What should happen to women who falsely accuse someone of rape?

[theFantasticJayy]

What should happen to women who falsely accuse someone of rape?

[jgokgotit]

If their lie did NOT result in a guilty conviction, then punish them with Slander/Libel. If the guy is sentenced to prison, the female who lied should serve time equal to what she made the man go through. She should be required to pay back all expenses, including court costs and money lost due to time away from work, as well as for pain and suffering to both the man and anyone else close to him who got hurt as a result. Also, she should be barred from any position of influence and power, both in her career and, God forbid, in the case she tries to run for office anywhere. Try to destroy an innocent life means you deserve to have yours destroyed. This is in the case of a female blatantly making up a false accusation. I do not think this should apply to a true victim of rape who just simply cannot get the rapist convicted.

[Anonymous]

What punishment, it truly appropriate, when she falsely accuses him? That accusation, is on his record, for the rest of his life, and biases anyone, seeing that record! It is not a simple thing, and easy to fix! He is fucked, and will face, bias, and judgment through the rest of his life. How do you make make that right, with just jail time?
I would hope that once she was convicted, of the false accusation, that his record would be completely expunged of any wrong-doing, but any media coverage would still remain, haunting him, the rest of his life!

[maiave]

If it’s proved to 100% be false (because I can’t imagine anything sadder than a woman/man who’s been raped and then juridically punished for speaking out) then they should go to jail. It’s such a selfish and horrible thing to do.

However - the people saying they should receive the same punishment the alleged rapist would get. Really? I get that revenge seems fair in that sense, that if the accuser was ready to give this innocent person this punishment they should get it- but sentences can’t be based on primal feelings. The severity of the two situations are so different - accusing someone of something and raping someone? One is just words, the other is forcing yourself onto someone screaming no, giving them scars for life. The logic doesn’t add up.

[starfyredragon]

I disagree. I would say a false rape accusation is FAR worse than rape as far as damage caused. One (rape) is just a few minutes of suffering. The other (jail time from false accusation of rape) is years of suffering. Given the choice, I would much rather be raped than falsely accused of rape.

[NCR_Ranger]

@starfyredragon you are the most inconsiderate and brainless waste of air on earth if you think that being raped amounts to mere minutes of suffering. If you dont know what you're talking about, its probably a good idea if you shut the fuck up😠

[starfyredragon]

@NCR_Ranger I know _exactly_ what I'm talking about. I have been victim to both. False rape accusation is MUCH worse.

[NCR_Ranger]

@starfyredragon dont you lie to me you fucking cunt. No one uses languange like "I would say" or "given the choice" if they have personal experince to speak to. Kill yourself

[starfyredragon]

And to follow up, yes, rape is mere minutes of suffering. You're probably complaining about the emotional damages of rape. After being subjected to it, I did my research. All of the 'emotional damages' of rape are of simply allowing yourself to slip into a victim mentality (and it can happen of any violation against you, INCLUDING being a false rape accusation victim). If you start identifying by a negative event, the emotional damages will follow you around for life. But that's only if you identify by it. Otherwise, it's just a bad thing that happened. I've been robbed before. I'm not a lifelong rob victim. I've been raped before. I'm not a lifelong rape victim. I've been falsely accused of rape before. I'm not a lifelong suspect. The event is a separate thing than how you internalize it, and if you don't let yourself accept it as part of you, then it doesn't become part of you. Why should _I_ have to internalize what _someone else_ did? Both false rape accusations and rape are capable of causing the same emotional scars. However, only one comes with months, years, or a lifetime of prison suffering. Even the THREAT of prison, hanging over your head for days, once your innocence is found, is still worse than the event of rape. Rape has taken on this stupid taboo mentality. Society labels it worse than murder as far as social connotation. I'd much rather be raped again than murdered, though. Rape has a hype to makes the rapists targets suffer, but if you refuse to accept the social label, if you refuse to let it change who you are, it doesn't matter, and all those emotional damages just fade like smoke.

[starfyredragon]

And as a reminder, I know this from experience. Hard earned experience. So, @NCR_Ranger, you can take YOUR inconsiderate and brainless waste of air on earth that's just continuing to echo chamber the hype that CAUSES those emotional damages, and shove it.

[NCR_Ranger]

@starfyredragon no, they dont. It doesn't matter how many therapy sessions you sit through, some wounds dont heal, trust never comes back, and fear lingers involuntarily, independant of your dumbass self help style horseshit spewing from your lying face.

