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How would having sex with a woman be any more pleasurable than having sex with a sex doll?

Think it goes without saying that I've never fucked a girl. And I've never had sex with a sex doll either- the only thing I've ever fucked is my own hand. But I'm at the stage where I'm wondering- what am I actually missing out on? It's not like she'd actually be fucking me anyway; practically every woman's just going to lie there like a dead fish and expect me to fuck her, while she does nothing but lie back and enjoy the ride. Sex is meaningless- love, joy, passion, intimacy, they're all disneyfied lies. Any girl's going to be sexually entitled and demanding, expecting me to sacrifice my own sexual pleasure for hers every time. And there'll be no effort involved on her part; she won't care about how I feel, or about pleasuring me. There'll be no real emotional investment from her either- I'm not going to be anywhere near as special in the eyes of the first sexually attractive girl who'd be willing to have sex with me as she'd be in my eyes, unless I went after some barely-legal schoolgirl or college girl who'd never done it before.

As for the hormonal drive to have sex, it's all about reproduction, the urge to reproduce and father the next generation- and emotionally, I really, REALLY want to make babies- but they're the only ones who has any say in whether or not to make babies, and modern girls hate babies, so I'll never get to have one. And reproduction aside, why do we have sex? Because orgasms are pleasurable. But we don't need sex to have orgasms- in fact, intercourse is the least reliable method to experience orgasms. So then, what does makes having sex with a woman so much more pleasurable than having sex with a sex doll? I don't give a fuck about what other people think, or peer pressure. And I know I'm not entitled to shit, least of all being accepted by other people. So, as someone who's always been a social outcast, and doesn't give a fuck about that any more, how would fucking a woman be any more pleasurable than fucking a high quality sex doll?
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  • I'm sorry but i completely disagree with your views on having sex and it all being 'disneyfied lies'.
    Every woman i know, and myself included do not lay there like dead fish while we have sex. We all enjoy it just as much as the men we are with. In fact a few have a higher drive than the guys can cope with.
    Many times i don't reach an orgasm, but simply enjoy the act. To me his pleasure is just as important as my own, and i love the fact that i'm the cause of that pleasure or i can watch his expression change completely with what i choose to do.
    As for not being special in their eyes that's not true. Either you've been really hurt by women in the past, or you're around the wrong kind.
    Hahaha having children isn't only the women's choice. It's an equal choice. You're both the parents of the child. Also modern girls don't hate babies, it's simply that some of us feel that way, but you shouldn't judge us all like that. It's similar to saying that all men are rapists, just want sex, and then run off. Never wanting a relationship.
    Having sex is more pleasurable because of the emotional connection that you can have. Laughing together when something goes wrong, or accidentally kicking the other while trying a new position. Having the feel of someone warm beneath you, and embracing you is far more pleasurable than fucking a sex doll. A doll is lifeless, and gives nothing back.
    Find yourself a woman who is capable of loving you back.

    • I'm just being realistic. And the 'disneyfied lies' were those emotions in any capacity, whether it's related to sex or not. I've never met a single female who's told told me that I'm special- all of the ones I ever got close to, including all of my female family members, have told be themselves that I'm not special in their eyes- or that I'm 'special' insofar as being worthless, retarded, spastic, yadda yadda yadda. And all of the women I've known who've ever had babies, including my own mom, say that they'd have been happier if their kids had never been born, and that they hate children. As for emotional connections- any woman will find any man who wants an emotional connection to be desperate, pitiful, pathetic, and inherently undesirable. Women are only capable of "loving men back" in a platonic way; that's what the friendzone is. When it comes to sexual relations though, only men can love women back. Those men who love first NEVER get loved back- doing so is inherently unlovable.

    • I'm truly sorry to hear that those women closest to you have failed you and been so cruel. There's going to be a point in your life where you're going to either let your past and your family define you, and your future. Where they will continue to affect your life, even when you no longer surround yourself with them. Or you can accept things and let it all go. You gain nothing by holding onto these views and stereotypes about women, but you can gain everything by starting fresh and experiencing the best life and love has to offer. Again, don't judge us all by the negative experiences you have had with women.

    • There did come a point in your life where I had to choose- between either letting my past and my family define me and my future, or letting them and all of my feelings for them go, along with all other worldly attachments. It came when I was 14; and it was God himself who ordered me to choose. Eternal life and total spiritual enlightenment, or everyone and everything you care about. And I chose the latter, rejecting the former. And while I'd have been happy to die and go to heaven there and then, as I presumed I was being asked to, I didn't want those who I loved to experience grief or sorrow at my premature passing. But since then, every single person I ever loved has told me explicitly that they'd have been happier if I'd died then or had never born. I can't gain anything by starting afresh, unless you're talking about killing myself and hoping I get reincarnated- God doesn't give second chances. The best that life has to offer is pain and suffering. And love is naught but a curse.

