my mindset this rape culture won't end.

[AleDeEurope]

You're just bitter cause you're ugly and only get ugly guys grinding on you. Stop whining.

[Asker]

Yes, i'm ugly. This is why I'm complaining about rape culture and sexual assault that I experience everyday. smh... Seriously, @falafelany1 they don't care to understand. This cave man mindset is too deep embedded in the culture. Violence is the only thing they respond to. Stabbing and shooting them is the only way to give them that wake up call.

[AleDeEurope]

Don't worry, you'll never get raped.

[Asker]

What a dumb reply. I've actually almost been raped several times. But thankfully i workout and run fast and was able to either outrun them or fight them off.

[AleDeEurope]

Sure you have ;)

[Asker]

Also being raped isn't about beauty. Its about power and control over someone. Which is why prison rape is so common

[AleDeEurope]

But there's a limit... even sick rapists have a limit.

[SmokemJay]

This girl doesn't get out much...

[Mesonfielde]

Because you're in a club, and in a club that's what people do duh

[Asker]

that's what creepers and fuckboys do.

[Mesonfielde]

It's a club, if you don't like what people do in clubs then don't go to clubs, duh

[Asker]

it happens everywhere!!! how many times do i have to say this

[Asker]

also saying people shouldn't go out because if they get sexually assaulted it's their fault is really disgusting and you need to be shot

[GingerGuy]

I can't believe how bold some people are, especially guys. I couldn't ever bring myself to just "force" myself on someone like that. I understand the desire totally lol, but could never actually do it.

[Chico_brah]

Would grind my dick up against OPs butt / 10

[Asker]

You grind my knife in chico's throat out/10 :)

[Chico_brah]

Sounds kinky. Want to fuck?

[Cosytoasty]

Calm your tits. If you want, you can report them to the bouncers then they'll get warned or removed, you want to commit murder over it? Then you're insane.

But "I hate the place as I do most clubs cause literally no one knows how to act right", why do you keep going back to them?

[Asker]

Literally everywhere I go is the same thing. I just want to go dance and be left alone. If it means stabbing someone to defend myself from sexual assault. Then so be it. Less fuckboys on the planet

[Toad-1]

Jesus you're crazy

[Asker]

@Toad-1 Of course. A woman decides to protect herself from sexual assault and men say she's crazy. Please when fuckboy species die off

[Toad-1]

Go ahead and attempt to explain in court that what you did isn't murder before throwing your man hating ass in prison

[Asker]

@Toad-1 Self defense from someone sexually assaulting me, isn't murder. Actually in my state its perfectly legal.

[Toad-1]

Uh huh but to most witnesses in the club they are only gonna see some crazy chick committing murder.

[Asker]

@Toad-1 Some "crazy" chick defending herself from a man sexually assaulting her

[Toad-1]

That's not how most people on the dance floor will see it. But go ahead and try it...

[Asker]

@Toad-1 Oh I will and it will be fun

[Bandit74]

Have fun in jail.

[Asker]

Can't go to jail for protecting myself from sexual assault. Check the laws in your state, and in mine I'm just fine

[Toad-1]

You will you'll rot in prison

[Stevan7]

Thats sick

[JSmuve]

Geez woman, you should spend more time in a padded room and less time out in public.

[Asker]

so i'm crazy for not wanting to be sexually assaulted? this is rape culture at its finest. saying women are crazy for not wanting unwanted sexual fondling and grabbing. boys like all of you need to shot or shipped to an island where you can just rape and fondle each other

[JSmuve]

No, you're crazy for saying you're going to stab someone in the leg and throat when simply walking away would suffice, you fucking quack.

[Asker]

walking away doesn't suffice at all. they GRAB ME! many of course like to go into my underwear as well. God, can society please just ship all of you somewhere else or just place a firing squad on your asses.

[Derpyy]

"You fucking quack." Omfg I cannot BREATHE. Thank you for that.

[JensonStatement]

I don't. I have that respect but gets put there on the doormat section.
It's common in some countries. I've never known of the Asian section.
For now people now want to dance jamaican things of other Caribbean countrydances and there it's common.

Some women like it because they horny or whore or think this is what they call "first step from a guy."

[AlwaysBelieving]

It isn't. It's just what society has "deemed" as acceptable in my opinion. From what I can remember, I've never done that (I was more the raver type). My question to you is why do you go to these places?

Side note:
https://cdn.meme.am/instances/56147738.jpg

[Asker]

It happens everywhere. So you're saying i shouldn't be go out with my friends, because guys of course need to ruin everything, instead of just learning how to behave themselves?

[AlwaysBelieving]

I don't think I said that you shouldn't go out with your friends. If I did, I needed to be clearer then.

Yeah: 2:10 - 2:20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU3Xban0Y6A

[Asker]

That was dumb af

[AlwaysBelieving]

I try

[Blitzkrieger]

Thats a modern mating dance. Its litterally thousands of years old. All cultures do it even ultra conservative ones, i dont know whats wrong with you.

[Blitzkrieger]

Its how people signal that they are ready for mating. Its a compliment for you.

[Asker]

It's not a compliment at all.

[Blitzkrieger]

I will never understand women like you.

[Asker]

Women like me who don't like being sexually assualted. Oh yes we're so weird and problematic

[Blitzkrieger]

Why do go to clubs then? These are known hook up places.

[Asker]

You can hook up with people but ask them to dance before hand? Why is it so difficult for guys to understand they SHOULD ASK before trying to dance with someone. Would you like it if someone guy came up behind you and starting grinding his dick on your butt? Then when you object his response be, well this is a hook up place if you don't like it, you should leave.

[Blitzkrieger]

if they didn't ask me for my consent i would just laugh my ass off at him and ridicule him in front of people.

[Asker]

of course, then when it happens again and again from different men over and over

[Blitzkrieger]

id feel so beautiful.

[USA2016]

Yeah girl, kill those mofos

[MrVicino]

And if I'm a nice and polite guy and I come to you to ask you to dance? Do you will consider grinding with me sometime?

[Regularshow20127]

First of all it’s illegal to bring weapons into a bar/club. So yea good luck stabbing someone when u can’t have a knife in the first place.

Second of all I’ve gotten twerk or grinded with hundreds of women. Sometimes I went up to them and put my hands on there waist if they don’t wanna dance they will let me know, if they do they dance. 90% dance. This is 2021 no one is coming up to you saying ma’am may I have this dance, it’s not ball room dancing lol.

Third as a man I have been standing in the club and a random girl has “thrown it back” on me. Dancing crazy all on me. She didn’t ask. Sometimes it has been less then attractive women that I don’t wanna dance with but I let them do it and have a good time it’s just dancing. According to you I’m being sexually assaulted and I should stab these women right? Sounds ridiculous. you need to grow up or not go to urban bar/clubs. I’m black and typically twerking clubs/bars are with black people. Sounds like you need to go to all white spots and that won’t happen. Either way u need to get a grip on life and stop being so uptight. Or stay in your room.

[Anonymous]

They probably thought it would be easier to do it instead of hearing no.

[Anonymous]

funy how nobody realized this is just another dumb attempt to troll and get a reaction from people. lol. -.- key parts of this post revealing their intentions to troll "I'm tired of their gender in general" " literally every guy does it". "male entitlement to female bodies " and " they need to be put in their place"

Thanks for playing. :P