[NCR_Ranger]

@starfyredragon if you were raped (not convinced in the slightest) then thats horrible and im glad you found some kind of mental gymnastics to cope with that. But dont you dare suggest that its only "minutes of suffering" for anyone but yourself you fucking idiot😠

[starfyredragon]

@NCR_Ranger With emotional damages, whether or not they heal is whether or not you ALLOW them to heal. And like I said, the EXACT SAME emotional damages can result from false rape accusation. It's the same pathways in the brain, it's the same victim mentality, it's the same mental issues that pop up in the psychologist's handbook: Victim mentality. Anyone who is suggestion that rape ISN'T only minutes of suffering, and that other kinds of suffering are lighter BECAUSE of the emotional damages, is a complete and total idiot who thinks their type of suffering is some unique kind of thing that special to some unique circumstance. No, it's not. Victim mentality can come from rape. Victim mentality can come from being mugged. Victim mentality can come from false rape allegation. Victim mentality can come from someone killing your pet. Victim mentality can come from assault. Victim mentality can come from abuse. Victim mentality can come from bullying. Victim mentality can come from an unfaithful spouse. Victim mentality is EXACTLY what the 'emotional damages' of rape are, and they can be caused by many other things as well. As such, trying to say say it's just mental gymnastics is actually ignoring the suffering that people go through. To put it bluntly, your ill-informed opinion is both toxic and damaging.

[starfyredragon]

You, and well-meaning but uninformed peoiple like you, who claim that "the damages of rape are long lasting" are the exact reason they ARE long lasting. You're perpetuating the victim mentality and prolonging recovery. You are not helping, you are part of the problem.

[starfyredragon]

To add to that, @NCR_Ranger you have already displayed yourself as probably being highly sexist. Rape is almost just as much as a problem for men as it is for women, but there's a huge problem with men just not _reporting_ it or event understanding what they were subjected to qualifies as rape. Mine was, unfortunately, very obvious. I suspect from your word choice and way you're projecting, that you'd believe a girl if they said they were raped. And that kind of sexism is both problematic and toxic.

[NCR_Ranger]

@starfyredragon you sound like a rapist trying to make yourself feel better. "Its just her victim mentality. I only hurt her for like a minute, she's the reason she still cries and is afraid to talk to people. Thats her problem." Seriously, not kidding. You are disgusting and i hope you get hit by a car.

[starfyredragon]

@NCR_Ranger So, lets look at your problems now, shall we? 1. You've called someone who's been raped a liar. 2. You've demonstrated veiled sexism. 3. You're perpetuating damaging and toxic stereotypes that cause rape victims to suffer. 4. You're insulting people out of the blue (to be fair, I've also insulted you, but only in response to your insults to me) 5. You're insulting the PROPER response to avoid victim mentality as "Mental Gymnastics", basically perpetuating suffering. 6. You're continuing the false idea that emotional damages can't be recovered from. (Yes, 'trust' is 'damaged'. But properly handled, you simply don't trust the perpetrator. I don't expect to be raped or falsely accused of rape at every turn, but I definitely don't trust the perpetrators ever again, and since they've shown themselves to be a problem, it's perfectly reasonable to never trust them again.)

[starfyredragon]

@NCR_Ranger Nice bit of character attack there. You've got some real good victim shaming going on there. Next are you going to invoke Godwin's law? Oh, how about you build yourself a nice straw man and beat it up. Oh, you could next blame a soldier who recovers from PTSD. I wonder to what depths you're willing to sink?

[starfyredragon]

@NCR_Ranger And I see you've blocked me as all your posts have disappeared. Just what I'd expect from a toxic personality who doesn't want to have to face the reality that they're part of the problem.

[Glue-Sniffer]

As an inexperienced and let's face it, naive young man, you probably only think about one side of the story. However, fining alleged rape victims is a two sided sword. If you fine women who can't prove they have been assaulted then many if not most women will think twice before reporting their assault. This will have a deterrent effect on victims. What if they can't prove it for sure? What if there is only circumstantial evidence? Will they be sued and fined on top of their horrible experience? Will they be shunned?
If a person is exonerated they can usually file a defamation lawsuit against the person who has falsely accused them of a crime.

[Qwertsy]

Lack of proof is different than being proven to have falsified a report. I don’t think the OP is talking about cases that lack proof... I think he is referring to more obvious “proven liar” cases. I don’t think there are many. I think it would have to be a “victim turns out to be in a different country than the offender at the time of the crime” type of cases. Again... there aren’t many cases like that. There’s usually either proof it happened, or lack thereof.

[InTimoreDei]

@Glue-Sniffer That's not what the person meant. Go read it again. They're talking about proven lies. My cousin was falsely accused of rape and sexual abuse and the girl that falsely accused barely got any punishment. She should've been thrown in jail.

[Glue-Sniffer]

Let's explain it again for your little small brains to comprehend. Sha we? If a person is raped when she was drugged or unconscious or if some time has passes before she reports it there will be no dna evidence. If she is kidnapped and raped and some time passes before she is free then there will be no dna evidence. If she hesitates because she has been crushed and is devastated from the event and needs to gather her strength begore going to the police and facing the scrunity over there, there will be no dna evidenve. There is a fine line between not being able to prove a crime and being accused of lying.