  • Until you have sex with someone you care about I don't think you'll really ever know what the difference is. I'll try to describe it as best as I can.
    Here's the difference for me- Sex with a human is more warm, and passionate since you're kissing and caressing someone else. I don't lay there like a dead fish, I put in just the same amount of effort as a guy (cowgirl and such.) All the emotions you feel during sex isn't some disneyfied shit (and I don't know why you would think that considering you haven't even done it yet.)
    Like the emotions aren't a stereotypical fireworks shit, but you do feel a connection to the person your with which makes sex more pleasurable than with a doll or sex toy.

    Most of the issues you bring up about having sex with a real person vs a doll can be solved by finding the RIGHT girl to have sex with. If you go for the stereotypical hothoe of course you'll be more at risk for STD'S, and them doing dead fish, or having them be a bitch to you about feelings.

    • Sex can be a beautiful thing only if you do it with the right people. If you just have sex with everyone of course it's going to be just pleasure and not much different from having sex with a doll. Having emotions for the person makes it completely different.

    • I'm not talking about "all the emotions you feel during sex"- I'm talking about all of those emotions you feel, period. Love, joy, passion, intimacy- they're all lies, nothing more than falsified, faked methods of emotional manipulation which people use to make others do whatever they want them to, use to enslave others to their will. You feel a connection to the person you're with- how? I've never been allowed to feel a connection like that with anyone. Emotional attachment to anyone or anything, aka 'maya-moh' is one of the five cardinal sins. And after overcoming that vice, at the age of 13, I'd never be capable of feeling emotionally connected to anything or anyone ever again, because I know it's all a lie. When my parents died, I didn't even bat an eyelid- it was just another day for me. So then, who is the 'RIGHT girl' to have sex with? And more importantly, what girl on earth could I possibly be the 'right guy' to have sex with?

    • You probably already know this but you need counseling. The reason you feel that way is something happened in your past to cause it. And I'm sorry that whatever happened caused you to be this bitter and unhappy.

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  • Only read have to know that's bullshit sure there are some women who are lazy in the bedroom just like they are guys that are lazy in the bedroom. You should try it you might be surprised at how fun it is. Do you watch porn? Also we have pheromones that attract us to attach other. You don't have to fuck a woman you fuck a guy if that's what you fancy but you should be so close minded to sex. Just stop overthinking and do it

    • Yes, I do watch porn. I prefer to write it and draw it myself though. As well as experiencing it- and I know without a shadow of a doubt that the real thing would never be able to hold a candle to the lucid dream sex experiences I have (less often than I used to as a teen, but still, once a month as least). No girl's ever going to have the body, femininity, depth of personality, level of understanding or heights of enthusiasm which the literal 'girl of my dreams' has- so why settle for anything less? I'm not close-minded about sex at all- quite to the contrary. As for pheromones, I've never experienced anything like that. I have a very poor sense of smell, and always have. I still have impeccable hygiene, mind you- far better than the average person, for that very reason. And I'm definitely aroused exclusively by females. But I set high standards for myself. I set them for other people as well. So why settle for the real thing, real women, when they'll only leave me dissatisfied?

    • Wow dude just try it damn there is no such thing as perfect. You can met an amazing woman if you want to fuck a doll just wait til they create robots where u can have sex with them if u will be alive

    • They already have created such robots. They're set to be released onto the market early in the coming year, at a retail price of $50,000 and with a ten year guarantee. For comparison, having sex with prostitutes, for an hour a day over the course of a year, would work out at almost twice that cost. So why bother having sex with a woman, just for sex's sake (the only reason we're allowed to want sex as men- wanting an emotional connection makes you a "pathetic, pitiful little pussy" in women's eyes), when sex dolls, 'sex-bots', will offer 250x the value for money from the off, and are projected to offer more than 2000x better value in less than a decade? The big brothels are already planning to replace the women in their sexual work-forces with sex-bots, because they know that, at least when it comes to selling sex, women simply can't compete with those rates- less than $10 a day for unlimited sex, all day every day, with no holds barred. No contest...

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  • My boyfriend said to me the feeling have sex with a sex doll like having sex with a real woman.

    How would having sex with a woman be any more pleasurable than having sex with a sex doll?

Most Helpful Guys

  • Can't answer your question directly regarding high quality dolls but young, petite, nulliparous women are better than medium quality dolls. That's just a straight comparison of in bed performance. The pendulum might swing more in the dolls favour with the next generation of inserts and perhaps thigh heaters.