[Glue-Sniffer]

Shall*

[ecfresh]

I understand your point but let’s say the guy actually is innocent and the woman is lying. If that’s the case what should happen to her?

[Glue-Sniffer]

@ecfresh i think a defamation lawsuit and a fine or maybe a few hours of community service would be appropriate.

[Qwertsy]

Cases where the guy is actually proven innocent are so far a few between, I don’t think it’s something we have to worry too much about anyways... but for the cases there are some that actually exists, I’d agree with defamation lawsuit and community service. I don’t see the point in making the charges of a false rape accusation any different that a false claim of any other crime of equal penalties. Again... provided there is actually proof it was a false claim. You can’t charge someone for falsifying a report if the only reason it was let go in court is because there was too little evidence to support the claim. I’m afraid there would be too many victims being charged for falsifying a rape that actually happened.

[zoeadams3]

Prison time
1. A proven false accuser, like it or not, makes genuine rape victims less credible.
2. The false accuser just destroyed a life. Even if the person is cleared, it causes psychological damage. The person, even if cleared, still is known as someone accused.
I have an uncle in such a situation. He wound up burying himself in his work, refusing to have a social life, and does not trust any woman.

[Texaskid1]

That sucks. Was this a while ago?

[zoeadams3]

It was 10 years ago.. The accusation was made when in fact he was in different state on a construction site. It nearly destroyed him professionally. It’s left him with a lot of trust issues.

[Kayayy]

Jail. Intentionally wanting to ruin someone's life?
Get the hell out if here that shit

[XRabbitHeartX]

Jail time without a doubt.

[joyjoy123]

Get the same sentence

[Boromir]

Jail time, minimal the time the person they accused falsely would have served. In addition, she should be placed on the sex offenders register.

[up_64]

Have them marked with a hot iron that says " false rape accuser.

[purplepoppy]

They should be publicly anally raped

[differentpixel]

@purplepoppy but how will you know if it's genuinely a false accusation, by the woman? You'll rely on the court verdict? If the man accused of rape is found innocent, then the woman is automatically raped as punishment? You do know that false accusations are actually very few, compared to the very large numbers of genuine rape cases and unreported rapes - against women? Yeah, men do get raped, and there are false accusations, but both those numbers are absolutely dwarfed by the real rape cases. Despite what all the 'men' on GaG would have you believe. Is rape OK?

[purplepoppy]

Where there is clear proof that she simply lied about being raped she should be punished.

[normalice]

that was my first thought as well, but the sort of girl who falsely accuses someone of rape is more likely to be hurt more by la douleur exquise than the pain of getting their butt stretched. So, instead, they should be put in a pillory next to two sentinel "ugly chicks" who volunteer to suck the cock of any guy who passes by. Once they do so, the spit it onto the face of the false accuser. That way she gets no attention from men, but has to deal with all the messy shame from women who would normally be considered her lessers.

[PondyPand]

Same as what would have happened to the dude.

[teamvic]

Be given the sentence the dude would've gotten if he went to jail

[carameltwin]

Should be charged with Slander or Libel (depending on which is more accurate) under Defamation Law at a very minimum, as that is what they have done.

[thomual]

That is the current law. But I think it's not severe enough

[TacocaT6969]

Jail.

[Katie1964]

I think the same as they were trying to put on the guy.

[WintersDaughter]

They should go to jail. They knowingly tried to ruin a man's life. That false accusations can still ruin their life. At their job, if someone says they don't feel safe around them cuz of the false rape accusation then you're going to get fired. The women should go to jail for a very long time.

[OlderAndWiser]

They should be charged with filing a false police report and they should be tried for that crime. If convicted, they should receive a penalty commensurate with the penalty that would have been paid by the person falsely accused.

[JoseJr]

I mean technically its called false police report but I'd say like 5 years tops. Even if the case or accusation were false there's always gonna be a lingering cloud over that person.

[butterlettuce]

If it is truly a false accusation then jail time no question

[Curmudgeon]

They ought to suffer it. Karma.

[Seket]

Arrange an actual rape for her so she will know what situation she should report on.

[amyadmsmsms]

They should be sent to jail also they should pay some money to the man or men they falsely accused of rape.

[DeeDeeDeVour]

They should be punished harshly.

[PinkMichae]

Make it a felony and give Jail time, publicly shamed and sued.

[Sensmind]

I think some countries have a criminal mischief charge or something like perverting the course of justice. Most punishment are there to be a deterrent to people in the future doing it. While causing a lot of trouble they also hurt the cause of true rape victims.
There may also be a whole other discussion about what is sexual assault but probably leave that for another day I always welcome more clarity when it comes to the law.

[Lilyanony]

They should have to be punished once deemed medical level distress. When people are distressed they can get very confused.