    RealDoll are making a strategic mistake going for artificially intelligent dolls which talk. Who the hell wants that? The Chinese are working on better TPE, built-in electric heaters and pelvic movement. This is the correct course.

    Don't imagine that doll ownership is without cost as you'll have storage, cleaning, maintenance and possibly hiding issues. It's really rather fun though and she never has a foul mood, a headache, or an STI.

    Old (> 35), obese and parous women are already obsolete. Avoid!

    P. S. Presumably the following need no introduction:

    https://dollforum.com/forum/index.php

    https://ourdollcommunity.com/forum/

    https://www.uklovedollforums.co.uk/forum/index.php

  • Women are generally sexually greedy, they don't put the effort in that they expect you to put the effort in.
    Yes at first girls want you to "like" them, they will be a little more freaky, but over time once they have you they will always stop doing the things you liked.
    I have been with over a dozen women and it's always the case. Plus you have to then deal with the shit tests and head games they play to keep their ego in check.

    A sex doll is not going to be better there is a certain need for the thing you're fucking to be alive and respond to what you are doing.

    I would suggest a hooker.
    They are in the business of pleasing YOU. They do the shit normal girls won't and they do it with enthusiasm. Also you don't have to deal with the extra drama and bullshit, and it will be cheaper than dating.

    • But with the level of sexual activity I want, the level I need to feel sexually sated (2 hours+ on a daily basis, cumming at least 5x, and an average of 8x a day), human prostitutes are unaffordable. Even with the cheapest street hookers, and the lowest rates around, that'd work out at $500 a day. The newest generation of cutting-edge sex doll, though, might cost $50000, but it also has a 10yr guarantee. That works out at $5000 per year- a mere $13.69 a day, or $1.71 per cumshot. For comparison, that's roughly equivalent to the cost of two (bog-standard, multi-pack buy) condoms over here. And the next generations of sex dolls after this are projected to cost less than a fifth as much, with the same guarantees; having sex with the sex doll would literally work out at less than half the cost of condom expenses alone. When it comes to which one would be cheaper, there's no contest. Even now, the cheapest prostitute's more than 3.5x as expensive as the best sex doll in the world. Why not?

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  • How does someone with 0 experience with women have the nerve to be so disdainful towards women, hell, life in general? That's sad man.

    • I have all the experience in the world with women. I just haven't had sexual intercourse with anyone yet. Is that so hard for you to get around- that a guy can have interactions and encounters with women without having automatically had sex with them? And if "that's sad man", for a guy to have done that- even including as a newborn baby, when he was sucking from his mom's titties without a care in the world, and as a 5yr old boy, when his aunt tried (and narrowly failed) to turn him into a eunuch by pinching his testicles off, leaving a permanent scar down there, just for being better at math and spelling than her own spoiled son- then you're the one who needs your head checked. 'Not having fucked a woman' is NOT the same thing as 'having had zero experience with women'. And I have every right to be just as disdainful towards life in general as I want to be, thank you very much.

  • Women have sex back.

    • Do they? I've never heard of them doing so from anything besides works of fiction- films, dramas, pornos, erotica, novels and the like. In the real world? Every bit of empirical evidence I've ever got, from those women (*females- including my sister, her girl friends 'from the hood', and my female cousins, the youngest of whom was only 7 at the time) who I've overheard speaking about this in audio range, indicates that females don't have sex back- they only have sex in order to get things that they want, to secure status and fiscal rewards in exchange for it, and to entrap and/or blackmail the guys who they have sex with into doing what they want. That's why my sister deliberately secretly stopped taking contraception- to entrap the gangsta and player she'd chosen as her "fave fuckbuddy" into settling down and marrying her, knowing that his terminally ill mum (and only living relative) would disown him if he didn't wed her soon as she got pregnant. Sex is nothing but a tool.

    • I make beautiful passionate love to my boyfriend multiple times a week. Lol. So unless I'm a man, they do.

    • Oh, also, I make more money than him and am the primary breadwinner. Just FYI.

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  • ummm... yaaaa. while some bitches are horrible, plenty of girls love sex and are GOOD and will attack u with sex. some are even light on the drama.
    the major difference between a doll and a chick is the drama. doll has none.

    dolls are not cheap though. they normally have full human skeletal structures inside them and require cleaning and all that stuff. so they require work just like a girlfriend ;). but many of them are pretty amazing. hell if u have too much money and want to risk it, u could probably find one with some robotics in it now adays. personally im not to keen on sticking my dick in a toaster though lol.

    but depends on how much money u have and how much u want to play around, u might just be better off with a hooker or setting up a sugar daddy thing, where u pay for a girls place aand or school or something and then just call her when u want something. requires some money, but gets u some good sex and cuts out all the drama.

  • because latex or silicon or whatever they make a doll out of is not close the feel of real skin, or a vagina, or a woman's mouth.

    there really isn't anything that compares to the real thing... yet

  • It's like playing a game against a person versus against a bot. Real people can do certain things, and have certain qualities, that companies cannot yet manufacture.

    • Yes. We call those things "human error", and we call those qualities "human flaws". If you design a bot to win a game, instead of to merely offer a challenge and designing it to be defeated, then there is no human on earth who'll be able to win when playing a game against it.

    • You'd think that, but take Civilization for example: once you go above emperor difficulty for the AI, they're actually given bonuses that human players cannot get, like starting with some technologies already discovered, and yet human players still beat them.

    • That's because they're designed to lose no matter what, and to be fallible. If the people can't win against the AI, then the game's deemed to be 'broken', and patches are installed to 'fix it' by making the AI stupid enough to be beaten.

  • Ahhh. Because they're human beings - not plastic dolls?

    • So what? Doesn't that make the plastic dolls better? No STDs, more easily cleaned, more reliable? Human beings are parasites by nature, fickle, changeable backstabbers who always have their own agendas and their own selfish ulterior motives. And the second that it's more worthwhile for her to do so, the instant that there's more profit to be made that way, any woman can simply use that sexual encounter, even if it was only a single encounter several years ago, as an opportunity for blackmail and extortion. I've never had a single net-positive relationship with another human being in my life- I've only ever been used, abused, mocked, dehumanized and extorted. And I'm not a sexual masochist- I don't find pain, discomfort and trauma sexually pleasurable. So that's a negative in my book.

  • women's parts are *warm*. They also *cooperate with you*.

  • Just the fact that she's a real person should make a great difference.

  • Are you a virgin?

    https://youtu.be/lQlIhraqL7o

  • because some of us aren't into that creepy sex doll shit

    • You're sure? Because with a mugshot like that, most people would say that you'd be more likely to be forced into resorting to using one than I am. But really, how are sex dolls creepy? How can an inanimate object be creepy- it makes about as much sense as being scared of regular dolls, action figures, plushy toys, sock puppets. Namely, none. The sex doll can't do anything to hurt you. The people, on the other hand, always can. So logically, the real people should be far creepier than the dolls could ever be...

    • it's like having sex with a dead body yeesh. Plus I wouldn't want my parents finding that shit in my closet lmao

  • Try it out man. Its the only way to know.

  • Try both

  • If that's how you feel then your probably better off with the doll, goodluck!

  • You have never had sex with a woman. So how the fuck can you claim that women lie there like a dead fish? What the hell is wrong with people?
    https://m.popkey.co/eecb1e/87q84.gif

    Please, keep fucking the doll. It's better for humanity.

    • Well, someone was triggered. I don't know that all women will lie there like dead fish- I know that not all of them will, because not everyone is the same. But in terms of the percentage of sexual encounters overall which are reportedly like this, the probability that your average heterosexual, sexually active female will simply 'lie there like a dead fish' is markedly higher than the probability of your average Irish national also being Catholic; almost as high as the likelihood of your average Pakistani being Muslim, and higher than the likelihood of that female being LGBTQ. I look at the big picture, because I know full well that individual, personal experiences don't prove shit. Why can't you?

    • *higher than the likelihood of that female NOT being LGBTQ- i. r. o 95%.

  • If you don't really like women, masturbation would definitely be better.

    I also had bad experiences with men and just masturbate. Connecting to people intimately is too difficult and draining. Which is what you're saying. It's a choice.

  • You're basically correct - what makes sex better than masturbation is not the physical difference, it's the shared desire.

    • But you're never going to get that from any woman anyway. Women don't reciprocate; to be desired by them, you can't desire them. Desire is in itself an undesirable man trait in the eyes of women- that's why they prefer the men who treat them like crap, and that's why you can always grab a woman's attention and desire by simply ignoring her, neglecting her and treating her like she's worthless. Shared desire isn't attainable for the vast majority of people. So most of the time, 99% likelihood, sex wouldn't be any better than masturbation.

  • may not feel any difference on your penis but it would just seem better with a real person

    • How? All that a real person's ever going to do is hurt you, manipulate you and use you for their own ends. And knowing that you're being used, knowing that a woman only wants you for your body, your money, your looks, your genes or your devotion to her (aka, how enslavable you are)- how does that feel better? I've been living like a hermit, in complete solitude besides my access to the internet and trips to the supermarket for supplies, for the past year and a half now. And I don't need anyone else any more- I'm self-sufficient, and I've weaned myself off my futile desires for social acceptance, interaction and inclusion. Real people have only ever gone out of their way to try and make me feel worse about myself, and to devalue me- why would sex be any different?

    • Man U sound like your in pain

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